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This breeders goes around the internet bashing other breeders! He has forum ( strictly bull terriers ) related to his website that he uses to put other people down!
The above is just the beginning of his unprofessionalism he continues to sell dogs and restrict people's paperwork by limiting it and/or demanding to be listed as co-owner on his AKC registry forms it's besides me why a breeder would charge over $1, 000 for a puppy and want to still own it
Furthermore, he claims to be protecting his Bloodlines but if that was the case he wouldn't be breeding dogs at all & not to mention he sells sick dogs
Dont be fooled by this breeders manipulative ways hes a scam that drags other people down but in all reality he's the problem
UPDATE TO THIS COMPLAINT : bulliesofnc.com/Steve Gogulski is now stealing people posts on facebook to use them to attest validation to his false claims about breeders hes bashing on his forum ( stickly bull terriers) and probably with countless other third party sources online. What hes failing to tell everyone is the post attached below was from a lady that called him out on his forum (strictly bull terriers facebook). For all of you that dont know this business has 2 forums under the same name the only difference is one is on facebook and the other is not. After the lady ( Susan) called him out in the attachment below, she was blocked from the forum & then he proceeded to seek her facebook as a target to use any valid post he could to validate his claims about the breeders he has continued to stock endlessly. When I get a chance to find Susan on facebook I will notify her on this matter. The attachment is a post she made at a random person not the breeders he claiming are involved
DONT BE FOOLED! HES A CON ARTIST! ALSO DONT BE SURPRISED IF YOU GOOGLE THE SOURCE AND SEE ITS BEEN REMOVED.
Susans post he stole from Facebook! That has nothing to do with him or his claims.
Here's proof to the services that bulliesofnc.com offers aside from their breeding program! It seems pretty innocent to most customers looking at it but it sounds pretty hypocritical of them to be pointing fingers at all these breeders they talk crap about saying all of them are" in it for the money" when bulliesofnc offers every service possible to make a quick buck! Iv been telling him hes a liability to his business for a while now! This business brings in random dogs onto their property which is a risk to all their breeding stock and puppies they sell! They also co-own dogs they are never gunna see again & are offering chilled semen to the public when they know its no qurenntee a dog will get pregnant from it! Lets also mention they are third party breeders! With Steve's big mouth hes bringing his business partners down with him!
So I didn't really want to keep adding to this complaint but unfortunately people are that jealous (Dinobullterriers)
As long as Steve's forum STRICTLY BULL TERRIERS keeps getting up loaded with fraudulent information by people that choose spread lies on that forum everything will be documented on here and by the looks of it this complaint is only going to get longer as long as that forum is up.
So I got an instant message on facebook in late August 2018 for a puppy inquiry. The lady was an entitled individual by the name of Kayla Williams. I get a lot of these customers that tend to take hours of my time asking questions but never end up buying so I'm pretty familiar with what I like to call (Time wasters). Anyway I invested 2 hrs with this lady Kayla Williams and at the end of it all she collected my payment information but never bought a single thing. I warned her in the beginning of our conversation that if she still needed to talk to her husband to go talk to him before I started investing more time. I don't think she cared because she continued to go on and on asking questions when in fact she had not even cleared it by her spouse. Being in this business for so long I'm pretty aware of the (let me talk to my spouse excuse) after hearing the cost of the dog most of the time it ends there. Kayla W took this conversation to a whole new level stringing me along when that time could have been spent with my animals. After getting the run around with her I told her to " Go find another breeder" I then blocked her from social media so I never had to deal with her again. This inferated Kayla W to the point she ran to bulliesofnc forum that he wrote about me and proceeded to go on a rant on how I didn't sell her a dog. Doesn't this sound like some kind of set up or what? I'm thinking it was a team up attempt to cause more trouble. What a lot of people fail to understand about this forum is its actually brought me more sales and business then it was initially intended for. It's awesome because with most of Steves inquiries trying to dodge his " Co-ownership contracts" it has them coming to me for real genuine business. In fact I sold to a lady this year that told me Steve @bulliesofnc ran off with her holding deposit and called her one day saying he was going to sell her dog to another person for more money. Now back to Kayla Williams! After this lady went on a rant on his forum as if that was not enough for her. Two days later being the FRAUD she is she follows by Bulliesofnc's example and generates fake content to valide her rant from 2 days ago. She proceeds to claim one bad review that came in on her facebook page was me writing it. She goes to the extent once again to take a fraudulent screenshot by going to the HTTPs link in the search bar and backspacing the original profile holders name out and inserts my name in. Then she goes on to take a screenshot of the search engine link to make it look real. This why I think this was all a setup because as you can see from all the attachments on this complaint Steve is good and making fake content. After further investigation on Kayla W I discovered her business that the customer left a bad review on! She is the so called owner of DESIGN MY DOG .COM She basically has some artist draw her work for screen prints and another person ship it. After reading her website all the pieces to the puzzle started falling together. She continues to talk about passion and commitment for animals on her website when the truth is she profiting off of work she don't even draw herself much less ship LOL. If her artist ever left her business everything stops until she hires a new one LOL. This lady was drilling me with question for 2hrs probably because she lives by how she thinks of other people. She knows her business is nothing more than an idea piggy backing off of another person's talent so she treated me as if my business was ran the same way LOL. POOR POOR THING. With all this being said i'll post some attachments here for further validation.
After further research on this Kayla Williams lady my assumption of her and bulliesofnc(Steve) teaming up to bully me online was just concluded to be true. I had mentioned in my last update that I thought the two may have set me up! Well sure enough there she is on his waiting list for a puppy. The date is exactly around the same time she contacted pretending to be a customer. She later ran to his forum with any information she could to continue updating his forum. She later contacted him begging him to remove the comments she put on his forum because she couldn't and all he did was add them to his respond as some kind of proof lol. She messaged me frustrated that he didn't remove stuff but yet shes on his waiting list like a two faced snake. I do have all the text messages from her for anyone that wants to see them.
He also has his little groupies saying whatever they can just to hype up his forum discussion he made about my bussines. I texted Steve to try and put things to rest between us two but instead he never texted back and proceeded to update his forum with more made up junk. I have those text messages also. Attached above is Steves waiting list with Kayla Williams name on it. Keep in mind its been 2 years since this complaint was posted and he's still worried about me. I think he might me obsessed literally.
Attached are Steve's and Kayla Williams text messages. Kayla is frustrated Steve won't remove her comments from his forum and the other text message is me trying to be the mature one by trying to put things in the past but of course Steve never responded he rather run to his forum and upload more junk lol.
That puppy is only 2 weeks old in that picture. If blackbrindles are so common why dont have one yourself then? Anyone that has questions of what I genetic test for I will happily show them proof I have nothing to hide thats why Im still in business. I can't believe you said I live in an Apartment building LOL. How long did it take you to come up with that one? How the hell can someone breed and raise Bull Terriers in an apartment? That's not even possible even if I wanted to give it a try and eliminate property taxes I pay LOL. Your an old man compared to me. I don't need to go over what i've done with the breed or what im doing now with it to provide proof to peasant like you. Clearly Im still in business I must be doing something right. Dude where you live anyone can have land. The cost of living don't even compare to my life. Besides your place looks a mess. Is that a trailer you live in or a house? I can't tell the difference lol. Your house looks like its made out roofing material. Your wife's looks like you don't feed her all you see in your Youtube videos is her bony body. You should worry about feeding your wife instead of what you think about my dogs. The only place your lies are being entertained is on here and your forum. Just remember I have a one up on you with a BBB review I left on your Profile. I will pay your airfare so you can come say these things to my face?! Im one out very few females raising these dogs for a reason. You know why right? Because Im fearless. Some men tend to not do well with a women succeeding in a male dominated field. Most women can't control these dogs much less run a pack. BulliesofNC need an army to do this. Not me!
Steve is saying in he's last comment that theres nothing rare about blackbrindles EBTS but yet he says otherwise on he forum lol. Take a look of what I dug up from 2013 š Its pretty funny how much of a contradiction he is.
Hey Steve check your character! You talk about the money and greed of other breeders yet here you are flashing your Mercedes on social media. Under your decal advertisement. As if you selling chilled semen, kennling services, stud services, and having a puppy waiting list of #57 isn't enough. Your such a child dude trying to complete with your customers when they mention they have one themselves. How does a decal advertisement turn into a bragging session for you lol.
The ingenuous individual who thought it necessary to make attempts to slander us with fictitious statements is actually another Bull Terrier breeder from Albuquerque, NM with the kennel name āDino Bull Terriers.ā http://www.dinobullterriers.com/ The ābashingā of another kennel that they mention in their derogatory comments about us is actually in regard to an alert I put out against THEM to the Bull Terrier community in regard to their corruption, dishonesty, and unethical breeding practices. Here is the post which they are referencing in their complaint: http://www.bulliesofnc.com/BTforum/discussion/2671/dino-bull-terriers-caution-bad-breeder
For the possibility of anyone reading this that has an interest on what led up to the anger causing Dino Bull Terriers to be so disgruntle towards us this is what happened:
About a week ago I received a phone call from a young woman who was inquiring about purchasing a future puppy from us. Initially she was portraying herself as someone looking for an excellent quality Bull Terrier puppy as a loyal companion. However, she was quick to inquire about Full Registration on a puppy purchased from us. This is a question breeders are very interested in and although our website clearly depicts our policies I still explained to her that we welcome Full Registration but in order to prevent our bloodlines from being used inappropriately with future litters of their own we conduct co-ownership contracts. This enables us to ensure future breeding is conducted properly with the future welfare of the breed in mind. This is not a new concept or any sort of ploy to achieve further financial gain. Co-ownership is an extremely popular way in which breeders can protect their bloodlines from the unethical backyard breeders and puppymills who jeopardize the health and qualities within pure bred dogs. The American Kennel Club (AKC) as well as many international kennel clubs offer the abilities to conduct co-ownership on dogs from responsible breeders who care deeply about their puppies theyāve produced and want to ensure that arenāt used as backyard breeding machines. Co-ownership does not prevent the puppy owner from breeding their dog. However, if they plan on registering the litter it requires the signature of both owner and co-owner. With this said, unethical breeding practices such as breeding a female at 7 months old during her first heat cycle or breeding a female back to back during each and every heat cycle would not be accepted by the co-owner due to obvious reasons thus preventing an irresponsible breeder from their desire to breed inappropriately. Understanding how this works should provide anyone with a clear idea as to why backyard breeders, puppymills, and irresponsible breeders get very bitter that they can never receive a reputable pure bred dog with champion pedigree because all those dogs come from breeders that āprotectā their bloodlines from breeders like Dino Bull Terriers.
When the breeder from Dino Bull Terriers came to the realization that I was not going to blindly sell a puppy to her with Full Registration she became irate. It was at that time I did a quick google search of her phone number to see who I was conversing with. Sure enough the number led me right to a website link called āDino Bull Terriers.ā It became clear she wasnāt looking for a loving pet to adore, she was looking to add a quality Bull Terrier to her puppymill in order to warrant a higher price for her puppies due to known and reputable bloodlines coming from us. Her gig was over when I confronted her with her known identity and her kennel affiliation. It amazes me the deceitfulness of people and the lies they will tell while in pursuit to get their hands on a reputable puppy that they intend to mass breed for financial gain. Dino Bull Terriers learned quickly that we only offer our puppies to people we trust and to homes in which we know they will be provided the love and attention they deserve. Sadly, many breeders, like the originator of this complaint, will never understand the love and passion responsible breeders have with breeding with the proper intentions, ethics, and love.
For those wanting helpful insight on how to recognize and find reputable Bull Terrier breeders hereās an article I wrote a few years ago that many irresponsible breeders donāt want you to read: http://bulliesofnc.com/finding-reputable-bull-terrier-breeder/
I bought a dog from this company and they sold me a dog with a massive heart condition! I contacted Steve to redeem his two year health qurenntee since my dog passed away in the first year but all he did was give me excuses to why he couldn't refund my money. He told me that he wouldn't refund my money but he would give me another puppy from the next litter. I found this kinda odd as to why he would force another one of his puppies on me given the circumstances.The complaint above dont surprise me one bit.
WOW. Now this post took me by surprise. Now you have stooped to blatant lies.
Does it feel good to stick up for Dino Bull Terriers or are you actually Dino Bull Terriers with a fictitious login name?
You should be ashamed of yourself for lying in this manner. We have a signed legal contract for our health guarantee. Never have we had a puppy pass away from any form of genetic disorder. You are a phony!
Provide the AKC Registration number of the puppy you claim to have purchased from us or the Microchip # which all our puppies have. One good thing about this Complaint Group is that it provides the opportunity to attach photos and documents. Please entertain me with the AKC Registration of your Bull Terrier in which to claim that I reneged on our Health Guarantee. Your response will be a testimony of your honesty within your claim. Otherwise, I will note this to be another bogus comment written by Kayla from Dino Bull Terriers which I know it is. :)
Shame on you for attempting to slander through lies and deception!
You currently have it written on your website do i really needa say anymore then that!
Ha, you couldn't validate any of your claims. You were asked for the Registration # of the puppy you claimed to have died. Now stop lying Kayla and making up stories because you are mad that I exposed your unethical breeding practices. The entire Bull Terrier community is aware of the bad reputation you have with "Dino Bull Terriers."
His two year health guarantee is a joke its just another way to lure more customers in! Steve talks a good talk but definitely couldn't fool me! Hes nothing but entitled child that thinks everyone ows him something! All his reviews on his website are emails written by who knows who there's absolutely no display of integrity behind his customer reviews at all! Its really no surprise to me because Steve G provides phony things to validate his claims. Steve actually even thinks I took the time to write this statement! He claims hes liked by everyone! Hes failed to provide receipts and 3 generation certifications with all the breeders names he continues to talk crap about ! Sorry about your dog !
Proof!
Kayla, you're Busted. None of our puppies ever died of genetic disorder which is why you CAN'T provide the Registration # or Microchip #.
You're making yourself look bad and anyone with a brain in their head will easily note your failed attempt to slander. This whole discussion is from your bitterness towards me for exposing your unethical breeding practices which anyone can validate from a simple Google search of "Dino Bull Terriers."
Even your new screen name on this page (Texas 298) was just initiated today solely for the purpose to provide libel comments as if it were a new person. Who are trying to fool?
You seem very paranoid as you should be. I mean look at all the attachments above! I hope you had a nice time spending my money you never returned bye now!
LOL. You've been busted Kayla. Don't try and pretend as though you didn't see my request to validate your claim. You can't provide the AKC Reg # or Microchip # because you know I'll be quick to post the results of number you provide. So instead you have chosen to try and bypass a very simple request.
Grow up Kayla. The more you try and slander us you are only making yourself look worse than you already do. Do you not realize that even in the rarity of someone reading all this garbage you wrote if they are to conduct any form of research on DINO BULL TERRIERS they will be quick to see what kind of a person you are and the bad reputation you have as a breeder?
Yes, I made the Bull Terrier aware of your corruption but it's ALL valid which I can validate. You are to blame for this and you are a menace to the breed. Your efforts to slander us are frugal. Now go find something better to do with your time and PLEASE for the love of God quit your unethical breeding practices. Surely you could start breeding hermit crabs or something along those lines vice backyard breeding poor quality unhealthy Bull Terriers.
Donāt worry, Steve - anyone in this community with half a brain can see clearly that whomever is posting these slanderous accusations against you must have a seriously toxic mental state and/or a full blown narcissistic personality disorder.
Iām not even a customer (yet) but have spoken with you recently and am planning an upcoming purchase from you. I clicked this link just out of curiosity and I knew from the start it would be totally unwarranted harassment that might just get me a good laugh if nothing elseāthis girl did not disappoint.
To the originator of this threadāplease reconsider your behavior. What goes around will always come back around, and even if you had the best bred bull terrier in America, Iād still never in a million years think of ever buying one of your dogs. Pro-tipā constantly repeating and screenshooting someoneās breeder guarantees doesnāt prove that the breeder in question hasnāt upheld said guarantees. The tactics youāre utilizing here are known in the psychology community as gaslighting, which is a form of mental abuse. Youāre not very good at it though, which is the silver lining in this case.
This page was initiated by Kayla from Dino Bull Terriers and she will continue to post slander on it against BoNC every time she see's new evidence of corruption, bad breeding ethics, and ridicule posted about Dino Bull Terriers from me or anyone else heavily involved in the Bull Terrier breed.
I will not continue this back and forth childish online games that Kayla wishes to play.
All documentation about Dino Bull Terriers has been recorded here - http://www.bulliesofnc.com/BTforum/discussion/2671/dino-bull-terriers-caution-bad-breeder
Kayla may find it necessary to counter all claims against her which I have publicized but for anyone that wishes to receive validation on anything written I will happily provide it to them.
This post written by Kayla, responded to by Kayla under different login names, is simply the result of scorn that Dino Bull Terriers has against us for exposing her as a corrupt breeder who has earned enough complaints that warrant exposure to the public as a breeder to avoid.
Where's ur better business bureau review on them? I see you have one on your company! Anyone can write a forum with complete lies on it. This complaint has nothing but proof attached to it with a liable source like the BBB backing it up!So please stop generating fake content on breeders such as stolen posts that dont belong to your situation and making fake pictures! If your gunna make fake content about breeders your jealous of please provide valid proof from people that those pictures are theirs! Steve enough with the fake emails from so called people! Its as simple as making a fake email account and emailing yourself! Nothing on your forum that you post would ever hold up in court! You keep harassing these breeders but I will be their voice! Your tired of acting childish then stop! Go away already! Its not your place to tell people how they needa breed or raise their dogs! Steve I understand you want the last word in but im here to tell you you will not get your way this time until you stop what your doing to these breeders reputations! There are two sides to every story & this is the second side! Anytime you are asked about this is what they are gunna see! No one is "scorn" like you say either! Some people dont just sit back and take the beating ! We are all tired of you Steve! We tired of THIRD PARTY breeders like you trying to act like your INDEPENDENTLY owed! So who are you to speak on breeders that chose to promote their business on third party advertising when its worse to be a third party breeder! As a matter of fact multimillion-dollar businesses still use TV advertisement to promote their company! When people dont wanna do your co-ownership contracts and decline a sale from you just leave it like that dont go Google people's numbers trying to dig dirt! To everyone reading this complaint if any breeder can go to the extent to google someones number and harras them online for no reason please just be aware of their hidden agendas behind what they are trying to sell you! A genuine breeder doesn't go around complementing himself or herself to try and stay in the light! Its the humble breeders that think of both parties within a purchase and seek out mutual business that you should attract yourself too! As the complainer above has already expressed that Steves 2 year health guarantee is a con game just for the simple fact hes not willing to generate a refund but instead wants to stick you with another one of his dogs! Do you see what I mean by hidden agendas!? Anyways everyone keep up with this post as it will be used to create proof to all Steve lies!
Kayla, when are you going to grow up and quit your attempts to bad mouth us? Wake up already. Anyone reading this can easily see you are posting about us because you are bitter that we refused to sell you a puppy. If people were to visit your web page - Dino Bull Terriers, or actually visit your place they would be quick to figure you out. You won't even leave your name or contact info on your website because your name has been flagged by the Bull Terrier community as a breeder to avoid. All your scorn and bitterness towards us will never jeopardize the reputation we have gained through professionalism and the production of top quality Bull Terriers. We get far too many visitors here and we welcome people to meet with our family of Bull Terriers.
Your comment on BBB makes no sense because only people who have done business with you as a (new) breeder can submit a review. Yes, you provided a negative review on us because we refused you a puppy and went on a crusade to attempt to tarnish us because you were so upset. Try and understand something, it was YOU looking to receive a puppy from us. Never would I or anyone else ever wish to deal with a breeder like you. You have negative reviews on BBB and your kennel name has been brought up in a negative light on several occasions on social media. People are aware of the bad reputation Dino Bull Terriers has and they are certainly aware that your post here was done in malice. Now grow up and stop being a troll.
No one wants your co-owned dogs & no one is bitter either! Stop with your excuses Steve! I thought you were done with this whole internet back & forth situation? You act like you had puppies to sell when I called you much less have what I was looking for! I called so many breeders that day you were like the last one ! We never agreed on a dog in the 1st place! I wouldn't buy from you regardless because of the simple fact you want to co-own a dog you're not discounting ! What makes you think you can do that to people and think it's all cool! Do you pay half of the vet bills, food, housing for the dogs you co-own? Ya thats what I thought you don't! You can't
even cough up refunds for your 2 year health guarantee ! You are worried about yourself only in the sale of your puppies and no one else! What about the people that are paying the money huh what about them? Who are you to talk about unethical breeding when your milking the breeding business for all that it's worth! You offer chilled seamen, kennling services. stud services, & a breeding program! So tell me again who's in it for the money? You have been harassing me for almost a year now! Do you really think after that long of being harassed I'm supposed to sit back like its all good? You and I know it wouldn't have gotten to this point if you would have not gone on a stocking mission to bash my business that you don't have a clue about! How can you draw any conclusions about me or other breeders when you can't provide the proof to attest for your claims? The proof you're showing everyone is all made up material by you! How does someone get that desperate to try and tarnish someone's reputation that they generate fake material? This situation is bitter sweet for me! I'm actually kinda flattered that i'm that important to someone that claims to be breeding for the past 20 years ! With that being said, the BBB won't entertain your lies so that's why you don't have one there because believe me you would if you could! When you can provide receipts and a 3 generation certification with all the breeders names you talk crap about then you will have a case but until then you're just a person with a big mouth! You seem to have an excuse for everything! Whats next Steve? What fake stuff are you gunna come up with next?! You are a jealous competitor and nothing more to me or the other breeders you talk crap about!
bye loser!
I asked my breeder about Bullies of North Carolina. He replied he'd never heard of them and added this Steve fellow is not listed in the 2017 U. S. Bull Terrier club roster. I gather he researched this breeder since he opined Bullies of North Carolina appeared to be a puppy mill.
Bulliesofnc.com claims they need no introduction tho lol! They also claim they are the bull terrier breeders of their state! Bulliesofnc.com is good at complimenting themselves & putting every bull terrier breeder down in the process just for a sale! I'm glad i'm not the only one seeing they are corn balls! I know Steve at bulliesofnc.com is going to respond back like we are the ones with the problem but the truth is this complaint was years in the making! He won't share the link to this complaint on his forums because he only wants everyone to see one side of the story! My domain search was fine until I contacted him thru my business phone! Please everyone just call him restricted or something if your planning on giving this breeder the time of day!
Thanks for your feed back Ed !
Lol i was surfing the web and couldn't believe what i just read.
I live in san diego ca. I purchased a puppy from bullies of nc and couldn't be happier. My bullterrier turned a year old this month and she has no health issues whatsoever. When i first contacted steve inquiring about a puppy he was very helpful and full of knowledge. I let steve know from the get go on what intentions i had with this puppy and that i planned to breed her. Steve went over the co-ownership agreement with me and i couldn't agree more with how he looks after his bloodline. Furthermore i will be following in his footsteps by doing the same.
Attached is a picture of "justice" at 7 months. I know what your thinking, shes sexy huh...
@Kalisquad - Your Bull Terrier is gorgeous! It's disheartening there are people like Kayla from Dino Bull Terriers who are so bitter that they couldn't receive a puppy from us that they go on a crusade to attempt to discredit our name. This particular website allows for anyone to commit freely whether it be libel comments or reality which is a shame because it makes it fitting for people like Kayla to post bogus information. On a good note, those that are truly conducting research on Bull Terrier breeders and reputable bloodlines know who we are and are educated enough to stay clear of backyard breeders like Dino Bull Terriers.
Kayla,
I see you updated your complaint here on this bogus website that allows libels comments from any anonymous sources. Keep it going Kayla, it allows others to get a good prospective of your personality and character.
Ok, your new subject was on Kayla Williams. I realize you are disturbed to see she went from having an interest of purchasing a pup from you, to researching bloodlines and reputable breeders, to getting on our waiting list. Kayla lives many states away and I never met her. You commented as if we are friends and have initiated some ploy to belittle your name and kennel affiliation. LOL, that's crazy Kayla! You do an excellent job all on your own in creating a clear picture to others on your professionalism, ethics, pride, and experience as a breeder. Currently your name is being brought up all over social media due to the negative reputation you have earned.
You tried to bully Kayla with threats of writing negative reviews on her personal business unless she deleted the factual information she posted about you. How pathetic! She contacted me and told me the whole story and it was so predictable of your character. Shame on you! Get a life Kayla and realize there will always be people in this world undisturbed by fictitious statements against them. I am one of them and although you are highly pissed off that I exposed your unethical breeding practices and moral character just realize that I care more about helping other avoid YOU (Dino Bull Terriers) than I do about this ridiculous website that exists only through bogus slander allowed by anyone. Here's a couple screen shots of the truth in which you fail to admit.
Yikes! Please don't ever try and think for second that I'd ever compare our breeding practices and development to a breeder like yourself! You made me throw up a little in my mouth. NO Kayla, you will never be a reputable breeder until you recognize the importance of genetic testing, DNA's, Health Guarantees, Showing your bloodline (once you develop one), and testing your puppies. You have no concept what a BAER test, Echocardiogram (with Doppler), or blood panel tests for kidney disease is. Heck you don't even know what it feels like to achieve Best in Breed in an AKC show. Your only pride comes from conning someone into purchasing a pup from you from a person with no knowledge on the breed at all that thinks they are getting a decent pup based on your BS.
You didn't refuse Kayla Williams a puppy, she left you out in the cold with no intentions of ever pursuing a puppy from you. I realize you're mad about that but let's face it, there will always be far more people doing research on reputable breeders than there will be impulse buyers looking for whatever is available. All our puppies are spoken for before they are born due the consistent amount of people that join our waiting list. Yes, we advertise other breeders that carry our bloodline and follow our policies and ethics. These are breeders who have acquired puppies from us and carry the Bullies of NC bloodline which runs deep in this county. These breeders have actually been around far longer than you and abide by the policies and ethics that people expect and respect.
Kayla you hide your name and address from your website so people don't research you and realize you are breeding and raising dogs from an apartment building which you are renting. You're what everybody would consider a backyard breeder with no merit or reputation at all. You'll sell a pup to anyone that flashes $ in front of your face. Your puppies are over 2 months old before you can find homes for them even while you are paying AKC, puppyfind, and Hoobly to advertise for you. LOL. How in the world can you possibly even mention the fact that we have 60 people on our waiting list who have placed a deposit and patiently wait for the opportunity to receive a puppy from us as if that is a bad thing? Do you not get it? Stop sweating us already. Concentrate your energy on researching the things YOU need to do in order to produce a bloodline that has some sort of merit and reputation. Right now you're going in the opposite direction and combating us is only hurting you. We've been around while you were learning how to spell the words "Bull Terriers."
You listed your current litter of Black Brindles as "rare" and one day you'll laugh your [censored] off reading that because there's nothing rare at all about a Black Brindle and when experienced breeders take the time to read your advertisements it's done in humor and shame knowing you are struggling to express your pups in some sort of special way because you have no pedigree of excellence and your pups look like sick mini's that lack bone structure and conformation. Please Kayla, start studying the Breed Standards so you have a chance at improving your lines. Your productions have many worried about the future integrity of the breed due to others just like you blindly breeding with no knowledge or dogs worth breeding and do not compliment the breed. Attached is an example of one of your pups you call "Rare and Special". Please Kayla ...
Kayla,
Itās great to have confidence in yourself as a young lady that you are. However, I hope one day you wake up to the reality of what being strong really is. Your weaknesses emanate so clearly in your comments and make it very easy for others to assess your true character and heart by the ignorance in what you say. Itās easy to sense you are extremely bothered by the caution I projected to the public in regard to your breeding practices, integrity, and character. Letās face it, this long drawn out post on this non-credible website was conducted in retaliation for the straight forward truth I projected about Dino Bull Terriers. Youāve run out of libel comments to condor up and have now resorted to personal insults against my wife of 30+ years. I can assure that anybody who wasted the time to read this bogus complaint you left about us can read right through you and sense your true character. Sadly, you donāt have the mental capacity to even realize You are your worst enemy and the more you strive to condemn me as a breeder, who has already earned 2 decades of positive reputation throughout the Nation, the more you allow others to see the wickedness of your heart and soul. You need professional help Kayla. Until then youāll only be fooling yourself because I can assure you that nobody else is fooled by your posts, comments, and ugly character. Get well Kayla and find a life for yourself outside your ambitions to run a puppymill.
You need to check your character before you even begin to comment on mine. You started this whole thing. I'm just defending myself. This complaint will continue to get longer until you learn to keep my business out of your mouth. You made your bed now lay in it. Bye for now! Until I see some more fraudulent stuff on your forum I can't respond to.
LOL. You have me truly laughing out loud. I lay in my bed very comfortably. You are certainly showing signs of restless sleep. I can imagine if you continue breeding and more and more complaints are documented you can bet it'll be exploited. But don't blame me for your irresponsibility and horrible ethics. The complaints coming in are from Your puppy owners as well as the people who have contacted you and were quick to recognize that you're a scammer and someone completely untrustworthy. Those with education on the breed aren't even going to call you anyway due to photo's of your dogs and puppies you have posted. This is why you struggle to sell your puppies and list them on every website that receives some traffic. You pay others to advertise for you. Try and get some sleep Kayla. You'll never be comfortable while you're sweating me and struggling to make a positive name for yourself. Nighty night kiddo.
Your struggling to sleep your the one on my website screenshoting stuff at 1am & posting it on your forum LOL. Tell me again who's sweating who? Your a miserable person. check your character Steve like you tell everyone else to do. Your a hypocrite on every level. Your currently talking to yourself on your forum no one's even responding. You have posted multiple things this month and no one cares. Its funny how you still think Im going to disappear. Your still convinced that your going to shut me down or something Lol. Even if you worked overtime to bash me online it wouldn't work lol. Save your words already.
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I think by now nobody in their right mind would be interested in reading all the BS on this page which was initiated by Kayla from Dino Bull Terriers. For those who wish to follow the ongoing record of complaints about Dino Bull Terriers please feel free to visit:
https://bulliesofnc.com/BTforum/discussion/2671/dino-bull-terriers-caution-bad-breeder#latest
I've responded enough to the ongoing non-sense from Kayla and have the utmost confidence that her attitude and nasty comments project the kind of person we all try out best to avoid.
Bye go away already! Your pathetic. After 2 years your still worried about me lol. Get a life. I'm not going anywhere. Your forum is pathetic too. I can't even respond to it that's why you cherish it so much. Like I said before people can't even delete stuff they post on there. Its funny how you can respond here but not to a text message. That just shows how much a coward you are. You continue to respond because you know you get asked about this complaint. A lot of people don't like you. I have text messages to show people all the customers iv sold to with the help of your forum post. All the people have to do is message someone I sold to thats on my social media to get references. Its that easy these days. Why do you think I'm still in business. IF I was scamming people there would have been more people saying what your saying but theirs not. The only people that continue saying bad things is you and your groupies that fallow you.
One more thing keep bashing my business and you will get drugg online like the pathetic you are. This will keep going until the day you die if you want it that way. I go hard for my business. I hope this complaint also shows others what happens when you bully someone online & it turns around to bite them. No one should have to go through what I went through with you. This is what happens when you try and mess with peoples money and passion that they know they work so hard for. Anyone that's passionate for what they do would have done the same thing. Call it unprofessional or whatever but you have done this to too many breeders. I'm not like everyone else. You come for me and my passion I'll ruin you end of story.
I think by now nobody in their right mind would be interested in reading all the BS on this page which was initiated by Kayla from Dino Bull Terriers. For those who wish to follow the ongoing record of complaints about Dino Bull Terriers please feel free to visit:
https://bulliesofnc.com/BTforum/discussion/2671/dino-bull-terriers-caution-bad-breeder
Yes everyone feel free to read his forum! He wrote a novel. I invite everyone to that forum. Iv sold to people that found me through that forum. I love selling to forum victims because I have nothing to hide and at the end of the day I have the last laugh. Steve your still responding Lol you poor old man. I don't expect customers that bought from me and read that forum to get involved in this drama. Steve gets no airplay on my social media sites or mention anywhere but on here.
Good Lord, stop trying to compare yourself to us. You're all over social media and the entire Bull Terrier community is well aware of Dino Bull Terriers. There was a recent discussion in our Bull Terrier Group page (16, 000 members) which had a multitude of negative comments about Dino Bull Terriers. Anyone who conducts an ounce of research on Dino Bull Terriers will easily figure out what kind of breeder you are and the quality of dogs you produce. As for Bullies of NC, our reputation within the nation requires no introduction which is why we have a consistent high volume of people on our waiting list and why our puppies are spoken for as soon as they are born. I realize you pay 3rd party websites to advertise for you in hopes of gaining some traffic to your page and selling a puppy to someone that fails to do their homework in regard to a quality Bull Terrier. However, I can assure that if anybody was to even bother reading through your garbage complaint on this bogus website they'd certainly see exactly who the troll is struggling to sell puppies that have NO pedigree recognition.
Almost forgot to include the Link which initiated your retaliation to post libel comments. I will include with every response which will help drive that page popularity up every time the words "Dino Bull Terriers" is used.
https://bulliesofnc.com/BTforum/discussion/2671/dino-bull-terriers-caution-bad-breeder
I'm re-sharing the link to that forum! I would hate for Steve's noval about my bussines to go to waste. Please share it with everyone that you can. I hope it goes viral. It's not the best way I wish myself and my business to be talked about but hey I'll take any publicity I can. Especially if it's free! Can't go wrong with that! Steve has a pretty big fan base too. Thanks in advance everyone please share share share!
https://bulliesofnc.com/BTforum/discussion/2671/dino-bull-terriers-caution-bad-breeder
LOL. Heck if you like all the complaints people have about you, you should have read the Long discussion about Dino Bull Terriers on Facebook a couple weeks ago. 16, 000 people seen it, shared it, and added many negative comments about you. It seems that there are many people in your area of New Mexico who are already aware of your bad reputation as a breeder. I was amazed to see so many people commenting about you which is a good thing. It's quite clear you have thousands of people within the Bull Terrier community that recognize Dino Bull Terriers as one to avoid with all costs. It's good to know you enjoy seeing and hearing about documented complaints about your breeding program and You in general. I have a strong feeling you'll be getting a lot more complaints which you seem to like and consider them advertising. I'm happy to hear you like seeing the ongoing complaints against you and support them.
Awesome! Wish I could join the conversation on your Facebook forum too but you blocked me. Yeah well all these complainers you speak of but yet not one complaint filed with the Better Business Bureau on my behalf? Or is it because your a lier? Yup your a lier. Id hate for people that are unhappy with my services to miss the opportunity to file a complaint. If they cant file a complaint their opinion is simply just an opinion. An opinion will not change my rating. Unfortunately we have freedom of speech laws here in America that people abuse especially on social media. By the way while your hyping me up I made another sale the other day. I'm not worried. Keep it going. If I was worried I would have changed my business name or quit this all together. Thanks again Steve. I hope your having a wonderful day.
You keep mentioning the Better Business Bureau. Do you not realize that people do not look at breeders as a business company? It's absolutely ignorant of you to keep using the BBB as some sort of justification of your ethics and reputation as a breeder. Dozens of people commented about Dino Bull Terriers and not one had anything good to say. Clearly MANY people are aware of your reputation and intelligently avoid Dino Bull Terriers. You have a long list of people who know what kind of breeder you are and would never do "business" with you. Yes, you can always change your kennel name especially since it has no bloodline recognition but you can bet your bottom dollar you'd be flagged for changing your kennel name. You aren't planning on changing your own name are you? LOL. You can continue breeding all you want. That's your prerogative. There will always be backyard breeders and puppymills posing a cancer to the breed but they never amount to anything and their name always gets out to the Bull Terrier community just like yours did.
Hello Steve I would just like to say that Iām a proud owner of one of your wonderful pups I have a boy from Spartacus and ginger heās so special to us thank you again for your dedication to this breed in making sure you only produce some of the best if not the best quality bullyās in the U.S we couldnāt be more happier with frank heās such a good boy excellent temperament strong healthy boy if I had a choice to do it all over again I would definitely be on your waitlist again faster than we were at the airport to pick up frank on the day of his arrival lol
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Thanks for compliment. We are very proud of how we raise our Bull Terriers and have a lot of pride in the reputation we have earned within the nation. It's unfortunate that we have to deal with the scorn of a few backyard breeders like the one who posted this discussion because we refused to sell them a puppy. We are very calculated as to where our pups go and take pride in knowing they go to good loving homes like yours.