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Movemeant Sales Enterprises Door-to-door Sales Scam

By the posts, I see that a number of consumers have been "scammed by "Movemeant Sales Enterprises" (MSE)!

Like most, I placed a magazine order, but NEVER received ANY magazines! Specifically, I orderd three different magazines (at approximately $65 per order), for three different Youth Groups. Ironically, I'd placed an order with a different agency a year earlier and there were NO problems so, I assumed that MSE was legit. I got the "sob" story about how the seller was trying to do the right thing, go to school, etc. I'll admit that the seller had an impressive presentation (but then I guess that's part of their scam!). I've always been one who's trieds to help our youth succeed. That's why I opted to place the orders for the youth groups.

Sadly, I was grossly mistaken and will no longer purchase from these door-to-door sales people!

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Movemeant Sales Enterprises Failed to recieve magazines

Upon discovering that I had been scammed, I quickly learned that 36 of my friends and neighbors were approached by similar persons. Like me, half of them made a purchase, and failed to recieve the product.

Movemeant Sales Enterprises, and there are more like them. Many of my victimized peers were decieved via other fake, literary-marketeering companies. With the variety of company names that I have been previewed to, any name could be used, and is. Only now, am I acknowledging the mispelling of 'movement, ' which is printed on top of, what truly seems like, a legitimate reciept with contact information...in case a customer needs a refund.

Other than the mispelling of the company's name, the receipt is sound. Equipt with a yellow and an additional pink copy for the customer. The salesperson NEVER fails to mention that the customer needs to wait three months to recieve their purchased literary copy and/or thier first issue of whatever magazine/s selected. This too, is printed on the receipt.

The salesperson may vary in character, but whatever form is chosen, they always claim to be out-of-state. The reasoning behind the three month wait is to allow the salesperson, missionaries, or aspiring teenager to complete their sales tour of your city. Also, processing is factored into the time period. The real reason for awaiting this three month period is now made clear.

Be wiery of person/s who go door-to-door and ask residence to view a long list of magazines, and then select a few. They have every kind of magazine you can think of, with the exception of erotic literature. A customer can get a one to three year subscription at a good value. In addition to their "meager" commission, the sales contribute to a point system, which will help the individual/s live a better life in some way, if they can obtain the most points in the company. Each salesman has a sob story, which is thrown at the unsuspecting cunsumer.

Although some salesmen can appear well-dressed and well-spoken, I was scammed by two recovering crackheads who now put all their energy into making peace with God and spreading his word and "gift of life and living" from door to door. I could tell that the hard drugs had taken a toll on the individual's physical and mental well-being, but they truly seemed to be recovering addicts who had found Jesus. One thing was for certain, they were recovering addicts. Through working in Human Services, I can identify past or present stimulant-drug-abuse, but the tell-tale signs would have been apparent to almost anyone. As what happens in many sales schenarios, I felt obligated to help these 'missionaries, ' as they claimed to be.

Through comparing stories of scandal among friends and neighbors, I can very confidently say everything that I have stated above is true. This has been going on for years! If you are reading this, please consult with fellow friends and neighbors. Find out if they have ever been approached by a door-to-door literature salesman. For me, people with similar stories appeared out of the woodwork, only when it was too late.

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steger mom
Steger, US
Aug 02, 2009 11:06 am EDT

I have also paid 119.00 in cash to two magazines and have never received either one do not use this it is a scam

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elvia gonzalez
Dec 01, 2008 3:18 pm EST

yea i whant 2 now if u people have sent me the magazin that i order

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Movemeant Sales Enterprises door to door fraud

BEWARE this scam of door to door salespeople with sad stories, asking you to give donations to help inner city school kids by purchasing books and magazines.

Ironically, on the back of my receipt, it says they are solicitors working for money, and are prohibited from saying they are helping underpriveliged persons...interesting.

The guy was very pushy, asked for water and came in my house, looked around at everything and then laid on a guilt trip that "the least i could do to help" was to order something from him.

He also showed me a log of people who felt compelled to share comments about his honesty, including a few of my neighbors. Then, after i handed him my check, he coached me on what to write, adding to his little list. wow, was i gullible!

oh yeah, i never received the item i ordered and called only to find out they don't even sell that item - he was working from a fake merchandise catalog.

I recommend you NEVER ever buy things from strangers knocking at your door - it is too risky.

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Elizabeth
Tucson, US
Aug 11, 2016 12:55 am EDT

What the hell?! I bought into the whole sob story of a door-to-door salesman who needed to sell enough magazines to complete some program that kept him out of jail and put him on the road to getting his son back. It's a bunch of ###. My husband and I really didn't have the money to spend on that crap but we did because we felt for him. I should have known when he pulled out a brand new phone to call his supervisor. He got us for $65 and we never got the Disney and Me magazine we ordered for our son. I'm so pissed and now no one who sells stuff to us at our door will get any money.

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keith
Sep 10, 2008 6:55 pm EDT

These people are door to door with pity story about "trying to better their life..blah blah blah"
they got me 3 times besause yes, i felt sorry for them. Everytime it is black youth, and quite frankly, they may not even know that the magazines never come...
don't even open the door!

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Carol Lashley
Aug 18, 2008 10:08 am EDT

I paid $91 to a door to door salesman who said the magazine sales would help inner city youth. It is 2 months later, no magazines, the company did not respond to my email or voice mail and they never answer their phone. It is always voice mail. Unfortunately now I won't buy from door to door salespeople some of whom I believe are legitimate as I have ordered and received magazines that way before. This company appears to be a big scam.

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Gray
Stillwater, US
Mar 26, 2009 6:58 pm EDT

Order $112.00 (3) worth of magazines from a Shon Phillips 9/24/08. Receipt says delivery within 120 days. Well, it's March 26, 2009 and no magazines. Same sob story as other complaints---got out of jail, found God, turning life around, and trying to get his son out of foster care.

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Ladysporecap
Oklahoma City, US
Apr 08, 2013 4:00 pm EDT

The bottom line is that there are good apples and bad apples...Some companies and their agents live up to high standards where other's not so much. I have been in the door to door sales business for 20 years now. I have sold magazines, and for me my experience was terrific, and I hire for one of the companies listed throughout this thread...Pro-Tek Chemical...I'm here to tell you that after some of the incidents involving the magazine business it's refreshing to work for a legitimate company that IS listed with BBB or Better Business Bureau with an A rating...look up other soap crews or mag crews...Are they listed? That's what you really need to do to protect yourself as a consumer and as an agent. If the company is on the up and up they will stay in nice hotels, have nice vehicles, their people will Get Paid every week or two depending on the companies payroll, they will be listed with the BBB and have a good rating, they will get permits to work all areas, they will have a professional secured website and Facebook page. If the company you are buying from or a company you are wanting to work for does not meet this criteria you're probably better off doing and working elsewhere. This is the truth and these are the facts. Pro-Tek has this and more. Need a job? Call Me :)

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Mr. Daniel Ellis
Norman, US
Nov 08, 2011 10:19 pm EST

I started selling Pro Tek in October of 2001. My story, I grew up in Inglewood CA and was deep into gangs and drugs and violence. I answered an add in my local paper for a job to travel state to state which gave me the opportunity to get out of LA. I had no sales experience and even less experience talking with people and being a closer... I got trained by a kid from NY and got real real good at sales thanks to Mr. john nelson Mr. joel lambert and all the different peeps I met... Now 11 years later I dont sell cleaner but i MANAGE 265 people that do with one of the largest companies in the world AT&T. So for all the bad stuff people say bout d2d they are not all wrong but for US Custom Chem... John Nelson Joel Lambert and Denver Price thanks for teaching me EVERYTHING i know and getting me into a career that supports me and my family of 3 kids and a wife

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MS. CHANGED MY OWN LIFE
Monroe, US
Jul 06, 2011 5:09 pm EDT

I STARTED WORKING FOR A MAG CREW BACK IN AUG.2007...IT WAS OK TIL ALL KINDS OF DRAMA STARTED BETWEEEN MY MANAGER AND ONE OF THE AGENTS WHICH WAS MY BOSS GAY BOYFRIEND.SO I LEFTED AND WENT TO ANOTHER CREW...MORE DRAMA AND MORE DRAMA.I HAVE TRAVELED ALL OVER THE USA AND SEEN ALL KINDS OF STUFF.BUT WORKING WITH BLACK PPL IS THE WORST THING I COULD HAVE DONE AND I AM BLACK MYSELF.THEY ARE RUDE, CON ARTISTS, THEIVES, LIARS..AMONG OTHER THINGS.I MADE A LIL MONEY BUT NEVER SEEN IT CAUSE THEY CLAIM (I OWED) THEM MONEY AND I WAS STILL A NEW PERSON. SO I WAS LIKE ### IT ...YOU DOT GET A JOB PROMOTION UNLESS YOU SLEEP WITH MANANGEMENT AND IF YOU NOT MAKING NO MONEY AS LONG AS YOU SLEEP WITH HALF OF THE GUYS ON CREW YOU MIGHT BE ABLE TO KEEP YOUR JOB.THEY DROP PPL OFF AT THE GREYHOUND BUS STATION ...NO TICKET NO MONEY NOTHING! I HAVE BEEN ABANDONED AT LEAST 5 TIMES...I JUST LEARN TO ADJUST TO WHERE EVER I AM AT...BUT THESE COMPANIES DONT WANNA HELP ANYONE THEY TRAT YOU LIKE ### AND SOE TIMES THEY DONT GIVE YOU MONEY TO EAT WITH ...90% OF THE PPL THAT WORK ON CREW HAVENT HAD A GOOD MEAL SINCE THEY BEEN ON CREW.I HAVE HIGH BLOOD PRESSURE AND I AM A DIABETIC...AND THEY DONT GIVE A ### BOUT ANY OF THAT...I HAVE BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL SEVERAL TIMES...CREW MANAGERS TO NOT WORK FOR: DESONYA GIPSON, BO-JACK, TIM BURGESS, KELLAM BELO, MR.HAYNES(JAMAICAN), WIL JACKSON, TINA GLADNEY ...JUST TO NAME A FEW

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ZuleT
Lowell, US
Jun 14, 2011 8:18 pm EDT
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Some sales persons represent legitimate businesses. It is good to ask for literature and perhaps not make a purchase until the next day. I always order with a credit card. The charge can be disputed if the goods fail to arrive or are of poor quality. Many of these persons are just trying to make a living selling merchandise. Do not purchase to help someone, purchase because you need the product. If you want to help people, make a donation through a recognized charity. Why would I buy magazines I do not want to help someone go to camp?

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Recho
San Antonio, US
Apr 22, 2011 10:04 pm EDT

Yes, in San Antonio, TX these young sales crews come by every so often (I got burned the 1st time, when I bought a subscription and never received the magazine). Now what I do is ask them for the web site where I can place a direct order or a mail in order sheet and if they have a sales ID # that I can tag to the order to make sure they get their commission. They always say that they must pickup checks directly, but I explain my previous problems with unfilled orders (..saying "you can never be too careful.."). They usually leave grumbling..

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XRAYDOC
US
Jun 27, 2010 11:57 pm EDT
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They send a young black teen girl to the western suburbs of Chicago to try and coerce money from hard working families. She uses a "teen mom from the south side of Chicago, trying to earn money to support herself and her baby" sob story. She also says anything that she sells, she gets 50% of the sale price. So I agree to buy a book to "donate" to a single mother or abandoned child who cannot afford to buy them. She tells me that only "certain" books are donatable and when I look at the list of course only the high priced books are donatable. I could buy 3-4 books for the price of the 1 book they are selling. So I finally find a Hannah Montana book for $25(cheapest I could find) she writes up the ticket and says, "that will be $40 dollars" You DO have to pay for processing & handling, she says. I should have said No Thank you right at that point but I am too nice of a guy! (SUCKER is the more appropriate word, and that is what they count on) So I am DONATING a book that is 4 times what it should cost and then they add on $15 for processing! I know, I am a [censored] for buying this. Well no more, my friends! I put a NO SOLICITORS sign in my front door today and will never buy or donate $ to ANYONE who rings my bell ever again. Please learn from my ignorance, naivete, etc...

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