I have a complaint about Chapel Sales, Inc. They are headquarted in Mt Laurel, New Jersey...
They came to my door, two young black women, who seemed well educated and took me for about #200.00. I bought magazines for myself and grandchildren. This was in March of 2007 and I have not been able to reach them by telephone. They do not take messages or answer mail. I understand I'm the the only one who has be taken by these thieves.
I live in Whittier California so they are going over state lines to do there mischief. I've seen other complaints online about them and it's ashame nothing can been done.
Thank you very much...
My story is exactly as the others. I thought my $52.50 was helping a young person build a scholarship fund. We are the type of family that does not like to owe any bills so we paid the whole amount off and now are the fools so this one company missed it up for all the other door to door sales people that come to my area in Waldorf, MD.
my name is tiffiany and i worked for chapel sales in the year [protected]. At first when i got involved it seemed like fun but after about 3 months when they said I can go home and visit they wouldnt let me they kept coming up with all these excuses about how i needed to make my own money and pay for my own way. Then we would have to get up and be at morning meetings at 8 til 9 then we get our ducets and load up in the van for hour rides. they would drop us off and come back in 1 1/2 hours later or sometimes later. We worked in all types of weather conditions no matter what it was and they didnt care if we got sick or not. If u were sick they still had u go out unless u were on ur death bed. Anyways we wold be out til 9 10 at nite, get back to the motels by 11 and checked in and had to go to an under quota meeting that ;asted a half hour then we would go get something to eat for the ones who had money. but hell by the time u do all that it was time to go to bed. U don't get enough sleep and even though we had sundays off we were still working doing sales pitchs and stuff.
My mother told me it was like a pimping business they drop us off on the corners for us to make them their money and if u don't succeed u have to deal with verbal abuse sometimes physical abuse and harrasment from the car handlers, other agents, and managers. So basically what Iam saying is that chapel sales is foul as they want to be and Iam so glad that I left when I did. Because its people thats been there for 16 years or more and thats all they know they fell in that trap.
I am an ex-contractor checking back on my story that I have posted over a year ago. I would like to encourage anyone one that is filing a new complaint to read all of the complaints on this thread again. I see by some of the new postings by some ex-contractors - not much has changed about this company.
(I found this ad on myspace from the person that hired me )
I AM INTERESTED IN MEETING PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO WORK AND TRAVEL TO MAJOR CITIES ACROSS THE U.S.A. WITH A LARGE SALES TEAM, EARNING $250-$550 PER WEEK, PLUS BONUS! WE TRAVEL TO CITIES LIKE MIAMI, LOS ANGELES, NEW YORK CITY, CHICAGO, HOUSTON AND PHILADELPHIA. IF YOU ARE INTERESTED PLEASE CONTACT ME AT [protected].
From reading the above ad, not much has changed - except the amount of money per week that you can make.
I would like to encourage people to check their newspapers, and if you find any ads like this - know that they are out to get your youth.
i was scammed for 47.00 on 02/06/2007 in milton, fl. 32570
he did the same to me as he did to all of you!
the form says his name is Darrell Martin
i will never trust another door to door again
I believe at one point this company was honest. I had dealt with them twice before and I received everything I ordered. The third time they got me and only fulfilled part of my order. Now I in the chase.
Holler to Whittier CA - Know that you are not alone!
k ward when you decide to do a film on this ordeal get at a girl you're right their are some stories about the experience we had with this company ladytcbs@yahoo.com and if you know jay email a sista
Hi i looked at a lot of these comments about chapel sales and mike you know that these people are not lying because i worked for chapel sales back in 1987 and yes they do pry on young people because when bill interviewed me back in Savannah Ga it was not explain to me that i would be selling books i was in my 20s back then and when i saw the article that you get paid while you travel at a young age that sounds good the manager that do the interviews need to let the people know what they would be doing and give them the opportunity to decide if that something they want to do i did not hang around long enough to run into any problems the only problem i ran into is I got pregnant and had a son that will be 21 in april and i did not let the father know and when i call the headquarters to find out if he still works there tracy the owner of chapel sales said that he did not work there anymore and when i ask about the crew leader cassandra lowe he said she did not work there and he lied but running that kind of business that what you do so if anyone that work with me in 1987 know woodrow johnson know as jay because at the time we had two people with the same name woodrow johnson but the woodrow johbson i know is from fla goes by the name jay and if any one who worked with me back then that knows him and still have contact with him please email me at ladytcbs@yahoo.com because i have an 21 years old son who really need to meet his father and if some of the people that worked with me back then like gregory watkins from macon ga and carl jackson from alabama and teddy pendagrast from savannah ga if any of you guys reading this get back at a sista email a sista at ladytcbs@yahoo.com
I wonder are they now known as millineum sales inc? chapel sales inc website is no longer avail
I USE TO WORK FOR THEM BUT FOR ONLY 3 OR 4 WEEKS I DIDNT KNOW THEY WAS DOING ALL OF THIS TO PEOPLE ...BUT HELL I NEVER REALLY SOLD ANYTHING TO NO ONE PEOPLE DONT BUY ### FORM PEOPLE KNOCKING ON THERE DOOR.
I worked for Chapel Sales Inc. (Joseph Malone & Asscoiates) nearly three years (95-98). I recieved three cash awards. I was also, one of the top sales people. I was trained by the best K Guest, Jaz Thomas, and D Ross. It was good at first, but I got bored. Dijon was my manager. I traveled up and down eastern seaboard, LA, Houston, Chicago and all points in between. It was a good learning experience, but there were bad parts and people too. I was an honest contractor and recieved my three cash awards because I always told the customer about the mail in balance. That was the key... the customer must be told about the mail in balance; if not, they will not recieve their order. Or I would simply ask for payments in full, this ensured they would get their order. I have since recieved two college degrees etc. Life is still tough and challenging, but this experience perepared me for alot.
As for those that didn't get their products, they must've misunderstood the mail-in balance part, or the salesperson was unethical and did not tell them about it. Or they just got rid of the receipt and kept the money. What a shame. These people were usually found out. I made many friends across the country and with the company and many of whom I keep in touch with today.
Some I have lost contact with and would really like to have a reunion. For those of you that know me, I live in Louisville, KY. I think I was the only one from this area. Contact me at my e-mail.. I'd love to hear from you.
The company was legit... it was just some of the independent contractors were not on the up and up and giving the company a bad name, including some of the managers. Upandcoming502@yahoo.com
The Dijon, you mentioned. . . is that Lyles? Leroy's older brother? I was on Drake's crew.
Hi, I worked for CSI for 2 years from [protected]. It was the best thing I did at the time. The people I meet in CSI are one of the best people I have met in my life, I call them my family and even inlcuding some of the "Jones". I was around positive people. Some of these kids come on to this job because they couldn't find something at home. When they join and stay and sell. They build confidence and had a voice. Meet people that cares if they did good.
it was a commission job. I used to take out $100 every week to shop if i did good. Which I did. And I saved. You work you get paid. Thats life.
The fact that some items were not shipped can be said about any other company. This year from Amazon, I didnt get 3 or 4 packages.
When I order a mag online, the mag skip a few issues. Or just other company that sell things, once and a while you have a flaw.
I have COMPLAINT about you Buyers'
You are your own person. You have choices in life, this, that or the other. You decided what you do, not some kid at the door. You help them or you don't.
Read before you sign anything. Check for the numbers.
I knocked on a lot of nice people door and some crazies ones that pulled guns to my head just from knocking or the color of my partners skin (i'm light...lol)
Relax - Don't be so hard on people.
Just remember that many many many other, including myself, receive their books and magazine from Chapel Sale every day every year, year after year.
When you look into the kid's eyes that comes to your door, think of what it means to them to do this, the guts and hard work.
I use to work for Chapel Sales Inc. We traveled from state to state with a sales talk about being students working to receive points by getting people (door to door ) to by books. We sold books by commission and we lived in sharing hotel rooms with the people we worked with. The people who did others wrong were dealt with by the Management and most likely they were fired and sent home... a few times this occurred and the salesperson was immediately fired on the spot.
I person have the right to express how they feel about this company. It's been over 22yrs. since I worked for them and this is the first time I've ever heard complaints about the company... I am Antoine Mahan and I can be reached directly on facebook... thank you and Happy New Years...
I too worked for this company under beverly and Doug dismond. It was a wonderful experience for me yeah some people took donations but I never really did. Not many people in my group were doing those things and we never stayed in sleezy hotels alway upscale. You cant blame your own stupidity on one company this is not the only sales company in the waorld
I work for Doug Dismond to man they left me in Florida beginning of the end for me
I was about 19 or 20 when i worked at csi. back in 2006. i have actually been trying to get in contact with some of the ppl that i worked with because i made alot of good friends if yo u remember me you can contact me on facebook carla june carver
I received every thing I've purchased from those nice students.
Im actually looking for a magazine crew right now, I had a job with one in the past, i had fun, made money, all the people who bought magazines from our crew GOT THEIR MAGAZINES, and honestly, I miss that damn, job, lol. If anyone knows someone in a magazine crew who is hiring, send me a friend request on facebook, my email on facebook is: SamiSinger 102@yahoo.com. I would put my cell number on here, but one of these crazy ### people on here who are trying to shut down the magazine business might blow up my phone, like some crazy babydaddy or ex boyfriend typr of person or something on some harrassment type ###, sad, peeps make comments about the mag crews, but they're the ones with the issues, for all we know, maybe mental. Lol, sorry, I just feel strongly about peeps who get ###ed by the fake ### mag crews, and want to blame all of the good crews out there too, just like there are good and bad people in the world, there are good and bad magaizine crews as well. Oh and to make a comment on the one guys comment, true that dude. U cant blame the company for the agent's behavior, cuz the mag crews only hire 18+, which is legally an adult, so since their adults, and ###, we all want to make money, but some choose to cheat it out of people cuz thats their excuse for bad sales experience, or not knowing how to sell, you cant blame the manager, or the crew, cuz thats like me blaming all black people for the nation of islam telling me and whatever black guy im dating at the time, that we're both going to hell, me, cuz Im a "white devil" and him cuz hes dating me; or its like me blaming all white people for my parents decision to disown me, becuse i prefer to date black men, i could say, its all white peoples fault, their all racist, but no, cuz there are alot of peeps my age who went thru the same thing with their parents. Plus, its not right, just like you stupid ### people who want to blame the whole crew and/or all magazine crews, for a certain person/peoples actions. Come on now, is america really that stupid? wake up people
I also use to work for CSI during the late seventies. It was a wonderful learning experience. I met many people throughout the country both the "Jones" and the staff. I traveled with the crew for approximately two years. It really open my eyes to the point to where I now hold four degrees. It allowed me to make positive directions in my life and I am happy that I was able to gained the experience. We back then did not have compliants, and the people also received their products. Thank you Sallie Jacobs-Squares for the opportunities.
I just got one thing to say on this forum spread is that the company dealt with a bunch of managers that did not send work orders in and were pocketing money. Many orders did not go in because of this, which drove the company in the toilet. I know for a fact many of the people who did not receive their books got a full refund. I watched as my Grandfather slaved and invested so much money into this company to try and make his workers be on the top of everything till his death, this has nothing to do with the head people it is mainly up to the managers working the particular crews that were being conniving individuals that stole from the company and gave it a bad name. Today the doors of Chapel Sales are now closed due to this issue and countless debt acquired over the years of terrible individuals in the company, so to all you people on here saying that this company is a scam it is no were near a scam trust me I have a personal family connection with the company not from a worker or management but the owner so please don't sit on here and say negative things when you have no idea of what was going on internally within the company.
So you're a Squires huh? Of course you won't have anything to say negative about the company. You benefitted from us "working" sunup to sundown earning next to nothing and us taking draws just to eat. Then being off one day wasn't much. Listening to the manager Charles Asbell or Mrs Sally trying to motivate us with [censored] and sending us to overrun T but it's our fault because we couldn't get sales to fund them. No, I'm not bitter at all. It was a lesson learned and I'm a better person now...
i worked for these punks for three years, brain washed by their ###. in reality we're gettin' straight pimped and not even knowing it. their the biggest black owed scam in the world and they deserve someone to do them the way they do all of their employers. we would go state-to-state in vans like every three to six months but it would be the same damn state almost every year and i've been in alot of dangerous situations because people were not receiving their publications and not even getting their money back. i made alot of money but tell you the truth i was taking major donations just to support my weed habit, once i grabbed enough bread to get an apartment, i quit that son of a ###. last year i thought about going back to work for them bcuz i was in a bad situation, but i just cant imagine ###ing people over like that again, its just straight scandolous. so, ### CHAPEL SALES, i hope yall burn to the ground. PAYBACKS A ###! SUCKA'S!
Its not the company its the sales people. the first payment is a deposit. the salesperson should have explained this but some people are not honest. I worked for chapel sales and have seen this numerous time by overzealous desperate salespeople. The company wants your business not you to have problems. The y lose business and you feel like you've been robbed. I am ashamed to say i was connected because i saw this and didnt report or tell on my fellow salespeople. Chapel sales helps alot of troubled inner city youth get their life together. Some still do wrong. If you pay the remaining balance i assure you you will recieve your books and or magazines. I suggest you first contact the company and make sure that they did receive your initial payment before paying the balance, because some kids dont turn in their orders at all. I attribute this to Chapel not compensating these young guys. So they feel they have to steal ar mislead peole just to have 20 dollars in thier pocket. But 1ce again the company is reputable. Ive had many family members order from me when i worked thier from 2000 to 2001. No one had any problems, but then again they knew the whole process becuase i explained it thouroughly. Sorry for your loses guys, if you didnt get a refund, but all hope is not lost, even if it feels that way.
Button it up with a nice close.
YO THIS GREG WILLOUGHBY CHAPPEL SALES [protected] ADRIAN ELAM AND DAREEN WILLIS CREW. GET AT ME JOHNSONMOE6@AOL.COM . iM ON FACEBOOK FOR MY OLD HOMIES.
i agree with you all, this company is nothing but a rip off. I use to work with this company right after high school because i thought it was a really good start to get on track after graduation. They paid for my bus ticket to get to miami and when i got there it was too real to be true. We stayed on the beach and everyday we ate at mcdonalds. Lol. In the end it made me sick to my stomach and i end up really getting sick. So to make a long story short the supervisors mr and ms marshall paid for my ticket to return home. But to everyone that think its real its not. They rip ppl out they health and money. So if someone knock on your door with a black book and a made up award letter or saying they need help to get a schlorship call the police right away. ITS A RIPOFF AND DON'T FALL FOR IT!
Former CSI worker and i had the best times of my life with the group i was with! 4 years there and there and it was like life really is...It`s what you make it! I learn a lot about life there, made a lot of bread the right way had the sales locked, winning bets, cash awards.We had Ch
ristmas partys, talent shows and fun just hanging out on Sundays when we were off.It was a job and thats how i looked at it.Yeah i seen the kids come in and leave, but each person was taken care of even when they wasnt making bread.Some just wasnt good sale people.Specail shout out to my Brother Mike Bosh! Its Mark Brown your fellow New yorker! And all the oldheads who remember all the good times!
Judging by some of the posts especially by those who stated they worked for some of these travel crews is why I thoroughly explain on my web site that there are all types of travel sales crews out there and some do not follow the proper guidlines nor follow a code of ethics and principles when hiring new sales reps and so many will hire by quantitiy rather than quality which is why we tell our potential applicants to first do their homework and research our organizxation also inviting them to call us and ask questions before taking on the position. YES there are dangers and problems and in every field or level of profession there is also but we can't judge a whole industry over a few bad apples but for the most part the traveling direct sales marketing industry is still a powerful postive way to travel, learn to become independent and make decent moeny and many of it's members a sincere hard working dedicated people and some of these other traveling sales crews of which I know are giving the industry a bad name but if we were to judge all of the screw ups a a few then we should fire all politicans, shut down government, fire all police offers, all bad teachers, all companies and business that takes bribes sell out company secrets take advantage of common workwers pensions and benefits stop going to church all of them! becasue some pastors and ministiers got caught molesting children etc etc etc there is good & bad in everything and we ask that you dot your I's and cross your T's check I.D's do research and or just don't participate all together if you feel uncomfortable and believe me I understand and you do have the right to vent if you've been taken, scammed because you have not gotten your product but often times it is not the indiividuals faults and other times it may have to do with the fact that a sales rep does not take the time to accuratley and legibly write out the customers orders therefore having to have the company pull that order and redo it manually casue a delay and backlog of orders affecting prompt delivery. other times some sales reps in their haste or attempt to win an order works too fast and forgets or does not explain the order properly and a customer may have paid a depositi but not made aware that in order for them to receive the product they have to mail in their balances within a certain time but in any case there is always a reason fo the screw up and I at least post info warning and informing our readers of the problems or possibilities there of..LIKE THIS POSTING A PLACED ON MY WEB
Some people going door to door are using deceptive lies in order to reach a sales which we DO NOT teach allow nor condone. some may not be of the same group or crew but it has been reported that this activity is occurring ...
deceptive door-to-door magazine sales crews are out in full force across the country. They are mostly high school and college-age kids who are taught to use a number of phony pitches. They say they’re raising money for a local hospital, school or charity. They’re earning points toward a school trip. Some even claim to be supporting the troops in Iraq.
We here with the Tops organization and the P.O.W.E.R. program are NOT connected affiliated nor associated with any School college nor organization other than Tops & PO.W.E.R. program . We do NOT collected donations contributions nor hand outs for any volunteer group, cancer society VETS military organization or program. We are NOT affiliated with BOX TOP and there is no such concept as BUILD A BOOK with our program.
Any money you do give to one of our members should be for the sole purpose of purchasing a book or magazine to help them with their points and in anything you do PLEASE make sure you get an official legal receipt.
Again we are like a second chance work study program where not only can a participant earn an income but while enjoying the benefits of traveling outside their environment they receive a positive educational experience in the business market, in sales and public speaking . many were selected from troubling communities and many of our members just need a shot and some we are working with to brake them of negative bad habits and so if YOU give them an unsupervised donation without a legal receipt to identify how or what is the participant using it for you may be enabling their bad habits again"
Our organization is similar to Jobcorp or a college campus where our group must follow a set of rules & regulations and all orders and receipts are logged numbered recorded and tracked whether used or not. A member may say... WELL IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO BUY A BOOK MAYBE YOU CAN CONTRIBUTE A LITTLE SOMETHING AND WE WILL ADDED IT TO THE NEXT ORDER OF SOMEONE WHO WANTS A BOOK BUT CAN'T AFFORD IT" .If you fall for that they will take that money and buy drugs or liquir etc and sneak it back to the crew. We want to aviod this possible problem so please refrain from doing that.
For any questions comments complaints or concerns please Email us at powerprogram33@gmail.com
I worked for them in 97 and we was from Louisiana... Yo Jackie, scratchy, big mike or jon b.. HMU on facebook.. Jeremy Sparro..