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to return vehicle
i have been calling wells fargo dealer services bec. i need to return the vehicle since our bankruptcy is granted they have always said hold...hold never gave me an answer where should i return the vehicle here in arizona bec. we dont want to keep it at all to lessen our debts please anyone help we just want to return the vehicle back to them...
Read full review of Wells Fargo and 5 commentsunwarranted repossession
After being laid off, I filed for bankruptcy, but opted to keep my vehicle as I was up on the payments. This morning I awakened to my husband telling me that either my Toyota truck had been stolen or repossessed. After being transferred to several different numbers to only find out that the people I needed to speak with would not be in the office until 8am (PST), I called my local police department since I am in the EST time zone. It was confirmed that it had indeed been repossessed. My problem is not that I could not make the payments, but that I do not receive monthly statements regarding my account. After calling during normal business hours, I was told once your account is under the bankruptcy umbrella, you no longer receive statements. Okay, strike one. If this is the case, then why during 2011 did I receive approximately 4 out of the year? Of course, the rep did not have an answer for this mishap. With them having all of my information from home address, mailing address, home phone and even email, no one attempted to contact me. Strike two. Now I have to wait until Monday in order to find out the total cost of my vehicle plus recovery costs because I cannot go back on a monthly payment plan. This amount I will need to have within 20 days. Strike three. Now that my bankruptcy has been discharged, they were very clear in letting me know that if I do not pay the costs, I will be held liable. This is completely unacceptable and should not be the case. This situation would not exist if it were not for their complete disregard for and lack of communication. I am not sure who I need to contact, but it will not end here.
PS...Toyota Fan, you might want to re-read what you respond to. I never said having to pay was unacceptable. I am more than willing to pay what I owe including recovery costs. Re-reading before responding helps prevent the statement..."an empty wagon makes the most noise."
Toyota Fan, kind of harsh...wow. Not sure who you are responding to, but what you are failing to realize is that people find themselves in unfortunate situations. Perfect example, I am sure you have the answer to all of the homeless post-war vets. What just kill them all? You conclude with a reference to God in a very devilish manner...if you are a true God-fearing person and a Christian, then you would have a more non-judgmental attitude..."Judge not, and ye shall not be judged: condemn not, and ye shall not be condemned: forgive, and ye shall be forgiven" (Luke 6:37)...just food for thought before you include "God" in your verbiage.
method of bi-weekly payment
I would like to send my mortgage payment to Wells Fargo bi-weekly. And was told by Wells Fargo that it was unacceptable and that I would have to let Wells Fargo process the payment. This is the issue, why can't I send my payment bi-weekly and Wells Fargo process. If we both are doing the same identical process (bi-weekly payment), why can't my payment be...
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We have a loan on a lot in the Hill Country of Texas with Wells Fargo. Initially, the lot was made with Wachovia but it was purchased by Wells after the real estate bubble burst and WF acquired Wachovia. We have been on time with every payment, repayment was never a problem. The loan was a five year interest-only loan and it matured Jan. 1 2012. I began trying to refinance it in September of 2011. Prior to all this, back in the summer, Wells Fargo sent an appraiser to the lot for an appraisal without my knowledge or approval. Fortunately, the gate code precluded the appraiser entry. When he called me, I asked who had hired him and he said, your bank. Since I had not granted him permission, I told him to tell whoever hired him to call me and tell me why they were doing this appraisal. I never heard from them or anyone. I called WF to begin the modification process. What I assumed we were doing was modifying the loan for a longer term, and I asked if we could pay some towards principal rather than interest only. Because the lot has no home on it, it was very difficult finding lenders who would loan on it. The process with WF was extremely cumbersome and I was told of all the paperwork and financials I had to produce. "You get just 4 phone calls, " I was told. I ended up overnight-ing a box to the processor in Arizona full of financial information.
I want you to know the amount we owed was about $280, 000. We have over $1.5 million equity in our primary home.
I next applied for a mortgage to use the equity in our home to pay off the lot loan and not have to deal with Wells Fargo, but on the advice of mortgage brokers, I kept up the application process with them "just in case". We were told our loan went through and on Jan 26, the bank requested a payoff from Wells Fargo, which they never received. Note: since we were running late with the financing approval, I sent in a payment for more than $3000. WF did not accept that against the lot loan but rather plunked it into our WF savings account.
Then the new loan got stalled. WF knew full well we were in the process of obtaining financing and had in fact been asked for a payoff. At the same time, they began sending me material asking if I was sure I wanted to leave them. Then they sent us notice of right to cure default -- foreclosure. I pulled away from the undecided bank and obtained a loan with another in the course of two weeks. One week before we were to close, I emailed the attorney -- oh yes, we were told our loan was now in foreclosure, not in the system, and all communication had to go through an attorney -- and asked for the payoff balance. I was told it would include attorney's fees. Today is the day before we are set to close on our new loan and pay off Wells Fargo 100%. They have not given us a payoff balance and in fact, told us I did not give them enough time to obtain one. We cannot close tomorrow without this information.
This is stunning. First of all, we were good, solid paying customers they blew off completely. I want their shareholders to know about this. They could have refinanced us and had a good loan on their books, just as the one maturing was a good loan. Secondly, I feel like they want us to go into foreclosure. Fortunately, my children are attorneys and I am a journalist. I intend to take this story as far as I can and would love input/feedback. Any cases action lawsuits out there? I don't know if Wells Fargo got taxpayer money in the bail out, but this is surreal. The regional banks I am dealing with have been very helpful and tell me this is why you never, ever want to deal with a large bank. Too big to fail? I think they should all be chopped down.
i had an account with Wachovia before WF bought them out the branch i made my paycheck deposit in Bessemer, AL was robed 1 hour after i left they had no record of my deposit and requested i send them the original receipt so not thinking because the teller had been killed and i thought they needed this for info to help with the crime against her and god knows she didn't deserve it i sent it in only to call them 1 month later to find out they were bought out and that they had nothing on that matter and my account was over drawn 500 bucks when it was in the pos 200 when i deposited the paycheck and didn't spend any of that before or after the issue as i was waiting for it to get cleared up...also i had nothing pending and no checks out...after 6 months of calling them and getting hung up on i gave up only to find they filed it against my credit and with e check so now i can't get a checking account and am going to have to file with an attorney to get this cleared up and i dont have the money to do that as i am a single father who receives no child support or any assistance from the gov...i think when a bank buys another one out they should be made to fix any errors that the other bank made as if i bought a business from someone i would be made to by law..where did the banks become above the law?
difficulty obtaining endorsement of insurance check
Sorry to hear about all the other folks having problems, but at least I am reassured it is not me who is confused. I too have an insurance check that I need to have Wells Fargo endorse so I can pay it to the contractor who replaced my roof after a hails storm. In January contacted the Loss Document department and was given a very confusing list of SEVEN steps that needed to take place before I could obtain the endorsement. I send them this, they send me that, they schedule and inspection... I complied with the first step, and they never responded. I am trying to get in touch with them again, but can't even find a phone number on the Internet. This has already been time consuming and frustrating, and I am not even to step two in the exceedingly complicated process. If anyone knows how to actually get something done with this group, any advice would be welcomed.
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Not good seeing this! We Live in Colorado and our roof needs to be replaced. What a run around we have already had with Wells Fargo. Wells Fargo wants us to send I. The check. Not a chance. Common sense is not prevailing here. A roof replacement takes less than a week to do. Wells Fargo wants to make 1/3 payments on a one week roofing job! Wells Fargo also needs to learn how to treat those of us who pay our mortgages on time. If Wells Fargo doesn't work with us we will simply refinance and take our business elsewhere. I will also get in touch with the State Attorney to get the check relased so we can pay the contractor.
My experience was the same. The suggestion to "follow the process" is ridiculous and stupid. Wells Fargo cannot even tell you the correct steps in the process from one day to the next. I went through exactly the same issue - got the finish work completed in September of 2011 and Wells Fargo took until February to complete their end - the inspections, sending the same paperwork 3 times, thinking paperwork was needed when we had already advanced three levels past the point where it was needed, etc. Wells Fargo constantly displays nothing other than uncaring incompetence.
title release
I had paid off my car and was told it would have the title be mailed to me in 10 business days...to my surprise...no title...so i've called, and called, and called all told it was released days after i'd paid off my car...now at 33 days after being paid off all they can send me is a notorized lien release piece of paper coming from california in regular...
Read full review of Wells Fargo and 8 commentsunbelievable!!! run away
I cannot begin to express my frustrations with this company, I was out of work sick for a week UNPAID, and these jerks wont even work with me, and I know there is a 10 day grace period so why do they feel the need to call a day after the payment is due? I do western union payments so sometimes they dont post til the next day, and I usually have to do them on Fridays after 5, and they call me Friday at 3, after Ive already told them that I will be paying it, as I always do, Im seriously thinking of getting rid of the car all together, this has been the worst experience as far as cars go, I usually just buy private party and I am VERY sure I will be doing that again VERY soon. Im sick of this big company taking advantage of the people that pay their salary, and cant even help someone out in a hardship, just totally unbelievable... I would suggest taking a bus before getting a loan with these Jack-###'s, unless of course you like harrassment, and the worst customer service I have ever had, and the rudest reps, I cant believe how they can get away with this! My suggestion is STAY AWAY
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There really is no such thing as a "grace period" for car loans, you accrue extra interest every day you go past due. By the time you pay off your car you could have spent an extra $1, 000 (I kid you not) even if you never go so far past due that you pay a late fee.
try a due date change if you havent already.
disrepected and humiliated
I have been having problems with wellsfargo for the last few months. Moved from another state and set up my new wachovia-wellsfargo account because at the time wachovia had not turned over to wellsfargo. I gave any and all necessary info to open a new account in the new area. The manager at this wellsfargo treated me as though I were a criminal and that made me very upset and disturbed that their are people being hired to work in such a professional field and they don't even have people skills. You can find better people off the street to do a better job than them. I was being watched by a banking assistance at the atm outside of the building where I was withdrawing money from the outside atm. She watched me because I had on a hoodie which I am over 45 years old an a woman blackwoman mind you and I have 2 accounts. In fact checking an savings and a way to save account. I asked her why was she watching me when she knew who I was since I bank their. She denied the fact that she was watching me as though I was a criminal. So I took a picture of her and she became angry and she told me that I was never to come back to this bank ever. Which is not right and the authorities came out and she lied to them telling them she had a problem with me. I never even had a problem with her only with abbey the banker that was assisting me from the first time I came to the wellsfargo on springs road. The other bankers in the bank were fine to me. The woman that was outside was one of abbeys friends or co workers. I guess she sent her out to harasse me. When I did not like the fact of what she was doing she became irate to me this is not professionalism at all. Wellsfargo gets a zero for courtesy, respect and genuine professionalism. Some one needs to check into the way they treat people. Financially, business, mortgage wise the aclu needs to find out about this and the naacp as well.
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And mortgages too? I'd get ACORN involved as well.
remodification
To whom it may concern,
I am at an absolute loss with your company. My is house is be sold on April 2nd. We begun the paperwork to modify our mortgage in August of this year. The person assigned to our account was useless. She did not process our paperwork in a timely manner thus continuing a saga of paperwork for us. I had called her manager several times and never got a call back from her she would just have the rep call me. After I lost it and called the 1st managers manager she called me back and said she could see that paperwork was not worked in a timely manner. So she moved me to a new rep (whom has been great but we are out of time and have no answer on our home). Yesterday I spoke to the attorneys that are handling this for Wells Fargo and was told we could asked for the reinstatement and may have been able to pay that and this could have all ended months. However, it's to late for that now according to them. I am going to list below the problems that I have seen within your organization I doubt it will do much but I am going to any way.
1. First assigned remobilization rep was useless never processed paperwork in a timely manner, never left me voicemails when she supposedly called, and called our old phone number instead of the new one. Her name was Cassandra (Shawn) Ransaw
2. Her manager Robin Ausloos - I called her several times and she would have Cassandra call me - I was told by Cassandra her manager had reviewed her records with my account and she was not seeing any problems
3. So I called Robin's Manager - Brandon Sterle who has never returned my call however it did get Robin to call me. And then I was assigned a new rep.
4. If the first person I was assigned to would have processed us in the fall we could have found out if we could modify or not and if not we could have asked for a short sale.
5. I had not been told until yesterday that there was a reinstatement that could have been paid and this could all be avoided.
6. I would sincerely like to have Wells Fargo look at this and take part in their fault in all of this.
7. The Attorneys office that you use will not return call and when you call in you get bounced around to different voicemails and put on hold to never get a return call.
8. In my opinion if the first rep would have done her job and got our paperwork through we could have found out if we were approved or not and if not we could have tried to do a short sale however her not doing her job has taken that away from us.
We have intended to keep the house we even had a new roof put on in November.
we also were trying to get a mortgage modification done, due to my husbands unemployment and recent medical issues that left him unable to work. They took so long processing the paperwork, and they kept asking for more things. We just got another letter asking for yet more explanations and paystubs from my job, and yet another bankstatement. We have been doing this since January, thankfully my husbands disability went through and we do not have to lose our home. we told them we no longer needed their services, well I left a message we never get a person when we call there.They obviously do not intend to help people keep their homes and they should be ashamed.We would be already going into 4 months of not being able to pay the mortgage and we have never missed apayment in 20 years of home ownership! Needless to say we are looking at refinancing soon and will not be using Wells Fargo !
You need to make a complaint to the Consumer Financial Protection Agency. I did and got instant results. I went to the OCC, which is in line with the Federal Treasury. I still have a complaint against them and it has to be noted or else they will get away with it.
In your case, I read about a guy who was trying to modify, they took so long they foreclosed on them and he sued them and won.
WOW! toyotafan123, I sure would not want to meet your Maker with such an arrogant heart. Golden Rule sweetie, everybody falls on hard times and just a need a little help to get back up. Sure hope no one in your family ever suffers misfortune but then again with your attitude, I doubt you will feel any compassion towards them until it happens to you. Karma is a b-word but she is a just b-word. Word to the wise.
Feel sad for you Toyotafan123. That is all I can say.
Toyotafan123, you must work for these ###. I could see if it was a few people that are going through this with this company, but honey, there are thousands and thousands of people going through this. You don't know peoples circumstances, you don't know what this company has put people through. Why don't you try and walk in someone else's shoes for just a moment, maybe you would have some compassion. If your entire life has been good fortune, you are blessed. But people have had many unforeseen circumstances happen in their lives, the economy going the way it has been, health crises, family crises, I could go on and on. Never judge someone else until you know the full story. So sick of people judging others. If you are that perfect, please, fill us all in on your secret to the perfect life.
terrible customer services hours and availability
I have had a loan with Wells Fargo for an auto lease for the past 4 years, my loan is up on April 5th 2012. I have had several buy out offers from this dept. in the past and as resent as thurs. March 22nd. talked to my end of year consultant and Told her I was going to trade my car in this Sat. March 24th 2012. she said that the dealership could purchase it, or send it to auction or I could purchase it as well, I made an appointment with my car salesman as planned and when I got there I discovered the best option for me was to purchase the car I have, BUT... when the dealership tried to call to get my pay off amount I was re-routed several times to recordings that stated that your normal business hrs. are Mon. to Fri. 7am to 5pm.PST EVEN THOUGH the paperwork I have states Sat. hrs 8am to 4pm PST. I even tried to set up an account on-line to get the info. we needed and even went as far as to go to a local branch with no avail ! SO... NOT ONLY DID I WASTE MY ENTIRE DAY, I HAVE TO GO BACK ON MONDAY TO DEAL WITH THIS... THIS IS RIDICULOUS THAT YOUR BRANCHES ARE OPENED ON SAT. FOR BANKING BUT YOUR AUTO FINANCE DEPT. ISN'T? EVERYONE BUYS CARS ON THE WEEKEND. THIS MAKES NO SENCE AT ALL ! AND IF YOU DON'T OFFER HOURS FOR BUYING CARS ON WEEKENDS DON'T PUT SAT. HOURS ON YOUR PAPERWORK ! REALLY UNPROFESSIONAL !
I have had to deal with Wells Fargo and their customer service is the worst! They are rude and disrespectful.. Wells Fargo should give their teach these animals running the show how to speak to people and treat them with respect! Horrible!
auto loan
I received a letter and phone call from Wells Fargo Dealer services threatening that they would repo my vehicle. I know that I am current on all payments and have proof to verify that. When I spoke with the CSR this morning she stated that if I did not come up with $1678.68 that they would pick up the vehichle. I told her that I had proof of payments. She then told me that she was unable to pull that information up in her system and that the sum above still needed to be paid. I immediatley paid $300.00 (must of what I had in my account) out of fear that they were would indeed pick up the vehichle. What should I do now?
atm processing dept.
I went to the ATM to deposit a personal check made payable to me. I also had a 2nd check from the same individual made payable to a travel agent. I inadvertently deposited the check made payable to the travel agent into the ATM. Immediately I entered the bank to notify them of my mistake. I was advised they could not remove the check from the ATM however, when the ATM Processing Department views the check and see that it does not bear my name, the check would be returned. Everything sounds reasonable to this point. Actually what transpired is ridiculous. Wells Fargo accepted the check and attempted to debit the funds from the other person's bank. Because the funds were not available, they then realized it should have been returned to me before they attempted to process it. The funds were debited and credited from my account and from the party who owns the check. I contacted Wells Fargo and was credited the $24 return check fee however the customer service representative told me in the future this could occur again as "They don't have time to check all the checks". I asked for a supervisor (Reuben Nuev) who was worst. When I told him this makes me uncomfortable & I will be looking for a different bank. He said, "I don't know what you expect to get from a different bank". Wrong answer. Unfortunately anyone can deposit a check & Wells Fargo will attempt to cash the check even if your name or account number is not on the check and the check was not signed.
This was Monday went to bank deposited $40 in bank wells Fargo. I did took $20 owe my friend last night then in morning I went to atm checking need $20 out of cash my feeling so shocked wf took $20 makes me angry!
lack of assistance
I have had a car loan through Wells Fargo Dealer Services for 4 years and have never missed a payment. I have had to work 2 jobs for almost 2 years to make ends meet and recently the 2nd job I had ended. I called for the first time ever to request a deferment and they wouldn't give it to me. Stating that without me having found another job they don't know I can pay them next month. The issue is with a deferment I can get back on the right track and guarantee next months payment as without it I can guarantee further issues. They didn't care, refused to help me. Now this is the final conclusion of trying to get someone to help me and running the gambit of automated systems and "Please Hold" and transfers for 2 days in a row. If I can find anyway possible to get away from this company I would. I will never finance anything through them again and I would highly recommend anyone staying far away from them as possible.
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I called about a property Wells Fargo has the lien on today. The owners have both passed away. The company couldn't give me ANY information about the property or what they planned to do with it even though they posted a sign on the door that they deemed it to be abandoned. I want to buy it. I have money in hand and can relieve them from the burden of the value of this property and all I got is IDIOTS giving me double talk and directing me to a web site that doesn't exist.
Wells Fargo is the WORST RUN COMPANY in the ENTIRE nation. They don't know if they are washing or hanging out. I will let this property go since I can get NO INFO on it and I hope they are satisfied when whoever gets it leaves the in a lurch. So SCREW YOURSELF WELLS FARGO, YOU ASKED FOR EXACTLY WHAT YOU GET.
THEY HAVE THE ABSOLUTE WORST CUSTOMER SERVICE SUPPORT IN THE WORLD.
They're worried about something called "masking delinquency." They can get in a lot of trouble if they're caught giving deferments to people who have no reliable way to make their monthly payments. If you do get a job though, any job, they can probably immediately give you a deferment which should keep you current until you get your first paycheck.
I had the same thing happen to me but, under different circumstances. I went through a hardship, made the same request and was given the same answer. The only thing that was different was (FOR ONCE) the Representative gave me a wonderful alternative: Since I had never changed my payment date, I could set it so that It would fall on a date to where I could still have my grace period and not be reported as delinquent. She further instructed that if I could not pay by that due date (which fell into the next month), I could call back to work with the service department. I know it sounds bad but since I have never missed a payment I could eat the late fee (last resort), and pay when I could before the end of the next month and STILL not be delinquent. There are ways around road blocks, it has worked for me and just though I would share. GOOD LUCK!
forced insurance class action
American banker
Wells suffers setback in force-placed case
By jeff horwitz
Feb 22, 2012 6:49pm et
1000 w. mcnab rd. ste. 150, pompano beach, fl 33069
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A federal judge has granted class action status to plaintiffs in a much-watched force-placed insurance case against wells fargo & co. and qbe insurance inc., opening the door to high-stakes litigation over alleged industry kickbacks.
The tuesday ruling in williams v. wells fargo et al by judge robert scola, jr. of u.s. district court for the southern district of florida reinforces banks' vulnerability to legal attacks over their purchase of so-called forced-placed insurance on behalf of borrowers whose homeowner policies have lapsed.
Force-placed hazard insurance is designed to protect creditors in the event that an uninsured borrower's property is damaged. mortgage contracts typically entitle banks to purchase such policies on behalf of homeowners who fail to maintain hazard coverage themselves and to pass on to them the cost of the coverage.
The florida suit does not take issue with the cost of such policies directly but instead accuses wells and qbe of inflating the cost of such coverage by secretly paying themselves unearned commissions.
Scola cited evidence that the activities of wells and qbe, an australian insurer that administers wells' force-placed insurance program, amounted to unjust enrichment and a breach of good faith. in a sometimes harshly worded opinion, judge scola accused the bank of threatening to retaliate against the 20, 000 homeowners eligible to become class members in the florida litigation.
"wells fargo has unabashedly set out its threats to retaliate against any homeowner seeking to avoid alleged excessive and inflated force-placed insurance premiums, " scola wrote. the judge added that he intends to prevent the bank from "establishing post-litigation, vindictive business practices."
For wells and qbe the stakes are large, with more than $50 million in premiums at issue in florida alone. evidence introduced into the public record in the case could result in further headaches at a time when banks force-placed insurance practices face significant scrutiny. new york state's department of financial services has sent out numerous subpoenas to banks and insurers as part of an ongoing investigation, and the office of the comptroller of the currency has also expressed interest in force-placed market.
Qbe pays out 40% of total force-placed premiums as commission to its subsidiaries and wells fargo, the florida plaintiffs charge. and only 7.6 cents of every dollar of premium revenue qbe collects goes to paying claims, according to a plaintiffs' analysis based on qbe data. such a low payout ratio would be regarded as unacceptable in most states. guidelines laid out by the national association of insurance commissioners instruct insurers to aim for a payout of 60%.
Attorneys for the plaintiffs also attacked how qbe sets its rates. camley delach served as qbe's lone actuary for force-place policies written on behalf of wells fargo in florida, according to a deposition discussed at the class certification hearing. it was her job to gauge the financial risks the underwriter faced. but delach said in a deposition that she works from her pennsylvania home, performs no actuarial work to determine qbe's prices, and has "no idea" why qbe prices its policies the way it does.
"it is not necessary for someone to be an actuary to critique this procedure, " judge scola wrote in his opinion certifying the plaintiff class.
The information about the wells and qbe practices was presented in open court on february 9. american banker obtained the case files when they were originally posted to pacer, an online database of federal court records.
Wells fargo and qbe accused plaintiffs attorneys of "misconduct" for bringing the information into a public forum. "defendants have done everything within their control to protect the confidentiality of their business information, " wells and qbe stated.
The defendants subsequently argued to the court that a "manifest injustice" would occur if the details of their business relationship were made public. the court agreed on february 22 to seal or redact related information, including much of that described above.
Emails presented in those documents suggest that wells employees themselves were uncomfortable with the high premiums qbe was charging wells' borrowers. following an american banker article alleging that force-placed insurers were charging as much as 10 times the cost of borrowers' previous hazard insurance, an unnamed wells executive allegedly told colleagues that the bank needed to rein qbe in.
"[p]remium pricing in unregulated states [those where qbe is not subject state rate caps] is unacceptable, requires immediate address, significant quality/oversight concerns based on loan cited in ab [american banker] article and the issue found by escrow team, " an unnamed wells executive wrote in an email to colleagues that was read by a plaintiffs' attorney in court and cited in a now-sealed powerpoint presentation. these issues needed to be raised with "senior qbe leadership, " the wells official wrote.
"the quotes from wells fargo emails were taken out of context, " wells fargo spokesman tom goyda wrote to american banker last week. in a subsequent email, goyda called the class certification a "procedural" matter and said that wells has no intention" of retaliating against borrowers as the judge suggested. qbe declined to comment on the case.
In court, the defendants have argued that their high margins on florida policies are warranted by risks posed by hurricane-related losses.
Arguments made in the certification hearing suggest that the plaintiffs' intend to focus their case on qbe's "surplus line" status. as a 2011 american banker story reported, surplus line status exempts qbe from state rate caps and enables it to charge wells fargo borrowers whatever the bank will allow. in return, qbe pays wells commissions on every policy written, even though the bank directly performs little or no force-placed work. plaintiffs attorneys and consumer advocates have labeled this a pay-to-play arrangement, a charge the defendants deny.
By law insurance agents obligated to seek to buy coverage from state-regulated insurers first and only in the absence of such an option to resort to surplus-line coverage. to protect borrowers and regulated carriers, insurance agents are supposed to document a "diligent effort" to find a regulated insurer. in the case of the florida defendants, qbe used its own employee, michael seminario, as the insurance agent.
Criticism of force-placed insurers goes beyond those selling surplus-line coverage. assurant inc. is dominant participant in florida's force-placed market and is regulated in every other state in which it operates.
A 2010 american banker story found that homeowner complaints about assurant and qbe were similar, with both companies being accused of paying unearned commissions to banks, charging high rates and backdating policies to boost premium revenues. one difference is that assurant's financial filings indicate it pays out the equivalent of 35% of premiums in claims.
"in submitting filings, our actuarial team considers a number of factors including actual experience over a multi-year period, reinsurance costs, and the significant catastrophe exposures and potential loss costs in florida to help establish our rates, " an assurant spokeswoman wrote in an email.
Qbe's unregulated status in some states — and its freedom to charge whatever premiums it wishes — may put it and its bank clients front-and-center in force-placed litigation. wells argued during the february 9 class certification hearing that borrowers charged for force-placed insurance could have avoided it and therefore should not be permitted to sue over its allegedly inflated price. the court was not persuaded.
"that's like a defense for usury, " judge scola said. "[y]ou are going to have a defense that they live a bad lifestyle which leads them to be more in a position to be taken advantage of...? that makes no sense."
Following the florida class certification, plaintiffs' attorneys intend to file similar suits in other jurisdictions.
"there will likely be national class actions, " says jeff golant, one of the plaintiffs' attorneys on the case.
transfered to wells fargo dealers services
We have had an auto loan with Wells Fargo Auto Finance since May 2007, the car will be paid off Aug 2012. In Jan we got a letter they had transfered our account to Wells Fargo Dealers Services, which contained no address, no phone numbers, etc. It stated they would be changing our account number after almost five years of payments, and a new payment address. We were suppose to get a statement by March 5th 2012. We never got a statement for Feb 12 so I sent in an old statement with a payment of over $369 for a 2003 Mercury. It was sent to the Az address that we have been sending payments to for years.
When we did not get a March statement, I processed a money order for $369.87 and called Wells Fargo Auto Financing, and this guy gave me a toll free number for Wells Fargo Dealers Services which he said was automated but I would be charged $6.00 to use. I told him I wanted to speak to a human and refused to pay any monies, to get a statement I waS promised. I had no new account number or address to send the payment to. I was told to give a checking account number because if I mailed the payment it would not reach CA in time, and they would report me late to the credit bureaus. ( none of our payments were ever late) I also was told they never received the Feb payment I sent to the Az Wells Fargo Auto finance. They threatened this could result in repo, and that I was responsible for providing proof by getting a receipt from the money order company. We always pay by money orders as we both are almost seventy and find it's easier to pay bills this way.
My contract for purchase for this vehicle was with Wells Fargo Auto Finance NOT Wells Fargo Dealer Services. My auto insurance has Wells Fargo Auto Finance as the first one paid if something happens to this car. I do not have a contract with Wells Fargo Dealer Services, and if I had not called, and gotten a new account number and address where to send the payment, we would be two months behind in payments ( according to them) and they could repossess my car with five payments left.
I reported them to the NJ Banking and Insurance Commission for failure to send statements, failure to provide new account number, failure to provide address for payments so they could reach them in time, so they would not be late, and not affect my credit. I feel that there is a chance some people may have their cars repossessed if they don't call and get the needed info to make their payments, and if this is being done, when there are just a handful of payments left, this may be a scam. I would like to find a class action lawyer who would take on this company for turning over our account to Wells Fargo Dealers, when our contract is not with them, and the account number they have given us is not the account number on our legal documents. I am wondering if our purchase agreement is even legal any more, as the account number and the name of the finance company has changed without our written consent. The customer service reps were rude and threatening to the elderly, and wanting immediate payments, when I had already made one, and didn't have the address to send the second. If they repossessed our car, the payments would have been made. I am hoping someone reads this who can help us get this mess straightened out.
After paying on my car payment for five years I'm in the same situation as the rest. My truck was repossessed on may 13th by WFAD. My husband is currently out of the country and the payments were being made electronically. Some how June and July payments have gone missing and not received by the bank. Now they are requesting full payment for the vehicle. I went into the bank to speak with a supervisor who pretty much told me I'm screwed (just not in those words). Now the towing company wants me to pay up $75.00 to have my personal items removed from the vehicle. I have never in my lifetime experienced this type of treatment I went to my credit union to apply or the balance o the loan and they denied me due to wells fargo negative reportings for the last two months. How is this legal. Please someone explain this truck was almost paid off by the end of next year. I have made payments since 2008 on time but they have no record of this. Something is jut not sitting right with this. If there is a class action suit. I'm all over it
I am not sure where you are based on your posting. However, it probably is a good idea to consult an attorney as to remedies available to you. Attorneys who practice consumer protection law probably would be able to help you with these issues.
Kenneth (Chicago Lawyer)
I am dealing with the same thing right now. They lost my Jan. payment. I have proof from my bank that my payment was made, but for some reason that isn't good enough. They said until they know where the money is they aren't crediting my account. I figured out that the payments was made to an old account ( Wells Fargo Bank ) they are now "Wells Fargo Dealer Services". They said they can't get into that account so there is no way of knowing for sure that is where the money is, even though my bank (US Bank ) has told them that is the account they paid it to. In the mean time I am one month behind and the late fees are stacking up with interest. This has been going on since Jan. of this year. I don't know how this is even legal?
I have had a similar experience. I pay online and when I went to make my Jan payment it showed I didn't have a payment due until Feb. So in Feb I logged on and paid the amount due. In March I began getting calls from a new company Wells Fargo Auto Dealer and they were so incredibly rude it brought me to tears and threaten me in the same manner which happen to you. There is no record of my exemplary payment history with Wells Fargo Auto Finance online anymore and WFAD claimed those records have been destroyed for as required by law. Not sure what law that is. I was so emotionally beat up I paid so I would not loose my car and stopped the calls. But I have followed up with the a detailed letter to upper management and I continue to look for similar accounts like mine and yours. Thank you for posting.
modification run around and lies!
i have been trying to modify our home for 3yrs now, shortly after our hosue went to adjustable (and the housing market took a hit) avoiding any bad situations such as missed payments, foreclosure, short sale.throughtout.this process we have been denied 3times for hamp, modification and repayment plan and or forebarences. i have been told to miss payments, they took a payment and opened up an escrow account and never informed us of such, throwing us another month in the rear.we have been passed off to rep after rep, department after department and fell through the cracks, but we have still made our paymetns.we have been told (evnthough we were owing dec.jan. feb) that they were going to foreclose, we should short sale (they even took us out of the short sale review process even though we never called and requesated it) i unfortunately know why people take thier lives, and destroy their homes before they walka way form it, its sad but so ture. after lviing through this experience. we were offered a repalyment plan of 4000 a mth for 8mths i was told this woulds zero out our accfount to current and we would only owe current, i asked its 32000 where is the extra money im not even close to oweing 32000 HELLO.no answers.when i called to say we were denying this program i was told then i would be out of loss mitigation and that hthey would start the process on foreclosure of my home, and that even if i paid the amount past due foreclosure or short sale is in the future. REALLY.i was told a supervisor emailed someone to cancel the arrangement, he told me that because im going to pay (get caught up) on friday that im breaking the arrangement i asked what arragnement i never signed anything he told me its a verbal contract OH HELL No.so now evnthough i want to catch my house up im not able to because someone is not doing their jhob and im stillbeing told they will foreclose. HMMMMM something is wrong here.
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All I can say to anyone looking to refinance or execute a HARP2 refi is to stay clear of Wells Fargo. If you are a minority specifically Hispanic or Black you will be asked your ethnicity and immediately your rate will go up by .5 to 1 full point. An excellent credit history or payment history will not matter. This is just the beginning with Wells Fargo. Next they will play the script of delays. They will claim they lost parts of your application. They will mail you a new bundle of paperwork. Then they will "accidentally " cancel your application a month into the process and claim that it was an internal error. Now 30 days into the process the script continues with a new loan application. Currently on day 45. All my research on Wells Fargo's fraudulent practices show that they will most likely stretch out the process to 130 days or the refinance may never happen at all. My advise "avoid Wells Fargo all together". Bank with a Credit Union or a your regional banks when possible.
fees & levy
I have have a wells fargo checking account. In 2007 i hired a tax advocate to help me become "uncollectible" in status both both the federal and state level after losing my long time career at the end of 2007. The state franchise paperwork was not correctly handled and therefore the uncollectible status was not achieved on the state level. Which i am handling now with new tax person. So as of last year the state franchise board put a levy on my accounts with wells fargo for $1900.00. Last year the wells fargo looked into my account to see if there was any money to satisfy the levy and they saw there was no money. They charged me a 98.00 legal processing fee which made my account insufficient and then charged me an nsf charge of 35.00. None of this money went the the state franchise tax board. Just last month the same thing happened only this time i had three small charges posted to my account soon to clear that would have left me with a 14.00 balance. Before the three small charges cleared my account the wells fargo legal department swooped in and charged my account a look-n-see fee of 98.00 and then cleared my three charges and charged me three insufficient fees of 35.00 each. None of this money went to my debt with the state franchise board. They also put a levy on my other two accounts that i no longer use and took .11 cents and .14 cents out of each account as a legal processing fee. So i am guessing this legal processing fee is not a flat rate? It is ever changing. I have been on welfare since july of 2011. It is not a proud place and one i am trying to get out of. Seems my bank is setting me up for failure or defeating my success. My mom placed 200.00 cash in my account yesterday in texas so that i could get my truck worked on this weekend. I went to get the cash out of the bank within 30 minutes of her depositing it. When i got to bank they said my account was 102.42. I said how could that be? They told me wells fargo legal department took 100.00 processing fee. So when all is said and done wells fargo has charged 436.00 in fees to a single mother that is barely making it in a truck that barely runs and none of this money has gone towards the debt i owe the state franchise board?
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wells fargo bank is very tough to deal with if you are battling them alone
Wells Fargo Bank needs to be pressured with Imminent (BK) Threats or Mediation Law and Procedures.
They are basically a giant collection agency. They purchase the distressed mortgage at Extreme Discounts from various key players in the sub-prime arena. They collect aggressively on this paper. They do not play by the rules and need to be pressed hard.
We have completed successful loan restructuring cases with Wells Fargo Bank. They are all long run and brutal battles.
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contacts for presidents office - tell them I said hi!
Please share out to as many people as possible, I want to stop someone from making my mistake and try to help if they have. I bought a truck and took out a loan from wells fargo dealer services three years ago. At this time they have my truck because of a missed payment six months ago that I was never informed of and I need to pay off my whole balance of $9, 500.00 to get it back they will not accept the missed payment of $250.00. This is a situation of the big bank who does not care one bit about the people they hurt. However I have something they don’t want others to have and I am more than happy to share, it took a week and several managers to finally reach the office of the company president here is the contact information in case you or anyone else ever has a problem. There is not a thing I can do to get my truck back but if you wanna do a girl a favor and let big business know we’re sick of it give a call or drop an email and tell them cindy said hi! Phone: [protected], email: officeofthepresident. [protected]@wellsfargo.com, address po box 168071, irving tx 75016.
that number is given to people from customer services. just wanted to let you know..
wells fargo bank discriminates
The grants pass, oregon branch sucks big time! The managers apparently don't have any authority to make decisions in behalf of customers. I made a small deposit of an insurance check and they put a hold on it without notifying me. When I tried to use the money the same day, the transaction didn't go through. When I went back to the bank, they told me that their policy is posted in the drive through, lane 2 (Where I made the deposit). When I went out and looked and pointed out to them that it wasn't posted there, they said the "policy" is posted on my receipt. I showed them the receipt and the policy was not posted there either. The "manager" said "well, I could release the funds but you don't have a big account here, so we don't have much of a relationship and I base my decisions on relationships!" I told her that i've been banking there for over a year and she reiterated that my account isn't the "type" that they consider a relationship. Again, I said the policy wasn't told to me verbally, or in writing on the building or receipt and it was an insurance check that they could verify the authenticity of. She refused to be of service. I'll be telling everyone I know how much wells fargo bank sucks!
Strunk & whythelong faces,
Gee, do I think both of you work for this sucky bank?
Here's the deal, you're right Strunk, I don't like the "DECISION" because it wasn't what was posted. The posted notice specifically says "deposits made after 4 pm will be held until the next business day. My deposit was made at 11 am and I wasn't TOLD it would be put on hold, nor was that noted on my receipt, so I would have no reason to question their posted policy.
whythelongfaces, I opened this account more than two years ago, have been a customer in good standing and have NEVER bounced a check. So yes, I would have to be told they're going to verify my deposit since it was a check drawn on a billion dollar business, I've deposited them for more than a year and they've never held it before. Beyond that, get real! I'd love to see you go back and recite the "ins and outs" of any contact you signed two years ago! I expected business as usual! You obviously work for the bank. No need to deny it, I won't believe you!
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When you file for bankruptcy and then reaffirm your debt with any company you are no longer protected by the bankruptcy laws. Companies are not obligated by law to send monthly statements although most do as a courtesy. If you reaffirmed with them I have a feeling they attempted to contact you by phone and by mail. It is doubtful they repossessed your vehicle without notice to you of any kind. Oddly you yourself wrote above "Now that my bankruptcy has been discharged, they were very clear in letting me know that if I do not pay the costs, I will be held liable." Hmmmm sounds like a lawful repossession to me. You should've contacted them and made acceptable payment arrangements long before this happened.
A due date is just that. The date the debt is due. Otherwise it would be called an approximate date or a send it when you have it date. However, you do have a grace period in which you have time to get your payments in each month without receiving a late fee. But your due date is still the date it's due. One day past your due date - your payment is late.
There are strict laws regarding repossession of vehicles and they vary from state to state. However, if you default on your loan then a company can generally repossess your vehicle as soon as 30 days past due.
Magnum7, Wells Fargo doesn't increase the amount of your monthly payment because you're late, the late fees are a separate charge and don't have to be paid for your monthly payment to clear. You were paying less than your contracted monthly rate. Even though you insist this isn't true, that's the only way your amount due would increase each month. You should be glad they let it go without garnishing your wages.
By the way, sometimes it takes the dealership a long time to get the information on the customer to the financing company, which delays the first statement. When this happens you're supposed to have the dealership process your payments for you, since technically you're not the bank's customer yet.
If you signed and reaffirmed a contract you should know you need to keep paying according to the contract, whether they mail or call to remind you or not.
Wells Fargo tried to pull a scam on me too. First, they never sent my payment notice claiming they didnt have me in the system, even after calling them 3 times and giving them all info including address, phone number, social security number ect. Well 1 day after my payment was due, still with no known address to send the payment too, WF starts ringing my phone off the hook at work and my home. When I finally get the payment statement, I sent what I agreed to without their late fee. To them this constituted that I didnt pay on time and from there the pyramid scheme started, until my payment finally reached over $600.00 a month because of non payment of their late fee. I made the payments that I signed a contract to make until their non customer service decided to jack them so high and refused to remove that first late charge I finally said F__K IT! You're gonna eat this car and was more than happy to see the repo man and took him to the vehicle. This messed up my credit, and since I have bought 3 vehicles (Cash). They tried to take this to court using a local lawyer, but when I told the judge what they did, the lawyer stopped the trial, and spoke with me outside. (They never got their damn judgement, and WONT.) Also if you anything like this happen report it to the BBB and keep a record, I did : )... and it sure came in handy. Couldn't never get my credit rating back up but that's just a matter of time knowing not to deal with Wells Fargo anymore. I'm sure that bailout money from my taxes covered their butts on my vehicle.
Wells Fargo (i call it Wells Fu@@o) did the same thing to me! I am an emergency room RN of 30 years. I got injured, and short term disability became long term disability, and finally SSDI. Long story short, i got behind 2 months on my (on time, every time) payment, but keep in contact with Wells F@@ko about my situation. I told them i only needed 10 days to get caught up on payment, and would not be late again. They agreed with this. 3 days later, a tow truck shows up, and driver said Wells F@@ko sent him. I went and got the keys, bag, and a screwdriver. Threw my belongings in the bag, took my tags off, then opened the garage door, and handed the driver the keys. I told him to have a nice day, and go tell Wells F@@ko to go F@@k themselves sideways, Then waived buh, bye in my pretty red leg cast from the front porch. I have, and will never pay then a friggin dime on that vehicle. They screwed me, now they are gonna get screwed rite back! Cant wait till they go under! I would never do business with them, for any reason again! I would not even do CPR on them, just stand there and watch them die! Liars!