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Costco - horrible treatment of nonmembers

I don't frequent Costco regularly; I probably go there once every two months or so. Even when I do shop there, I usually pick up only a few small items (0-5). As such, I am not a member - I can't save enough a year to cover the membership cost. However, my friend has bought me a cash card to use.

Being a nonmember cash card user has its hassles. I have to go to the front desk to obtain a "pass" and the staff would ask whether you would like membership or not. During checkout, the cashier would always need to wave over a supervisor and have him/her enter some code or whatnot. All this is fine; I don't mind waiting for them to complete the proper procedures.

The problem I have with Costco is the staff's attitudes towards nonmembers with cash cards. On occassions, the front desk workers/cashier/supervisor would roll their eyes or ask in an expaserated tone "You don't have membership?" or "You don't want membership?". Their attitude, tone, body language, and facial expressions become disrespectful and rude.

Today (1:00 pm, April 15, 2011) at the 2370 Ottawa St., Port Coquitlam, B.C. Costco warehouse, I have received the most horrible treatment I have ever been subjected to at any establishment. The front desk worker was a woman named Elaine. I declined the membership offer, showed her the cash card, and asked if I can get an entry pass (which is a partially filled out membership form). Right off, her demeanor changed. As she was filling out the form for me (I had provided her with my name, address, etc...), she said "Don't think you can rely on a cash card every time to get in." I was completely stunned and stood in baffled silence as she continued along those lines. This was the first time I've seen her. My last visit to Costco was months ago. Yet she seemed to be insinuating that I perpetually try and sneak in.

I may not be a member, but I am still a customer. This woman treated me as if I was a beggar pleading for entry or a crime committing thief. I was confused, angry, and upset. I am not one for confrontation, so I just took my pass and walked off. I turned around after a few steps and saw that she had waved another coworker over and began talking about me. She was making gestures towards me and the coworker shot a few disapproving glances my way whilst shaking his head. I was again shocked at their audacity and blatant behaviour. I left without buying anything.

From the Canadian Costco website, it writes nonmembers may use cash cards. There are also no restrictions on the usage number or on the amounts of goods purchased with it. So why do they treat nonmembers so crassly? If they are unhappy with nonmembers' business, why do they not change their policies regarding cash cards? Why not cater exclusively to members? If they allow anyone to use their cash cards, they shouldn't allow prevalent discrimination against nonmembers. Overall, this has been a most disturbing and upsetting event for me.

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Update by FA0
May 04, 2011 11:43 am EDT

@david cardenas: You have my empathy. The employee who said you had to cash in your gift card is completely ignorant of company policy. You didn't mention, but did she have a nasty attitude accompanying her words? If so, she is certainly out of line and her berhaviour should be reported. I hope there will be changes at your Costco. These horrible experiences can really ruin one's day. (I fumed over mine for a week).

@SURFOP80: You seem confused in your anger. David's response to your comment pretty much summed up what I wanted to say, but here is my reply anyway. Broken down for your convenience.

1. Do you think cash card users enjoy holding up the line? I would like to avoid the checkout hassle myself, but rules are rules.
3. I am not discriminating the store. I am complaining about two employees' discriminatory actions toward me. If Costco is "fed up" writing passes, the choice is clear: Change the rules or just let nonmembers flash their gift cards. I don't know whose policy you are writing about when you mentioned nonmembers are limited to two visits - Costco certainly has no such law.
4./5. My friend paid for the cash card and thusly paid for me using their services. I may not have been the one paying, but I am entitled to their services - in accordance with their website, that is.
6. Perhaps you should revisit Costco's website?

It is lovely that every cent you paid for your membership was worthwhile, but this might not be the case for everyone. Instead of roaring madly and accusing every nonmember, don't you think it would be much more productive to direct your unsatisfaction towards Costco?

Update by FA0
Apr 20, 2011 11:53 pm EDT

@TheLoveFist II: There is nothing wrong with that phrase. You are going off on a tangent.

Update by FA0
Apr 20, 2011 1:02 am EDT

@Teeo: Exactly. Costco should just change their rules.

@I'mintheirshoes: Nonsense. I doubt anyone would "need" a Costco membership to survive. Yes, I would like to use my cash card without having to sign up for membership; I made no attempt to hide that fact - call it "abuse" or "cheat" as you will. Your analysis of why I posted my complaint is irrelevant, but I'll indulge you. It would have been nice to have seen some more empathy or sympathy, but I did not come here fully expecting it. I was curious to hear other's opinions on this issue. I have heard your hope, and here is mine in return: It is rare for business to refuse service without a valid reason (although I'm sure they are entitled to, with or without one). I certainly hope the business world is not filled witih unsound individuals such as yourself.

@TheLoveFistII: Absence of rules and regulations, terms and conditions, would only give birth to unrestrained chaos. If my "sort of attitude" has helped create a lawful world, then you are welcome. Or shall I say "Welcome to a [censored] world"?

@srchng4care: Ah, that reminds me. Another thing Costco could do is to have a limit on number of cash cards a member could purchase or reload. That could help ease some of the tensions.

@Mellen67: I agree. Had that clerk been more professional, I would not have raised any complaints.

Update by FA0
Apr 19, 2011 6:24 am EDT

@molliewollie: I agree. Cash cards and membership are two separate things. And nope, my kitchen cabinets are not full of smuggled sugar. I don't dabble in thievery.

Update by FA0
Apr 19, 2011 6:08 am EDT

@pobarjenkins: I understand Costco makes money from their memberships. But if their cash cards intentions were as you say, then I think it would be best to place 'explicit' limitations. Leaving it open-ended causes many problems for both members and nonmembers. I am confused as to why some commenters are being hostile towards me and not using that energy in asking Costco to change their policies. Also, to answer your question, I do not go to Costco often, nor do I buy a lot from them. Membership costs $50, but I don't think I can even save $25 from their membership discounts.

@Stealth-Pilot: Instead of receiving bursts of undeserved attitude, I would much rather they strip away cash card privileges after, say, having spent X amount of money each year or after having Y amounts of visits. At least this way, I would know my violation of the rules warranted their rudeness.

@molliewollie: Your sugar packet analogy is quite nice. But the difference is that the cash cards are paid for. In a restaurant, a customer who has paid for his or her drink is entitled to using X number of sugar packets IN their drink; their drink fee covers the cost of flavouring. Taking sugar packets home is another thing and may even border on the line of theft. Likewise, my friend has paid for my cash card; I am thusly entitled to their products.

Update by FA0
Apr 19, 2011 5:36 am EDT

@molliewollie: You are right. It is not fair to paying members. But since Costco permits it, the discriminatory attitude is all the more wrong. Also, I would like to direct your attention to the fallacy "two wrongs do not make a right".

@srchng4care: Thank goodness someone else agrees it is incorrect to pin everything on the shopper! I was getting dismal from comments that said I should be expelled or that I shouldn't shop there to begin with.

Contrary to some of the other commenters' beliefs, I do understand why members would be frustrated and angry; they are the ones providing Costco money for their services. But this does not mean cash card nonmembers deserve to be insulted, accused, or mistreated. So long as Costco itself allows it, nonrulebreakers should not be ostracized nor stigmatized.

Update by FA0
Apr 19, 2011 3:44 am EDT

@12321: You are begging the question. I am complaining about having received horrible treatment when I have not broken any 'written/official' rules. And yet your argument is: "If what you were doing was 100% legit, you wouldn't have received the treatment you did. " ...

And while we're on the topic of fallacies, the don't forget the aforementioned 'two wrongs don't make a right'. I think you would concede that even 'if' my actions were wrong, it still doesn't negate the clerk's unprofessionalism.

And no, no, I admit it. It is glaringly obvious that I want to use my cash card at Costco without being a member. After all, that was the point of my complaint. I certainly am not trying to be "sneaky" about it.

Haha, I can be quite bullheaded at times. Unless definite, unrefutable proof is presented to me, I don't think I can back down from my position on this one. At the very least, I think we can agree to disagree, yes?

@TheLoveFist II: I don't know. But I think the following quote from Costco.ca is quite clear too: "Members can buy Costco Cash cards for non-members".

Update by FA0
Apr 18, 2011 7:50 am EDT

@123321: As big a company as Costco, they should really just state their policies clearly, if their cash card intentions are as you say. However, I cannot regard their cash cards as some sort of a "free trial". My friend has paid - and I stress 'paid' - for their services beforehand; it would logically follow that they would (and should) fulfill their end of the contract and not deny me. I am not "reusing a free trial"; there never was anything free about it to begin with.

I do not know the rules and regulations of Sam's Club, so I do not have anything to that aspect. If there are Costco members who are unhappy with cash cards, I do not think it is proper nor sane to place the responsibility/hostility on nonmembers. (And certainly not to exile us, as both you and JKDE had written). Asking Costco to adopt a new policy or place limitations on cash cards would go much further.

In the end, whether this was my first time or not, I do not believe I deserved the treatment I got. The woman was clearly discriminatory, as I doubt she knew the exact numbers of my visits. I am just surprised to discover that some people would place the blame on me. Two wrongs do not necessarily make a right - and in this case, I hardly think my actions were incriminating.

Update by FA0
Apr 16, 2011 3:02 am EDT

@Karl123: Making instantaneous good comebacks have never been my strongsuit, althought I certainly admire those with such a skill!

@JKDE: No, no, I'm not "sneaking in" at all. Costco does not prohibit nonmembers with cash cards. Of course I understand paying members are entitled to Costco's services. What I don't understand is why they are entitling nonmembers and then discriminating against them (see last paragraph of my complaint). I wouldn't have anything to protest if they restricted cash cards to members only.

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Costco Lover!!!
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Oct 12, 2011 5:17 am EDT
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The Costco Cash card is a "gift card" so to speak, it is NOT an excuse to NOT get a Membership. You are obviously happy enough to keep going back to Costco, why not pay for the Membership. In my opinion the Warehouses should be limiting the number of times someone can use the Cash card. I understand if you are giving a gift to someone for Christmas or a Birthday, but use the funds and if you are happy with the products we offer, pay the Membership fee and be a Member, do not take advantage of Costco. It is because of these kinds of people that the Membership fees are increasing, people who want something for nothing.

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samgobigs
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Jul 30, 2011 7:53 am EDT

Have to agree with FAo. Costco cash cards are usable by non-members. Period. If people like Surfop don't like this policy, go shop somewhere else. Don't complain about having to wait in line, that's just how the system works. I was a previous Costco Executive member, and I bought cash-cards for friends of mine, and I don't think they should be treated any differently than myself. (And to clarify - the website clearly allow non-members to use cashcards). I don't know FAo has done anything wrong, and should be treated the same, member or non-member. Besides, I think that Costco purposely does this to entice people to sign-up for their memberships down the road.

I would personally write to the supervisor of the store and voice your concerns. There is no reason to treat customers like that regardless. You would probably get more out of it this way.

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david cardenas
gardena, US
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May 04, 2011 3:22 am EDT
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Hey SURFOP80, where do you get your info from. I called Costco and they told me there is not a limit on the number of times a non member can use a Costco Cash Card. Call them yourself and get the facts. Show me the the money, I mean show me the POLICY.

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david cardenas
gardena, US
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May 04, 2011 3:11 am EDT
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to: Xenophobicons
You should take up your complaint with Costco. I called them and they said they have no problem with their Cash Cards. Call them yourself. As for me, I'm just not going to let $200 go down the drain because you have a problem with it.

This card was a gift. I will use it as any other gift card I have received. I have also given many

gift Cards and have never heard any complaints.

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SURFOP80
Ottawa, CA
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May 04, 2011 2:56 am EDT

I am a paying member, I spend roughly around $15'000 a year on supplies and pay my membership off with my 2%, However! I have had the opportunity numerous times to be inline with a non-member and let me tell you my two cents.
1) You hold up the line for people who pay for good service and really that pisses us off as it is because we had to hassle around to finda parking spot.
2) If you keep getting cash cards but a F!@($^G MEMBERSHIP ALREADY
3) Don't discriminate a store for getting fed up with having to write up your information everytime. Policy states that you get in twice as a non member then you have to buy a membership.
4) Don't be complaining about services when YOU DONT EVEN PAY FOR THE SERVICE!
5) Your technically STEALING services that I pay for !
6) CASH CARDS ARE FOR MEMBERSHIP HOLDERS TO GIVE AS A GIFT TO PEOPLE WITH MEMBERSHIPS

People like you need to stop being so damn cheap and start paying up. I pay $100 annually and it was worth every cent from day one. STOP STEALING MY SERVICES FOR FREE YOU CHEAPSKATE!

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david cardenas
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Apr 30, 2011 7:03 pm EDT
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to: Xenophobicons

I'm not itching for a confrontation. As a matter of fact, this is the first time I have ever posted a complaint. I'm a very non-confrontational person, but there is a first time for everything. Sometimes you have to take a stand. This Costco Cash Card was given to me as a gift by a member. I have roughly $200.00 left on it. I live alone and don't need to use much of that balance at a time. Consequently, in order to use up all the balance, I will need to shop at Costco quite a few time. I don't want to have to relive that experience every time I go there. When the balance is used up, I will not renew.

I am going to contact Costco and ask them what their official policy is on this matter. I will also tell them about my experience with two of their employees.

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david cardenas
gardena, US
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Apr 30, 2011 3:31 am EDT
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I received a Costco Cash Card for Christmas. When I went to use it, the employees were very rude to me. When I got my day pass, I said "thank you." The employee did not say your welcome. I repeateted, "thank you, " still no response. I finally raised my voice and said"thank you." She just gave me a dirty look.
One even told me I had to cash it out the next time I came in. Where in Costco policy does it say that? Who was she to tell me that? I was not trying to avoid a Costco membership fee. I was just using a gift card, as any other gift card. I'm going to call Costco and ask them their official policy regarding their Cash Cards. I am also going to tell them how rudely I was treated, and their names. If I don't, get a favorable response. I will give them a piece of my mind.

If I am ever treated like that again, there's going to be a confrontation and we are are going to bring this thing to a point.

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Tee0
Saint John, CA
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Apr 19, 2011 10:00 pm EDT

Right, I agree with TheLoveFist. Costco should have explicit limitations, but the fact is that they don't. Get over it. I find it hilarious that you members would think that a large company such as Costco would care about this trivial nonmember-cashcard issue. If they did, they would have done something ages ago. So quit spewing your misdirected anger at nonmembers. "Don't hate the player, hate the game or don't play."

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srchng4care
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Apr 19, 2011 4:39 pm EDT
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well its a member who keeps reloading the card for @fao and they still continue to pay their "dues" complain to them

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Tee0
Saint John, CA
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Apr 19, 2011 6:29 am EDT

Big deal. Rules are rules, and if you don't like it that's too bad for you. Being a member myself, I couldn't care less whether they let nonmembers in or not, it's none of my business. I don't agree with people cheating the system, but let's face it, there is a major loophole in Costco's "cash card" policy and there will always be people taking advantage someway or another. If all you "members" have a problem with Costco letting nonmembers in, then here is a solution for you: Go shop somewhere else. Simple no?

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