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AVOID THIS KENNEL. The husband and wife that own/operate under this kennel name use either Lea Winkler, Leah Winkler, Harold Winkler, Toby, and various other names.

They purchased a female from me on a "limited" registration then committed fraud with the AKC to get a full registraton on her. I filed the appropriate complaint with the AKC and got the registration reversed proving she committed fraud.

She went ahead and bred the female at age 15 months. She is now advertising puppies out of that female for sale. The name on the female is Sydney. Registered name is Honor's Sonic Boom's Girl Sydney with AKC Registration #SR50918911. Please be advised if you buy a puppy out of that female she will NOT be registered with AKC. You will be getting ripped off - she will give you various excuses why the AKC papers are not available but be advised - you will never get them.

I can prove she abused Sydney when I refused to give her a full registration on her - after she bought her on a limited registration and took her home. I have e-mails saying she is beating her.

THIS WOMAN IS A TOTAL SCAM ARTIST. She has warrants out for her arrest in at least one state, if not more. I have the documentation to prove this and will be happy to provide it.

If you come across this woman, run the other way. She is the MOST unethical puppy mill I have ever run across.

For more proof you can contact me at [protected]@yahoo.com

Debbie Kern
Showstopper Goldens

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Update by Showstopper Goldens
Jan 10, 2010 4:17 pm EST

This is a joke. It is readily apparent that Lea wrote her own endorsement. Note the spelling, method, etc. She is good at forgery and fraud I have to give her that - but that, in my humble opinion, is nothing to be proud of. Call Honor's Goldens and ask them about her - that is the name she fradulently uses on at least two of her dogs. Call Scess Goldens and ask them about their dealings with her. How often does she change her kennel name. I guess when you get enough complaints against you it's time to change. I have only known her for two of them - Desert Sun Goldens and now Frosty Paws. Call Hickory Police Department (the police that handle the area she lives in) and ask them what they know about her. Call Newport Beach, California police deparment and ask about the warrant they have out for her for Assault & Battery. I can go on and on, however, she isn't worth it - she is a scam artist and the most screwed up individual I have EVER dealt with. Lea you should have someone else write your reviews - your ignorance shows in your writing style.

Debbie Kern
Showstopper Goldens

Update by Showstopper Goldens
Jan 10, 2010 5:26 pm EST

Hey if you really have this testimonial up on your web page - give us the link to the page.

Update by Showstopper Goldens
Jan 10, 2010 5:29 pm EST

You say she (Lea) withdrew the papers - what a freaking joke. Attached is the AKC letter saying they have finished reviewing my complaint and had reversed the registration. If the dog is so bad looking why does she advertise her on her site as being "fabulous"?

Lea - you are so full of yourself and convinced that you are numerous people - grow up and stop being such a liar, cheat and criminal.

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Update by Showstopper Goldens
Jan 10, 2010 5:31 pm EST

Lea - go ahead and sue me - PLEASE. There is nothing better than sanctions for a frivulous lawsuit. I WELCOME IT. Please have me served at 809 N. 40th Street, Clear Lake, IA 50428. I am available at that address from at least 7:00 a.m. until 7:00 p.m. daily - I WELCOME YOUR SUIT you are NUTS!

Debbie Kern
Again, I sign my own name.

Update by Showstopper Goldens
Feb 06, 2011 10:49 pm EST

Leah and Harold Winkler are now operating under a new name (gee I guess if you keep changing your kennel name you can stay ahead of the bad reputation you have. She is still the same rip off, animal abuser, puppy mill she was two years ago. BTW Leah - I am still waiting for your slander suit - gee you find out you can't sue when people are telling the truth? I can now give out about 8 other names of people she has ripped off, harassed, lied to, etc. Just contact me. At least I put my name and number - unlike the glowing references Leah writes about herself. Notice those people don't list any contact information. I do. Debbie Kern - Showstopper Goldens - [protected].

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Update by Showstopper Goldens
Feb 06, 2011 10:52 pm EST

Forgot - her new kennel name is English Creme Goldens. If you are considering selling her a puppy - PLEASE - for the sake of your puppy - don't do it. I can provide e-mails from her where she tells me she is beating the F____ out of the puppy she got from me when I refused to release the limited registration. The registration got reversed by AKC after they reviewed all documentation. I have hundreds of pages of information on her and am happy to share it so you don't have to go through what I did. For those who claim I have nothing better to do - you bet I don't - if I help ONE person avoid this person then it is worth all the time I put into it. Debbie Kern

Update by Showstopper Goldens
Feb 06, 2011 10:55 pm EST

If Leah is so unhealthy why is she trying to buy another dog? For those interested - jackbequick is Leah writing - I can show you e-mails where she goes on and on about God after she tell you to F___ yourself. You aren't fooling anyone Leah but yourself. Debbie Kern

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Frosty Paw
Hickory, US
Jan 09, 2010 5:52 pm EST

NOT TRUE, THIS LADY WITHDREW SYDNEY'S AKC PAPERS BECAUSE HER SO CALLED GODLY LOOKING DOGS (SHE SAYS) SHOWSTOPPER KENNEL NAME WAS NOT USED SO SHE GOT MAD AND CHANGED HER AKC TO LIMITED AFTER I PAID $3000.00 FOR THIS DOG...WHO IS THE RIP OFF CON-ARTIST THAT GOSSIPS ABOUT OTHERS?...A LAWSUIT IS BEING FILED AGAINST DEBBIE KERN FOR SLANDER AS WELL AS HER SO CALLED FRIEND RUSHELL PROFENNO!

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Frosty Paw
Hickory, US
Jan 09, 2010 6:04 pm EST

From: seearekern@yahoo.com
To: Rushell Profenno
Sent: 10/17/2009 9:48:30 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: Lea W****ler

Attached is a copy of the two page AKC registration papers, look you can clearly see that I used white out to change the limited registration box and white out the name, even though I did the white out on the Limited box when I first sold her to Leanna and Jay Winkler and initial it clearly by drawing the arrow, and I also gave them a Bill Of Sale allowing them to buy Sydney with Full Registration at the $2000.00 for which they paid. I am the one that drew the arrow from my signature on using our kennel name to the note I had wrote regarding the removal of the limited registration. I fooled AKC too by lying to them to where they would believe me just because I am so pissed off that my dog was not offered back to me and sold to another family member in that household that they share in AZ and NC. The only reason why I am lying to AKC on this is because the fact that Leanna and Jay Winkler DID NOT use my kennel name is what really pissed me off for having puppies to carry my kennel name down the line on pedigrees and is now the reason I faked out AKC not to give this party Full Registration even though she was really fully intended to have it by me originally in the first place. SO I AM SO HAPPY I ###ED ALL THOSE PEOPLE IN THAT FAMILY ALL BECAUSE THEY DID NOT USE MT SHOW KENNEL NAME THAT WAS IN THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT. Honor's name is not to boom on pedigrees as my is to be SHOWSTOPPER'S THAT WAS TO GENERATE MY GODLY LOOKING DOGS. Also, it really pissed me off when Leanna and Jay sold her to Lea which is their relatives as I don't give a dam because I was to get this dog back and not be sold. I am so happy that I ###ed all the Winkler's on the sale of Sydney because YES they did pay Full Registration price for her and YES I did provide them a Bill Of Sale that this dog is to be registered with having intended to be FULL REGISTRATION. THEY ARE ALL ###ED AND AKC BELIEVED MY LIES!

It is readily apparent I doctored the registration, and ###ed Them All Over! HeHe

Debbie Kern
Showstopper Goldens

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Frosty Paw
Hickory, US
Jan 09, 2010 6:08 pm EST

Untrue statements from original breeder on this dog...Look what she emails to others about what she did to us after we bought the dog from a second party, NOT HER HERSELF! This will tell you and show you yourself how the real Debbie Kern is, BE CAREFUL.

Also to Clarify...WE ARE NOT A KENNEL AT ALL WHATSOEVER! We are Proud Pet Owners, is what we are, and Good People too, with morals, and DON'T slander others too...which GOOD people are hard to find these days.

Blessings, Frosty Paw

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tubie
Wilmington, US
Jan 09, 2010 9:25 pm EST
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It's obvious that the so-called email from Debbie Kern to Rushell Profenno was created by Lea Winkler herself. The language, capitalization, and spelling errors are consistent with the other 2 posts from "Frosty Paw".

Please read these posts regarding Lea Winkler formerly of Hickory Goldens, Desert Sun Goldens, & now Frosty Paws Goldens:
http://betterbreederscorner.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2801

This is a report that she left about another breeder:
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Hickory, US
Jan 10, 2010 9:59 am EST

The real true story and person of Lea winkler is on our Testimonial page on our website, Please Read!

From: larr*****145od@verizon.net
To: gold****pups**8@msn.com
Subject: Testimony
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 19:27:40 -0400

How you will describe the breeder that you are looking to get your new puppy from? I will say...responsible, honest, compassionate, really love and respect his profession as a breeder; respect the customer showing interest and care; one that never forget to follow up contacting the new owners to give the best advices; the one that it is there when you really need her the most...when a time of sadness hit the life of your beloved dog...the beautiful puppy that we got from her kennel almost 2 years ago. Our beloved, beautiful Jasmine, a female Golden Retriever, was under a routine health check up making sure that everything was fine and getting her updates health care. This was just routine...but...it turned that her veterinarian brought to us the terrible news that Jasmine was sick...HEART WORMS were devastating her beautiful system. It can't be! Jasmine is coming from a high qualify responsible breeder, and we are very responsible owners keeping her under heart worm medication religiously every month. More test were done and the devastating new was positive. Immediately we contacted Leah, Jasmine's breeder, to let her know about this sad news. The medication that we were giving to Jasmine did not protected her from this devastating disease. Jasmine was intervened through a very painful and high risk treatment. Her life was in danger. Lea was with us every step giving us support and comfort, and making sure that Jasmine was receiving the right treatment but, above of everything... she was there to pray and let us know that Jasmine will fight this terrible disease. In the mid of this situation...a kind compassionate breeder...Lea...gave to us a gift...a beautiful female Golden Retriever from her latest litter . I said "NO you don't have to do that; what happen to Jasmine has nothing to do with any lack of your responsibility and quality care, was the medication we were giving to her that did not protected her from getting sick". She said' "This puppy is yours and she will be in your hands any time soon; it is my gift to your family and Jasmine. Can you imagine! Here we are living in North Carolina and Lea shipped our beautiful new puppy all the way from Arizona! She took care of everything, every expenses...till she put that little puppy in the airplane! If you find a breeder like that consider yourself blessed...we did...We are really blessed! We are very fortunate! Now Jasmine is doing just fine, she is under another medication care...and we are looking forward for many years with our two girls, Jasmine and Leahnna...Yes!... we named our new puppy after the breeder Lea! Now you know what to look for when you are in search for your beloved new puppy! A responsible, compassionate, professional, honest and respectful breeder with integrity...Lea...God Bless you. We thanks God for people like you! Our love. Elba, Larry, Jasmine and Leahanna

Don't believe what you hear or read from Debbie Kern, Adrienne Wilder, & Rushell Profenno as they are all in cahoots with each other and have nothing else better to do with their time than to slander others, untrue stories and gossip that travels fast...

Not True, how does somebody create an email themselves when it was made and dent with day and time on it showing i t was sent, and the lawyer as well as other parties have this too that was sent to them as well, including AKC.

Debbie Kern has been at this for 4 months...read her emails...she is going to be hell after us for buying a dog from another party that did not use her so called Godly looking dogs as she states, and they used Honors instead, SO SHE GOT MAD!

What is untrue statements posted on the internet about us and our site from Debbie Kern and her show buddy Adrienne Wilder (which her husband is Dr Evil that owns breederscorner.net and can put anything on the site that they wish, should not effect us as we now have endorsements in our goldens and our puppies coming soon!

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jackbequick
Alexander City, US
Jan 11, 2010 10:38 pm EST

Wow...this lady Debbie Kern has so much time on her hands of making crap up and slandering others claiming that Lea emails such stuff. She need s to get a life and some serious profession mental help! Lea does not email anybody at all, and has never done anything wrong at all. Hope Debbie Ker burns in hell for her actions!

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jackbequick
Alexander City, US
Jan 11, 2010 10:44 pm EST

That is funny..., I have seen so many breeders and show breeders that say that you ARE NUTS! Lea is just a sweet lady that gives her shirt off her back and makes her buyers happy, gives free puppies for no apparent reasons and all you have to do is slander her, talk ### on her...lady you have MENTAL ISSUES! YOU NEED GOD IN YOUR LIFE. GO TALK TO JESUS you obviously need him, and prayer too. so far you are going to the DEVIL! Keep it up, you are a NUT case just like the 7 or 8 other show breeders said themselves about you, I believe it now! See it and hear it myself. You are a basket case Debbie Kern, and gossiping and slandering others is a SIN, especially ones that have health issues of life threatening issues and this is what you do to them, WOW!

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jackbequick
Alexander City, US
Jan 11, 2010 10:59 pm EST

Ok Debbie Kern, you are really sounding like a crackhead basket case with all your untrue stories that you are gossiping to others. By doing so with all this untrue gossip that you are spreading, you are really looking like the bad person, dont see Lea on here writing crap in self defense of what you are doing to her. WHY DONT YOU GET A LIFE & LAY OFF THE CRACK PIPE!

Lea does not write anything...she is practically dead & laid up 98% dealing with health issues and this is all that Debbie Kern does to her because she bought a dog off of another party that was not used her kennel name and Honor's was from the 1st buyers of this dog as Lea is second owner of this dog, check AKC records you will see who is telling the truth and who the TROUBLE MAKER GOSSIPING PIECE OF ### IS...sound like a jealousy issue for sure to me because Debbie Kern kept the wrong dog in the litter that will "win a championship" title like Sydney was guaranteed to in less than 1 year. Show Breeders are mean, hateful, jelous of other breeders and will stab anybody in the back. I can post petitions on here of them and what 99% hobby dog breeder think of them. Well it shows you exact on the email that Debbie Kern sent to Rushell, she thinks her dogs are GODLY looking right in it, does that tell you enough about Debbie Kern?

****She need s to back off and leave Lea alone for she has never done anything wrong, if you only personally knew Lea for yourself.

Debbie Kern Showstopper Kennels has been at Lea with this since last October and apparently does not know when to stop and as seeing in Debbie Kern's threatening emails, looks that Lea has a 100% lawsuit of slandering in her favor also the fact of the emails stating of the threats against her from Debbie Kern. Sound that Debbie Kern need s to be locked up and throw way the key!

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jackbequick
Alexander City, US
Jan 11, 2010 11:38 pm EST

Tubie...you don't know crap, stay out of it, Go tube yourself!

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tubie
Wilmington, US
Jan 12, 2010 8:16 am EST
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Hmm...another set of rants written by Lea, hiding under the alias of jackbequick. I hope that anyone reading these will see exactly what kind of person Lea is from what she is writing.

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stop breeding
Aspen, US
Jan 15, 2010 3:39 pm EST

This is for Debbie Kern Stop using your dogs to make you rich you ###! GO sell your own ###ing kids. All of you should go to jail for animal abuse. I can't even believe you people are fighting over a dog. The other ### wants more money so that the other ### can make money out of the poor animal. STOP BREEDING!WE HAVE ENOUGH DOGS IN THE SHELTER!

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US
Jun 25, 2010 11:13 am EDT

I wish I found this sooner. I would run far far away from this so called breeder/pet owner. They go under many names as mentioned. beware!

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GSKestablished2003
Shamokin, US
Jul 10, 2010 10:08 pm EDT

Wow.. I am really hoping these statements about Lea are not true...if so I could have trouble ahead as I just sold her 2 puppies. This is why I hate dealing with other breeders with my puppies. However, she went on and on about how she hates puppy mills, how the dogs stay in the house at all times, and really showed a true love for her dogs. I'm hoping and praying that this is true. We want our babies to go to loving pet homes which is the ONLY reason I gave her full registration. I never sell on full registration because, frankly, I do not trust breeders. Most are all about the money. I truly love my dogs and they are a part of the family. Dog breeding is what I have chosen as my primary career (I am only 19 years old) because I simply love it so much. Anyway, just hoping Lea is everything she said she is!

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golden owner
Harrington, US
Sep 02, 2010 8:11 pm EDT

I disagree with all the mean and negatitive comments about Lea. I purchased my dog carly from her when she was sixteen weeks old. Lea has been nothing but helpful during the entire buying process. Carly is now 8 and a half months old and lea still keeps in contact with me frequently via email. I decided to drive instead of putting my puppy on a plane and lea was so kind to meet me half way, which she drove a total of 8 hours to and from the meeting spot that day. Carly is as healthy as can be and lea bought her a collar, leash, toys, blue buffalo puppy food to keep her on the same food as she was already used to so carly didnt get an upset stomach. I sent my papers in to AKC and did not have any difficulty recieving them. Anytime i take my dog for walks or car rides, etc. i have compliments on how beautiful she is and what a great temperment she has. Dont believe everything u hear it is such nonsense in my opinion and i have posted other comments before on my buying experience from lea. I would not think twice to buy from her again she would be my first and only choice. Kat

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Jim and Linda LaPorta
Mabank, US
Jan 31, 2012 4:30 am EST
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Since Legacy is located in Texas, and you are located in Delaware, could I ask you what is the source of your knowlege about Legacy's dogs? How do you know their dogs have no "verifiable elbow clearance information" or "verifiable eye clearances"? From where did you get the information about their "newest stud" or that he has "sired at least 2 litters already"? I see you have posted numerous complaints about a number breeders - is that your employment? If you'd like to add another complaint to your to-do list, I would invite you to visit Rose Lane Kennels in Kemp, Texas. That was my bad breeder experience, and there is no comparison between that breeder and Legacy.

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tubie
Wilmington, US
Nov 23, 2012 3:17 pm EST
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New website for Harold & Lea(h) Winkler - http://importgoldens.com/index.html

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aferrytail4u
US
Feb 20, 2013 10:01 pm EST

Hurray! YAY! You Got it Right! Ya their new website So you can keep slandering them as you have been all along with going on 5 years now and you all just dont know when to STOP. I hope that all of America sees what I see in all of each and every one of you that are all in this with each other for America Hates HATTERS AND VINDICTIVE PEOPLE AS YOURSELF. I am glad you see yourself as in going to Heaven with what you all are doing to this family of such innocent people that have been rail-roaded. Haven't you ALL had enough? Or are you like Home Alone Movie and are Thirsty For More? You need to ALL GROW UP and Leave Harold and Leah alone for they have absolutely DONE NOTHING AT ALL TO YOU . If you want to keep writing false acquisitions of Untruthful Stories with making stuff up and putting these people's name on anything and everything you come up with- think about it what goes around comes around.

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Samuel1951
US
Aug 27, 2017 9:11 pm EDT

This is an old post. But the Winklers are still leaving a path of destruction of the innocent reputable people. The winkler family, multitude of alias's and kennel names has yet slandered another and another. If you are computer savvy at all, there are mug shots and arrest reports. Scams aplenty in more then dogs. More than one professional has made the comment they are afraid of her ( Leah, , or whatever she uses). Her last remark ? I know where you live.

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