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I am writing to make a complaint against Countrywide Home Loans, and the Bank of America, its owner. Countrywide is using a number of ploys to delay and avoid helping people in regard to the implementing the recently-announced federal program to assist its customers that need help.
Immediately on the announcement of this plan, I went to the Countrywide website which instructed me to collect and fax a list of information, which I did. That was in mid-March. I called a few days later to confirm that they had received my information. They confirmed its receipt, but when I asked about this new program, the Countrywide agent told me the only program they have to assist homeowners is for people with loans through Freddie Mac and Fanny Mae, which my loan is not. I told them that they were mistaken, there are two programs that were simultaneously announced, the Home Affordable Refinance Program, which is the program for Freddy Mac and Fanny Mae borrowers, and the Home Affordable Modification Program, which is for other borrowers. They told me that I was wrong. There is only one program, and they had no program to help me. When I tried to convince them that they were incorrect and giving their customers the wrong information, they hung up on me.
I have called them at least once a week since then, and have made no progress whatsoever—not only in regard to getting a modification, but even in getting someone who will rationally talk to me about doing so. All they do is demand immediate payment, which, of course, is impossible. If I had the money to made the payments, I would certainly do so and wouldn’t be calling them asking for assistance.
Last week when I called, after having been told the same story that there is no program available to help me, I requested to speak to a supervisor. After explaining this whole situation to her, I asked her to validate their receipt of my information. She said, yes, it was received on March 19th but no action has been taken on it. I asked why not. She had no answer, but just said no action had been taken. “It hasn’t been submitted yet.” I asked her to please submit it—I thought I was submitting it when I followed the instructions to collect and fax the information. She said she would request that it be submitted.
Today (April 21), I called, and got a different story. Yes, they have got my information, but there was no indication of its having been submitted. No, they don’t have a program available to help me. Regarding the federal program announced last month, they told me that the government hasn’t released the information to them to implement any such program. They told me to wait until mid-May when they might be able to start the program. Finally, they told me to call HUD. That was it. They have done nothing else to aid me in gaining the assistance that I desperately need.
I went to the United States Treasury website, and found the “Summary of Guidelines” document, which is dated March 4, 2009. In specific regard to the Home Affordable Modification Program, this guideline document states, “With the information now available, servicers can begin immediately to modify eligible mortgages under the modification program so that at-risk borrowers can better afford their payments.” (This text is boldfaced in the document.)
Thus, according to the U.S. Department of the Treasury, mortgage loan servicers could immediately be implementing modification program as of March 4, 2009. However, according to Countrywide, they have not received the guidelines to implement any such program, are not offering any program currently, and don’t know when they might be able to implement such a program. They told me to check back in mid-May. The approach that Countrywide-Bank of America, in regard to me and my case, has been to lie to me, mislead me, and postpone undertaking positive action until I am so far behind that nothing can save me.
In my most recent call (week of May 11-15), the response of Countrywide-Bank of America now is to tell the customer to wait. The telephone representative (you have to speak to a different one each time you call) said that Countrywide was determining who qualified for the program (although they are still steadfastly refusing to admit the existence of the non-Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac “Home Affordable Modification Program”), and that they will mail out notifications to those who qualify. Their advice to me was, “Wait to see if you get a notification letter.” To the question, “How long might that take? How long will I have to wait?” There is no answer. “Just wait to see if you get a letter.” This is very like their advice to homeowners when they embark on the Countrywide internal modification program: “Don’t make any payments while this process is underway.” What they don’t tell you is that the process can take as much as three or four months—time enough without making payments (as you are advised) to become significantly behind in mortgage payments and past the 3-month threshold for qualification for foreclosure. Thus, the obvious plan by Countrywide-Bank of America is to cause the homeowner to fall so far behind in their payments as to make the situation insolvable—government plan or no government plan.
If the President, the Secretary of the Treasury, Senators and Representatives believe that this program they have originated is helping anyone out there who is a customer of Countrywide-Bank of America, they are sadly mistaken. These, hopefully, well-intentioned public officials are living in a dream world if they think that by placing the administration of this program in the hands of the very lenders who created the problem in the first place something significant is going to be done to help endangered homeowners, they are willingly fooling themselves. They have put the fox in charge of the chickens, and the chickens are disappearing, one by one. I wonder why?
The Bank of America, during the first tranche of the infamous $700 billion "bailout plan, " got $20 billion, which they apparently invested in their buyout of Merrill Lynch and bonuses for Merrill executives. Now, when not only have they received significant federal government money, supposedly to assist them in freeing up the credit markets, and now have available an additional federal program to assist needy homeowners, they are refusing to do so. I have talked to a few other people that I know how are also having financial problems and mortgages with Countrywide, and they are also getting nothing but refusals and postponements. It is impossible to find someone to rationally discuss one's financial problems with at Countrywide as they refuse to do so. Their response is nothing but to insist on immediately bringing accounts up to date or paying off the loan. There is a serious abrogation of responsibility involved here by a company that has taken federal money but refuses to assist taxpayers who are their customers. I have read that the CEO of Bank of America has now admitted that he is sorry that his firm took the money--probably most of all because, subsequently, he has come to realize that responsibility would be expected of them in return, and that they would be expected to do something for their customers. The Bank of America-Countrywide should be prosecuted for taking money under false pretenses.
I am seeking information from you regarding Countrywide. I would like to contact other Countrywide customers who have been having similar problems to get them to join with me in contacting our members of Congress, the President, and Secretary of the Treasury, to inform them of Countrywide-Bank of America's abuses of the use of federal funds, the public trust, and their customers.

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none, US
Oct 14, 2010 12:24 am EDT
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Folsom, US
Mar 11, 2011 5:12 pm EST
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I've been trying to get a modification since April last year. Supposedly they are now doing an in house review for a modification, however from what I've been reading i don't hold out much hope. I experieced the same thing, lost paperwork, being told it is being review for months on end. I finally saw some action when I wrote letter to the White House, my State representatives in Washington as well as California with a cc to Brian Moynihan. By the way here is his e-mail address: 'brian.t.moynihan@bankofamerica.com'. I have pages of notes of when I talked with whom and how often etc. Also here is a number to call, these folks now the laws and actually do 3 way calls with you to your lender 888-995-HOPE. the way I look at it, at least I now have witnesses to what is happening at B of A and it is not just my word against them.

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rev.mdl
Wilmington, US
Mar 21, 2011 9:31 pm EDT

I too have been getting the same exact run around and have become extremely frustrated - not sure who we can talk to regarding this or what legal actions can be taken. Does any one know at this junction I am ready to take BOA to court for fraud and I believe if enough people do so we can win...anyone with information on how we can do this?

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Sherry G.
lucas, US
Jun 03, 2011 7:27 pm EDT

I have been trying for over a year & was approved for a 3 month trial period march of 2010 that went on till nov 2010 & dec. was told i did not qualify because they did not receive a copy of utility bill, I did send it in & called many times to confirm all paper work needed was received & was told yes they had all paper work needed. Now june 2011 offer a forbearance w/3 month trial period & at end they want past due amount, I cant come up with that much.

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Lisa Marie Schombert
Aurora, US
Aug 10, 2011 2:46 pm EDT

Making Home Affordable Loan has many requirements. If your current loan is a fannie mae loan and you are not behind on payments this is the loan for you. If your current loan is Freddie Mac you must be current on payments- you may or may not need a full Appraisal and you are restrcited on yoour loan amount. If you are behind in payments an in house modification may be the loan for you however it can take many months to be completed at this time due to the latge volume of people who need help because they are behind and really want to keep there home. Does it take longer to process a loan these days? you bet there are now many regulations to be met. Frustrating yes but not only for the client also for the employees as we would love to push these loans out faster but times have changed..

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smv1385
1385 Whitehurst Ct., US
Dec 22, 2012 12:47 am EST
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I have a similiar experience, runaround all the way around, now i am in foreclosure.I also know for a fact the loan is fraudulent .These people are crooks and are in the business of taking our homes.There has to be help some where.I have contacted our State assemblyman to no avail.I need help.Contact me at [protected] Sherry V.

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annanymous
ca, US
May 25, 2013 3:43 am EDT
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cynthia5993
US
Mar 01, 2016 7:49 am EST

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JPKY
Taylorsville, US
Aug 04, 2016 10:34 pm EDT
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We are still living in the nightmare of the Countrywide Home Loan and Bank of America in 2016! Even though we were told that the issue was such a huge thing in 2009 and out THEN small second mortgage had been closed, some crooks from Louisville, KY got ahold of the DATA BREECH that involved Countrywide and we are still paying the crooks Lloyd and McDaniel in Louisville, KY $300 a month, AND ALL OF OUR MONTHLY $300 PAYMENTS FOR SEVERAL YEARS NOW, HAVE NOT EVEN WENT TOWARDS OUR SECOND MORTGAGE BALANCE DUE, only the principal. In addition, Lloyd & McDaniel in Louisville also added another $20, 000 to our less than $50, 000 second mortgage! Lloyd &McDaniel also put a lean on our home. I'm 53 and have been through 14 surgeries since March 2011, so we can't get ahead with me being disabled! Will someone please help us? It has been so hard and devastating for us, since 2009. I pray that God will have the right person read my post. jamiep@twc.com

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Lori Murphy
US
Nov 24, 2019 3:59 pm EST

It's now November, 2019 and we are still in the same hamster wheel we've been living in since April of 2009. They've threatened me several times while I was at work, they've gotten my children on the phone and told them their parents are losers and are going to loose the house they live in. I was give a loan modification so I thought with countrywide never knew it wasn't final as I paid for almost 2 years that amount that was agreed to. They told me I was a lying it was only good for 3 months. I asked them to produce the paperwork and they said they didn't need to and that I now owed the difference of the amount I paid vs what the mortgage amount actually was for the last 2 years and if I didn't then they were going to take my house. Once I see paperwork stating that then I would until then, this was the agreement I had. I continued to pay that amount until they refused to take any more payment from me in Sept of 2012. Since then they refuse to take any money from me and now we are headed to the court steps. I've been scammed so far by the mortgage company we worked with when we refinanced back in 2005, had illegal robocalls harassing my children, embarrassing calls at work telling anyone that answered my phone that I was a loser, been ripped off by an attorney that stole my money that we paid to have them handle this situation, been in court where judge was annoyed this is taking so ling and now case transferred to supreme court. Guess I'm losing my house on 12/4/2019. What a great way to celebrate the holiday season by stealing my house when the only thing we did wrong was to follow their directions and not pay for the 3 months so we could get in a loan modification program.

Does anyone have any suggestions? I am out of ideas and time!

Lori Murphy, Long Island, NY

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