Al-Hussan Schools, Dammam, Jubail review: humiliation of teachers 58

I 100% agree.

The business managers of these schools are pakistani relatives of the owner. they are not qualified but they are the actual directors and principals of these schools.
... and one very important thing, these pakistani guys only disturb the pakistani teachers.

I agree with Imran ullah and Hamid Suleman.
These are the schools who hire Pakistani teachers and force them to leave early because these schools calculate the cost and senior teachers are always costly so they fire them and bring new teachers every year. you will find very rare or no teachers who are serving from a good time period.
Syed Kashif,

100% true. you might find many victims in Karachi and all Pakistan

100% agree that the business managers of al-hussan international school in dammam, khobar and jubail are pakistani relatives of the owner. they are not qualified but they are the actual directors and principals of these schools.
... and one very important thing, these pakistani guys only disturb the pakistani teachers and all pakistani drivers and labours. these schools are making profit every year by removing old staff and taking new staff again. # alhussan and their managers

hi

i would like to discuss in detail with u about al hussan schools. if any one of you is living in karachi.

my email : adnanr12@hotmail.com

Why are we blaming them, they are doing what suits them. Our problem is that we have to quit our jobs from Pakistan, because we need money. My fellows we have to be realistic. We are fired because we are not the milk giving cows for them. Strange and very true that "business Manager" calling school, a business, but they are and they are powerful. As far my experience is concerned ### them and they behave with you. Let them ###ed and your ###ed. Anyways It's not a nice experience to work in this group. Incompetent, non professional, idiots are ### there.
No moral or ethical values. Teacher is just a F*** idiot for them.

Be careful before taking decision.

It is quite surprising to see the comments and language used by the so called teachers whcih reflects on their qualification and experience. It seems that they have not been in any International School before, they joined the most reputed School which gave them the opportunity, but they were incompetent in their subjects thats why they were sent back. About their comments on Business Managers, We the parents of the school know who is in command.Basically the hiring and firing is done by the Academic people not the non Academic person.How in the world they are criticizing some one who had not been in the position of firing these people.Shame on them.Also the Academic people make decisions on the information provided by the parents. Schools are not operated on the basis what these teachers are addressing. We the Parents know that school always strive to get the best qualified teachers but unfortunately the Teachers they got were not qualified as the ones who are addressing and blaming someone who has nothing to do with it.STRANGE! PARENTS .

These are the people who like to eat Haram. They have taken salaries for few months, have not performed and have been fired and now taking their frustration out on this Social Netwrok. How appauling? Great Language? Now wonder they have been thrown and kicked. Some people just accept what ever is offered before doing any research about the country and place they have been offered the job to. They think that teaching in KSA is just like teaching in PAKISTAN or INDIA, infact it is very difficult to survive in KSA for any teacher. The next question is that if they think that what has happened with them is the reality then why didnt the same happened with the Egyptians or South Africans teachers. Our Pakistani teachers fight, shout at each other, wrestle, spread filth and dirt, stink not only have bad body odor but also bad breath, on top of that teach tuition, breaking the contract and then they expect that good things should happen to them.
In addition, yes the Business Managers are their relatives, but dont forget that school is a money making profitable business, no businessman can hire someone who is incompetent. Therefore, there must be some competence that the owner can see and you cannot. One of my friends said it absolutely wrong, many teachers are with them for more then 12 years. More that 35 teachers are with them for more than 7 years. Admin people working for more than 12 years as well. So dont be a spoil sport, dont be a loser, be a sport, be positive, and look for opportunities. Saying bad thinks about a particular place or person is Haram, refrain from it. The other side of the story is always shocking. May Allah give you peace and forgive you.
Ameen

what is going on in their class rooms, just follow the following link and u will come to know the reality of standard of education.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-582992300508663204#

The person who introducd himself as "Parents of the Community" seems to be one of the bussiness managers in these worst schoolsof KSA

I just ask a simple question. Why they recruit teachers every year? This is the most important point. Some of the teachers, are no doubt, kicked off...while the others who really want to save their respect from very bad students and managers say good bye. I know 5 teachers who are working there from 5-10 years but these are the guys if they leave this school, nobody will accept them as a teacher. So they are super fit for such sort of school.

Hi Dears... long time off the social network. What a funny comments made by parents and one of the juke box. As far as the language is concerned, I am sorry for all those who used and to whom is used, but that's the way one may respond, though I do not agree with that but let us take it as human expression. Regarding the point made by Mr. Parent, I would like to ask you one very simple question, You said teachers are fired because they are incompetent. " Who was the ###ing ###, who hired them". When you hire "the business managers hire them, and they ask only one question, This is the salary do you agree?". Dear, What do think about Haram, getting fees in bundles and paying teachers in peanuts, that's the true halal, Good luck with that halal. You said we Pakistani teachers stink and bad breath, I challenge you won't find a single Pakistani who has these stinking qualities. I would like to inform you that these are qualities not achieved by Pakistanis.
Very Much true when you called them Academic People. who told you they are academic. The Academic Coordinator of One the school can't even spell, Spells "With as Withe" what's the criteria for hiring an academic coordinator? The great ### lickers are getting the positions. I totally agree with the statements those who are working for 5-12 years they are the most incompetent teachers. They are there because they won't be paid what they are paid in this business making school. I think Mr. Bas. ### licking is halal for you. Lick you are paid for this. I know many admin staff people they were hired as teachers now they are on posts because they couldn't delivered what they were hired for, Teaching, but their ### licking qualities took them to the high position. I know very good teachers who left because they were fine teachers and they didn't know the art of licking as Mr. Bass trable. So they left. We are fired because we are not the suckers, we are fired because we are not Yes Sir. The contract is breached by both parties. Teacher is thought to be a donkey who can do any thing. I swear I witnessed cases when Student abused teacher and when the case was put to management, they said they are growing boys, you must have handled it better. Next time a teacher just said " shut up" and he was given warning letter and termination. What a joke . Good business. Keep up Sir, you are really trying to protect what can't be protected. Regarding the salaries, once we stepped in school and faced so much humiliation, I think we deserve that money. We are paid for this. What about you "You earn harm you are paid for ### licking or doing you job. You decide Halal or Haram.. Rest on the day of judgment.
Regarding the South African teacher, sorry to say they ### your ###, that why management keeps themselves away, by the way would you please tell me how many South African teacher do you have in All 3 International School. Please don't lie. I worked there and know all them. I can even name them if you lied. Teaching in Pakistan is easy or difficult, I would not discuss that. I would like to inform you that teaching is only possible when student take you as teacher. When students know that if they complaint "teacher in Al Hussan would be in trouble" what you expect from teacher. If you have been so good why don't you teach? I am sure you are not part of teaching community. You are ### licker.

imran ullah azhar
first of all i would like to inform my friends this bulleitin is not made by me, alhussan school is providing quality education in saudia arabia. i was teaching biology there, i just came back from saudia because i was not feeling well. they bare good peoples like mr raid . mr kaleem mr ismail and mr uzair they supported me at every moment . i get severe typhoid and i came back. al hussan school is a good school, imran ullah azhar

I am an American who worked with Al-Hussan for almost 1 year. I had to high-tail it to Bahrain and take a flight out back home. They hold on to your passport and actually decline to give it. Complaints you have go out the window and the compound they put you in is crap. I am an American typing from the USA. IT IS A MISTAKE TO WORK THERE. The best thing to do is give your passport and then apply for a new one. Within two weeks you have a passport and you can take off if you like. The school will never know what happened.

I had my passport back though when I left. The smart thing to do is get your housing allowance and live in Bahrain. It's a 45 min. drive over the bridge. That way, you keep your passport with you at all times, so you can hightail it out of there if you need to do so. Bahrain, other than legal prostitution, is civilized (movie theatres, uncovered women, music, normal people). You can live there easily without problems.

hi i am aman ullah khan i was also teaching english there in the same frauad schools, i want to only say stupid peoples and stupid management. and cheater schools.

Aoa

All of you
I am joining the insituite very soon and will update u soon about their attitude etc

Any further news about this school. I may be joining.

Dear All,

I am a UK expat, college lecturer and father of three.

The anger and frustration felt in the above comments are shared also by parents whose children attend or have attended the 'Al Himar', or 'Al Hussan School in Jubail.

Recently, I have been surveying schools in the Jubail area for my sons who are about to begin school.
I asked many parents and non parents to give me feedback about schools, to share their stories and experiences.

Al Hussan was the worst. Complaints center around poor school management, abusive teacher/admin relations, terrible handling of parents, low standard classroom teachers and lack of support for parents of the 7 children who died in the road tragedy in Jubail. (March 2013).

After speaking to so many people, I came away with the strong impression that Al Hussan' cares much more about grabbing money than it does about education.

Frankly, this is sad but I am glad I know this before deciding to send my son to that school.

One example of abuse is the school issuing a photocopied class book to a pupil whose father hadn't met the books fees deadline. The child in question felt so bad.

Another example of abuse is the school refused to give children a ride home on the bus because the fees payable by the child's father's company hadn't yet reached their bank account.

Others relate how children suffer in class due to low paid, poor teachers, parents suffering at the hands of harsh and abusive administrators, teachers suffering abuse in the class at the hands of admin, summary job firings, all manner of abuse and ill feeling.

Many parents I know had withdrawn their children from that school. Many others want to but feel there are so few alternatives.

The 'Al Mariya International School' in Jubail is a much better alternative. They offer 'O' levels program and a project based learning curriculum. Their website www.mariyaschool.com is friendly and student centered. They even have long condolences for parents of the Al Hussan road accident tragedy. The Al Hussan website has NO condolences which shows their real lack of empathy.

The 'Al Hussan School' admin should pay serious attention to the poor reputation is has developed over the years and the negative impact this is having on parents and the community as a whole.

Teachers, parents and their children are the school's most valuable assets NOT buildings and chairs. These human assets need care, careful and kindly attention and proper longer term financial investment.

If I can take anything positive from this it is that now I know how NOT to run a school and 'Al Hussan' has shown us al the mistakes so as they may not be repeated.

Yours,
Abu Hamza

this schools are just like ###...

this school sux...

imran ullah azhar 111, you claim the teachers that are asslickers are the ones that make it to the top, I agree with you about some of them, and I'm talking as a student in the Jubail school, but I completely disagree about others. Do you really think Mr. Arnous kisses the admins ### to keep his job? Do you? There are countless teachers who have been in the school for a long time and you, or somebody else, said that the management hires and fires to save money, you are sadly mistaken. The school fires because some teachers show the complete and utmost incompetence when teaching. The only decent math teachers the school ever had left for a) better offers or b) problems with OTHER teachers and not with the admins. There has not been a proper Physics teacher in ages and also most of the teachers are not qualified to teach, as I'm sure some of you are not qualified to teach. I used to know an English teacher who claimed he learned English from watching television. In what way does that mean you are competent to teach the language? When teachers come in saying "I have a masters degree in chemistry" that doesn't mean you are qualified to teach chemistry. Yet, the school hires these people and gives them a chance. But when confronted and complained against by the same people they are teaching what happens? You go back to your little computers, with your little keyboards typing away that it wasn't your fault and that the school is a fraudulent system based on a web of lies, ###-kissing and connections with the higher-ups or with the owners. You go back to your little keyboards and show how truly petty and childish you are, this is coming from somebody half or a quarter your age. You should take that into consideration.

There are things called teaching degrees which most of the teachers don't have, however, if they're any good they're kept. If they're not, they're fired. The school might have had some injustices with a few people before but it is not the ### hellhole you claim it is and you have no right to claim it is.

Another thing that shows how truly hypocritical and petty you all are. You tell students that swearing is a huge injustice and they need to stop and make huge fusses about it with the admins to get student in detention or even suspension, have athletic external tournaments cancelled and shatter the hopes of some students possibly having that rare fit into a great university based on an athletic scholarship, and then think yourself a good person then come back in here and do the exact same thing.

I am honestly sickened by what you have turned out to truly be and I am absolutely glad most of you have not taught me.

Also, you say that Pakistanis do not have body odour or bad breath, I will agree with the part that says "Pakistanis" I am not a racist and I will not condemn an entire population. However, most of the teachers that teach in our school do indeed have bad hygiene habits, countless times has the staff room smelt like something had died in there. You have teachers that come in to school with a truly pungent odour that stings. It literally stings. I will not be the typical racist Arab and claim it's because of where they come from.

Also when you make fun of a person for not being able to spell, make sure your statements aren't flooded with grammatical errors. Reading your statements made my eyes bleed.

And finally, a little bit of advice. The next time you leave a place that you didn't like, don't go on telling everybody that it was the worst experience you've had in your life, because a) you might need to look in the mirror some time and think 'what did I do wrong?' and b) other people have different opinions than your own.

Good day,
Asraf.

Reading the comments posted by 'teachers' of Al Hussan Schools is painful - the colourful language, which is laced with grammatical errors, is evidence enough that those writing either aren't teachers or they are in dire need of teacher training. I agree with Asraf on all points except for the part of his unfortunate experience with body odour. Dude, I can assure you, properly educated Pakistanis don't suffer from issues that reek! I hope you do meet some of us who will change your opinion (lol). Now back to the Al-Hussan bashing issue. I think it is absolutely unfair to write about one's experience and then extend it so as to make it sound like the rule, rather than the exception. Please, all those who have had a enjoyable time at the school should write on this forum so in the future, people will think twice before using their limited English language skills to blacklist any educational institute. AND I AM IN NO WAY ASSOCIATED WITH THE SCHOOL, so kindly do not accuse me of being an accomplice!

M.R

Hi..i want to highlight another issue here. In 1999, i did my 9th grade from this school. A year later i switched back to another ISG school. Presently, i am a ph.d candidate n lecturer in a private university of pakistan. I was seeking attestation of my degrees from higher education comission of pakistan last year. I had to present grades n mark sheets of my 9, 10, 11 and 12 as per HEC requirement. There i was told that in 1999 al hussan was niether accridated nor recognized by saudi government or any other body therefore i was asked to repeate 9th grade examinations in pakistan. My whole attestation process is ceased due to this school. I cant move to any other country without my degrees being attested. I was also told by some high authorities that i hold the right to sue the school for giving admission to students without being accredidated or recognized. I am looking for some link to reach to mr rashid directly about this if he could at least provide me with some written explaination that may help me proceed with my career. If there is any one who can help me contact them please let me know. There has been no response on emails. My email address is as_k6@yahoo.com

is there any teacher who is going to join the school in september 2013?
i want some informatin.please do contanct me on my e mail address
bluemoons36@hotmail.com

What a shame! Pakistani teachers were blaming to Administration who itself a Pakistani. It's not a question of a Pakistani or any other national. If teacher is not good either male or female, them Students need to complain their parents first & then register their complaints to School Administration. They might change or give training to teachers for smooth operation. I disagree with many Pakistani's teachers they said O Level English & As level English is very tough no one can teach like me or higher capable teachers from Pakistan. I have one question as not a native English speaker can we challenge a native speaker. If we have proud on our mother tongue then Native English speakers too. I agreed with Asraf "I used to know an English teacher who claimed he learned English from watching television" ...Pity on them & Deep Ponder to Alhussan Management about hiring of teachers.

Now, [protected] session has begun. Lack of teachers in upper grade in Physics & Biology subjects. What the hell is that? They are asking for money but no arrangement for teachers. ###!

Just student. For you you are not the student you are one of the Pakistani manager of alhussan you are also Pakistani smell your own odour it should be bad think. When you hire teachers at that time you people are blind why not u select the right person so this means that really u people are unprofessional. In Pakistan u select right person and upon reaching saudia it become incompetent . Just student think about itself manager sahib. And again I clear this complaint box is made by a ### not by me. I love alhussan school.it is a quality school.I am imran ullah not I man ullah khan he was English teacher but very good teacher he was

I'm a level 7 student of Maria Int'l School and I would like to clear my doubts.

My parents are planning to transfer me to the school complained about next school year, and I had told them about the reviews that mostly are negative towards Al Hussan. And they have reminded me a couple of times not to listen or get it into me when my friend said of the same about her friend's lack of great education standards' at this school.

At first I had wanted to transfer for the sake of my future because Mariya doesn't offer a complete K-12 system. However, these comments really puts a burden on my shoulders as to which side I'll go with. I'm very frustrated since it's just a week away before I'll take the entrance exams and I might regret it later.

To respective teachers and students who had been/are currently under the Al Hussan administration, I seek your feedback as soon as possible.

Best regards,

Fatima

My children have attended Al Hussan International School Jubail since 2001. I researched local schools and I found Al Hussan to be the best. It Is accredited internationally and registered with the Saudi ministry.

I have found the standard of teaching to be of a good standard. Comparable to thst found in Western Europe and the US.

Mariya International School, for a student point of view may be okay. But, never will I recommend that for a teacher who's looking for job. The worst ambiance you can ever expect. Lots of humiliation, politics, sudden lay off, unplanned curriculum, immense workload for the pay, etc. Students there enjoy lot of freedom and teachers are like prisoners...! I will never suggest Mariya School/MIS as an alternative for any job seekers, around! Trust me... U r gonna undergo literal mental trauma post joining there!

Mariya international school is a big scam for parents and students as well.
they hire undergraduate teachers for kg's, level 3, 4 and even for higher levels as well.
being a teacher there I witnessed that and many other things, and by the way as a parents when u ay miscellaneous every semester u should not pay for trips and water cups and bottles, soaps and tissues but in fact u pay for trips more than needed, and they sent a long letter asking parents to provide water for kids as school stopped providing it !
ALHUSSAN at least hire genuine teachers and gets them legally and make sure of there certificates and careful for such a thing would harm and anger the parents.
MIS is the best worst option around here

I was at Al Hussan School and they are not a good school. Students left this school in greater percentage and teachers have lots of complaints to their manager staff and the worst of all is the replacement of new teachers every year. Students have NO PROPER DISCIPLINE and THEY DO NOT RESPECT TEACHERS. There are no good rules about this school. They wanted to make themselves clean and wanted only money without proper education. Their reputation is already very bad in society. Teachers became victims of this worst institution specially new teachers.

I think we need here someone who could share unbiased opinion about this school. As an experienced teacher, I know that most of the private institutions being commercialized give undue advantage to the students and they also try to get the best possible return from the teachers against what they pay them.On the other hand, teaching community is a blend of real and so called teachers.Consequently, management of schools at times justifies firing those who are not up to the mark. But, in some cases teachers are victimized by the money minded management who wants to get rid of some real good teachers to save money.This is the plight of today's world of education, especially private.The solution to the problem lies in doing your part honestly and sincerely.

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everyone is talking like a loser, if you people are real heroes then shutup and mind your own business.

More Complaints Than MIS
Pakistani School Of Jubail Is Third Class

Crappy school nothing to do they can all go to hell

Horrible school need to get their stuff together cause they are boring and just care about the money

students feel imprisoned in this school literally its prison