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Unethical and Dishonest
BEWARE~~Ruel Morton and his business manager Bruce Beam are two people you do not want to get involved with. They are incredibly dishonest. They talk about how they will partner with you in the FHTM business and make all your business dreams come true. Well, be careful. The same was said to me and it did not happen. I was invited to his ranch in east Texas for a business conference. When we got there, we were told to leave our bags at our vehicle and one of the managers would bring them to the "guest" quarters. When my bags were brought to me, they had been damaged quite extensively. Bruce Beam told me that they had been driven over by a tractor and that they would would be replaced and taken care of. The bag that my clothes were in, was completely destroyed but the contents were not damaged. My laptop was in the other bag and obviously was in very bad shape. The screen was smashed and the body of the computer itself was beyond repair. Bruce told me to get it fixed or replaced and let him know and all would be taken care of. I took the computer to a computer repair shop and they informed me that it would cost more to fix than it would to just replace. So I proceeded to do some extensive research to find the best possible price on a replacement computer. After about 2 weeks, I contacted Bruce Beam and told him that I had found a replacement for a much better price and he told me to purchase the computer and send him the receipt for reimbursement. It has now been nearly 2 years and I have yet to receive a reimbursement for the computer. I was told by Bruce Beam, in multiple emails, which I kept, that he was sorry for the delay and that Ruel Morton would send me a check immediately for the cost. I am now very certain, since my emails will no longer be answered, that I will not be reimbursed at all. I am extremely glad that I am no longer "partners" with these people and this lesson, while not cheap, was a lesson that all should be aware of. If they can be so dishonest about this, one can only imagine how dishonest they would continue to be in the business venture. The replacement cost of a laptop computer should be a mere blip on the screen of someone making several million dollars a year.
FHTM IS AN AMERICAN DREAM
The reason why I indicate that because FHTM which has changed my life so much. Now, I am very interesting in running this business. This company help my income increase significantly. I know some people haven't believed and complained something on FHTM's system. In fact, They are the unsuccessful business people due to some reasons. I think they ran their business go the wrong way. Moreover, they didn't have a strong mind and patient to go straight to their goal. Most American 95% only know the normal way to make money by working for salary and the rest of 5% do business. Why you don't give a chance to your life to make a freedom income similar with my case. The good thing of this business is " WILLABLE, SELLABLE, and TRUSTABLE ASSETS". The last thing I want to say with some unsucessful people that if you are not success to attain your goal, you shouldn't push other people down following your steps. In this difficulty currently economic, a lot of people wish to have a job. Most companies required skills and experience, or degrees. However, in FHTM where give free training without required experience. In fact, 100% business work required investment. Thus, the most simple thing is "NO INVESTMENT, NO INCOME". Then, we talk about the founder - Paul Oberson who has donated so much for poor people and done charity to schools. To me, a company with good owner will be a good place to help a chance for people. Until now, I still remember his sentence that " RESPECT DIFFICULTY, RESPECT DIFFICULTY, AND RESPECT DIFFICULTY".
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
FHTM is an American Dream.
The reason why I indicate that because FHTM which has changed my life so much. Now, I am very interesting in running this business. This company help my income increase significantly. I know some people haven't believed and complained something on FHTM's system. In fact, They are the unsuccessful business people due to some reasons. I think they ran their business go the wrong way. Moreover, they didn't have a strong mind and patient to go straight to their goal. Most American 95% only know the normal way to make money by working for salary and the rest of 5% do business. Why you don't give a chance to your life to make a freedom income similar with my case. The good thing of this business is " WILLABLE, SELLABLE, and TRUSTABLE ASSETS". The last thing I want to say with some unsucessful people that if you are not success to attain your goal, you shouldn't push other people down following your steps. In this difficulty currently economic, a lot of people wish to have a job. Most companies required skills and experience, or degrees. However, in FHTM where give free training without required experience. In fact, 100% business work required investment. Thus, the most simple thing is "NO INVESTMENT, NO INCOME". Then, we talk about the founder - Paul Oberson who has donated so much for poor people and done charity to schools. To me, a company with good owner will be a good place to help a chance for people. Until now, I still remember his sentence that " RESPECT DIFFICULTY, RESPECT DIFFICULTY, AND RESPECT DIFFICULTY".
This is a real opportunity if treated with the respect and effort that must be put forth with any new business venture. It takes work, persistence and some other common things, like integrity to be successful at this are any think else!
This is no different from that aspect, however my few short months with this company has been very positive. It has worked when I have worked it.
Furthermore I'm more excited about the potential then when I joined 6 months ago. With other business interest I have built this part time. I have been very rewarded for the effort to date.
Does that mean it has been easy? No! Simple yes. One of the best things about this business and worst are the same. People.
But it is also the power. This is truly a pay it forward opportunity.
So when viewing google and other opinions. Get the facts.
Google lawsuits on google from google, you want see any.
Now check the same thing about google from yahoo and low and behold.
Be careful of your sources it can lead to a very bad decision.
Most of the complaints once you dig deeper is bunch of whiners, most probably never succeed at much of any thing else. Most go by the vain of my uplink didn't help me etc. Bunch of whiners
Kyle
Kyle
I found this blog elsewhere and wanted to share it with you. It is not my work, nor my opinion.
'Amway' and 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing' are the American Dream made Nightmare
Here are two recent articles from 'USA Today' for your free-thinking readers.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2011-02-07-multilevelmarketing03_CV_N.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/2010-10-15-multilevelmarketing14_CV_N.htm
The criminogenic organization known as 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing' is an 'Amway' copy-cat. i.e. 'FHTM' is the reality-inverting label over the entrance to yet another self-perpetuating 'MLM business opportunity' cult. 'FHTM' was instigated, and is run, by a gang of exceedingly-greedy, but otherwise-mediocre, little raketeers from Kentucky. These narcissistic parasites have begun to grow rich by peddling an unoriginal lie whilst steadfastly pretending moral and intellectual authority.
In the adult world of quantifiable reality, the authenticity of the 'FHTM' lie is currently being challenged all over the USA, after the State of Montana charged that 'FHTM' was actually a dissimulated pyramid scheme. However, exactly like the billionaire bosses of the 'Amway' mob, the millionaire bosses of the 'FHTM' mob posed as innocent Christian businessmen/philanthropists under attack and instructed their aggressive echelon of attorneys to negotiate a 'settlement' with the plaintiffs. i.e. Without admitting any fault, they agreed to hand-over a significant chunk of their ill-gotten gains in Montana, in order to continue their clandestine criminal activities elsewhere.
It is common knowledge in the USA that 'FHTM' is a pernicious blame-the-victim scam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZxCK4adtuA . Indeed, it is common knowledge in the USA that all so-called 'Multi-Level Marketing' companies are shielding essentially the same, premeditated, closed-market swindle.
This general video warning has been recently produced by the Bureau of Consumer Protection at the US Federal Trade Commission http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoB2PKYbu4Q . However, it beggars belief that senior FTC officials like Eileen Harrington can use public funds to pretend that the FTC wants to protect the American people from 'MLM business opportunity' fraud, when, for decades, other senior FTC officials have allowed this cancer not only to gnaw its way into the USA, but also into the rest of the world.
Despite more than half a century of damning-evidence, senior US government trade officials prefer to remain blissfully-ignorant of the fact that behind so-called 'MLM' companies has lurked the ongoing historical phenomenon of criminogenic, or pernicious, cultism. Meanwhile, the self-appointed bosses of these reality-inverting, totalitarian groups continue to rake-in vast fortunes by peddling variations of the same Utopian fiction as fact.
'MLM business opportunity' fraud is undoubtedly a form of major organized crime spawned in the USA. It should never have been left to ill-informed, and/or corrupt, American regulators to deal with this internal threat to democracy and the rule of law.
'Amway' and 'FHTM' are the American Dream made Nightmare.
David Brear (copyright 2011)
I found this in another blog and thought I would share this interesting comment:
'Amway' and 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing' are the American Dream made Nightmare
Here are two recent articles from 'USA Today' for your free-thinking readers.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2011-02-07-multilevelmarketing03_CV_N.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/2010-10-15-multilevelmarketing14_CV_N.htm
The criminogenic organization known as 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing' is an 'Amway' copy-cat. i.e. 'FHTM' is the reality-inverting label over the entrance to yet another self-perpetuating 'MLM business opportunity' cult. 'FHTM' was instigated, and is run, by a gang of exceedingly-greedy, but otherwise-mediocre, little raketeers from Kentucky. These narcissistic parasites have begun to grow rich by peddling an unoriginal lie whilst steadfastly pretending moral and intellectual authority.
In the adult world of quantifiable reality, the authenticity of the 'FHTM' lie is currently being challenged all over the USA, after the State of Montana charged that 'FHTM' was actually a dissimulated pyramid scheme. However, exactly like the billionaire bosses of the 'Amway' mob, the millionaire bosses of the 'FHTM' mob posed as innocent Christian businessmen/philanthropists under attack and instructed their aggressive echelon of attorneys to negotiate a 'settlement' with the plaintiffs. i.e. Without admitting any fault, they agreed to hand-over a significant chunk of their ill-gotten gains in Montana, in order to continue their clandestine criminal activities elsewhere.
It is common knowledge in the USA that 'FHTM' is a pernicious blame-the-victim scam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZxCK4adtuA . Indeed, it is common knowledge in the USA that all so-called 'Multi-Level Marketing' companies are shielding essentially the same, premeditated, closed-market swindle.
This general video warning has been recently produced by the Bureau of Consumer Protection at the US Federal Trade Commission http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoB2PKYbu4Q . However, it beggars belief that senior FTC officials like Eileen Harrington can use public funds to pretend that the FTC wants to protect the American people from 'MLM business opportunity' fraud, when, for decades, other senior FTC officials have allowed this cancer not only to gnaw its way into the USA, but also into the rest of the world.
Despite more than half a century of damning-evidence, senior US government trade officials prefer to remain blissfully-ignorant of the fact that behind so-called 'MLM' companies has lurked the ongoing historical phenomenon of criminogenic, or pernicious, cultism. Meanwhile, the self-appointed bosses of these reality-inverting, totalitarian groups continue to rake-in vast fortunes by peddling variations of the same Utopian fiction as fact.
'MLM business opportunity' fraud is undoubtedly a form of major organized crime spawned in the USA. It should never have been left to ill-informed, and/or corrupt, American regulators to deal with this internal threat to democracy and the rule of law.
'Amway' and 'FHTM' are the American Dream made Nightmare.
David Brear (copyright 2011)
FTC Steps Up Efforts Against Scams That Target Financially-Strapped Consumers
More Than 90 Actions Brought By Commission and Its Law Enforcement Partners
Attorney General Roy Cooper today joined state attorneys general from across the country and the Federal Trade Commission to announce a national sweep targeting business opportunity scams, including actions against four companies that have targeted North Carolina consumers.
“When jobs are scarce, claims to help people make money fast become plentiful, ” Cooper said. “Consumers think they’re buying into a great way to earn a living, but they could end up paying far more than they’ll ever make.”
In challenging economic times, many people in the state are looking for work. Unfortunately, sometimes they find scams instead of legitimate opportunities. Complaints to the Attorney General’s Consumer Protection Division about business opportunity, work-at-home schemes, and other employment related scams were up 11 percent last year, from 177 complaints in 2009 to 197 complaints in 2010.
Operation Empty Promises is a national sweep by the FTC, Cooper and other state attorneys general aimed at stopping business opportunity scams and educating consumers about how to avoid them. Announced as part of the sweep are actions taken by Cooper’s Consumer Protection Division against four companies including Fortune Hi Tech Marketing who claims that people who buy into its business earn thousands of dollars a year. Based on consumer complaints, Cooper’s office launched an investigation into FHTM in mid 2010. Consumers say they paid money to the company but were only able to make money by recruiting others into the scheme, not by selling any actual goods or services. A total of 25 consumers have now complained about FHTM, and Cooper’s office is investigating the company. Although this case is currently under investigation, it’s important for consumers to know that a pyramid scheme is a violation of the law and is defined as any plan in which a participant pays money for the chance to receive money upon the introduction of new participants into the program.
“We’re looking closely at business opportunities that seem to offer false hopes, and also reaching out to educate consumers on how to recognize and avoid fraud, ” Cooper said.
Later this month, Cooper’s office plans to launch a tool kit to educate consumers on fake business opportunities which will include print, web and video materials. The goal is to prevent North Carolina consumers from losing their hard-earned money to scammers trying to take advantage of a tough employment market.
“Don’t let scammers use empty promises of jobs with high earnings to take your money, ” Cooper warned consumers. “Before you agree to invest in any business, check it out thoroughly and always be skeptical of claims of guaranteed profits.”
Cooper has taken action against a number of other kinds of scams fueled by hard times. For example, his Consumer Protection Division has won 13 cases against foreclosure assistance and loan modification scams in the past five years, including two so far in 2011.The Federal Trade Commission today stepped up its ongoing campaign against scammers who falsely promise guaranteed jobs and opportunities to “be your own boss” to consumers who are struggling with unemployment and diminished incomes as a consequence of the economic downturn.
“Operation Empty Promises, ” a multi-agency law enforcement initiative today announced more than 90 enforcement actions, including three new FTC cases and developments in seven other matters, 48 criminal actions by the Department of Justice (many of which involved the assistance of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service), seven additional civil actions by the Postal Inspection Service, and 28 actions by state law enforcement agencies in Alaska, California, Indiana, Kansas, Maryland, Montana, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Washington, and the District of Columbia.
In a press conference at the FTC, David Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, was joined by Tony West, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division of the Department of Justice; Greg Campbell, Deputy Chief Inspector of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service; North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper; and a California consumer who had bought into a program to start his own Internet business.
“The victims of these frauds are our neighbors – people who are trying to make an honest living, ” said David C. Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. “Under pressure to make ends meet, they risked their limited financial resources in response to the promise of a job, an income – a chance at a profitable home-based business. But these turned out to be empty promises – and the people who counted on them ended up with high levels of frustration and even higher levels of debt.”
The FTC has updated consumer education materials to help consumers avoid falling victim to these scams. Screen shots from the websites of some of the operators charged in this law enforcement sweep, as well as video footage of FTC Consumer Protection Director Vladeck and FTC attorney Daniel Hanks, are also available at the FTC website.
FHTM makes it onto the FTC list of rip-offs. Looks like this company is about to implode
FTC Steps Up Efforts Against Scams That Target Financially-Strapped Consumers
More Than 90 Actions Brought By Commission and Its Law Enforcement Partners
The Federal Trade Commission today stepped up its ongoing campaign against scammers who falsely promise guaranteed jobs and opportunities to “be your own boss” to consumers who are struggling with unemployment and diminished incomes as a consequence of the economic downturn.
“Operation Empty Promises, ” a multi-agency law enforcement initiative today announced more than 90 enforcement actions, including three new FTC cases and developments in seven other matters, 48 criminal actions by the Department of Justice (many of which involved the assistance of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service), seven additional civil actions by the Postal Inspection Service, and 28 actions by state law enforcement agencies in Alaska, California, Indiana, Kansas, Maryland, Montana, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Washington, and the District of Columbia.
In a press conference at the FTC, David Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, was joined by Tony West, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division of the Department of Justice; Greg Campbell, Deputy Chief Inspector of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service; North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper; and a California consumer who had bought into a program to start his own Internet business.
“The victims of these frauds are our neighbors – people who are trying to make an honest living, ” said David C. Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. “Under pressure to make ends meet, they risked their limited financial resources in response to the promise of a job, an income – a chance at a profitable home-based business. But these turned out to be empty promises – and the people who counted on them ended up with high levels of frustration and even higher levels of debt.”
The FTC has updated consumer education materials to help consumers avoid falling victim to these scams. Screen shots from the websites of some of the operators charged in this law enforcement sweep, as well as video footage of FTC Consumer Protection Director Vladeck and FTC attorney Daniel Hanks, are also available at ftc.gov/bizopps or youtube.com/FTCvideos.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/73082559/FHTM-named-in-FTC-investigation-of-illegal-companies
www.fhtmclassaction.info for all of the details
FHTM is about to change the lives of tens of thousands more when they implode from all of the lawsuits and criminal investigations happening across this great land of ours.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/73082559/FHTM-named-in-FTC-investigation-of-illegal-companies
FHTM is no longer authorized to use the DuPont name, logo, or trademark in any way. FHTM should immediately discontinue the use of any materials containing the DuPont logo. Our right to use DuPont’s name, logo and trademark was revoked because FHTM abused the system by creating and distributing unapproved marketing materials that displayed the DuPont logo.
Lets do something about this.
Hi everyone, Im pretty much in the same situation as everyone here. My family member to advantage of my trust and thats why I am here. Myself and my better half have been doing a lot of research on this company. I think that if we can all get together we can do something about this. Nothings gonna happen overnight ... but we can do this. Please email me with your story ... and join the contact list to build our own pyramid ... we'll use their formula to bring them down. Are you ready? [protected]@yahoo.ca
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Behind your investigation that all their fake pretention of being partners with these fortune 100 compnies and being proven and fined by the Montana Court why not issue a legal order to cease and desist from all the States that they are operating. I believe too that FHTM is focus in recruitment of people of the United State to get rich quick and hanging all Indepentdent Representatives of the "Empty Promises". Happy 4th of July 2011 and God Bless America.
Courtesy of Corporate Frauds Watch
In 'MLM business opportunity' frauds, direct association with trusted brands has been a lie by Shyam
In a previous post, I drew your free-thinking readers' attention to some remarkable optical illusions which clearly demonstrate that the human mind can be easily deceived simply by changing the context in which we see things http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11553099 . A stalking-panther, when photographed in a jungle environment, is almost invisible to the human eye if shown only in black and white, but the same dangerous predator is immediately obvious to us when shown in color. Two squares of identical color and shade, appear to be of completely different color and shade when each one is surrounded by squares which alter the context in which our minds automatically see them.
No one now seriously disputes that deluded, core-'MLM' adherents look at 'MLM business opportunity' frauds only in two dimensions, 'positive' and 'negative.' A growing mountain of quantifiable evidence proves that vast numbers of ill-informed people have been deceived into entering this style of camouflaged totalitarian cult, then, on the pretext that 'the duplication of a step-by-step positive plan will lead to success, ' they have been intellectually-castrated (without their fully-informed consent) so that their minds will only accept what their leaders have arbitrarily defined as 'positive, ' and to exclude what these same charlatans have arbitrarily defined as 'negative.' When seen only in the fake 'positive' context of: 'Business', 'Independence', 'Financial Freedom', 'Direct Selling', 'Low Risk', 'Income Opportunity', etc. 'MLM business opportunity' frauds can appear to be authentic. This dangerous inversion of reality has been further confirmed by (apparently independent) : celebrity endorsements, glossy-advertizing, 'Direct Selling Associations', etc.; all of which form a pattern of ongoing, major, racketeering activity, because all these artificially-created, fake 'positive' contexts have actually been financed by the profits of fraud in order to continue to perpetrate the same fraud. It is only when you take 'MLM business opportunity' frauds out of their artificially-created, fake 'positive' contexts, that their true, predatory nature becomes immediately obvious.
One of the most-deceptive, fake 'positive' contexts in which 'MLM business opportunity' frauds have been presented is there apparent direct association with trusted brands. Currently, in the USA, the millionaire racketeers behind the 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing' lie are being challenged in court for having pretended direct association with some of America's most famous companies: including: General Electric, DuPont, Time, Verizon Wireless and AT&T, Travelocity, Peter Lamas and BSP Rewards Mall. For, according to documents presented in court, none of these companies has ever had a direct association with 'FHTM.' Furthermore, the officers of all these companies were actually unaware that their valuable brand-names and trademarks were being used by racketeers to commit fraud. The only connection that the 'FHTM' fake has had with all these authentic companies is that 'FHTM' has been a corporate customer of their products and services. Yet again, the use of this devious technique of psychological persuasion has been copied from the original 'MLM business opportunity' fraud, 'Amway.'
According to an 'FHTM' whistleblower, Joseph Isaacs: 'When these companies find out that their trademarks, names, logos and reputations are being used by FHTM in order to aide FHTM in proving its legitimacy they will issue a cease and desist order, insist on actions to stop or not allow FHTM to market their products'. Indeed, currently every one of the companies listed above has either issued a cease and desist order against 'FHTM, ' or no longer allows itself to be aligned with 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing.'
Again, according to Joseph Isaacs, 'FHTM leaders would systematically tell prospects during presentations that FHTM must be legal, because no iconic Fortune 100 company would affiliate with a scam' and that 'all of these major companies had sent their CEO’s and legal teams to meet with FHTM founder, Paul Orberson, to evaluate his MLM company.' Self-evidently these scripted-lies were part of an overall pattern of ongoing, major, racketeering activity.
David Brear (copyright 2011)
Cut the crap. You can work till the cows come home and never make it to the top in FHTM (unless you are personally picked by Paul to succeed). There is NO proof anywhere to substantiate any of the lies that are told by FHTM and the Presidential Ambassadors. No facts to back up any of thier lies. There are however, dozens of things that have been proven LIES!
FTC Steps Up Efforts Against Scams That Target Financially-Strapped Consumers
More Than 90 Actions Brought By Commission and Its Law Enforcement Partners
The Federal Trade Commission today stepped up its ongoing campaign against scammers who falsely promise guaranteed jobs and opportunities to “be your own boss” to consumers who are struggling with unemployment and diminished incomes as a consequence of the economic downturn.
“Operation Empty Promises, ” a multi-agency law enforcement initiative today announced more than 90 enforcement actions, including three new FTC cases and developments in seven other matters, 48 criminal actions by the Department of Justice (many of which involved the assistance of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service), seven additional civil actions by the Postal Inspection Service, and 28 actions by state law enforcement agencies in Alaska, California, Indiana, Kansas, Maryland, Montana, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Washington, and the District of Columbia.
In a press conference at the FTC, David Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, was joined by Tony West, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division of the Department of Justice; Greg Campbell, Deputy Chief Inspector of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service; North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper; and a California consumer who had bought into a program to start his own Internet business.
“The victims of these frauds are our neighbors – people who are trying to make an honest living, ” said David C. Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. “Under pressure to make ends meet, they risked their limited financial resources in response to the promise of a job, an income – a chance at a profitable home-based business. But these turned out to be empty promises – and the people who counted on them ended up with high levels of frustration and even higher levels of debt.”
The FTC has updated consumer education materials to help consumers avoid falling victim to these scams. Screen shots from the websites of some of the operators charged in this law enforcement sweep, as well as video footage of FTC Consumer Protection Director Vladeck and FTC attorney Daniel Hanks, are also available at ftc.gov/bizopps or youtube.com/FTCvideos.
If you and your better half were actually doing thorough research on FHTM you would be noting that there are many positive aspects to this business. Using Google and only choosing to read the negative reports is not research. Research involves a complete investigation and includes examining the pros and cons of an issue. I see no positivity in your report whatsoever and there are many FHTM success stories. None of which involve any form of scamming anyone. For starters a networking marketing company is not a pyramid scam and the Canadian Government would never sanction the business or collect taxes from it if it were. It sounds as if you joined the business and assumed you could just sit back and have the dollars roll in. Just like with any other business you actually need to work in order to be successful at it. If you aren't willing to put forth some effort then don't expect rewards. I personally feel sorry for the person that brought you on board their team as it seems you expected to ride the road to success on their back. Do some work. Oh and while you are at it work a little harder at improving your research skills.
MLM Companies (such as FHTM) Have a Bad Name
Many individuals can be very skeptical toward multi-level marketing (MLM) companies (specifically towards Fortune High-Tech Marketing (FHTM)). Many are quick to assume that all MLM companies are illegal pyramid schemes that don’t even offer real products or are disguised as a business by using various products. It’s not shocking that many people are fearful about join a MLM network. They can’t help but wonder if they will get ripped off. Some former representatives (reps) from FHTM claim they got ripped off. Reps who do well at the company argue that the people who complain are the ones who are not making enough effort to network market and are unhappy with how much they end up making from the company. Reps who feel ripped off may have broken even with how much they spent on signing up with FHTM. This can happen is a rep is not proactive and does not purchase the products in the FHTM network.
It’s a too bad that there are companies out there that have ripped people off by trying to scam people with a high value product that is worth a tiny fraction of the original price. No one likes to feel as if they have been tricked or manipulated
Another reason why MLM companies, such as FHTM, have a bad name is merely because people are misinformed about the company. Some people just do not understand the concept of network marketing. People tend to know about Amway and Mary Kay. Sometimes it helps Reps to explain to potential customers how FHTM shares some similarities with these companies.
Many times in life, a person or company or organization gets a bad name because there are misunderstandings, lack of information and angry individuals who feel the need to exaggerate. When former reps from FHTM don’t reach their financial goals, they become disenchanted with the system. The network marketing system only works for people who constantly make an effort to make it work.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
If these frauds still ongoing and the cases filed with the FTC are legitimate and with solid evidences that this FHTM is a pyramid scam why not issue an order from the Department of Justice -Kentucky or from Washington D.C. a temporary closure or permanently, unless reasonable doubts have been proven otherwise. If those America's most famous companies has ever had any direct association with FHTM they must also file complaint against the racketeer (Paul Orberson-Founder) and shall request from DOJ to issue a cease and desist order against FHTM to stop marketing their products and services. Whatever FTC decision and appropriate legal action against FHTM it may take, the results will be a big whistleblow to all "Racketeers" or "MLM Companies" that are doing the same concept. The best outcome of the case will open the eyes of the many people of the United States to look for a legit Company open jobs with decent pay and will help the government to decrease the rate of unemployment and increase the percentage of tax filers. God Bless America.
Courtesy of Corporate Frauds Watch
In 'MLM business opportunity' frauds, direct association with trusted brands has been a lie by Shyam
In a previous post, I drew your free-thinking readers' attention to some remarkable optical illusions which clearly demonstrate that the human mind can be easily deceived simply by changing the context in which we see things http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11553099 . A stalking-panther, when photographed in a jungle environment, is almost invisible to the human eye if shown only in black and white, but the same dangerous predator is immediately obvious to us when shown in color. Two squares of identical color and shade, appear to be of completely different color and shade when each one is surrounded by squares which alter the context in which our minds automatically see them.
No one now seriously disputes that deluded, core-'MLM' adherents look at 'MLM business opportunity' frauds only in two dimensions, 'positive' and 'negative.' A growing mountain of quantifiable evidence proves that vast numbers of ill-informed people have been deceived into entering this style of camouflaged totalitarian cult, then, on the pretext that 'the duplication of a step-by-step positive plan will lead to success, ' they have been intellectually-castrated (without their fully-informed consent) so that their minds will only accept what their leaders have arbitrarily defined as 'positive, ' and to exclude what these same charlatans have arbitrarily defined as 'negative.' When seen only in the fake 'positive' context of: 'Business', 'Independence', 'Financial Freedom', 'Direct Selling', 'Low Risk', 'Income Opportunity', etc. 'MLM business opportunity' frauds can appear to be authentic. This dangerous inversion of reality has been further confirmed by (apparently independent) : celebrity endorsements, glossy-advertizing, 'Direct Selling Associations', etc.; all of which form a pattern of ongoing, major, racketeering activity, because all these artificially-created, fake 'positive' contexts have actually been financed by the profits of fraud in order to continue to perpetrate the same fraud. It is only when you take 'MLM business opportunity' frauds out of their artificially-created, fake 'positive' contexts, that their true, predatory nature becomes immediately obvious.
One of the most-deceptive, fake 'positive' contexts in which 'MLM business opportunity' frauds have been presented is there apparent direct association with trusted brands. Currently, in the USA, the millionaire racketeers behind the 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing' lie are being challenged in court for having pretended direct association with some of America's most famous companies: including: General Electric, DuPont, Time, Verizon Wireless and AT&T, Travelocity, Peter Lamas and BSP Rewards Mall. For, according to documents presented in court, none of these companies has ever had a direct association with 'FHTM.' Furthermore, the officers of all these companies were actually unaware that their valuable brand-names and trademarks were being used by racketeers to commit fraud. The only connection that the 'FHTM' fake has had with all these authentic companies is that 'FHTM' has been a corporate customer of their products and services. Yet again, the use of this devious technique of psychological persuasion has been copied from the original 'MLM business opportunity' fraud, 'Amway.'
According to an 'FHTM' whistleblower, Joseph Isaacs: 'When these companies find out that their trademarks, names, logos and reputations are being used by FHTM in order to aide FHTM in proving its legitimacy they will issue a cease and desist order, insist on actions to stop or not allow FHTM to market their products'. Indeed, currently every one of the companies listed above has either issued a cease and desist order against 'FHTM, ' or no longer allows itself to be aligned with 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing.'
Again, according to Joseph Isaacs, 'FHTM leaders would systematically tell prospects during presentations that FHTM must be legal, because no iconic Fortune 100 company would affiliate with a scam' and that 'all of these major companies had sent their CEO’s and legal teams to meet with FHTM founder, Paul Orberson, to evaluate his MLM company.' Self-evidently these scripted-lies were part of an overall pattern of ongoing, major, racketeering activity.
David Brear (copyright 2011)
FHTM makes it onto the FTC list of rip-offs. Looks like this company is about to implode
FTC Steps Up Efforts Against Scams That Target Financially-Strapped Consumers
More Than 90 Actions Brought By Commission and Its Law Enforcement Partners
The Federal Trade Commission today stepped up its ongoing campaign against scammers who falsely promise guaranteed jobs and opportunities to “be your own boss” to consumers who are struggling with unemployment and diminished incomes as a consequence of the economic downturn.
“Operation Empty Promises, ” a multi-agency law enforcement initiative today announced more than 90 enforcement actions, including three new FTC cases and developments in seven other matters, 48 criminal actions by the Department of Justice (many of which involved the assistance of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service), seven additional civil actions by the Postal Inspection Service, and 28 actions by state law enforcement agencies in Alaska, California, Indiana, Kansas, Maryland, Montana, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Washington, and the District of Columbia.
In a press conference at the FTC, David Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, was joined by Tony West, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division of the Department of Justice; Greg Campbell, Deputy Chief Inspector of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service; North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper; and a California consumer who had bought into a program to start his own Internet business.
“The victims of these frauds are our neighbors – people who are trying to make an honest living, ” said David C. Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. “Under pressure to make ends meet, they risked their limited financial resources in response to the promise of a job, an income – a chance at a profitable home-based business. But these turned out to be empty promises – and the people who counted on them ended up with high levels of frustration and even higher levels of debt.”
The FTC has updated consumer education materials to help consumers avoid falling victim to these scams. Screen shots from the websites of some of the operators charged in this law enforcement sweep, as well as video footage of FTC Consumer Protection Director Vladeck and FTC attorney Daniel Hanks, are also available at ftc.gov/bizopps or youtube.com/FTCvideos.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/73082559/FHTM-named-in-FTC-investigation-of-illegal-companies
www.fhtmclassaction.info for all of the details
FHTM is no longer authorized to use the DuPont name, logo, or trademark in any way. FHTM should immediately discontinue the use of any materials containing the DuPont logo. Our right to use DuPont’s name, logo and trademark was revoked because FHTM abused the system by creating and distributing unapproved marketing materials that displayed the DuPont logo.
Representatives
My complaint is that it gets extremely tiring to read of the stories where people feel they were mislead and left to fend for themselves while working FHTM. Let's be clear... FHTM is a company that gathers loyal customers for the companies it represents...and shares that concept with other people. That simple.
For the ones who need to have their hand held every step of the way...this business may not be a great fit for you. For those who choose to be proactive and take initiative? Go for it with FHTM.
Dish Network, Verizon, DuPont, GE, etc...all choose to partner with FHTM. Something good must be happening...
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
FHTM makes it onto the FTC list of rip-offs. Looks like this company is about to implode
FTC Steps Up Efforts Against Scams That Target Financially-Strapped Consumers
More Than 90 Actions Brought By Commission and Its Law Enforcement Partners
The Federal Trade Commission today stepped up its ongoing campaign against scammers who falsely promise guaranteed jobs and opportunities to “be your own boss” to consumers who are struggling with unemployment and diminished incomes as a consequence of the economic downturn.
“Operation Empty Promises, ” a multi-agency law enforcement initiative today announced more than 90 enforcement actions, including three new FTC cases and developments in seven other matters, 48 criminal actions by the Department of Justice (many of which involved the assistance of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service), seven additional civil actions by the Postal Inspection Service, and 28 actions by state law enforcement agencies in Alaska, California, Indiana, Kansas, Maryland, Montana, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Washington, and the District of Columbia.
In a press conference at the FTC, David Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, was joined by Tony West, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division of the Department of Justice; Greg Campbell, Deputy Chief Inspector of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service; North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper; and a California consumer who had bought into a program to start his own Internet business.
“The victims of these frauds are our neighbors – people who are trying to make an honest living, ” said David C. Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. “Under pressure to make ends meet, they risked their limited financial resources in response to the promise of a job, an income – a chance at a profitable home-based business. But these turned out to be empty promises – and the people who counted on them ended up with high levels of frustration and even higher levels of debt.”
The FTC has updated consumer education materials to help consumers avoid falling victim to these scams. Screen shots from the websites of some of the operators charged in this law enforcement sweep, as well as video footage of FTC Consumer Protection Director Vladeck and FTC attorney Daniel Hanks, are also available at ftc.gov/bizopps or youtube.com/FTCvideos.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/73082559/FHTM-named-in-FTC-investigation-of-illegal-companies
www.fhtmclassaction.info for all of the details
According to FHTM:
FHTM is no longer authorized to use the DuPont name, logo, or trademark in any way. FHTM should immediately discontinue the use of any materials containing the DuPont logo. Our right to use DuPont’s name, logo and trademark was revoked because FHTM abused the system by creating and distributing unapproved marketing materials that displayed the DuPont logo.
According to the real world:
How can this be true when the DuPont logo has been part of the FHTM corporate created business presentation DVD for years? The only reason they blame the reps for this is to shield themselves from a major trademark infringement lawsuit. FHTM never had a partnership or any relationship with DuPont, yet they took it upon themselves to represent they did in an effort to make themselves legal. Surprise…surprise.
Jkse, sooner or later regulators will also get tired of receiving thousands of complaints with consumers being mislead. Two States had to order a temp cease and desist and fined the company for misleading consumers and operating an alleged pyramid scheme. I now see that a class action lawsuit was issued by former reps, the whole lawsuit is online to read.
The thing about the loyal customer sales-pitch, is that sales-reps are the customer, with hardly any outside sales. With a high drop-out rate there is no loyalty in that. FHTM reps are not saving the companies they market for any advertising dollars, not when so many people leave the company. In fact I just found out that Jim Miles, former Sec of State for S.C., and his wife Betty Miles left FHTM. Many FHTM reps would use Jim Miles name to give some kind of credibility to the company. I'm guessing Jim and Betty didn't like what has happened over the past year, but that is my opinion.
And one last point: your comment "Dish Network, Verizon, DuPont, GE, etc...all choose to partner with FHTM"
I think you better re-read the cease and desist order from Montana about partnerships with FHTM and look at Exhibit B through Exhibit E as evidences. I love what GE had to say,
"Forutne Hi-Tech does not have a direct relationship with GE Security, Inc or GE. Fortune purchase GE Security products from Protect America. Protect America is a GE Security authorized dealer.
Thank you for bringing the inappropriate use of the GE trademark to our attention. We will contact FHTM and Protect America to address the issues."
Is FHTM a Get Rich Scam?
Fortune High-Tech Marketing (FHTM) happens to be a relationship marketing company that allows individuals to build their own business by marketing FHTM’s countless outstanding products and services. This company has allowed representatives to reach some of their financial goals. FHTM a not “get rich quick scam.” FHTM offers a wide variety of products and services that many families are already using or consuming. Members of FHTM are able to earn money when a friend, family member or acquaintance purchases a product or service through their FHTM business and when the representative gets others to join the program. There is not a partnership between the companies (that are included in the network) and FHTM but more of a working relationship. Here is an extensive list of companies included in FHTMs network:
• True Essentials
• Flying Basset Organics
• Trothop
• Dish Network
• Magazines.com
• World Tour
• Wireless Shop
• TCI LOng Distance
• Voice Connect
• Digital Landing
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
'Amway' and 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing' are the American Dream made Nightmare
I found this on another blog and thought I would share it here.
Here are two recent articles from 'USA Today' for your free-thinking readers.
http://www.usatoday.com/money/industries/retail/2011-02-07-multilevelmarketing03_CV_N.htm
http://www.usatoday.com/money/companies/2010-10-15-multilevelmarketing14_CV_N.htm
The criminogenic organization known as 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing' is an 'Amway' copy-cat. i.e. 'FHTM' is the reality-inverting label over the entrance to yet another self-perpetuating 'MLM business opportunity' cult. 'FHTM' was instigated, and is run, by a gang of exceedingly-greedy, but otherwise-mediocre, little raketeers from Kentucky. These narcissistic parasites have begun to grow rich by peddling an unoriginal lie whilst steadfastly pretending moral and intellectual authority.
In the adult world of quantifiable reality, the authenticity of the 'FHTM' lie is currently being challenged all over the USA, after the State of Montana charged that 'FHTM' was actually a dissimulated pyramid scheme. However, exactly like the billionaire bosses of the 'Amway' mob, the millionaire bosses of the 'FHTM' mob posed as innocent Christian businessmen/philanthropists under attack and instructed their aggressive echelon of attorneys to negotiate a 'settlement' with the plaintiffs. i.e. Without admitting any fault, they agreed to hand-over a significant chunk of their ill-gotten gains in Montana, in order to continue their clandestine criminal activities elsewhere.
It is common knowledge in the USA that 'FHTM' is a pernicious blame-the-victim scam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZxCK4adtuA . Indeed, it is common knowledge in the USA that all so-called 'Multi-Level Marketing' companies are shielding essentially the same, premeditated, closed-market swindle.
This general video warning has been recently produced by the Bureau of Consumer Protection at the US Federal Trade Commission http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoB2PKYbu4Q . However, it beggars belief that senior FTC officials like Eileen Harrington can use public funds to pretend that the FTC wants to protect the American people from 'MLM business opportunity' fraud, when, for decades, other senior FTC officials have allowed this cancer not only to gnaw its way into the USA, but also into the rest of the world.
Despite more than half a century of damning-evidence, senior US government trade officials prefer to remain blissfully-ignorant of the fact that behind so-called 'MLM' companies has lurked the ongoing historical phenomenon of criminogenic, or pernicious, cultism. Meanwhile, the self-appointed bosses of these reality-inverting, totalitarian groups continue to rake-in vast fortunes by peddling variations of the same Utopian fiction as fact.
'MLM business opportunity' fraud is undoubtedly a form of major organized crime spawned in the USA. It should never have been left to ill-informed, and/or corrupt, American regulators to deal with this internal threat to democracy and the rule of law.
'Amway' and 'FHTM' are the American Dream made Nightmare.
David Brear (copyright 2011)
It's an IQ test
How to Avoid MLM Scams
Tips on Avoiding MLM Scams
There are many reasons why individuals steer clear of multi-level marketing (MLM) companies. Most believe they will get scammed. Web sites such as Complaints Board include countless negative comments about MLM companies, specifically Fortune High-Tech Marketing (FHTM). Some people are skeptical to try network marketing because it’s a different way to do business. It’s not for everyone, but those who master it can make a decent living. However, there are scams out there that should be avoided.
If individuals are so worried that they will lose money by trying network marketing, they need to do a significant amount of research and educate themselves about the specific MLM business they are interested in. Listed below are 5 tips on how to avoid joining a MLM business that might be a scam.
1. Research! Research! Research! Find out if the company has a physical address for its headquarters. Get the names and email addresses of management. Use Google to do the work for you.
2. Read the company’s Web site carefully. Make sure there are real products and services offered. Some scams don’t have any type of product exchanged.
3. Understand how individuals make money at the company. Make sure that the company is not requiring you to purchase too much expensive office equipment. Make sure that the set up fee is not ridiculously high.
4. Get feedback about the specific MLM company from individuals who currently work there. Ask them the pros and cons of working for that company.
5. Make sure that you have an idea how much you can make working for a few months at the MLM company you are researching. Ask other representatives how long it took them to make enough money to make joining the MLM program worth their time.
If you would like to learn about Fortune High-Tech Marketing, go to: www.FHTM.net
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Barbara Bushe is really Joseph Isaacs or SKAPEGOAT in the flesh. He post under many different tags. His new release SKAPEGOAT deserves a 5 porcelain throne award with ONE power flush notation. Being released in paper back it allows the reader to recycle the pages already read as TP to complete the necessary paper work when taking an Isaacs. Its been eluded to that Dennis Rodman may play Isaacs in the movie adaptation.
Check this out RE: FHTM
http://youtu.be/ko0idFAx-A4
Courtesy of Corporate Frauds Watch
In 'MLM business opportunity' frauds, direct association with trusted brands has been a lie by Shyam
In a previous post, I drew your free-thinking readers' attention to some remarkable optical illusions which clearly demonstrate that the human mind can be easily deceived simply by changing the context in which we see things http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11553099 . A stalking-panther, when photographed in a jungle environment, is almost invisible to the human eye if shown only in black and white, but the same dangerous predator is immediately obvious to us when shown in color. Two squares of identical color and shade, appear to be of completely different color and shade when each one is surrounded by squares which alter the context in which our minds automatically see them.
No one now seriously disputes that deluded, core-'MLM' adherents look at 'MLM business opportunity' frauds only in two dimensions, 'positive' and 'negative.' A growing mountain of quantifiable evidence proves that vast numbers of ill-informed people have been deceived into entering this style of camouflaged totalitarian cult, then, on the pretext that 'the duplication of a step-by-step positive plan will lead to success, ' they have been intellectually-castrated (without their fully-informed consent) so that their minds will only accept what their leaders have arbitrarily defined as 'positive, ' and to exclude what these same charlatans have arbitrarily defined as 'negative.' When seen only in the fake 'positive' context of: 'Business', 'Independence', 'Financial Freedom', 'Direct Selling', 'Low Risk', 'Income Opportunity', etc. 'MLM business opportunity' frauds can appear to be authentic. This dangerous inversion of reality has been further confirmed by (apparently independent) : celebrity endorsements, glossy-advertizing, 'Direct Selling Associations', etc.; all of which form a pattern of ongoing, major, racketeering activity, because all these artificially-created, fake 'positive' contexts have actually been financed by the profits of fraud in order to continue to perpetrate the same fraud. It is only when you take 'MLM business opportunity' frauds out of their artificially-created, fake 'positive' contexts, that their true, predatory nature becomes immediately obvious.
One of the most-deceptive, fake 'positive' contexts in which 'MLM business opportunity' frauds have been presented is there apparent direct association with trusted brands. Currently, in the USA, the millionaire racketeers behind the 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing' lie are being challenged in court for having pretended direct association with some of America's most famous companies: including: General Electric, DuPont, Time, Verizon Wireless and AT&T, Travelocity, Peter Lamas and BSP Rewards Mall. For, according to documents presented in court, none of these companies has ever had a direct association with 'FHTM.' Furthermore, the officers of all these companies were actually unaware that their valuable brand-names and trademarks were being used by racketeers to commit fraud. The only connection that the 'FHTM' fake has had with all these authentic companies is that 'FHTM' has been a corporate customer of their products and services. Yet again, the use of this devious technique of psychological persuasion has been copied from the original 'MLM business opportunity' fraud, 'Amway.'
According to an 'FHTM' whistleblower, Joseph Isaacs: 'When these companies find out that their trademarks, names, logos and reputations are being used by FHTM in order to aide FHTM in proving its legitimacy they will issue a cease and desist order, insist on actions to stop or not allow FHTM to market their products'. Indeed, currently every one of the companies listed above has either issued a cease and desist order against 'FHTM, ' or no longer allows itself to be aligned with 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing.'
Again, according to Joseph Isaacs, 'FHTM leaders would systematically tell prospects during presentations that FHTM must be legal, because no iconic Fortune 100 company would affiliate with a scam' and that 'all of these major companies had sent their CEO’s and legal teams to meet with FHTM founder, Paul Orberson, to evaluate his MLM company.' Self-evidently these scripted-lies were part of an overall pattern of ongoing, major, racketeering activity.
David Brear (copyright 2011)
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Is FHTM a Scam?
Many people wonder if Fortune High Tech Marketing (FHTM) is a scam or not. IS Amway a scam? Is Mary Kay a scam? Well, these companies actually happen to be a relationship marketing companies that allows individuals to build their own business by marketing countless products and services. FHTM has allowed me (along with thousands of others) to reach financial goals. In no way is FHTM a “get rich quick scam.” I know a rep who had to personally invest a lot of time and energy at the convenience of his home office before he started to make over $3, 000 a month.His story is real and there is less mystery to his success than many people might realize. After he paid a set up fee (which is now $199) to get started at FHTM and a small fee for a Web site, he was equipped with many of the tools he needed to start his own business as a representative. This particular rep had to review his bills and make a few changes about which companies he bought products and services from.He told me that some people find it a little inconvenient to change their cell phone carrier or buy a different brand of shampoo. He was actually able to get back a percentage of his bills back when he bought from the companies in FHTM’s network. Anyway, after he got 10 points, or bought ten products or services each month (from the companies in FHTMs) network, he saw a return on my investment. The rep also saw a return on his investment when he got others to buy products and services from his virtual store. He said he would recommend this Web site for anyone who joins FHTM. It just makes the whole buying process a lot easier. There is potential for individuals to make extra money by working as a network marketor. They just need to realize that it involves alot of work. Those who have a gift for selling would most likely do well at FHTM.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Status updateon the real FHTM By Darla DiGrandi
For those of you that do not already know, I have left Fortune and moved to a new Network Marketing Company. Below are the reasons why.
Nearly 5 years ago a local business owner introduced me to a Network Marketing company. I saw a way to save & make some extra money on things I was already doing and using. I had no idea at the time where it would lead me and it ended up saving my life at that time from the recession.
It eventually retired me from the hair industry and taught me a new industry that I LOVE today! An industry that is based upon people
helping people where your success is measured by how many people on your team are making money and achieving their goals!
That is also when I met my Trainer Scott Aguilar, who said to me, “If you will trust me, I will help you buy your life back”. From there I
went on to make over $1 million dollars in that company and promoted to the top position in less than 2 years.
Facts & Numbers don’t lie, people do!
> Our first year in the business we ranked #25 in the USA and made over $300, 000 and had many people making over $5, 000 a month with a team of less than 3000 people.
> This past 2012 they combined the USA & Canada numbers together & we ranked #13 overall (#11 in USA), up 14 spots from our first year. But… listen closely when I tell you we made about $100, 000 LESS than our first year! And ONLY one person on our team of over 25, 000 people is currently making more than $5, 000 a month.
> We have been on the top 15 GLOBAL leader board 53 of the past 57 months. This proves we are producers in the company and not just lucky. We used to make $20-$40k a month and now its $8-$15k. And still on the top 15 GLOBAL leader board.
> We have consistently ranked higher each year, yet made less EACH year. If we had ranked lower in the top money earners and made less money, that would be a clear indication that most of the problem was us. But what does it tell you when our income goes down EACH year while our ranking goes up? That it’s not us, it’s the “system”!
> The norm for nationwide weekly presentation meetings used to be 100-300 people in attendance and monthly trainings with 500-1000, prompting Training Centers to open across the country to handle all the growth. Now weekly meetings are a dozen at best and there are not even meetings in some of those locations and Training Centers are being shut down.
> My first full year there was approx 5, 000 people at the annual convention for which I was the emcee. This past year I was also one of the emcees and there was approx 2, 500 in attendance (half the size).
> Many leaders are making their lowest pay in their careers and cant even make their FREE BMW payment. Having 70 Executives in my down line, I am able to see their numbers and it breaks my heart to see that NONE of those 70 ESMs are doubling their E code! These are good hard working people struggling with the “What am I doing wrong” syndrome.
> Not to mention how many Pres Ambassadors, Platinum’s and Nationals are making less than $5, 000 per month and having to go back to getting jobs to pay their bills. These are good people that know how to build a team. Once again it’s not them, it’s the “system”.
> I am one of the hardest working people in this company and probably in the industry. If I can’t help good, hard working people make money, then it’s time to take a step back and look at the “Big Picture”.
After YEARS of CONSTANT compensation plan changes and product & service changes, this is not the same company I joined nearly 5 years ago. Leaving our company is not something we wanted to do. It was something that as a leader, we need to do. Leaders are responsible for taking people towards their WHY, not away from it. We did not take this decision lightly. It was a grueling decision. But we could no longer sit back and ignore “the writing on the walls”.
When I started, I didn’t even know the name of the company. I trusted in a person that I met named Scott Aguilar. I had a WHY. It was to set my family free and get out of debt and it was his role to help me get there.
Before we made this decision, we took time to reflect on all the above facts, did a lot of research, took our concerns directly to the founder, prayed for vision and direction, asked a lot of questions to Industry leaders and ALSO to people who have previously left our company that are having tremendous success in other companies.
We chose our new company based on the 4 balances of business: The Company, The System, The Support & The Product.
In closing I leave you with this thought: You’re on a cross-country journey with your loved ones trying to get to your goals and dreams. One of your tires has a hole in it and you have to keep stopping to put Fix-A-Flat in it every few miles. Praying everyday you don’t get a blow out and that you make it a little further till the next stop. Fix A Flat can only go so far and last so long!
Wouldn’t it make more sense to stop the constant stress n struggle and change the tire?
This letter is being released to address the rumors and lies that are being spread by those at the VERY top of the corporate company and the PA and PSM at the top of the west coast. The company plans to “recode” my former team to this PA and PSM. Another Fix-A-Flat attempt. The objective from the tops is to make Scott & I look greedy and lazy and to make our new comp plan look bad.
I am proud to be a Network Marketer! I will stay in this Industry because it is the only industry that allows me to lead an army to their
dreams! We are EXCITED about the future and getting back to our goal of helping people achieve their goals.
Take time to research and reflect back on the facts in your business. Don’t listen to hear say or rumors. Ask to see proof of current income from people at the top or that are trying to recode you. Call me if you have any questions [protected] and if you want me to keep it confidential, I will!
FHTM is a scam 100% they use big numbers in earnings to get you in stating that you spend the same on your cell phone and cable tv and vitimins and othwe household items and dont get any return . All of the people who were supposed to be making from $50, 000.00 per to $250.000.00 per month dont seem to be out publicly braging now maybe because it qwas all a lie, or extremely over quoted.
FHTM makes it onto the FTC list of rip-offs. Looks like this company is about to implode
FTC Steps Up Efforts Against Scams That Target Financially-Strapped Consumers
More Than 90 Actions Brought By Commission and Its Law Enforcement Partners
The Federal Trade Commission today stepped up its ongoing campaign against scammers who falsely promise guaranteed jobs and opportunities to “be your own boss” to consumers who are struggling with unemployment and diminished incomes as a consequence of the economic downturn.
“Operation Empty Promises, ” a multi-agency law enforcement initiative today announced more than 90 enforcement actions, including three new FTC cases and developments in seven other matters, 48 criminal actions by the Department of Justice (many of which involved the assistance of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service), seven additional civil actions by the Postal Inspection Service, and 28 actions by state law enforcement agencies in Alaska, California, Indiana, Kansas, Maryland, Montana, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Washington, and the District of Columbia.
In a press conference at the FTC, David Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, was joined by Tony West, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division of the Department of Justice; Greg Campbell, Deputy Chief Inspector of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service; North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper; and a California consumer who had bought into a program to start his own Internet business.
“The victims of these frauds are our neighbors – people who are trying to make an honest living, ” said David C. Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. “Under pressure to make ends meet, they risked their limited financial resources in response to the promise of a job, an income – a chance at a profitable home-based business. But these turned out to be empty promises – and the people who counted on them ended up with high levels of frustration and even higher levels of debt.”
The FTC has updated consumer education materials to help consumers avoid falling victim to these scams. Screen shots from the websites of some of the operators charged in this law enforcement sweep, as well as video footage of FTC Consumer Protection Director Vladeck and FTC attorney Daniel Hanks, are also available at ftc.gov/bizopps or youtube.com/FTCvideos.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/73082559/FHTM-named-in-FTC-investigation-of-illegal-companies
www.fhtmclassaction.info for all of the details
Seeking Canadian feedback
I am considering becoming a FHTM rep and am doing my due dilligence on the company and have read the comments on the site. Is there anyone who is working this business in Toronto or Ontario in General that can provide some objective comments on their experince as a rep.
I would love to have some feedback form you.
I am NOT biased by the Stigma associated with MLM in society as a whole, i just want to hear from people that are doing the business in the area i indicated above. Dream stealer,
@JonnieYen
You cannot be using GE, Dupont and Walmart and associating them with FHTM.
They have made it clear they do not want to be associated with them.
http://www.fhtmclassaction.info/An%20URGENT%20Message%20from%20FHTM%20Compliance.pdf
Here is the link if you don't believe me.
FHTM named as a company under investigation as part of the Nationwide Joint Investigation between FTC and Attorneys General known as "Operation Empty Promises"
Fortune Hi-Tech: American dream or pyramid scheme?
By Jayne O'Donnell, USA TODAY
LEXINGTON, Ky. — Marie Richardson of Daytona Beach, Fla., has never been as excited about a business opportunity as she is about her new work for Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing. In her first week and a half as an independent sales representative this summer, she earned $800 in bonuses for recruiting four customers who agreed to pay a fee to become salespeople and buy or sell products.
Kimberly Asper of Missoula, Mont., however, says she sometimes has to feed her family cereal or ramen noodles for dinner since she was laid off from a job and spent thousands trying to build a business through Fortune. She soon realized it was all about "signing people up."
Richardson was one of several thousand salespeople who gathered here last month for a Fortune conference to learn how to recruit people and sell products including cell phone service and private-label vitamins for the company, which Fortune's top money earner, Ruel Morton, calls "the most lucrative financial opportunity in the history of the country." Asper, meanwhile, was one of the Montanans whose complaints led to a lawsuit filed by the state securities commissioner and settlement that required Fortune to tell current and new representatives that no compensation will be paid for recruitment. Fortune paid $1 million to settle the charges, including $840, 000 to reimburse Montanans, but did not admit wrongdoing.
Multilevel or "network" marketing pays commissions to salespeople for the products they sell, on products sold by others they recruit, and often bonuses when their teams reach a certain level of sales. The Direct Selling Association, which represents companies that have multilevel compensation plans, estimates there were about 16.1 million of these "direct" salespeople in the U.S. last year, up from 15.1 million in 2008, thanks to high unemployment and the need for many to supplement incomes. Avon, Amway and Mary Kay Cosmetics are among the largest companies in multilevel marketing, but there are hundreds of lesser-known businesses that sell everything from jewelry to cell phone service.
Critics of Fortune, including the Montana Commissioner of Securities and the plaintiffs in a new lawsuit seeking class-action status, say Fortune is a "pyramid scheme" because salespeople are primarily paid for recruiting, not product sales, and more recent recruits can't earn anything close to what the early entrants do. Fortune has until Nov. 2 to respond to the lawsuit seeking class-action status.
"Presidential ambassadors" such as Morton average $1, 240, 992 in income a year, yet make up just 0.07% of the company's representatives, according to a financial disclosure Fortune filed as part of its April settlement with Montana. The statement also shows 30% of Fortune representatives make nothing, and 54% of those with earnings average just $93 a month, before costs. More than 99% of those who make money earn less than $31, 524 a year.
In a written response to questions, Fortune CEO Tom Mills stressed its independent salespeople's "success depends upon and requires successful sales efforts, hard work, leadership and teamwork." There's a big difference in what people make, because some people only work part time, he says.
To afford big payouts at the upper levels, former Fortune regional sales manager Joseph Isaacs says the company targets desperate unemployed people, Hispanic immigrants and others who are struggling to make ends meet. Joanne McMahon, a national sales manager speaking at a training session USA TODAY attended here, said it is the people who can't afford the fee to join Fortune who need the company the most.
"I heard testimony of people who had become millionaires in a matter of months, " says Asper, 38, who once earned $100, 000 a year in retail management. "They led us to believe we'd be one of those people."
The reward for recruitment
Fortune documents show its sales reps are paid $100 to $480 for recruiting customers who pay fees to become representatives and buy or sell a small number of products. They receive commissions of up to 1% — or less than $1 on a $100-a-month cell phone bill — on products and services, which they are often encouraged to buy for themselves or give away. Former sales managers including Isaacs and Yvonne Day, a plaintiff in the lawsuit seeking class-action status, say their product commission checks were often less than $20, while income from bonuses totaled several thousand dollars. A lawsuit filed by Isaacs alleges 82% of 100, 000 Fortune representatives last year "failed to earn a single residual commission over $20 despite making personal purchases."
The company says it has about 104, 000 salespeople and has customers in every state, Canada, Puerto Rico and the United Kingdom. Mills says because its salespeople are "independent, " they aren't required to notify the company when they have meetings. But there were still recruitment meetings in 12 states including New York, Virginia and Alabama being publicized by Fortune on its website this week.
Fortune and its independent representatives also regularly promote the turnaround stories of its top earners in videotaped meetings, the conference here, a book written by its president and in interviews in Success From Home magazine. Matt Morse of Arkansas told the magazine his first child had hand-me-downs, but that after he joined Fortune he became debt free, got new things for his second child and started going to a country club twice a week and Disney World three times a year. Anna Chorost of Oklahoma said that since she joined Fortune, she and her husband have flown to California "simply because we wanted a nice glass of wine." Companies that are featured on the cover of Success From Home agree to buy at least $330, 000 worth of issues, according to a description of the prerequisites obtained by USA TODAY.
Fortune president defends company
The Federal Trade Commission considers a company a pyramid scheme even if it has products for sale if it's clear during recruitment that "the real way to make money isn't by selling that product but by recruiting other people to pay money for the right to sell that product, " says Monica Vaca, assistant director for the FTC's division of marketing practices.
The FTC Act also prohibits "deceptive and misleading practices, " which may include claims about what people make that don't make "clear if it's not typical of what everyone who joins is making, " Vaca says.
In an interview at the conference, Fortune founder and President Paul Orberson defended his company against the charges it is a pyramid scheme: "If it were illegal, I wouldn't be standing here."
As with laws enforced by the FTC, at least 46 states also ban the payment of money to reward the act of recruiting another participant, says Gerald Nehra, a multilevel marketing defense attorney who headed Amway's legal division from 1982 to 1991.
Nehra says he advises his clients that "80% or more of money that moves around the enterprise should be directly related to sales of products or services." Nehra would not comment on any particular company.
Diane Graber, a former executive sales manager from Montana who is a supporter of Fortune, acknowledges that "if you were not recruiting, your business was dying." The checks from product sales were "not good enough to live on, " says Graber, who was a defendant in the Montana lawsuit.
"All compensation is based on sales, and sales alone, " Mills said in his written response. "There is never any compensation for recruiting, only for the acquisition and retention of customers."
"Customer acquisition bonuses, " he says, "reward the (independent representatives) for acquiring new customers."
Qualifying for bonuses
Fortune only pays these customer-acquisition bonuses to those who bring in people who pay the $99 fee to join and agree to buy or sell some products or services. Once that new representative makes enough sales to get five "customer points, " they are qualified to get bonuses themselves for bringing in others.
A customer, Nehra says, is a person who "has no expectation of making money and just receives the product or service for the value paid." They don't provide Social Security numbers or taxpayer ID numbers and sign independent contractor agreements, he says.
Most recurring purchases — such as cell phone service, satellite TV or regular deliveries of vitamins — count for one or two points. A "First Day Packet, " distributed to new Fortune salespeople as recently as last June, says three customer points could be easily obtained by the new salesperson by paying a monthly fee to have a Fortune website and a travel website. The packet noted that the "goal" is to have 10 points with at least two or four points representing sales to another person.
Mills says the company didn't produce or endorse the packet, but a similar suggestion is made by Fortune presidential ambassador Todd Rowland in a videotaped presentation viewed by USA TODAY and sold by Fortune last year. Rowland noted the Fortune website is the first point and that new recruits could buy nutritional or beauty products or switch their family's cell phone service and TV to satellite service offered by Fortune to earn their points, as his family did.
Former managers, including Asper, Isaacs and Day, all say they were encouraged to become customers themselves.
"You could sell the products to others, but nobody ever does that, " says Isaacs, who is being sued by Fortune for trademark infringement and filed a counterclaim calling Fortune an "unlawful pyramid scheme." "In reality, it isn't taught that way. All new managers buy their first three, five or 10 points to immediately qualify their business."
Kevin Mullens, a Pentecostal preacher and Fortune national sales manager in Crawfordville, Fla., used the Bible in a videotaped presentation last fall to emphasize why the downtrodden need a plan that includes Fortune: "The Scripture says without a vision, people perish."
Fortune, he said, is "a ministry that can produce whatever it is that you need."
State officials step in
Some government officials aren't so sure. What states are doing:
•Montana Commissioner of Securities Monica Lindeen says she was pitched to join Fortune by her brother. He recruited her mother and other family members before she learned her office was investigating. She called Fortune a "pyramid scheme" when she filed suit against the company in March. Along with prohibiting Fortune from paying people for recruiting and insisting that bonuses only be based on product sales outside the home, Montana's consent agreement requires Fortune to lower its entry fee from $299 at the time to $75 and to give every representative a "disclosure document" that explains how long it takes to earn different levels of income. All of Lindeen's family members have left Fortune.
•The Texas Attorney General's office sent Fortune a "civil investigative demand" letter on Aug. 26. The letter asked for the names of all state residents enrolled in Fortune, how much they paid to get in and got in return, along with the gross product sales in the state. The letter also asks the names and earnings of the highest-ranking managers of the company, who is below them on their teams and how much comes from direct product sales as opposed to "commissions, bonuses or sales by others." Jerry Strickland, a spokesman for Texas Attorney General Greg Abbott, says the office is reviewing Fortune's response, and the "investigation is ongoing."
•Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway's office is also investigating, according to former Fortune managers Day and Isaacs, who have been interviewed. The office doesn't confirm or deny investigations and wouldn't comment about Fortune. In an interview, however, Conway said it could violate the state's anti-pyramid scheme law if product sales alone couldn't "sustain the people at the lower end of the chain." And it could be considered an "unconscionable act" under the state's consumer protection law to not disclose how unlikely it is for new salespeople to make anything close to what more senior managers do.
•North Dakota Attorney General Wayne Stenehjem issued a cease-and-desist order last December against Fortune for violations of several state laws. Fortune agreed to pay a $12, 500 fine and to voluntarily comply with state laws. But Stenehjem said the state's consumer protection division would continue to investigate whether Fortune violates the state's anti-pyramid, consumer fraud and home-solicitation laws.
•North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper's office has received "a number of complaints" about Fortune, and the consumer protection division launched an investigation, according to spokeswoman Noelle Talley.
•At least four other states — Missouri, South Carolina, Illinois and Florida — have followed up on complaints from disgruntled former Fortune representatives.
Non-English speakers vulnerable
Some say Fortune goes too far in targeting vulnerable Hispanics who aren't fluent in English. Ilse Bustamante, a printing company executive from Deland, Fla., filed a complaint with her state after a friend tried to strong-arm her into joining Fortune because of her Latin connections. She says Fortune is determined to tap into the growing Hispanic market to fuel its own growth and targets bilingual people like her to lure non-English-speakers.
"The way they (Fortune) present this info is misleading, and with them not knowing English that well, they're going to fall for it, " Bustamante says.
Mary Jude Ramirez, whose son-in-law left Fortune because of the high monthly fees, agrees. "These are people who really have an American dream, " Ramirez says. "The Fortune people tell them they only need a great desire to get ahead, and if they spread the word of this program, riches will pour into their lap."
A central part of the Fortune pitch, as heard at the conference here and explained by several former managers, is that it's easy to recruit other managers because the brands and products it sells are ones almost everyone already needs and uses. But nearly all of the household names, including Travelocity, Citibank, Allstate and Home Depot, that the company listed on its website as recently as this summer are no longer named.
Currently, Fortune representatives can sell satellite TV through Dish Network. Although it had a large display at the conference, Dish downplayed its relationship with Fortune and told Montana officials that it didn't have a partnership with Fortune, which it called a "third-party independent contractor, " according to the Montana cease-and-desist order against Fortune. Dish didn't reply to a request for comment.
Fortune representatives can also sell cellphone service for most major carriers through a company called The Wireless Shop, which is owned by Reston, Va.-based Simplexity. Other products include Fortune's private-label vitamin line, True Essentials, private-label skin-care products, online music downloads, roadside assistance and home-security systems.
Fortune often notes that its commissions are up to 25%, but those who choose that route forfeit the "customer points" necessary to advance in the company and receive bonuses in bringing in other salespeople who are also customers. And the larger commissions are only available on its private-label products.
Fortune lowers fees after complaints
Fortune has been changing its national policies, including lowering the entrance fee outside Montana from $299 to $199 to $99 in the last four months — following complaints and legal charges. In a taped conference call with his team members on Sept. 29, Morton said the company would no longer pay recruitment bonuses until managers have 12 people on their teams, which places them at the regional sales manager level. To have 12 people on a team, a person has to recruit three people who recruit three people who get three more people who bring in another three. USA TODAY listened to the call.
Commissions on products were also increased from 0.25% to either 0.50% or 1%, which would boost residuals from product sales but still make Fortune's product commissions extremely low compared with other companies using multilevel compensation plans. Nehra says even 25% commissions would be low in multilevel marketing, as many companies pay up to 45% commissions because they sell such high-margin products. Kenyon Meyer, the attorney who filed the lawsuit seeking class-action status, says such a small change doesn't change the legality as it's still far more lucrative to recruit. "If you create a system where recruitment is rewarded more than the sale of products, what is a rational person going to do?" says Meyer, whose law firm has represented subsidiaries of Gannett, the parent company of USA TODAY.
Lou Abbott, an advocate of multilevel marketing and founder of the website MLM-thewholetruth.com, says he believes Fortune is in "a gray area and always has been."
"For a company to stand legal scrutiny, distributors cannot in any way, shape or form be compensated for recruiting other distributors, " Abbott says. The lawsuit seeking class-action status is asking the court to force Fortune to pay back the money that representatives paid the company and to stop Fortune from operating as an "illegal pyramid scheme."
Richardson, who has a kettle corn business at a flea market and sells real estate, found the story of a former dishwasher in Mexico who is now a presidential ambassador was compelling at the conference. She's also motivated by the Lexus vehicle Fortune is now making payments on for the person who recruited her. Fortune agrees to make payments on certain luxury vehicles when representatives reach the executive sales manager level — which means they have 90 people on their teams — as long as they remain at that level.
"That's my goal, " Richardson says.
Kimberly Asper and her husband were both laid off more than a year ago and lost their home in a foreclosure this summer. She's now working up to 10 hours a week for minimum wage in a coffee shop. She estimates she spent about $5, 000 to join Fortune, buy products, hold meetings and pay for travel to Fortune conferences. "The people in the company who are higher up keep benefiting from people who are struggling to be at the same level, " Asper says.
When Asper met Orberson at a Canadian conference, however, she says he told her it didn't have to be that way: "He wanted to know why I wasn't on stage, and when was I going to be his next millionaire."
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I am surprised that your comment was not answered. You have one person who wants to know if you already joined and another BARBARA who is regurgitating a bunch of legal BS. I am a successful rep in vancouver and if you message me I will give you the name of a successful rep in Toronto. If Fortune was a pyramid then 1. It wouldn't have lasted 10 years! and 2. HUGE companies like GE, Dupont and Walmart wouldn't want to be associated at all with fortune. There are a lot of negative opinions out there on the net but they are only opinions, not facts. If I was a college professor and someone handed in a term paper and cited google as their source, I would definately fail them! LOL
A class action lawsuit was filed against Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM), its officers, directors, Presidential Ambassadors and all National Sales Managers claiming fraud, pyramid scheme and RICO violations in the Eastern District of the Federal Courts on September 2, 2010
Defendants listed in the lawsuit include:
Paul C. Orberson, Jeff Orberson, Thomas A. Mills, David Mills, Billy Stahl, Simon Davies, Ruel Morton, Todd Rowland, Ashley Rowland, Todd & Ashley, Inc., Mike Misenheimer, Steve Jordan, Joel McNinch, Chris Doyle, Ken Brown, Jerry Brown, Bob Decant, Joanne McMahon, Terry Walker, Sandi Walker, Sherri Winter, Trey Knight, Kevin Mullins, Scott Aguilar, Molly Aguilar, Nathan Kirby, Dwayne Brown, Aaron Decker, Susan Frank, Ramiro Armenta, Angelina Armenta, Alexis Adame, Teresa Adame, Darla DiGrandi, Matt Morse, Matt Barrett and Roberto Rivera
This is an action by plaintiffs on behalf of themselves and those similarly situated to recover damages caused by the defendants' operation of an inherently fraudulent pyramid scheme. The pyramid scheme is fraudulent because it requires the payment by participants of money to defendant Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing, Inc. ("Fortune"), in return for which participants receive (1) the right to sell products and (2) the right to receive in return for recruiting other participants into the program rewards which are unrelated to sale of the product to ultimate users.
This action is brought on behalf of a national class of persons who serve or have served as independent representatives for Fortune, pursuant to the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, 18 U.S.C. § [protected] ("RICO"), the Kentucky Consumer Protection Act, KRS Chapter 367, and the laws of Kentucky.
Under the Compensation Plan utilized by Fortune until at least July 1, 2010, IRs are able to earn compensation from two sources: (1) bonuses for recruiting and sponsoring new representatives; and (2) commissions from sales of products and services by themselves and by recruits in their "downline.
Fortune operates as an illegal pyramid scheme because this compensation plan affords IRs the right to receive in return for recruiting other participants into Fortune rewards which are unrelated to the sale of products or services to ultimate users outside of Fortune. Fortune's compensation plan involves an elaborate set of bonuses which are effectively the only way to earn money in Fortune and which are all tied not to real sales to outside customers, but rather to recruitment of new IRs.
To perpetuate the fraudulent pyramid scheme described above, Fortune claims to have special relationships with or to be a "partner" of several large major national companies whose products and services Fortune offers. These companies include, but are not limited to, AT&T, Verizon Wireless, Sprint, Dish Networks, General Electric Security ("GE Security"), DuPont and Home Depot. Fortune has used the trademarks of these and other companies in marketing materials and business presentations in order to convince prospective customers that Fortune is a legal business. In reality, Fortune does not have any sort of special relationship with these companies. Fortune is not a "partner" with Dish Networks. Rather it is a third-party independent contractor authorized to sell Dish Networks service. There are numerous other such third-party vendors of Dish Network.
All of the defendants in this action collectively form an "enterprise" under RICO, 18 U.S.C. § 1962, in that they are a group of individuals and entities associated in fact, although not a legal entity.
The defendants' promotion of an illegal pyramid scheme is a per se scheme to defraud under the mail and wire fraud statutes; thus, the defendants have committed racketeering acts by promoting an illegal pyramid scheme by using and causing others to use the mail and by transmitting and causing others to transmit, by means of wire in interstate commerce, writing, signs, signals, pictures and sounds, all in furtherance of and for purposes of executing a scheme or artifice to defraud, namely an illegal pyramid scheme.
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rbv..have you already sign up with fhtm ?
SCAM or NOT
No, FHTM does not fit the traditional definition of a pyramid scheme. Real products and services are being sold to consumers through the network of Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing representatives. These products and services include cell phone plans, internet telephone service plans, nutritional supplements and travel discounts. However, since reps are...
Read full review of FHTM and 6 commentsSCAM CHEATERS
Oh you are so wrong! Sponsors switched some info around and it put the people who should have been in my reg business and put them on my managers side so when I had 200 people sign up in two months, yes the stole over $40, 000 from me in pay. Not only do we have the forged documents, we also have them on tape. The company knows about this and choose to do nothing and for this I will fight them to the end. Funny how all of the truths about them are coming out and people are seeing the real criminals who are taking the dreams of hundreds of thousands and crushing them. Had they chosen to do what is right I would have followed them through thick and thin. But when you have witnesses and a tape recording to this, and loving the way it has caused pain and laughing that they got away with it...I have the goods to take them down.
You have no idea how many people have contacted me about people stealing their trainings and other mishandling of things they have experienced. The best thing FHTM could have done was to have made this right and in the end settled with everyone who was cheated, so since they have not they will continue to pay the price.
FHTM IS GOING TO HELL
BREAKING NEWS!
Fortune caught in lie that they were debt free!
Everyone has been lied tooo! FHTM used the entire companies assets as collateral and put all reps into a bad position to be the perpetuators of the lie!
www.fhtmclassaction.info
to see all of the court documents
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Courtesy of David at Corporate Frauds watch:
The owners of this scam continue to take advantage of 1000’s of new victims weekly by convincing them into joining as they reap the benefits of a purported $500Million dollar nationwide criminal enterprise. 2010 started off with the Attorney General of North Dakota issuing a cease and desist for operating a business in that state without the proper licensing. That was followed by the Montana Securities Commissioner, Monica Lindeen also shutting them down, but this time, it was for operating as an illegal endless recruiting pyramid scheme.
The company was forced to change their business practices (in an attempt to make their business appear to be legal. Can you do that if you were already legal or is that an oxymoron), charge only $75.00 entrance fee (from the then current $299.00) to new Montanans who wished to explore the American Dream through FHTM and refund almost $1, 000, 000 to the good folks of that state who made no money and wanted a refund of monies paid.
FHTM was also forced to produce (one time only) an income disclosure statement (“IDS”) which according to industry expert, Robert FitzPatrick who is the President of Pyramid Scheme Alert, is so skewed that it isn’t worth the paper it is written on because the figures do not include the almost 30% who did not make even a dime in this business opportunity. Looking at the numbers produced by FHTM itself, over 90% fail.
In talking to FHTM reps, they insist on telling the story that every business is a Pyramid and so is the government. What they fail to differentiate is what is a legal and an illegal pyramid scheme. They go on to explain that 95% of all businesses in America fail and the team they have an opportunity to build in FHTM will produce a lifetime of residual income. FHTM claims that building the Fortune opportunity is a willable, trustable and saleable enterprise, but that is false. They have coined the phrase, “Loyal Customer”. In fact, the reality is that when reps drop out of this business (and 90% or better will do so within 6 months) all of those “loyal customers” are gone along with the residual income. Most sales of products and services are to the IR’s that have paid for the right to be part of this business opportunity.
Existing IR’s saw multiple compensation changes that were sold to them as a message from God and as “another pay raise” yet it was merely a way to screw more at the bottom of this pyramid and enrich those that were hand-picked by the self proclaimed King of MLM, Paul Orberson.
In fact there were more than a half dozen compensation changes that occurred in 2010 which somehow parallels the ½ dozen state Attorneys General (IL, TX, SC, NC, CA, KY, ND and MT) that began active investigations into this alleged pyramid scheme. FHTM had an “F” rating with the KY BBB until November/December 2010, when top leaders in the organization posted bulletins asking for their IR’s to report FHTM as a model company which assisted in raising the current rating to a “C”. What a sham that system is. Self rating goes against the grain of having the BBB in the first place.
Like the bosses, and reality-inverting propagandists, of the 'Amway' mob, the bosses, and reality-inverting propagandists, of the 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing' mob have steadfastly pretended that: Their direct selling company is perfectly lawful and is associated with all manner of trusted household-names in the USA. They cannot be held responsible if some rogue 'Independent FHTM Business Owners' do not obey the company's own rules which oblige them regularly to sell significant quantities of good-value products, and services, to the public for a profit.
At the same time, numerous dissidents, testify that the 'FHTM' plan for financial freedom is, in point of fact, a dissimulated closed-market swindle, in which unlawful internal payments (in exchange for effectively-unsalable wampum) have been arbitrarily defined as lawful external 'sales.' In this way, tens of thousands of 'FHTM' adherents continue to be deceived into handing over regular cash-payments to a counterfeit 'direct selling company' controlled by a little gang of sanctimonious racketeers, on the pretext that anyone can retire from work by being their own loyal 'FHTM ' customer and by recruiting their friends and relations to be their own loyal customers, etc. ad infinitum.
Fortune Hi-Tech has lied about everything in their business presentations since day one including statements about being debt-free, its D&B rating and its business relationships/partnerships with real fortune 100 companies to cover up their illegal ways and to produce the aura that they are some way legal because of these affiliations (Legal by Association). Since 2010 major companies like GE, DuPont, AT&T, Verizon Wireless, Travelocity, Home Depot and Peter Lamas have either run from these relationships or claimed they never existed in the first place including the their demand that FHTM discontinue the unauthorized use of their coveted logos, trademarks and names in presentations and printed materials. Fortune thought it was ok to use the logos of major international enterprises to enhance their own image in order to appear as if they were legal when in fact their entire enterprise is built on misrepresentations. They attempted to tie themselves to Fortune Magazine until ex-representatives revealed the truth, henceforth the recent (end of 2010) disclaimer on the bottom of the FHTM corporate website that now states “FHTM is not sponsored by, endorsed by, affiliated with, or otherwise associated with, Time Inc. or Fortune Magazine. For years this company has used the names of famous people to provide evidence of legitimacy, all which were lies http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyGaQfDP--c&feature=related
The nightmare for representatives deepened as FHTM was about to hold its national convention in Lexington, Kentucky in September 2010. On the eve of the convention USA Today appeared there to interview IR’s and attend its presentations. It was the same day that Fortune, its officers and 40 top distributors were served with its first of two class action lawsuits claiming mail and wire fraud, RICO violations, pyramid scheme and money laundering.
The FHTM outside legal team got an early Christmas present with the filing of the 2nd class-action lawsuit in the Southern District of California on December 22, 2010. This lawsuit mirrors, in many ways, the one originally filed in Kentucky in early September with the addition of multiple violations of California consumer protection laws. The California judge recently sent that case to combine with the Kentucky one.
FHTM has only succeeded in recent years because of the recession and the fact that its top reps in 2004 brought their teams from the defunct Excel Communications (Another MLM that operated in the gray area of the law until it went bankrupt). They were hand-picked by Paul Orberson to be the top reps in FHTM, paid to bring their teams, given large cash bonuses and a back door deal which included a piece of the pie (equity). They are referred to as the “Fab 6” by Paul Orberson. This enterprise will always remain private to hide these side deals and the money made by its founders.
How can representatives in 2011 continue to tout this as the best marketing plan and business opportunity ever when the founders have been caught in so many lies, changed the compensation plan to further enrich those at the top, have such a huge 95%+ failure rate, are being sued in Federal court by ex-reps as well as ex-vendors and have multiple states investigating their illegal ways?
They buy magazine covers, give to charity and self published their own autobiography in an effort to prove legitimacy. Some reps even claim that they are approved to do business in all 50 states. That is far from the truth as no State ever approves or disapproves the business plan of any business.
In 2010 Fortune made a decision to solicit the Latino markets throughout the USA and recruit by promising green cards. They don’t care whether the Latino immigrants are legal or not. Anyone can join FHTM if they pay the fees. If you are an illegal immigrant, an unemployed truck driver or just a fool – this business is for you. If you don’t mind operating an enterprise that never can be willed, sold or profitable - this business is for you. If you don’t mind screwing your friends and family to get into a business with you that you know they will lose money in – this business is for you. If you don’t mind buying or selling overpriced goods and services – this business is for you. If you have the ability to tell folks this is your destiny per God’s word – this business is for you. If you are a great liar – this business is for you.
Most of the revenues created by FHTM reps are made by recruiting others into this Ponzi scheme and not from the residual income as they claim. 80% or better sales are to the reps themselves so they can qualify their business in order to get paid bonuses for bringing in others. This violates the FTC rules and the laws in almost 50 states.
In 2011 FHTM was added to the joint investigation by the FTC and individual state AG’s “Operation Empty Promises”. It was recently discovered that many representatives at the Executive and National level are pocking huge sums of cash from presentations and meeting and skirting their obligations to the IRS. This is not only promoted by but is also endorsed by Paul Orberson – the self proclaimed highest paid network marketer of all times.
FHTM makes it onto the FTC list of rip-offs. Looks like this company is about to implode
FTC Steps Up Efforts Against Scams That Target Financially-Strapped Consumers
More Than 90 Actions Brought By Commission and Its Law Enforcement Partners
The Federal Trade Commission today stepped up its ongoing campaign against scammers who falsely promise guaranteed jobs and opportunities to “be your own boss” to consumers who are struggling with unemployment and diminished incomes as a consequence of the economic downturn.
“Operation Empty Promises, ” a multi-agency law enforcement initiative today announced more than 90 enforcement actions, including three new FTC cases and developments in seven other matters, 48 criminal actions by the Department of Justice (many of which involved the assistance of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service), seven additional civil actions by the Postal Inspection Service, and 28 actions by state law enforcement agencies in Alaska, California, Indiana, Kansas, Maryland, Montana, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Washington, and the District of Columbia.
In a press conference at the FTC, David Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, was joined by Tony West, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division of the Department of Justice; Greg Campbell, Deputy Chief Inspector of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service; North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper; and a California consumer who had bought into a program to start his own Internet business.
“The victims of these frauds are our neighbors – people who are trying to make an honest living, ” said David C. Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. “Under pressure to make ends meet, they risked their limited financial resources in response to the promise of a job, an income – a chance at a profitable home-based business. But these turned out to be empty promises – and the people who counted on them ended up with high levels of frustration and even higher levels of debt.”
The FTC has updated consumer education materials to help consumers avoid falling victim to these scams. Screen shots from the websites of some of the operators charged in this law enforcement sweep, as well as video footage of FTC Consumer Protection Director Vladeck and FTC attorney Daniel Hanks, are also available at ftc.gov/bizopps or youtube.com/FTCvideos.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/73082559/FHTM-named-in-FTC-investigation-of-illegal-companies
www.fhtmclassaction.info for all of the details
to: csampson
Don't fabricate crap like this the BBB does not have this on their web site you are making this up! FHTM is a scam!
If you go to the BBB Web site, you will also see how many conflicts FHTM has been able to resolve. FHTM reps clearly make an effort to resolve differences. There are alot more complaints on this Web site about FHTM than listed in the BBB web site because the BBB only takes legit claims. The following information came from the BBB Web site:
Complaints Concerned:
Selling Practices (19 complaints)
10 Resolved
3 Delayed Resolution
5 Company made every reasonable effort to resolve
1 The parties could not provide sufficient information to support their positions nor agreeable to make reasonable efforts toward resolving the issue of the dispute
Advertising Issues (3 complaints)
1 Resolved
2 Company made every reasonable effort to resolve
Service Issues (4 complaints)
2 Resolved
2 Company made every reasonable effort to resolve
Credit or Billing Disputes (4 complaints)
4 Resolved
Delivery Issues (1 complaints)
1 Resolved
Refund Practices (17 complaints)
15 Resolved
1 Delayed Resolution
1 Company made every reasonable effort to resolve
Product Quality (1 complaints)
1 Resolved
Contract Disputes (2 complaints)
1 Resolved
1 Company made every reasonable effort to resolve
Guarantee or Warranty Issues (2 complaints)
2 Resolved
Whistleblower fights back after frivolous suit by FHTM for exposing their ILLEGAL Pyramid Scheme
Lexington, Kentucky - June 16, 2010 - In light of all of the recent investments scams including the infamous Bernie Maddoff, whistleblowers and those with morals fear that the frauds they expose will result in unjust lawsuits filed against them by the companies they complain about. One such situation was that of the lawsuit filed by Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing against Fortune Social LLC and Joseph Isaacs in May 2010.
Joseph Isaacs and Fortune Social, LLC (collectively “Isaacs”) deny each and every claim brought by Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing, Inc. (“FHTM”) in a filing made today with the American Arbitration Association, who is overseeing this case. In addition, Isaacs fights back and asserts his own counterclaim for relief against FHTM, Paul C. Orberson (individually and in his capacity as President of FHTM), Jeff Orberson (individually and in his capacity as Chief Operating Officer of FHTM), and Thomas A. Mills (individually and in his capacity as Vice-President and Chief Executive Officer of FHTM) (collectively “FHTM”). Isaacs counterclaim claim Breach of Fiduciary Duty, Breach of Contract, Common Law Fraud, Unfair & Deceptive Business Practices, Failure to Register Securities, Fraudulent Practices Regarding the Sale of Securities, Civil Racketeering Conspiracy (violation of the Federal RICO statutes) and Defamation.
FHTM operates an unlawful product-based endless recruiting pyramid scheme that relies on untrue and misleading representations and unlawful, unfair, and fraudulent business practices. While FHTM purports to be in the business of selling name-brand services like wireless, satellite television, home security, vitamins, nutritional products and travel services, its true business is using consumers to generate fee income for representing non-existent partnerships, major sports figures, and prominent businessmen. To entice consumers to participate, FHTM makes untrue or misleading claims regarding its relationship with Fortune 100 companies like Verizon Wireless, GE Security, Dish Networks and Travelocity to create the illusion that consumers can become millionaires in three to five years.
FHTM’s growth exploded when it began to lure consumers disenchanted with traditional jobs and the recession that began in 2007 to inspirational and high-pressure business opportunity seminars touting an innovative business model that promises huge financial rewards through multi-level network marketing. FHTM erring presenters claim to have proprietary tools, special relationships, and other support that allow consumers to grow their own business by partnering with FHTM’s “companies”.
It would not be long before Isaacs (and the world) made several troubling discoveries about FHTM’s business plan and practices that doused his enthusiasm: (1) Paul Orberson had not made any special arrangements with the companies mentioned at the business opportunity/presentation seminar or in the company produced videos; (2) the only way to earn a significant income and be promoted up the ranks was to recruit additional IRs; (3) FHTM had not received regulatory approval for its pyramiding scheme in every state; (4) only a handful of IRs had earned anywhere near the residuals projected; (5) the prominent businessmen, politicians, former attorney generals and sports figures to whom FHTM constantly alluded were in fact IRs actively promoting their own FHTM business; and (6) a growing number of state attorneys general had already begun investigating FHTM in response to numerous complaints.
It turns out that FHTM’s ‘innovative’ marketing plan is nothing more than a face lift to an age-old scheme. According to the FTC’s Consumer Protection Bureau:
Pyramid schemes now come in so many forms that they may be difficult to recognize immediately. However, they all share one overriding characteristic. They promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their program, not based on profits from any real investment or real sale of goods to the public. Some schemes may purport to sell a product, but they often simply use the product to hide their pyramid structure. There are two tell-tale signs that a product is simply being used to disguise a pyramid scheme: inventory loading and a lack of retail sales. Inventory loading occurs when a company's incentive program forces recruits to buy more products than they could ever sell, often at inflated prices. If this occurs throughout the company's distribution system, the people at the top of the pyramid reap substantial profits, even though little or no product moves to market. The people at the bottom make excessive payments for inventory that simply accumulates in their basements. A lack of retail sales is also a red flag that a pyramid exists. Many pyramid schemes will claim that their product is selling like hot cakes. However, on closer examination, the sales occur only between people inside the pyramid structure or to new recruits joining the structure, not to consumers out in the general public.
Nonetheless, the truth is catching up with FHTM. On December 10, 2009, The North Dakota Attorney General's Office filed a Cease and Desist Order for violation of the Consumer Fraud Law, the Transient Merchant Law, the Home Solicitation Sales Law, and the North Dakota Pyramid Schemes Act. On January 19, 2010, FHTM entered into a Assurance of Voluntary Compliance with the North Dakota Attorney General's Office. On March 16, 2010, the Montana State Auditor's Office filed a Temporary Cease and Desist Order against FHTM, Paul C. Orberson, Thomas A. Mills, and Dianne Graber (a Montana IR). According to the Montana State Auditor's Office, FHTM has engaged in acts or practices constituting violations of the Securities Act of Montana, Montana Code ANN.[protected] et seq. On April 22, 2010, FHTM agreed to pay nearly $1 million and to change its business practices to resolve the charge that it is operating a pyramid promotional scheme.
With each passing day, more states are jumping on FHTM’s bandwagon. The alarming rise in consumer complaints and governmental sanctions has prompted the Better Business Bureau of Central and Eastern Kentucky to downgrade FHTM’s rating from “B-” to “F”. At the same time, a proliferation of online bulletin boards and blogs, such as www.complaintsboard.com and www.scams.com criticize FHTM’s pyramid scheme confirms that Isaacs’ experience is not unique. Will those operations be the next target of Fortune’s high price legal team?
Wake up and smell the deception! FHTM is collecting millions and disbursing a mere pittance. As to top tier companies aligned with FHTM that’s crap! Validate your information, I went back and carefully listened to the video by Joel McNitch and others talking about FHTM and noticed they are VERY precise in their selection of words and terms. Name recognition is a key point in their presentation. During their scripted presentation they ask if you’ve heard of a company called Home Depot, of course you have, then they go on to say “How would you like to get paid for shopping there?” but they do not say they are partnered with them, (because they are NOT) they talk about their partnership with a company called BSP then they pop up a sign with Home Depot, Macy’s, Best Buy and Chili’s. This is a true representation of BSP rewards, NOT FHTM. But the allure of making a few thousand (or at least that’s what you’re lead to believe) is just too much. Open your eyes, I’m sure you believed you could make tons of money and you've enlisted the help of family and friends to accomplish this. Now you can't go back and tell them you were wrong. This company is NOT here to help you they are here to exploit you!
MyTelTag
This is a product only available to Representatives and costs $19.99 a month. So clearly buying this won't make you money as a representative, and in fact will cost you $19.99 a month.
Peter Lamas has a direct affiliate program paying 20%, that is free to sign up for. So going through FHTM pays you .5%, and signing up for a free affiliate account pays 20%.
Choice Plans RX
This is a FHTM company that they pay Ocenture to set up and run for them. When you go to the website, it has copyright FHTM, but when you look who owns the domain name, all contact emails are to ocenture.com email addresses. If you use this product, remember you are actually buying from FHTM, and be sure to check prices you are paying against a site such as drugstore.com. A spot check of the price list shows the drug Pegasys for 180MCG/0.5 for $1, 482.23. It appears to be available from drugstore.com as a 1ml vial for $651.98. If the 0.5 in the ChoicePlanRX price refers to half a ML, then you pay $2, 964.46 for 1ml, while at drugstore.com you can get it for $651.98. I suggest you look at the prices yourself.
Health Card
This product is yet another product that FHTM paid Ocenture to run, and Ocenture uses VantageAmerica Solutions, Inc. to run the card discounts. It looks like FHTM paid Ocenture to rebrand their pre packaged product called MedAffordable. so you can work with just one middle man instead of three (FHTM, Ocenture, and VantageAmericaSolutions)
Travel FHTM
This is another service where FHTM paid Ocenture to rebrand and rename their existing product called TrotHop, and to set up an affiliate site through Travelocity, to book tickets through an airline. If you buy from TravelFHTM, you are going through three middlemen to reach the airline (FHTM, Ocenture, & Travelocity). Basically this service uses Travelocity, rebranded to look like TravelFHTM, adding on a fee to each ticket. Tickets tend to be $5 – $10 dollars more on TravelFHTM than buying straight from Travelocity, you can test this by checking the price for an identical flight through Travelocity and TravelFHTM. Also, in order to offer this product, the representative must pay $49.99
Roadside AutoClub
This is simply a service set up by Ocenture to provide roadside assistance. You can go to http://ocenture.com/PrePackPrograms to look at all the services Ocenture can set up for your organization. It looks like this is what FHTM did.
Ingrid Home Security
The link to this service did not work, so I was unable to assess what this service was. If the link is not working, it's safe to say you can't use this service.
Protect America
This appears to be a GE security product that FHTM markets, by going through an authorized dealer, greatalarms.com. So you have 2 middle men, (FHTM and greatalarms.com) As of 2.26.10, the FHTM's site had free* sign up options, but the asterisk beside the FREE does not have an explanation. It should include this: * "Standard monitoring agreement required with approved credit. ", FHTM is misleading if they don't show the disclaimer. It is not free.
FortuneTV.info
This is a product only available to Fortune Representatives, and so is not a way for FHTM reps to make money.
EZnet Tools
This is a Quick Website Creation Company that welcomes Multi Level Marketing Companies as affiliates. If you want to set up a simple website, I suggest you use a reputable company like wordpress.com, who can have you online on your own domain name for $15 a year
Dish Network
Anyone can become an affiliate of Dish Network, and be paid $150 per installation, you can become an affiliate at vmc satelliet on the net.. Compare that to 8 cents through FHTM, and the best choice is clear.
The Wireless Shop
One of the most talked about services at FHTM is the wireless shop. This is a website that FHTM uses Simplexity to run. You can buy cell phones and cell phone contracts through this service. Simplexity uses linkshare.com to purchase these services. By going through FHTM Wireless Shop you appear to be using three middlemen (FHTM, Simplexity, and Linkshare). Linkshare can be joined for free by going to simplexity's site which can be joined for free by going to Simplexity or Link Share and clicking on "Join Our Wireless Program Today" and create a free affiliate account, and start earning the full commission instead of the .05 cents FHTM gives back to their representatives. With this free account, you can earn affiliate money from many companies, So FHTM does not really have a direct relationship with Verizon and AT&T, contrary to the impression given by the company.
As I pointed out above the wireless shop is an affiliate membership which pays from $35 to $51 dollars per contract sold. FHTM is then taking this breaking it down into 24 equal payment and calling it a 1/4 percent. When in fact they are only paying out .05 cents of what you earned, which totals $1.20 which leaves $49.80 in FHTM’s pocket. Look at their schedule of payments in their Policies and Procedures pamphlet page 46.
Looking at the attached chart you can see the two columns highlighted are “The Wireless Shop” and “Dish Network” both of which the dolar amount listed is the payout per contract, NOT 1/4 percent! So they are paying 5 cents for your wireless and 8 cents for Dish Network. Would it surprise you to know that Dish network pays $150 per contract.
By level 8; FHTM makes $2, 952, 00 paying out $984, 100 In so called residuals they make approximately $1, 238, 489 don’t forget to take into account annual dues which total $1, 312, 200 and $2, 952, 000 annually and that’s for the use of their website of which you make absolutely nothing. How many times over (since 2001) has FHTM made it to level 8?
No legally this is not against the law but no matter how you look at it, THIS IS A SCAM!
Taking peoples money
My complaints is about FHTM. I quit this company today as I did the math and figured out that its simply three people putting in money to pay one person. If 3 people sign up at 300 each and the manager gets 100 what happens to the other 200 per person. On a line of nine people thats 1800 times how many lines deep. And if they are paying out $400 bonus checks when you reach the higher level and people are still only paying 300 where do they get the other 100. It has to be coming from somewhere. I urge everyone to sit down and look at how their pay structure is set out and do the math yourself. And what about these supposedly great products and services. Most if not all of them are so overpriced its ridiculous. AMA in Alberta is about $80 per year. Theres is 180.00
per year. Even with a supposed rebate you are paying more than if you went somewhere else. By the way I contacted Peter Lamas and found out they are no longer affiliated with FHTM. My complaints about this company just continue to grow. What kind of company recruits people to sign up people so they dont have to do anything. They talk in their presentation about how awful it is to have a JOB yet I see all these people running around me going to meetings, bringing people into their homes doing presentations. It looks like a lot of work for something thats supposed to give you all this "freedom". I hope if enough people talk about the stupidity of this business we can shut it down. If anyone has a response let me know.
What an ignorant fool
No dumb fu*k, but the FTC does in America. Who ever said anything about Canada?
FHTM makes it onto the FTC list of rip-offs. Looks like this company is about to implode
FTC Steps Up Efforts Against Scams That Target Financially-Strapped Consumers
More Than 90 Actions Brought By Commission and Its Law Enforcement Partners
The Federal Trade Commission today stepped up its ongoing campaign against scammers who falsely promise guaranteed jobs and opportunities to “be your own boss” to consumers who are struggling with unemployment and diminished incomes as a consequence of the economic downturn.
“Operation Empty Promises, ” a multi-agency law enforcement initiative today announced more than 90 enforcement actions, including three new FTC cases and developments in seven other matters, 48 criminal actions by the Department of Justice (many of which involved the assistance of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service), seven additional civil actions by the Postal Inspection Service, and 28 actions by state law enforcement agencies in Alaska, California, Indiana, Kansas, Maryland, Montana, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Washington, and the District of Columbia.
In a press conference at the FTC, David Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, was joined by Tony West, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division of the Department of Justice; Greg Campbell, Deputy Chief Inspector of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service; North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper; and a California consumer who had bought into a program to start his own Internet business.
“The victims of these frauds are our neighbors – people who are trying to make an honest living, ” said David C. Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. “Under pressure to make ends meet, they risked their limited financial resources in response to the promise of a job, an income – a chance at a profitable home-based business. But these turned out to be empty promises – and the people who counted on them ended up with high levels of frustration and even higher levels of debt.”
The FTC has updated consumer education materials to help consumers avoid falling victim to these scams. Screen shots from the websites of some of the operators charged in this law enforcement sweep, as well as video footage of FTC Consumer Protection Director Vladeck and FTC attorney Daniel Hanks, are also available at ftc.gov/bizopps or youtube.com/FTCvideos.
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/73082559/FHTM-named-in-FTC-investigation-of-illegal-companies
www.fhtmclassaction.info for all of the details
FHTM operates an unlawful product-based endless recruiting pyramid scheme that relies on untrue and misleading representations and unlawful, unfair, and fraudulent business practices. While FHTM purports to be in the business of selling name-brand services like wireless, satellite television, home security, vitamins, nutritional products and travel services, its true business is using consumers to generate fee income for representing non-existent partnerships, major sports figures, and prominent businessmen. To entice consumers to participate, FHTM makes untrue or misleading claims regarding its relationship with Fortune 100 companies like Verizon Wireless, GE Security, Dish Networks and Travelocity to create the illusion that consumers can become millionaires in three to five years.
FHTM’s growth exploded when it began to lure consumers disenchanted with traditional jobs and the recession that began in 2007 to inspirational and high-pressure business opportunity seminars touting an innovative business model that promises huge financial rewards through multi-level network marketing. FHTM erring presenters claim to have proprietary tools, special relationships, and other support that allow consumers to grow their own business by partnering with FHTM’s “companies”.
It would not be long before Isaacs (and the world) made several troubling discoveries about FHTM’s business plan and practices that doused his enthusiasm: (1) Paul Orberson had not made any special arrangements with the companies mentioned at the business opportunity/presentation seminar or in the company produced videos; (2) the only way to earn a significant income and be promoted up the ranks was to recruit additional IRs; (3) FHTM had not received regulatory approval for its pyramiding scheme in every state; (4) only a handful of IRs had earned anywhere near the residuals projected; (5) the prominent businessmen, politicians, former attorney generals and sports figures to whom FHTM constantly alluded were in fact IRs actively promoting their own FHTM business; and (6) a growing number of state attorneys general had already begun investigating FHTM in response to numerous complaints.
It turns out that FHTM’s ‘innovative’ marketing plan is nothing more than a face lift to an age-old scheme. According to the FTC’s Consumer Protection Bureau:
Pyramid schemes now come in so many forms that they may be difficult to recognize immediately. However, they all share one overriding characteristic. They promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their program, not based on profits from any real investment or real sale of goods to the public. Some schemes may purport to sell a product, but they often simply use the product to hide their pyramid structure. There are two tell-tale signs that a product is simply being used to disguise a pyramid scheme: inventory loading and a lack of retail sales. Inventory loading occurs when a company's incentive program forces recruits to buy more products than they could ever sell, often at inflated prices. If this occurs throughout the company's distribution system, the people at the top of the pyramid reap substantial profits, even though little or no product moves to market. The people at the bottom make excessive payments for inventory that simply accumulates in their basements. A lack of retail sales is also a red flag that a pyramid exists. Many pyramid schemes will claim that their product is selling like hot cakes. However, on closer examination, the sales occur only between people inside the pyramid structure or to new recruits joining the structure, not to consumers out in the general public.
Nonetheless, the truth is catching up with FHTM. On December 10, 2009, The North Dakota Attorney General's Office filed a Cease and Desist Order for violation of the Consumer Fraud Law, the Transient Merchant Law, the Home Solicitation Sales Law, and the North Dakota Pyramid Schemes Act. On January 19, 2010, FHTM entered into a Assurance of Voluntary Compliance with the North Dakota Attorney General's Office. On March 16, 2010, the Montana State Auditor's Office filed a Temporary Cease and Desist Order against FHTM, Paul C. Orberson, Thomas A. Mills, and Dianne Graber (a Montana IR). According to the Montana State Auditor's Office, FHTM has engaged in acts or practices constituting violations of the Securities Act of Montana, Montana Code ANN.[protected] et seq. On April 22, 2010, FHTM agreed to pay nearly $1 million and to change its business practices to resolve the charge that it is operating a pyramid promotional scheme.
With each passing day, more states are jumping on FHTM’s bandwagon. The alarming rise in consumer complaints and governmental sanctions has prompted the Better Business Bureau of Central and Eastern Kentucky to downgrade FHTM’s rating from “B-” to “F”. At the same time, a proliferation of online bulletin boards and blogs, such as www.complaintsboard.com and www.scams.com criticize FHTM’s pyramid scheme confirms that Isaacs’ experience is not unique. Will those operations be the next target of Fortune’s high price legal team?
http://www.sao.mt.gov/legal/securities/S10_HITECH Cease and Desist.pdf
http://www.whas11.com/news/business/I-Team-Inivestigation-Fortune-Hi-Tech-Marketing-94266814.html
http://www.whas11.com/community/I-Team-Investigation-Fortune-Hi-Tech-Marketing-94273719.html
Dec 10, 2009
North Dakota Attorney General issues a Cease and Desist against Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing for several violations
http://www.ag.state.nd.us/documents/FortuneCeaseandDesist.pdf
http://www.ag.state.nd.us/NewsReleases/2009/12-11-09.pdf
March 4th, 2010
Montana State Auditor issues a Cease and Desist against Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing after receiving numerous complaints
http://www.sao.mt.gov/legal/securities/S10_HITECH Cease and Desist.pdf
KFBB News video
http://www.kfbb.com/news/local/87709867.html?video=YHI&t=a
March 7, 2010
A thin line between legal and illegal in multi-level marketing
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/03/07/1171075/a-thin-line-between-legal-and.html
March 10, 2010
Peter Lamas Pulls out of FHTM in the U.S.
http://gravittefhtm.info/wordpress/?p=234
March 17, 2010
Kentucky Lexington Herald-Leader writes “Montana says Lexington Company is a pyramid scheme, Fortune Marketing company Banned”
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/03/17/1184218/montana-says-lexington-company.html
March 26, 2010
Better Business Bureau News Center
http://spokane.bbb.org/article/fortune-hi-tech-marketing-of-ky-holding-meetings-in-region-recruiting-in-wa-state-18461
March 27, 2010
Washington KNDO News aired “Better Business Bureau warns about possible pyramid scheme”
http://www.kndo.com/Global/story.asp?S=12214040
April 22nd, 2010
FHTM agrees to pay nearly $1 million to settle allegations that FHTM was operating a pyramid promotional scheme in Montana.
http://www.sao.mt.gov/news/20100422HiTech.html
May 18th, 2010
San Antonio, Texas Ken5 news airs false claims about FHTM
http://www.kens5.com/news/local/Shady-network-marketing-company-comes-to-San-Antonio-area-94208419.html
May 19th & 20th, 2010
I-Team Investigation in Louisville, KY, FHTM’s home state, did a 2 part investigation into FHTM. Supported by supportive facts
http://www.whas11.com/news/business/I-Team-Inivestigation-Fortune-Hi-Tech-Marketing-94266814.html
May 27th, 2010
Charlotte, NC WCNC News exposes high profile people in FHTM found to be untrue
http://www.wcnc.com/home/Pyramid-scheme-recruits-high-profile-sales-reps-94971214.html
May 27th, 2010
Charlotte, NC – Charlotte, Observer
'Pyramid scheme' recruits high profile sales reps
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/05/27/1462263/pyramid-scheme-recruits-high-profile.html
July 15, 2010
WCNC News Charlotte, NC I-Team Investigation exposes FHTM’s earnings
http://www.wcnc.com/home/IN-FHTM-PYRAMID-SCHEME-FEW-EARN-MUCH-MONEY---98543069.html
Lexington, KY BBB has given FHTM the lowest rating for a company an F for most of the year
http://www.lexington.bbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=14004419
If you have been cheated by Fortune or feel that FORTUNE has mislead you into thinking that they had contracts with all of these companies or any other issues, then please email us at cheatedbyfortune at yahoo.com
This is not to recruit you to anything else.
by Adam Walser
WHAS11.com
LEXINGTON, Ky. (WHAS11) -- A Kentucky-based company has been the target of legal actions by two different states. When we first told you about Fortune Hi Tech Marketing in May, the company had just agreed to a settlement with Montana which required it to pay a fine of nearly a million dollars and post its average income statements.
Fortune reps recruit in restaurants, churches and auditoriums nationwide. They bring in thousands of new members every year, partly by preaching the gospel of prosperity. "You're gonna get paid $100, 000 a year for doing exactly what you do today, ” said one representative in his You Tube recruiting video. “There are quite a few people that stand up in front of the room and talk about how much they're making. One of them posted online he is making $400, 000 a month, ” said a former representative from Texas.
The Lexington-based company's own top reps have said that Fortune has 200, 000 representatives with annual sales of $500 million. Fortune claims success from representing products from well known companies. “Everybody comes into our business the exact same way, has the exact same opportunities, ” said FHTM CEO Tom Mills.
However, some former members say it's not sales but recruitment that matters, and only the top recruiters earn big bucks. “Maybe you've got 200 people in Fortune that are from the Executive level up nationally that are making any sizable amount of money, and the rest are all going broke, ” said former FHTM representative Joe Isaacs.
Montana investigators say most of the state's 3, 000 Fortune reps paid hundreds of dollars to join, but made little or no money. The state called fortune a "pyramid promotional scheme" and ordered the company to make annual income statements available. Fortune agreed to post them in order to continue operating in Montana.
It wasn't easy for us to find the financial disclosure statement, but we finally did after navigating the website for a while. We went under “opportunity”, then clicked on “rewards, ” then we had to scroll down past the photographs of Fortune members swimming with the dolphins and a family picking up the new Lexis in order to find a tiny link at the bottom of the page. The information inside speaks volumes about Fortune's compensation.
In the fine print, it says 71 percent of reps are actually paid. 28 percent earn zero. As for how the rest would look on a graph, “It would certainly have a pyramid shape to it, ” said Charlie Mattingly, CEO of the Louisville Better Business Bureau. Nearly 95 percent of reps earn less than $3, 000 a year. Another four percent earn between $3, 000 and-$30, 000. That means less than half of one percent of Fortune reps average more than that.
“What these numbers show is that relatively few people are making substantial amounts of money. 95 percent of the participants are making very little money, ” said Mattingly.
Fortune's marketing manager Laura McDonald said in a statement "Our goal with this document is to make sure that prospective FHTM Independent Representatives realize that they will need to work hard to earn an income and success is not guaranteed."
You can click here to see FHTM annual income statements.
Read what I have written. Which part of this is not clear. Yes, you can make a lot of money but at what cost? Who is actually benefitting? I'll bet Bernie Maddof made similar claims!
you people are bitter because you didnt put the effort into making your opportunity successful...i defy you to show me another company where your investment is so low and your earnings potential is UNLIMITED! FHTM IS A WONDERFUL COMPANY AND THERE IS COMPLETE DISCLOSURE IF YOU WILL GO TO THEIR WEBSITE AND READ! don't just try to ruin someone elses dream!
Wake up and smell the deception! FHTM is collecting millions and disbursing a mere pittance. As to top tier companies aligned with FHTM that’s crap! Validate your information, I went back and carefully listened to the video by Joel McNitch and others talking about FHTM and noticed they are VERY precise in their selection of words and terms. Name recognition is a key point in their presentation. During their scripted presentation they ask if you’ve heard of a company called Home Depot, of course you have, then they go on to say “How would you like to get paid for shopping there?” but they do not say they are partnered with them, (because they are NOT) they talk about their partnership with a company called BSP then they pop up a sign with Home Depot, Macy’s, Best Buy and Chili’s. This is a true representation of BSP rewards, NOT FHTM. But the allure of making a few thousand (or at least that’s what you’re lead to believe) is just too much. Open your eyes, I’m sure you believed you could make tons of money and you've enlisted the help of family and friends to accomplish this. Now you can't go back and tell them you were wrong. This company is NOT here to help you they are here to exploit you!
MyTelTag
This is a product only available to Representatives and costs $19.99 a month. So clearly buying this won't make you money as a representative, and in fact will cost you $19.99 a month.
Peter Lamas has a direct affiliate program paying 20%, that is free to sign up for. So going through FHTM pays you .5%, and signing up for a free affiliate account pays 20%.
Choice Plans RX
This is a FHTM company that they pay Ocenture to set up and run for them. When you go to the website, it has copyright FHTM, but when you look who owns the domain name, all contact emails are to ocenture.com email addresses. If you use this product, remember you are actually buying from FHTM, and be sure to check prices you are paying against a site such as drugstore.com. A spot check of the price list shows the drug Pegasys for 180MCG/0.5 for $1, 482.23. It appears to be available from drugstore.com as a 1ml vial for $651.98. If the 0.5 in the ChoicePlanRX price refers to half a ML, then you pay $2, 964.46 for 1ml, while at drugstore.com you can get it for $651.98. I suggest you look at the prices yourself.
Health Card
This product is yet another product that FHTM paid Ocenture to run, and Ocenture uses VantageAmerica Solutions, Inc. to run the card discounts. It looks like FHTM paid Ocenture to rebrand their pre packaged product called MedAffordable. so you can work with just one middle man instead of three (FHTM, Ocenture, and VantageAmericaSolutions)
Travel FHTM
This is another service where FHTM paid Ocenture to rebrand and rename their existing product called TrotHop, and to set up an affiliate site through Travelocity, to book tickets through an airline. If you buy from TravelFHTM, you are going through three middlemen to reach the airline (FHTM, Ocenture, & Travelocity). Basically this service uses Travelocity, rebranded to look like TravelFHTM, adding on a fee to each ticket. Tickets tend to be $5 – $10 dollars more on TravelFHTM than buying straight from Travelocity, you can test this by checking the price for an identical flight through Travelocity and TravelFHTM. Also, in order to offer this product, the representative must pay $49.99
Roadside AutoClub
This is simply a service set up by Ocenture to provide roadside assistance. You can go to http://ocenture.com/PrePackPrograms to look at all the services Ocenture can set up for your organization. It looks like this is what FHTM did.
Ingrid Home Security
The link to this service did not work, so I was unable to assess what this service was. If the link is not working, it's safe to say you can't use this service.
Protect America
This appears to be a GE security product that FHTM markets, by going through an authorized dealer, greatalarms.com. So you have 2 middle men, (FHTM and greatalarms.com) As of 2.26.10, the FHTM's site had free* sign up options, but the asterisk beside the FREE does not have an explanation. It should include this: * "Standard monitoring agreement required with approved credit. ", FHTM is misleading if they don't show the disclaimer. It is not free.
FortuneTV.info
This is a product only available to Fortune Representatives, and so is not a way for FHTM reps to make money.
EZnet Tools
This is a Quick Website Creation Company that welcomes Multi Level Marketing Companies as affiliates. If you want to set up a simple website, I suggest you use a reputable company like wordpress.com, who can have you online on your own domain name for $15 a year
Dish Network
Anyone can become an affiliate of Dish Network, and be paid $150 per installation, you can become an affiliate at vmc satelliet on the net.. Compare that to 8 cents through FHTM, and the best choice is clear.
The Wireless Shop
One of the most talked about services at FHTM is the wireless shop. This is a website that FHTM uses Simplexity to run. You can buy cell phones and cell phone contracts through this service. Simplexity uses linkshare.com to purchase these services. By going through FHTM Wireless Shop you appear to be using three middlemen (FHTM, Simplexity, and Linkshare). Linkshare can be joined for free by going to simplexity's site which can be joined for free by going to Simplexity or Link Share and clicking on "Join Our Wireless Program Today" and create a free affiliate account, and start earning the full commission instead of the .05 cents FHTM gives back to their representatives. With this free account, you can earn affiliate money from many companies, So FHTM does not really have a direct relationship with Verizon and AT&T, contrary to the impression given by the company.
As I pointed out above the wireless shop is an affiliate membership which pays from $35 to $51 dollars per contract sold. FHTM is then taking this breaking it down into 24 equal payment and calling it a 1/4 percent. When in fact they are only paying out .05 cents of what you earned, which totals $1.20 which leaves $49.80 in FHTM’s pocket. Look at their schedule of payments in their Policies and Procedures pamphlet page 46.
Looking at the attached chart you can see the two columns highlighted are “The Wireless Shop” and “Dish Network” both of which the dolar amount listed is the payout per contract, NOT 1/4 percent! So they are paying 5 cents for your wireless and 8 cents for Dish Network. Would it surprise you to know that Dish network pays $150 per contract.
By level 8; FHTM makes $2, 952, 00 paying out $984, 100 In so called residuals they make approximately $1, 238, 489 don’t forget to take into account annual dues which total $1, 312, 200 and $2, 952, 000 annually and that’s for the use of their website of which you make absolutely nothing. How many times over (since 2001) has FHTM made it to level 8?
No legally this is not against the law but no matter how you look at it, THIS IS A SCAM!
A Legal Pryamid
I was approached by someone from FHTM the business concept looks great. When I looked deeper into it you can make money soley off of the recruitment and also off of the monthly subscription fee of $25 for your website. They do pay people and people make money at it . But I would say that it is a very well ran a legit pryamid based of off subscription fees. Maybe i'm wrong but this is what I found out. First off all is this legal?
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
I have been in FHTM for a year now. I increased my income to pay off debt! Part time I have made a lot more than I did as an educator! The company pays out for sales brought into the company! Instead of selling door to door, just get a few people that want to make money using products and sharing that idea! The company is great! People may mis-represent anything in life, don't let a few people ruin a great company and the chance for people to have an opportunity to make a great financial change in their life! What I have experienced in a year is that it does take hard work, most people are not willing to do what it takes to succeed! I don't see anyone slamming vacuum cleaner sales companies... The success rate is probably not good, what about all the small businesses that have gone under, was the whole plan to own a business a scam because they were not successful? In the world today, fill out an application.. Maybe you will get an interview... 15 show up.. They hire 1.. are jobs a scam? Not everyone will be successful, But they at least have a Chance to TRY with FHTM!
According to Corporate Frauds Watch
In 'MLM business opportunity' frauds, direct association with trusted brands has been a lie by Shyam
In a previous post, I drew your free-thinking readers' attention to some remarkable optical illusions which clearly demonstrate that the human mind can be easily deceived simply by changing the context in which we see things http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-11553099 . A stalking-panther, when photographed in a jungle environment, is almost invisible to the human eye if shown only in black and white, but the same dangerous predator is immediately obvious to us when shown in color. Two squares of identical color and shade, appear to be of completely different color and shade when each one is surrounded by squares which alter the context in which our minds automatically see them.
No one now seriously disputes that deluded, core-'MLM' adherents look at 'MLM business opportunity' frauds only in two dimensions, 'positive' and 'negative.' A growing mountain of quantifiable evidence proves that vast numbers of ill-informed people have been deceived into entering this style of camouflaged totalitarian cult, then, on the pretext that 'the duplication of a step-by-step positive plan will lead to success, ' they have been intellectually-castrated (without their fully-informed consent) so that their minds will only accept what their leaders have arbitrarily defined as 'positive, ' and to exclude what these same charlatans have arbitrarily defined as 'negative.' When seen only in the fake 'positive' context of: 'Business', 'Independence', 'Financial Freedom', 'Direct Selling', 'Low Risk', 'Income Opportunity', etc. 'MLM business opportunity' frauds can appear to be authentic. This dangerous inversion of reality has been further confirmed by (apparently independent) : celebrity endorsements, glossy-advertizing, 'Direct Selling Associations', etc.; all of which form a pattern of ongoing, major, racketeering activity, because all these artificially-created, fake 'positive' contexts have actually been financed by the profits of fraud in order to continue to perpetrate the same fraud. It is only when you take 'MLM business opportunity' frauds out of their artificially-created, fake 'positive' contexts, that their true, predatory nature becomes immediately obvious.
One of the most-deceptive, fake 'positive' contexts in which 'MLM business opportunity' frauds have been presented is there apparent direct association with trusted brands. Currently, in the USA, the millionaire racketeers behind the 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing' lie are being challenged in court for having pretended direct association with some of America's most famous companies: including: General Electric, DuPont, Time, Verizon Wireless and AT&T, Travelocity, Peter Lamas and BSP Rewards Mall. For, according to documents presented in court, none of these companies has ever had a direct association with 'FHTM.' Furthermore, the officers of all these companies were actually unaware that their valuable brand-names and trademarks were being used by racketeers to commit fraud. The only connection that the 'FHTM' fake has had with all these authentic companies is that 'FHTM' has been a corporate customer of their products and services. Yet again, the use of this devious technique of psychological persuasion has been copied from the original 'MLM business opportunity' fraud, 'Amway.'
According to an 'FHTM' whistleblower, Joseph Isaacs: 'When these companies find out that their trademarks, names, logos and reputations are being used by FHTM in order to aide FHTM in proving its legitimacy they will issue a cease and desist order, insist on actions to stop or not allow FHTM to market their products'. Indeed, currently every one of the companies listed above has either issued a cease and desist order against 'FHTM, ' or no longer allows itself to be aligned with 'Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing.'
Again, according to Joseph Isaacs, 'FHTM leaders would systematically tell prospects during presentations that FHTM must be legal, because no iconic Fortune 100 company would affiliate with a scam' and that 'all of these major companies had sent their CEO’s and legal teams to meet with FHTM founder, Paul Orberson, to evaluate his MLM company.' Self-evidently these scripted-lies were part of an overall pattern of ongoing, major, racketeering activity.
David Brear (copyright 2011)
FTC Steps Up Efforts Against Scams That Target Financially-Strapped Consumers
More Than 90 Actions Brought By Commission and Its Law Enforcement Partners
The Federal Trade Commission today stepped up its ongoing campaign against scammers who falsely promise guaranteed jobs and opportunities to “be your own boss” to consumers who are struggling with unemployment and diminished incomes as a consequence of the economic downturn.
“Operation Empty Promises, ” a multi-agency law enforcement initiative today announced more than 90 enforcement actions, including three new FTC cases and developments in seven other matters, 48 criminal actions by the Department of Justice (many of which involved the assistance of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service), seven additional civil actions by the Postal Inspection Service, and 28 actions by state law enforcement agencies in Alaska, California, Indiana, Kansas, Maryland, Montana, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Washington, and the District of Columbia.
In a press conference at the FTC, David Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, was joined by Tony West, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division of the Department of Justice; Greg Campbell, Deputy Chief Inspector of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service; North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper; and a California consumer who had bought into a program to start his own Internet business.
“The victims of these frauds are our neighbors – people who are trying to make an honest living, ” said David C. Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. “Under pressure to make ends meet, they risked their limited financial resources in response to the promise of a job, an income – a chance at a profitable home-based business. But these turned out to be empty promises – and the people who counted on them ended up with high levels of frustration and even higher levels of debt.”
The FTC has updated consumer education materials to help consumers avoid falling victim to these scams. Screen shots from the websites of some of the operators charged in this law enforcement sweep, as well as video footage of FTC Consumer Protection Director Vladeck and FTC attorney Daniel Hanks, are also available at ftc.gov/bizopps or youtube.com/FTCvideos.
www.fhtmclassaction.info for all of the latest reports on this scam
FHTM is no longer authorized to use the DuPont name, logo, or trademark in any way. FHTM should immediately discontinue the use of any materials containing the DuPont logo. Our right to use DuPont’s name, logo and trademark was revoked because FHTM abused the system by creating and distributing unapproved marketing materials that displayed the DuPont logo.
No, FHTM does not fit the traditional definition of a pyramid scheme. Real products and services are being sold to consumers through the network of Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing representatives. These products and services include cell phone plans, internet telephone service plans, nutritional supplements and travel discounts.
However, since reps are independent, it is not known at any given time whether or not certain outlandish income claims are being made. Any company with thousands of sales representatives can potentially find itself misrepresented. There are plenty of representatives in this company who are successful.
MLM business models are a legitimate method for the selling and promoting of consumer goods and services. However, when the company is found to be emphasizing recruitment of new distributors over the acquisition of product customers, this is where the legitimate MLM model can morph into a genuine pyramid scheme.
Pyramid schemes are illegal as they focus mainly on fast money that is earned by selling the business opportunity that is, selling the opportunity to recruit others into the business instead of selling the opportunity to sell actual products and services. (see article by Cathy Yeatts)
FHTM operates an unlawful product-based endless recruiting pyramid scheme that relies on untrue and misleading representations and unlawful, unfair, and fraudulent business practices. While FHTM purports to be in the business of selling name-brand services like wireless, satellite television, home security, vitamins, nutritional products and travel services, its true business is using consumers to generate fee income for representing non-existent partnerships, major sports figures, and prominent businessmen. To entice consumers to participate, FHTM makes untrue or misleading claims regarding its relationship with Fortune 100 companies like Verizon Wireless, GE Security, Dish Networks and Travelocity to create the illusion that consumers can become millionaires in three to five years.
FHTM’s growth exploded when it began to lure consumers disenchanted with traditional jobs and the recession that began in 2007 to inspirational and high-pressure business opportunity seminars touting an innovative business model that promises huge financial rewards through multi-level network marketing. FHTM erring presenters claim to have proprietary tools, special relationships, and other support that allow consumers to grow their own business by partnering with FHTM’s “companies”.
It would not be long before Isaacs (and the world) made several troubling discoveries about FHTM’s business plan and practices that doused his enthusiasm: (1) Paul Orberson had not made any special arrangements with the companies mentioned at the business opportunity/presentation seminar or in the company produced videos; (2) the only way to earn a significant income and be promoted up the ranks was to recruit additional IRs; (3) FHTM had not received regulatory approval for its pyramiding scheme in every state; (4) only a handful of IRs had earned anywhere near the residuals projected; (5) the prominent businessmen, politicians, former attorney generals and sports figures to whom FHTM constantly alluded were in fact IRs actively promoting their own FHTM business; and (6) a growing number of state attorneys general had already begun investigating FHTM in response to numerous complaints.
It turns out that FHTM’s ‘innovative’ marketing plan is nothing more than a face lift to an age-old scheme. According to the FTC’s Consumer Protection Bureau:
Pyramid schemes now come in so many forms that they may be difficult to recognize immediately. However, they all share one overriding characteristic. They promise consumers or investors large profits based primarily on recruiting others to join their program, not based on profits from any real investment or real sale of goods to the public. Some schemes may purport to sell a product, but they often simply use the product to hide their pyramid structure. There are two tell-tale signs that a product is simply being used to disguise a pyramid scheme: inventory loading and a lack of retail sales. Inventory loading occurs when a company's incentive program forces recruits to buy more products than they could ever sell, often at inflated prices. If this occurs throughout the company's distribution system, the people at the top of the pyramid reap substantial profits, even though little or no product moves to market. The people at the bottom make excessive payments for inventory that simply accumulates in their basements. A lack of retail sales is also a red flag that a pyramid exists. Many pyramid schemes will claim that their product is selling like hot cakes. However, on closer examination, the sales occur only between people inside the pyramid structure or to new recruits joining the structure, not to consumers out in the general public.
Nonetheless, the truth is catching up with FHTM. On December 10, 2009, The North Dakota Attorney General's Office filed a Cease and Desist Order for violation of the Consumer Fraud Law, the Transient Merchant Law, the Home Solicitation Sales Law, and the North Dakota Pyramid Schemes Act. On January 19, 2010, FHTM entered into a Assurance of Voluntary Compliance with the North Dakota Attorney General's Office. On March 16, 2010, the Montana State Auditor's Office filed a Temporary Cease and Desist Order against FHTM, Paul C. Orberson, Thomas A. Mills, and Dianne Graber (a Montana IR). According to the Montana State Auditor's Office, FHTM has engaged in acts or practices constituting violations of the Securities Act of Montana, Montana Code ANN.[protected] et seq. On April 22, 2010, FHTM agreed to pay nearly $1 million and to change its business practices to resolve the charge that it is operating a pyramid promotional scheme.
With each passing day, more states are jumping on FHTM’s bandwagon. The alarming rise in consumer complaints and governmental sanctions has prompted the Better Business Bureau of Central and Eastern Kentucky to downgrade FHTM’s rating from “B-” to “F”. At the same time, a proliferation of online bulletin boards and blogs, such as www.complaintsboard.com and www.scams.com criticize FHTM’s pyramid scheme confirms that Isaacs’ experience is not unique. Will those operations be the next target of Fortune’s high price legal team?
http://www.sao.mt.gov/legal/securities/S10_HITECH Cease and Desist.pdf
http://www.whas11.com/news/business/I-Team-Inivestigation-Fortune-Hi-Tech-Marketing-94266814.html
http://www.whas11.com/community/I-Team-Investigation-Fortune-Hi-Tech-Marketing-94273719.html
Dec 10, 2009
North Dakota Attorney General issues a Cease and Desist against Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing for several violations
http://www.ag.state.nd.us/documents/FortuneCeaseandDesist.pdf
http://www.ag.state.nd.us/NewsReleases/2009/12-11-09.pdf
March 4th, 2010
Montana State Auditor issues a Cease and Desist against Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing after receiving numerous complaints
http://www.sao.mt.gov/legal/securities/S10_HITECH Cease and Desist.pdf
KFBB News video
http://www.kfbb.com/news/local/87709867.html?video=YHI&t=a
March 7, 2010
A thin line between legal and illegal in multi-level marketing
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/03/07/1171075/a-thin-line-between-legal-and.html
March 10, 2010
Peter Lamas Pulls out of FHTM in the U.S.
http://gravittefhtm.info/wordpress/?p=234
March 17, 2010
Kentucky Lexington Herald-Leader writes “Montana says Lexington Company is a pyramid scheme, Fortune Marketing company Banned”
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/03/17/1184218/montana-says-lexington-company.html
March 26, 2010
Better Business Bureau News Center
http://spokane.bbb.org/article/fortune-hi-tech-marketing-of-ky-holding-meetings-in-region-recruiting-in-wa-state-18461
March 27, 2010
Washington KNDO News aired “Better Business Bureau warns about possible pyramid scheme”
http://www.kndo.com/Global/story.asp?S=12214040
April 22nd, 2010
FHTM agrees to pay nearly $1 million to settle allegations that FHTM was operating a pyramid promotional scheme in Montana.
http://www.sao.mt.gov/news/20100422HiTech.html
May 18th, 2010
San Antonio, Texas Ken5 news airs false claims about FHTM
http://www.kens5.com/news/local/Shady-network-marketing-company-comes-to-San-Antonio-area-94208419.html
May 19th & 20th, 2010
I-Team Investigation in Louisville, KY, FHTM’s home state, did a 2 part investigation into FHTM. Supported by supportive facts
http://www.whas11.com/news/business/I-Team-Inivestigation-Fortune-Hi-Tech-Marketing-94266814.html
May 27th, 2010
Charlotte, NC WCNC News exposes high profile people in FHTM found to be untrue
http://www.wcnc.com/home/Pyramid-scheme-recruits-high-profile-sales-reps-94971214.html
May 27th, 2010
Charlotte, NC – Charlotte, Observer
'Pyramid scheme' recruits high profile sales reps
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/05/27/1462263/pyramid-scheme-recruits-high-profile.html
July 15, 2010
WCNC News Charlotte, NC I-Team Investigation exposes FHTM’s earnings
http://www.wcnc.com/home/IN-FHTM-PYRAMID-SCHEME-FEW-EARN-MUCH-MONEY---98543069.html
Lexington, KY BBB has given FHTM the lowest rating for a company an F for most of the year
http://www.lexington.bbb.org/commonreport.html?compid=14004419
Pyramid is against the law, seems you are closed minded person. In todays struggling economy and our governmemnt taking our business over seas we are left to what? I have good friend in the business and doing very well. Average people doing what is right in America, making money and providing a better way of life. The company is debt free and pays good hard workers with a decent income. This Business requires work. Open minded people only. You already use the service or some, so why not get paid. I guess some people expect things be really easy, hard work pays off. So be best that you do not join as it seems you are close minded and negative thinker. Go watch The Secret, anything is possible. Who can you trust, Corporate America, US Govenment and are you end a dead end job? Learn to take risk.
It is legal only because it involves services and products. However with FHTM you have to purchase 3 points as they call them. They recommend a website, a conference call access and one other of your choice (one acts like AAA where they will help you if you have car trouble and one called park amusement where you get coupons for dinners and movies etc). Each of those points cost $20- 30 a month. They also reward you with other coupons and other such credit for signing people up for cell phones and cable instead of that guy at the quiosk at the mall or the guy on the other side of the phone getting credit for it. So you are not directly paid for some of the services and products, you mostly get commission for recruiting sales reps underneath you, so in theory it is a pyramid scheme but its legal because there are products and services as well.
NOT a Scam
NO, FHTM is NOT a scam!
Is Morals1 starved for attention or what. I might have missed some of his posts. So, I don't know if he has ever been in FHTM himself (I guess it's a he.) Nevertheless, he is spewing a lot of harsh criticism at a company, which does not deserve it. I basically agree with the comments of altagirl73 and Macronder. I very recently joined FHTM. In the past I have been in several MLM's, and never had any success except selling the products.
In the brief time I have been in Fortune, I have found everyone I have met to be very good representatives of what I regard as THE BEST MLM ever, and I am off to a good start – better than any other ventures. Before I was introduced to Fortune, I had decided I would never participate in another MLM. However, as soon as I saw the presentation, I knew I had to join Fortune. FHTM was created and designed to help everyone who is willing and able to work to be successful. It clearly is not something for nothing. Anyone, who joins Fortune should be fully aware that they will have to work to be successful. Common sense tells you that.
As the quote Macronder mentioned says "MLM is for everybody, not everybody is for MLM."
It does help if you are a natural “people person.” Depending on a person's personality, some might have to work harder than others to “get out of their comfort zone” and approach others about the opportunity. That will be a basic determinant of success. There are millions of people out there, who are very capable of building an FHTM business.
It should be very clear after seeing the Fortune presentation that a lot of people contact will be necessary to build a business. Anyone who thinks otherwise is being naive. When I presented the plan to a friend recently, I emphasized to her that I had some concerns about who she would sponsor, and I repeatedly made the point of the need to get out of one's comfort zone.
The fact is that FHTM offers an OPPORTUNITY for success to people at a time when many millions of us don't see much opportunity. I know – Morals1 will say FHTM is preying on the downtrodden. Since I happen to be one of those downtrodden, and I don't see ANY other way out of the mess that I am in, I am thankful that Fortune at least offers me an opportunity. It is up to ME with the help of my upline (which is great by the way) to make a success of the opportunity.
Now, back to Morals1. Morals1 seems like a misnomer to me. He and others who harshly criticize FHTM seem like despicable dream-stealers to me. I hesitate to say this, because he will probably salivate over it, but comments like his have really thrown cold water on the dreams of some people I know, who were already in Fortune and some who were considering the opportunity. And, the bad-mouthing is not justified!
I had a bad experience with a major TV and appliance retailer (it was NOT Best Buy) a few years ago. It was like working with a car salesman during the original purchase and I later found out that he had indeed SCREWED me. When I later confronted the store manager about it, he passed me off to the home office, and they told me corporate policy would not allow them to remedy my screw-job. This is the first time I have blogged about this incident, and of course I still am NOT naming the company. Crazy things happen and people complain about ALL companies rightly or wrongly, but companies stay in business, because for the most part they do a good an honorable job.
So, Morals1, why don't you take your acid tongue some where else. Get a life and let people with real dreams have an opportunity to realize them on their own.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Too many people want to just have their 'Fortune' given to them without actually having to go work for it. It amazes me that no matter what - these people will whine and cry over the fact that it didn't work for them... Did they work for it? Really? Did they push up their sleeves and actually get in and do the WORK that is involved with any business? Or are they just sitting on their couches waiting for checks to roll in? If you didn't go out and work for it - guess what? you aren't going to get paid for it.
FTC Steps Up Efforts Against Scams That Target Financially-Strapped Consumers
More Than 90 Actions Brought By Commission and Its Law Enforcement Partners
Attorney General Roy Cooper today joined state attorneys general from across the country and the Federal Trade Commission to announce a national sweep targeting business opportunity scams, including actions against four companies that have targeted North Carolina consumers.
“When jobs are scarce, claims to help people make money fast become plentiful, ” Cooper said. “Consumers think they’re buying into a great way to earn a living, but they could end up paying far more than they’ll ever make.”
In challenging economic times, many people in the state are looking for work. Unfortunately, sometimes they find scams instead of legitimate opportunities. Complaints to the Attorney General’s Consumer Protection Division about business opportunity, work-at-home schemes, and other employment related scams were up 11 percent last year, from 177 complaints in 2009 to 197 complaints in 2010.
Operation Empty Promises is a national sweep by the FTC, Cooper and other state attorneys general aimed at stopping business opportunity scams and educating consumers about how to avoid them. Announced as part of the sweep are actions taken by Cooper’s Consumer Protection Division against four companies including Fortune Hi Tech Marketing who claims that people who buy into its business earn thousands of dollars a year. Based on consumer complaints, Cooper’s office launched an investigation into FHTM in mid 2010. Consumers say they paid money to the company but were only able to make money by recruiting others into the scheme, not by selling any actual goods or services. A total of 25 consumers have now complained about FHTM, and Cooper’s office is investigating the company. Although this case is currently under investigation, it’s important for consumers to know that a pyramid scheme is a violation of the law and is defined as any plan in which a participant pays money for the chance to receive money upon the introduction of new participants into the program.
“We’re looking closely at business opportunities that seem to offer false hopes, and also reaching out to educate consumers on how to recognize and avoid fraud, ” Cooper said.
Later this month, Cooper’s office plans to launch a tool kit to educate consumers on fake business opportunities which will include print, web and video materials. The goal is to prevent North Carolina consumers from losing their hard-earned money to scammers trying to take advantage of a tough employment market.
“Don’t let scammers use empty promises of jobs with high earnings to take your money, ” Cooper warned consumers. “Before you agree to invest in any business, check it out thoroughly and always be skeptical of claims of guaranteed profits.”
Cooper has taken action against a number of other kinds of scams fueled by hard times. For example, his Consumer Protection Division has won 13 cases against foreclosure assistance and loan modification scams in the past five years, including two so far in 2011.The Federal Trade Commission today stepped up its ongoing campaign against scammers who falsely promise guaranteed jobs and opportunities to “be your own boss” to consumers who are struggling with unemployment and diminished incomes as a consequence of the economic downturn.
“Operation Empty Promises, ” a multi-agency law enforcement initiative today announced more than 90 enforcement actions, including three new FTC cases and developments in seven other matters, 48 criminal actions by the Department of Justice (many of which involved the assistance of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service), seven additional civil actions by the Postal Inspection Service, and 28 actions by state law enforcement agencies in Alaska, California, Indiana, Kansas, Maryland, Montana, New Jersey, North Carolina, Oregon, Washington, and the District of Columbia.
In a press conference at the FTC, David Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, was joined by Tony West, Assistant Attorney General for the Civil Division of the Department of Justice; Greg Campbell, Deputy Chief Inspector of the U.S. Postal Inspection Service; North Carolina Attorney General Roy Cooper; and a California consumer who had bought into a program to start his own Internet business.
“The victims of these frauds are our neighbors – people who are trying to make an honest living, ” said David C. Vladeck, Director of the FTC’s Bureau of Consumer Protection. “Under pressure to make ends meet, they risked their limited financial resources in response to the promise of a job, an income – a chance at a profitable home-based business. But these turned out to be empty promises – and the people who counted on them ended up with high levels of frustration and even higher levels of debt.”
The FTC has updated consumer education materials to help consumers avoid falling victim to these scams. Screen shots from the websites of some of the operators charged in this law enforcement sweep, as well as video footage of FTC Consumer Protection Director Vladeck and FTC attorney Daniel Hanks, are also available at the FTC website.
If you have been cheated by Fortune or feel that FORTUNE has mislead you into thinking that they had contracts with all of these companies or any other issues, then please email us at cheatedbyfortune at yahoo.com
This is not to recruit you to anything else.
I would like to know if the people who are making these complaints did they work hard at this business or did they say ok i have a business and now the money should be rolling in any day?
Wake up and smell the deception! FHTM is collecting millions and disbursing a mere pittance. As to top tier companies aligned with FHTM that’s crap! Validate your information, I went back and carefully listened to the video by Joel McNitch and others talking about FHTM and noticed they are VERY precise in their selection of words and terms. Name recognition is a key point in their presentation. During their scripted presentation they ask if you’ve heard of a company called Home Depot, of course you have, then they go on to say “How would you like to get paid for shopping there?” but they do not say they are partnered with them, (because they are NOT) they talk about their partnership with a company called BSP then they pop up a sign with Home Depot, Macy’s, Best Buy and Chili’s. This is a true representation of BSP rewards, NOT FHTM. But the allure of making a few thousand (or at least that’s what you’re lead to believe) is just too much. Open your eyes, I’m sure you believed you could make tons of money and you've enlisted the help of family and friends to accomplish this. Now you can't go back and tell them you were wrong. This company is NOT here to help you they are here to exploit you!
MyTelTag
This is a product only available to Representatives and costs $19.99 a month. So clearly buying this won't make you money as a representative, and in fact will cost you $19.99 a month.
Peter Lamas has a direct affiliate program paying 20%, that is free to sign up for. So going through FHTM pays you .5%, and signing up for a free affiliate account pays 20%.
Choice Plans RX
This is a FHTM company that they pay Ocenture to set up and run for them. When you go to the website, it has copyright FHTM, but when you look who owns the domain name, all contact emails are to ocenture.com email addresses. If you use this product, remember you are actually buying from FHTM, and be sure to check prices you are paying against a site such as drugstore.com. A spot check of the price list shows the drug Pegasys for 180MCG/0.5 for $1, 482.23. It appears to be available from drugstore.com as a 1ml vial for $651.98. If the 0.5 in the ChoicePlanRX price refers to half a ML, then you pay $2, 964.46 for 1ml, while at drugstore.com you can get it for $651.98. I suggest you look at the prices yourself.
Health Card
This product is yet another product that FHTM paid Ocenture to run, and Ocenture uses VantageAmerica Solutions, Inc. to run the card discounts. It looks like FHTM paid Ocenture to rebrand their pre packaged product called MedAffordable. so you can work with just one middle man instead of three (FHTM, Ocenture, and VantageAmericaSolutions)
Travel FHTM
This is another service where FHTM paid Ocenture to rebrand and rename their existing product called TrotHop, and to set up an affiliate site through Travelocity, to book tickets through an airline. If you buy from TravelFHTM, you are going through three middlemen to reach the airline (FHTM, Ocenture, & Travelocity). Basically this service uses Travelocity, rebranded to look like TravelFHTM, adding on a fee to each ticket. Tickets tend to be $5 – $10 dollars more on TravelFHTM than buying straight from Travelocity, you can test this by checking the price for an identical flight through Travelocity and TravelFHTM. Also, in order to offer this product, the representative must pay $49.99
Roadside AutoClub
This is simply a service set up by Ocenture to provide roadside assistance. You can go to http://ocenture.com/PrePackPrograms to look at all the services Ocenture can set up for your organization. It looks like this is what FHTM did.
Ingrid Home Security
The link to this service did not work, so I was unable to assess what this service was. If the link is not working, it's safe to say you can't use this service.
Protect America
This appears to be a GE security product that FHTM markets, by going through an authorized dealer, greatalarms.com. So you have 2 middle men, (FHTM and greatalarms.com) As of 2.26.10, the FHTM's site had free* sign up options, but the asterisk beside the FREE does not have an explanation. It should include this: * "Standard monitoring agreement required with approved credit. ", FHTM is misleading if they don't show the disclaimer. It is not free.
FortuneTV.info
This is a product only available to Fortune Representatives, and so is not a way for FHTM reps to make money.
EZnet Tools
This is a Quick Website Creation Company that welcomes Multi Level Marketing Companies as affiliates. If you want to set up a simple website, I suggest you use a reputable company like wordpress.com, who can have you online on your own domain name for $15 a year
Dish Network
Anyone can become an affiliate of Dish Network, and be paid $150 per installation, you can become an affiliate at vmc satelliet on the net.. Compare that to 8 cents through FHTM, and the best choice is clear.
The Wireless Shop
One of the most talked about services at FHTM is the wireless shop. This is a website that FHTM uses Simplexity to run. You can buy cell phones and cell phone contracts through this service. Simplexity uses linkshare.com to purchase these services. By going through FHTM Wireless Shop you appear to be using three middlemen (FHTM, Simplexity, and Linkshare). Linkshare can be joined for free by going to simplexity's site which can be joined for free by going to Simplexity or Link Share and clicking on "Join Our Wireless Program Today" and create a free affiliate account, and start earning the full commission instead of the .05 cents FHTM gives back to their representatives. With this free account, you can earn affiliate money from many companies, So FHTM does not really have a direct relationship with Verizon and AT&T, contrary to the impression given by the company.
As I pointed out above the wireless shop is an affiliate membership which pays from $35 to $51 dollars per contract sold. FHTM is then taking this breaking it down into 24 equal payment and calling it a 1/4 percent. When in fact they are only paying out .05 cents of what you earned, which totals $1.20 which leaves $49.80 in FHTM’s pocket. Look at their schedule of payments in their Policies and Procedures pamphlet page 46.
Looking at the attached chart you can see the two columns highlighted are “The Wireless Shop” and “Dish Network” both of which the dolar amount listed is the payout per contract, NOT 1/4 percent! So they are paying 5 cents for your wireless and 8 cents for Dish Network. Would it surprise you to know that Dish network pays $150 per contract.
By level 8; FHTM makes $2, 952, 00 paying out $984, 100 In so called residuals they make approximately $1, 238, 489 don’t forget to take into account annual dues which total $1, 312, 200 and $2, 952, 000 annually and that’s for the use of their website of which you make absolutely nothing. How many times over (since 2001) has FHTM made it to level 8?
No legally this is not against the law but no matter how you look at it, THIS IS A SCAM!
Facts are always good. Here are a few good ones. FHTM is not a scam, it's more like a scheme. On december of 09 north dakota filed a cease and desist and a opportunity for a hearing. in jan of 2o1o fhtm paid a settement of 125o0 and anyone who wanted a refund all they had to do was ask back for there money. not enuff facts for you. ok. on marh 16 2010, Montana state filed the same judgement with is still pending. Montana State sling accusations of fraud based upon information they obtained from investigations from the so called companies they were in partnership with. now i say its not a scam because you dont completely get ripped of for your money you earn money, but just partially how they say. The part about earning a percentage of customer's payments are completely false, because fhtm has no contract or agreement with any of those companies they mentioned, but the true part is you earn money from everyone you get to join this company. The more people you get joined the more you make, if you get 9 people to join you'll get a payment for for those nine people. thats as far as your making money from this company goes. hence FHTM is not a scam but a twisted scheme. Incase someone wants to argue about who's right and who's wrong on this topic. Don't take my word for it, see for yourself, visit the better business beareu at www.bbb.org
Look, if you people are honestly that supportive of this company, then spend more effort NOT posting on a complaint board! These posts show up in search results and cause slander about the fhtm that you love so much! It really does not make any sense to me. Respond in a proper manner to negative posts and move on. I am looking for legit info about fhtm and I have seen more ignorant ranting than actual information!
POST FACTS AND NOT FEELINGS!
SHUT DOWN
FINALLY the goverment is seeing what we have been saying!
North Dakota attorney Generals office has closed FHTM down!
Check out the web site!
http://www.ag.state.nd.us/
What I copied was to answer the other ladies question. He put the answer very well. I posted something else in my own words and experiences right after that.
I have suffered at the hand of FHTM and dont want to see others get hurt either. I do believe in Network Marketing and understand the way it works and why. But when you allow people to cheat other reps in the field and when you mislead reps as to the facts at hand I have issues with that and apparently so does the Attorney Generals offices. ND lifted the liecence issue the other stuff is still being investigated as it is with many other states right now. This is way from being over.
I finally gave up trying to work the coruption with FHTM and got an attorney to do it for me.I moved my team out of FHTM and over to a great company who is doing business legally. I wish I has seen them first so I would not have waisted this last year on having FHTM not pay me my pay of over $40, 000.
I am not the only one this has happened to either. Since my first post on here I have recieved many many emails saying Thank you for letting them know they were not the only ones. Montana wont be the last state to shut them down. I dont want to be a part of a sinking ship and I dont want my team hurt anymore either. Paul has allowed fraud and forgury to take place and chose to do nothing about it. It has caught up with him now. FHTM is going down fast and anyone who stays with them will do nothing but fight a loosing battle.
What happend to GO SOLO? People have lost lots of money because the company did away with them and did not inform everyone of the changes.
If you have copies of what was sent out regarding GO SOLO being changed over to MY TEL TAG and us loosing points if we did not do it, please send it to me so I can share it with my former team so they can get some help with this issue.
Now Peter Lamas is gone in the US. There are many other companies that are now being moved over into companies that are owned by FHTM now. So what is all that about? Something is not right here.
Be smart and move your teams over while you still can. My team and I moved over as a group to another company that does not have the hoops to jump through like FHTM does. The pay is so much better and we get paid off of bills that Everyone pays every month. No money is charged for people switching over to our services either. It is so much easier to sell a customer on as a business because we are not begging people to do anything that would cost them extra.
If you are interested contact me. dayandcompany@yahoo.com
FHTM is a multi-level marketing company that purports to allow you to work directly with well known companies and make lots of money by taking a percentage back from purchases made through your FHTM representative site. In reality, if a representative stops signing people up under them, they will make very little money, as little as .5% on products sold through the site (unless you have eight levels of representatives sign up under you, and you also get a small cut of those under you who sell services or products). The get rich quick portion of the presentation relies on signing up people under you for $299 a person, and getting them to sign others up, as well as pay for training at $250 a person. Note that you also must pay a $199 renewal fee each year, and if you pay for the trainer course, an additional $100 trainer renewal fee. This is a text book example of a pyramid scheme, with a token product line on the side to try and make the business legitimate.
I will analyze some of the products that a FHTM representative can get a percentage back on (.5%), which is supposedly the primary focus of the business (if it is not, it is possibly illegal, so they have to pretend that this is the focus). From research and hearing actual representatives say it, the way to make money is to sign people up under you. One representative I heard from only made $17 in a month through the products, but made much more by convincing others to sign up too.
The whole point of this analysis is to show that the sale of products and services through FHTM is not a way to make large amounts of money, and in fact is offered to try and mask the true source of most earnings, which are derived from the sign up fees of new people joining. Thus the primary purpose of the company is to sign up new representatives, making it an illegal pyramid scheme.
MyTelTag
This is a product only available to Representatives and costs $19.99 a month. So clearly buying this won’t make you money as a representative, and in fact will cost you $19.99 a month.
Peter Lamas has a direct affiliate program paying 20% http://www.lamasbeauty.com/affiliate/, that is free to sign up for. So going through FHTM pays you .5%, and signing up for a free affiliate account pays 20%.
Choice Plans RX
This is a FHTM company that they pay Ocenture to set up and run for them. When you go to the website, it has copyright FHTM, but when you look who owns the domain name, all contact emails are to ocenture.com email addresses. If you use this product, remember you are actually buying from FHTM, and be sure to check prices you are paying against a site such as drugstore.com. ChoicePlanRX Price List is available at http://www.choiceplansrx.com/downloads/pricesheet.pdf. A spot check of the price list shows the drug Pegasys for 180MCG/0.5 for $1, 482.23. It appears to be available from drugstore.com as a 1ml vial for $651.98. If the 0.5 in the ChoicePlanRX price refers to half a ML, then you pay $2, 964.46 for 1ml, while at drugstore.com you can get it for $651.98. I suggest you look at the prices yourself.
Health Card
This product is yet another product that FHTM paid Ocenture to run, and Ocenture uses VantageAmerica Solutions, Inc. to run the card discounts. It looks like FHTM paid Ocenture to rebrand their pre packaged product called MedAffordable. If you want a Medical Card, I suggest you go straight to www.vantageamericasolutions.com so you can work with just one middle man instead of three (FHTM, Ocenture, and VantageAmericaSolutions)
Travel FHTM
This is another service where FHTM paid Ocenture to rebrand and rename their existing product called TrotHop http://ocenture.com/docs/OC_Prod_Travel.pdf, and to set up an affiliate site through Travelocity, to book tickets through an airline. If you buy from TravelFHTM, you are going through three middlemen to reach the airline (FHTM, Ocenture, & Travelocity). Basically this service uses Travelocity, rebranded to look like TravelFHTM, adding on a fee to each ticket. Tickets tend to be $5 – $10 dollars more on TravelFHTM than buying straight from Travelocity, you can test this by checking the price for an identical flight through Travelocity and TravelFHTM. Also, in order to offer this product, the representative must pay $49.99
Roadside AutoClub
This is simply a service set up by Ocenture to provide roadside assistance. You can go to http://ocenture.com/PrePackPrograms to look at all the services Ocenture can set up for your organization. It looks like this is what FHTM did.
Ingrid Home Security
The link to this service did not work, so I was unable to assess what this service was. If the link is not working, it’s safe to say you can’t use this service.
Protect America
This appears to be a GE security product that FHTM markets, by going through an authorized dealer, greatalarms.com. So you have 2 middle men, (FHTM and greatalarms.com) As of 2.26.10, the FHTM’s site had free* sign up options, but the asterisk beside the FREE does not have an explanation. It should include this: * “Standard monitoring agreement required with approved credit. “, FHTM is misleading if they don’t show the disclaimer. It is not free.
FortuneTV.info
This is a product only available to Fortune Representatives, and so is not a way for FHTM reps to make money.
EZnet Tools
This is a Quick Website Creation Company that welcomes Multi Level Marketing Companies as affiliates. Information about joining EZnet Tools as an affiliate is available at http://www.eznettools.net/reseller/multiunitcorp.html. If you want to set up a simple website, I suggest you use a reputable company like wordpress.com, who can have you online on your own domain name for $15 a year
Dish Network
Anyone can become an affiliate of Dish Network, and be paid $120 per installation, you can become an affiliate here
http://www.vmcsatellite.com/red_design/program_overview.cfm. Compare that to .5% through FHTM, and the best choice is clear.
Magazines.com
You can sign up for free to be an affiliate of Magazines.com, and earn a 35% commission on subscriptions sold. http://www.magazines.com/affiliate/index . Compare that to .5% through FHTM.
The Wireless Shop
One of the most talked about services at FHTM is the wireless shop. This is a website that FHTM uses Simplexity to run. You can buy cell phones and cell phone contracts through this service. Simplexity uses linkshare.com to purchase these services. By going through FHTM Wireless Shop you appear to be using three middlemen (FHTM, Simplexity, and Linkshare). Linkshare can be joined for free by going to simplexity’s site which can be joined for free by going to http://www.simplexity.com/Pages/affiliate_main.html# and clicking on “Join Our Wireless Program Today” Alternately, you can go straight to LinkShare.com http://www.linkshare.com/publishers/join/ and create a free affiliate account, and start earning the full commission instead of the .5% FHTM gives back to their representatives. With this free account, you can earn affiliate money from many companies, a list of which can be found here http://www.linkshare.com/clients/ . So FHTM does not really have a direct relationship with Verizon and AT&T, contrary to the impression given by the company.
The money that is implied to be available to be made to Representatives (as much as $80, 000 a month is shown) is derived almost entirely from spreadsheets showing what would happen if you signed up three people at $299 a person, and they each signed up three people, and so on, down to eight levels. The problem with this type of business model, besides possibly being illegal, is that in order for people to make the money they were told they could, they have to continue signing up people. Whenever people no longer sign up, then all of the people at the bottom of the pyramid will lose their money. So even if you can get into a pyramid scheme like this before it collapses, and make money off of signing people up under you, when it does fail, most of the money that you made would have been taken from those under you, and they would lose it. For ethical and moral reasons, I would not want to take other people’s money, knowing that sooner or later the money I make will be lost by someone down the line.
If you are still not convinced that this is not a legitimate business, the North Dakota attorney general issued a cease and desist order against FHTM in December (it has since been lifted).
Update: News Coverage of the Cease and Desist order in Montana available here (thanks to comment below for this info)
Update 2: You can read the Temporary Cease and Desist Order here. It is lengthy, but has a lot of very relevant information.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Rod if you would have read the memorandum on FHTM website that’s been taken over by a receiver “Robb Evans and Associates”, you would know all of what you said is incorrect. Also read up on the recently uncovered court papers on Scribd. FTC started their investigation 2 years ago. They ordered a subpoena when they were shut down in Montana March of 2010 and started their investigation. Then about a year ago they put FHTM on the “Operation Empty Promises” list to warn and protect consumers. That is what the FTC and Attorney Generals are there for…. to protect consumers. They represent “We the people” through tax dollars. Once they gathered enough evidence they shut the company down Jan. 28 2013.
“The FTC does not move with such force and deliberation against a company unless it has clear and convincing evidence of wrongdoing.”
“Dr. Peter Vander Nat, examined FHTM’s financial data and determined that at least 88% of the compensation paid by FHTM is in the form of recruitment bonuses, not sales-based commissions. Furthermore, most recruits will never recoup their investments in FHTM. Conservatively, at least 90% of FHTM participants earn nothing through FHTM, and 94% of recruits drop out within a year. In fact, this massive loss rate is the inevitable mathematical consequence of FHTM’s business model. If the more than a minuscule number of recruits were able to achieve the results touted by FHTM, the bonuses could never be paid and the company would quickly collapse. FHTM’s mission is to enroll ever more victims and replace them as they suffer losses and quit the program. It’s a rigged game.”
What reps don’t seem to understand is that you are not selling products, but buying them for yourself in order to qualify to earn the bonus checks.
“To participate in the scheme, consumers paid annual fees ranging from $100 to $300. To qualify for sales commissions and recruiting bonuses, they had to pay an extra $130 to $400 per month and agree to a continuity plan that billed them monthly for products unless they canceled the plan. Those who signed up more consumers and maintained certain sales levels could earn promotions and greater compensation, but contrary to FHTM’s claims, the complaint alleged, its compensation plan ensured that, at any given time, most participants would spend more money than they would earn.
You said “People always hear what the want to hear and miss the part about having to work hard, be honest and sell the products the business has to offer. Instead they simply blame someone else for the lack of effort they are willing to put forth. “
…..and that is why FTC Steve Baker said this:
“I got a word to the people who are currently signed up with FHTM. We believe you’ve been victims of a rigged game. Many of you have dropped out and probably concluded that you didn’t work hard enough, that you didn’t try hard enough, but that most people were doing pretty well with FHTM….that’s not true.” No matter how hard you worked of have worked, there is very little chance that people can break even. In fact you people are doing the best, but the plan is setup so that 96% of the people must lose money to keep this whole enterprise functioning. FHTM knows that, they set the company up to produce those results.” FTC midwest director Steve Baker found on Youtube 13 min video: "Attorney General Conway & FTC Announce Legal Action against Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing"
FHTM didn’t have “the deepest pockets.” According to recent court doc. FHTM revenue dropped from $66 million in 2010 to $28 million in 2012.
“This is the beginning of the end for one of the most prolific pyramid schemes operating in North America, ” Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway said.
The federal government has no place in its demolition of small business for MLM companies. If you are supposed to be gone you will be gone. Simple as that. People can say what they want now and feel vindicated, but the sad truth of this is simple. Everyone who complains says "They promised me this, or told me I would make that". People always hear what the want to hear and miss the part about having to work hard, be honest and sell the products the business has to offer. Instead they simply blame someone else for the lack of effort they are willing to put forth. The same reasons people and companies failed 50 years ago are the same reasons they fail today. MLM companies are easy targets and the media, the government and people who speak half truths take advantage of it. I am not saying that some representatives are not made up of the same society that grows common criminals and don't do some self serving adjustments to what the companies have given them to work with. When it is all said and done, the MLM companies suffer the wrath and not the idiots who really cause the problem and should really be prosecuted. You know what lawyers say about going for the ones with the deepest pockets.
The FTC in conjunction with the AG's from Illinois, North Carolina and FHTM's home state of Kentucky shut them down permanently on January 28, 2013. All employees sent walking and all assets frozen of corporation as well as Orberson & Mills.
FHTM is legal in all 50 states and in several other countries as well. The legal department is mainly made up with former State Attorney generals, and one lady who was the assistant Attorney for the Regan administration. FHTM is no different than any other company out there. Their reps are simply that indepent reps who should follow Fortunes code of ethics. Put simply, people are people. Most act responsibly while some do not and that is true in any business in the world. For my part everything has been as it should be and for my partners as well. Fortune is a vehicle can set you and your family free from the prison of punching clocks for minimal pay, having to ask off for you childs doctors appointment and worse. How does it feel to be owned by a company? I remember and it was not good. Believe what you want, but if you are willing to work Forune is willing to pay you well and pay you what you have earned. Earned being the key term.
Judy Hammerschmidt - ex Paul Orberson confidante is off the FHTM payroll. The crap finally hit the fan as she is caught searching for new employment this week. Isnt she old enough for Social Security and retirement? I guess donating your life to FHTM proves to be fatal for everyone.
PS. The drunken gambler Jon Johnson is gone too. Hooray
FHTM relieves Judy Hammerschmidt of her General Counsel duties!
What a shocker. As of February 2011 Ms. Hammerschmidt is no longer listed as the FHTM General Counsel, or an attorney associated with FHTM, on their website www.fhtm.net .
According to the Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing website, Ms. Hammerschmidt has been replaced by attorney the new General Counsel Mr. Keith Kuder.
“In February of 2011, FHTM welcomed its new General Counsel, Keith U. Kuder. Keith brings a wealth of knowledge and experience obtained during an 18-year career as a judicial clerk, law firm litigator and in-house attorney. In 1990, Keith graduated from the University of Virginia, Phi Beta Kappa. He completed the University of Virginia School of Law, Order of the Coif, in 1993. Today, Keith heads up FHTM's continuing efforts to remain a world-class organization”, quotes Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing.
Why did this happen? Maybe it is because all of the lawsuits and AG investigations under her loyal watch became overwhelming. Who really knows the truth?
IT looks like FHTM has problems with DuPont as they just notified all IR's to cease and desist using the DuPont logo (no relationship exists) and DuPont has REVOKED all right that FHTM assumed they had. No partnership. Who will be next. This is hilarious how FHTM blames it on the reps again instead of their own arrogance and lies.
Why doesnt FHTM offer Peter Lamas, GE, DuPont, Travelocity, Trot Hop or BSP Rewards Mall any longer? All of those companies have seen what FHTM really is and ran as fast as they could.
You must be a total [censor] to bash those who bring out the truth about FHTM by telling everyone the same rhetoric as all of the other clones do - you were lazy - you didnt work - you arent successfull.
Do you have any clue as to what you are talking about? What did you do before FHTM? How broke and unemployed were you?
The reason the products keep changing is because companies decide they NO LONGER WANT TO BE AFFILIATED WITH AN ILLEGAL PYRAMID SCHEME and their reputations mean more than that all of the NON-LOYAL customers.
A 2nd class action lawsuit was recently filed (12/22/10) in California against this pyramid scheme. Could everyone be lazy and wrong about this opportunity of a lifetime? I highly doubt it. www.fhtmclassaction.info for the entire lawsuit text
pay
I worked hard and FHTM has cheated me out of my pay!
But I still believe in Direct Marketing!
I just have to say that it is no surprize that there are people out there who cant handle working a program that truly offers a way to make an income that will surpass what anyone would pay you in a traditional job. Most people I meet that think this or any other program is a scam is because you actually have to work! These are the same people who make less that $10 an hour, take long lunch hours, cheat there boss of the time that they get paid, call in sick and will never do anything to go forward in there lives. They will instead sit at there desk and dream of getting married to someone who will make tons of money and save them from there poor pittiful lives. Well That truly NEVER Happens!
Every business needs customers, every business has the right to pay those who do more for them, they also have every right to market products Via through go getters so they will not have to pay people to sit on there ###'s and not do anything for the company just so they can have a pay check. I have got news for everyone, direct marketing is our future! Companies can no longer afford to pay idiots to work for them with all of the health care bull and tax problems. This is truly the way for those who want to have a real pay check coming in and have a life to go share. I have lost more money in the stock market this year than I care to share!.
If you think that joining a company and sitting on your butt to see if it works is how to measure its value then I would imagine you are the same people who ownes an exercise video and equipment and thinks that watching it sit in the corner is how to loose weight!
Nothing in life happens without getting off of your butts and making it happen!
So the truth for all of you who have nothing better to do that to ### about the truth as to why you did not make money which is you just did not put out any effort, is to get off of your missinformed butts and see that you are truly the problem, not the company.
However this is not the case with FHTM! When I saw FHTM I looked into it and decided to join. After working my butt off and bringing them over 900 new customers I have yet to be paid! I have turned them over to the authorities and hope to get this resolved. I encourage everyone not to do business with them.
I since then have moved over to another company that I am very happy with and are paying me ontime as I should be. However it does not help that I am over $40, 000 short of pay this year due to this company FHTM.
I know how to build a business and have brought this company alot of money. I just want to get what was promised to be my pay. This company has given good marketing companies a really bad name and that is not fair. I am not a member of AMway but they own a football stadium now and no one that goes there thinks it is a scam!
Thank God I had a chance to move to another company before I lost everything!
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The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Joseph Isaacs has not been idle. He has several new programs working the system. He is the chief adviser for TelexFree filings by state for VoiP applications so TelexFree could be a phone service provider. The Ma AG already and Homeland Security already closed their offices down. If you need to know more google Joe and TelexFree. He also has ventured into home renovations in Florida via SmartandHandyrenos.com where he provides comments about the work as other people. Not sure is Barbara Bushe is still hanging with him but time will tell. Sales of Skapegoat Something Bad Happened on the Way to the Toilet have not been promising.
Paul Orberson and Tom Mills banned from MLM and any other business venture by the FTC and as a result of the stipulated injunction. All Orberson assets frozen and under confiscation order including funds held overseas. How does it feel to be broke Paul?
Bankalchemist has been sued in Federal court for slander and LOST! He is an unemployed midget fudge packer with nothing better to do in life but to harass Isaacs and his memoir. Go f**k yourself
Barbara Bushe and SKAPEGOAT seem to be one in the same bloggers. Is that so Joseph? Barbara's bush must be getting old by now. Anyway the fantasy and fairytale continues with the Memoirs by SKAPEGOAT. definitely a conflicting tale.
MLM fraud whistle-blower Joseph Isaacs, who was made famous by exposing the Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM) pyramid scheme and fraud back in 2010, has just released his memoir titled, “Skapegoat the FHTM Blame Game Story”. It is available via Amazon for the Kindle, via Barnes and Noble for the Nook and also in paperback through Create Space.
(www.joseph-isaacs.com)
This compelling, true and personal, story is about a successful semi-retired 30+ year entrepreneur that turned whistle-blower after getting involved with an illegal Ponzi style MLM called Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing (FHTM) in 2009. Top FHTM leaders and its founder Paul Orberson tried to destroy his life after he developed a FREE Facebook style tool-set for the industry. Subsequent to FHTM receiving their 2nd cease and desist from Montana, he filed a complaint with the Kentucky BBB explaining their fraudulent ways, in an effort to get reimbursement for unwanted inventory. Shortly thereafter they make him the global scapegoat for everything bad happening to FHTM.
Mr. Isaacs was hit with a frivolous lawsuit claiming trademark violation for marks they never owned. The “fortune mark” is owned by Time, Inc. and FHTM was under an order to stop using it themselves. This was a foolish attempt to gag him and stifle his "Freedom of Speech" rights to prevent FHTM from being further branded as an "Illegal Pyramid Scheme". The stress of the harassing litigation caused multiple life-threatening heart attacks. Mr. Isaacs almost died in 2011 from the heart issues caused by FHTM. This story will keep you mesmerized by the deceit, sexual harassment, lies, judicial manipulation, influence peddling and the drama that unfolds over the next couple of years.
His campaign for truth-telling finally bears fruit when FHTM was shut down on the morning of January 28th, 2013 when the FTC and Kentucky AG raided the Fortune Hi-Tech Marketing corporate offices in Lexington, Kentucky. Employees were sent walking and all files were confiscated. Northern District of Illinois Federal Judge Darrah issues a temporary restraining order. Receiver Rob Evans and Associates was appointed.
"This is the beginning of the end for one of the most prolific pyramid schemes operating in North America, " Kentucky Attorney General Jack Conway said. "This is a classic pyramid scheme in every sense of the word. The vast majority of people, more than 90 percent, who bought in to FHTM lost their money."
Darla Digrandi leaves FHTM because nobody including the Presidential Ambassadors are LOSING money big time. The December 2012 PA bonus was a crappy $1, 400 each. In 2009 that bonus was in excess of 100K each. It looks like the inner sanctum is falling apart. When Darla left FHTM a few weeks ago to go to Veema she was joined by PA Scott Aguilar and over 1, 000 ESM's. FHTM then took the liberty to re-code her team to the shyster Tom Wagoner. Compression is not supposed to exist. The inner sanctum have ther own rules. Everyone else gets ###ed.
To jcamm u are a god damn ### and a liar. The fact that you say you spent money on the "open" meetings shows you that you fail at life and at lying. If they are open then how did you lose money from them.
I work hard for fhtm for 2 years, the only money i make was $35 dollars for over 200 peoples end i spend $8899 +my time+money for the gas + money for the magazines plus buy a bunch of Cds.Audio end Videos plus the money for the Open mttings plus the Money for the Seminars Plus the Money for the Combentions i lost to much just for the 35 dollars Paychek Open your Eyes guys...
the Latinos comunity are the people lost more money in FHTM because the lied Peoples they call them seolfts (LIDERES)
YOU ARE JUST DECEIVING MORE AND MORE OF YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY!
Wake up and smell the deception! FHTM is collecting millions and disbursing a mere pittance. As to top tier companies aligned with FHTM that’s crap! Validate your information, I went back and carefully listened to the video by Joel McNitch and others talking about FHTM and noticed they are VERY precise in their selection of words and terms. Name recognition is a key point in their presentation. During their scripted presentation they ask if you’ve heard of a company called Home Depot, of course you have, then they go on to say “How would you like to get paid for shopping there?” but they do not say they are partnered with them, (because they are NOT) they talk about their partnership with a company called BSP then they pop up a sign with Home Depot, Macy’s, Best Buy and Chili’s. This is a true representation of BSP rewards, NOT FHTM. But the allure of making a few thousand (or at least that’s what you’re lead to believe) is just too much. Open your eyes, I’m sure you believed you could make tons of money and you've enlisted the help of family and friends to accomplish this. Now you can't go back and tell them you were wrong. This company is NOT here to help you they are here to exploit you!
Scam
Myself and a very good friend of mine were talked into signing up for FHTM Canada on the good word of a close friend of mine who was suppose to be our "Sponsor", the only thing is that I found out that she wasn't a very good friend at all, she only had $$$$$ signs in her eyes. Needless to say we unwittingly signed up and had our friends and family sign up only to be left in the dust, scratching our heads saying "what just happened here"? Why isn't anything happening to our team, when we were promised time after time by our "Sponsor" that she would indeed work with us to build our team and told the elderly ladies that she would "build their team for them" NOT TO WORRY. When we started questioning our "Sponsor" she left town never to be seen again, isn't that interesting? Anyway we all ended up dropping out of this great business after never receiving any type of guidance only empty promises and lies. By the way if you are a FHTM Rep in Canada, there isn't a head office in Canada even though they lead you to believe this. And please make sure you read the 35 page policy manual especially the fine print (Scary). We are in the process of trying to recoup some of our losses with FHTM as we feel we mislead our friends and family as they trusted us and we let them down.
Well Mr. Private Investigator, you obviously don't have much of a reputation to put it on the line for FHTM...sorry for your bad luck. FYI, as soon as I said I was going to the media..boom there were the checks coming back in the mail for myself and everyone that signed up under me. Explain that one to me Mr. P.I. Anyway I could care less about FHTM or anyone that has anything to do with it, they are a pyramid scam and there is NO DOUBT ABOUT IT! Have fun with your company:)
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I joined this company a little over a month ago. I have been trying to cancel since a week after I got in and sent email after email and couldn't get anyone to respond I also tried by phone to get ahold of person that sold it to me to no avail. I got an email 3 weeks later saying that I would have to call corporate office to cancel. I called corporate office and told them that I have been trying to cancel since a week after I got in and could'nt get any response. He said I can cancel it for you but you can't get your money back you only have 10 days to cancel. I told him that I didn't not see any time limit about canceling on the paperwork that I signed and he said again that I only had 10 days to cancel and get my money back. He told me he could cancel it for me but I couldn't get my money back. I told him to cancel it and I had a lawyer and he cut me off and said that if I had a lawyer he couldn't talk to me anymore and HUNG UP THE PHONE ON ME! I got ahold of my lawyer and he has sent them a letter but in the meantime I wrote 3 cancelation emails to the company and the one verbal on the phone and it was way before the dues were due this month and guess what they took money out of my bank account this month too after all the cancelation emails and phone calls. this is a scam they took my money and told me nothing about the company. When I tried to add my bills through the website I couldn't do it and I called corporate office before all the cancelation emails and asked why I couldn' t add my bills on and I was informed by corporate office if you already had the bill you would have to cancel the bill for 6 months before you could add it to your website to make money. I was told by their REPRESENTATIVE that I could add my bills if I already had them I was asking about my phone as it is vontage and I asked him if they had vontage and he said oh yea we have that and that was another lie
These doucebags have been shut down by the FTC and soon Orberson & Mills will be heading to the federal pen.
In a way the idea is good
But i find it too expensive to run and not everyone need those services; so it is kind of restrictive.
You are kind of constrained to use only the services on the website, instead of going out in the market and look for a lower competitive price
And the only way you get money is through recruitment. You get back about a dollar from the monthly service bill
Also the training is about nagging you friends...instead of looking for a target market
The only way to make money is to look for higher income individual that can keep up with the additional fees
And it is also difficult to sell
I find it cheaper to go straight to the market and not get anything back..
than to spend $50 more to get a dollar back
If you like this...go for it
But don't join because of money alone...
Business is all about service and helping people solve problems. If you don't learn that, it will be difficult to succeed
So ask yourself why you are interested...and make sure it's your passion
There are a lot of mlm out today...do your search
wow @trust no one do your homework@
Im sorry to hear that you have had such bad luck. I know in my group We NEVER say it costs nothing. whenever i bring someone into the company, i tell them the costs upfront but i also tell them the benefits. IF they dont even recruit anyone, they get tax discounts that are good on their own. 100% off of cell phone bill. my phone bill wax about 90 a month with tax. over a year thats 180 less in taxes and then 50% off meals where the business is discussed, flights and gas.
What i did was bought daily contacts that came to 31 dollars a month. i spend more than that normally and then taxbot.
with tax write offs i got an extra 800 dollars back at the end of the year
299+20(taxbot)*12= 539.
I dont take the contacts into account because i buy them already but to each his own. ANYWAYS. without recruiting or selling you make a very small but worth it profit. I feel bad for all the people that fail and quit. Perhaps they dont have an as supportive group as me, but if you think you can just give someone money and expect them to make it work for you, you are sadly mistaken.
Besides it being a pyramid scheme! The Thing that pisses me off is, they tell you to watch a webaneer/video and the entire thing says it cost YOU nothing. Pay nothing . But then you go to the become a Representative and you have to give all your personal info before you can read the Representative's contract which( if you don't read it screws you over) it then states you have to buy a starter kit and purchases ALL the products you wish to sell and you will get reimbursed from the company once the person you sell it too makes a payment.. If I was going to buy the products before hand then I sure as hell don't need them to hold them for me..I could go to the store buy the item and then turn around and sell it to the interested party at 2% increase in retail price and make my own commissions! IT"s A BULL ### Business and these kinds of places need to be taken out of business..they take advantage of people trying to survive and more of them pop up everyday because our country's economy is so crappy..They are vultures Praying on people who are afraid because they've lost their jobs etc..
"Your job is a pyramid. Look at your President, Vice President, Upper management, Lower management, your supervisor all the way down to the workers. Where do you fall in that cast of characters? If you think about it every single thing in life is network marketing. Put it this way the food you ate this morning was grown by a farmer. He priced it up and sold it to a wholesaler. He marked it up and sold it to a national retailer. He sold it to National wholesaler retailer. They shipped it to your city. They put it in the warehouse and marked it up some more. The warehouse marked it up some more and put it in local stores. The local stores marked it up and you came along and bought that steak or fruit or whatever you had for lunch or for dinner. It’s been sold 8 or 9 times before it hit your juicy lips. And you have enough nerve to call this a pyramid deal"
Sorry, this is the oldest MLM / pyramid scam line in the book. You talk about being brainwashed and not to believe everything you read, and yet here you are being brainwashed and believing everything you hear & read from FHTM. I've heard this exact same thing 25 yrs ago with Amway, another one called World Wide ?Dreambuilders? that was a mix of Amway, and what sounds a lot like this FHTM, doesn't matter, they ALL say this exact same thing. Make money by using products and/or services you already use, "own" your own business, be your "own" boss, and make "own" hours. These are key phrases EVERY SINGLE MLM company uses. You still need to put in the time and effort to make the money. The more time & effort you put into it, the more money you will make... true. You will be working the exact same hours as your "regular" job, maybe even more, and no guarantee of making the exact same salary as you once earned with a "regular" job, especially if you suck at it. Let's face it, this is NOT for everyone. I knew someone in Amway who always said "Some will, some won't, so what". But then would go on & on about how great he was because he did, and how stupid were those who didn't sign up. Bully tactic? I think so. The "some" of us that "won't" don't see it that way. I'll bet there are those in FHTM who say the exact same thing, maybe even the same guy, LOL! And if you are looking to open up your evenings & weekends so you have more free time with your family, forget it. Evenings & weekends are when all the seminars & meetings are. Also, those who will take the time to listen to you will only do so on evenings & weekends. Sorry, but I don't want to spend my whole entire day cold-calling, and spend my whole entire evening recruiting and my weekend at seminars. It's not for me, and that's fine by me, I don't see it as being brainwashed or being stupid passing up an opportunity. And if you like what you see & hear & go for it, then please, do not have that crap "holier than thou" attitude, just be happy in your own choice.
Since my last post, Texas forced FHTM to pay $1.5 million in refunds to consumers back in November and another $200, 000 to Texas A.G. for attorney fees, expenses and investigative cost . What is up with all these States FHTM was in trouble with? That makes three States FHTM had to pay up for allegations that it was operating like an illegal pyramid scheme. Each time FHTM's hands are forced to change the design of their pay-plan and marketing methods. Montana was a real eye opener on the truth. If things wasn't bad enough with State investigations, the FTC still has FHTM on their list called Operation Empty Promises. Then North Carolina Attorney General has an investigation ongoing. I don't know about you all, but there is way too many red flags, enough red flags to warn consumers to hold on to their money and friends. There are still two pending class action lawsuits and an individual lawsuit. The class action lawsuits consist of several consumers from different States who feel FHTM is a pyramid scheme and that FHTM has lied about many things, all which is available to read online for free. I highly encourage someone doing their research to read the class action lawsuits to know the truth. The individual lawsuit is about someone who was terminated because they was involved in another MLM to make money from home. The income they was making in FHTM went down, like it has for so many involved. Again, that lawsuit is online free to read as well. In fact you can find all the troubles FHTM is in at http://www.fhtmscamnews.com/ All the info on that site are linked to reliable sources. You can also view some videos on that site. Also review FHTM's income disclosure statement. It will show that 95% of those will make far less than someone who could be working a second job making below minimum wage. The IDS excludes the 30% that made nothing with FHTM and the months reps didn't earn a check. Talk about trying to hide the facts. They don't want you to know what the real numbers are, they don't even include the actual number of reps for each level. What are they hiding? Red Flag!
FHTM is a network company like any company ex. Monavie, isagenix, Mary Kay etc.
There is no guarantee success in the company it is solely by an individual's effort is how you will see the results. Just like one buying a gym pass isn't guaranteed too see results it is all done solely by the individual. A student in school isn't guaranteed to be an honor student it is solely done by the individual's efforts. Network marketing I s the way to go but isn't for everyone. FHTM has beat the 10 year mark and is growing more then ever. I am sorry if you did not see the results you wanted and feel the need to call it a scam. No business grows over night and hope you all know that.
It appears to me that the world is filled with negative, pessimistic and nagging people who make up the majority (97%) of the population today who complain, nag and whine and have critical things to say in tearing down the credibility of businesses in the MLM industry and then profess to speak the “Truth”. Opinions that are visibly bias are never truth. It’s preposterous to think that such post and comments hold any validity of truth whatsoever. What is obvious to me in reading through ALL of the post on this site as there are many is that those who FAILED with FHTM and are ex representatives of the company who hold a grudge now because of their apparent failure, have found a place to vent their anger. People ARE succeeding with FHTM whether others failed, got scammed, lost out, and whatever EXCUSE people have accepted and convinced themselves to believe. If people are succeeding and others failed, it’s time to look in the mirror and realize who didn’t have what it took to make it. People blame the weather, the government, their spouse, their boss, their neighbor, their relatives, ANYTHING but themselves! In a world filled with an entitlement mentality, it amazes me that irregardless of what company you Google online, there is ALWAYS naysayers and sites like this filled with people who blame companies and others for their lack of success. Self Responsibility is a dying trend in this world. Blaming others is the only way for people to apparently feel good about themselves. But technically if anyone is ever scammed in dealing with any opportunity, it simply means they were not smart enough to diligently pick something they could succeed at knowing the cost (sweat equity) involved. No one complains because they didn’t hit the lotto and their numbers were duds, ROTFL…. Why not post about how the State Lottery is a scam and took your money? The cashier who suggested you play the Lucky 3 and used persuasion in up-selling you to buy more tickets, why not post about him/her? It is just ridiculous. I am NOT an FHTM rep, but I do when reading and researching things online love a real site that speaks the truth and this is not one of them. Seems to me that if people spent as much time in building their business a they do writing such nonsense, they “might” have succeeded after all. This PROBABLY won’t get approved. Go figure ;-)
I could not help but notice that in all of the pictures from the convention that it was not held at a convention center like last year but a large rented room at a nice hotel. I saw bleachers set up for people to sit in. I am sure this was done to show people if you dont want to sit here in pain next year and sit with us on in the priviledged area you need to promote. While that might be motivation for some, I would have been very upset that this was promoted as the largest and best and then find out it was not. From what I can tell everyone the person that I know could not tell me much other than" will be getting soon stuff", I know people heard the same thing last year and the coffee company and other stuff never happened. Actually it looked like Paul's girlfriend, Woodson Garner has taken over and it should be called the all about "Woodson and FHTM show"
I feel for all of those who are in FHTM. It is way to hard to stand up for them as a rep when everytime you turn around the negative press and the legal problems are just way to hard to overcome.
I see where Trey Knight ( pres Ambasador) and several other big named people have left. Now why would you leave FHTM if you were making the big bucks to start over with another company? I think the answer is clear..FHTM is not going to be around for the long haul as expected and no one can afford to bank on a company that is continually being found to be lying and getting in trouble with the goverment. 3 Lawsuits have been filed and more I heard are coming. The one filed in Texas by Suzzanne Combs sounds like exactly what happened to the lady in Texas who lost everything while waiting to get paid from the team she had built and then found out the team had been stolen!. They cheated her out of over 100K I heard. The company has been found to move people out of downlines and cheating people out fo their due pay. The lawfirm who is handling this case is huge and they only take the best of cases. This maybe the one that takes Paul and his team of liars down.
I dare any of the people who have been posting on here for the last 3-4 years about how wonderful FHTM is and tell us the truth about what you made in bonuses and what you made in residual. I bet not one of you can say you are still with the company and that your income from residuals is greater than what you are making ( or have made) in Bonuses resulting from sign ups.
I look forward to hearing from everyone so we can finally see the truth.
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