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Breeders and Buyers alike PLEASE do NOT deal with Brian Adams of Hairlessgems!

I made the mistake of selling one of my retired sphynx queens to this man, she was still young and had great sucess with her past litter so I agreed to sell her to him so he could start up his breeding program. He was very polite over e-mails and his website touched me as he had lost a child and I had also shared in that pain... Because of my tugged heartstrings I discounted $200 from her price and even worked with him by getting up at 4am so I could drive the queen to the airport and have her arrive at a time that would be good for him. I gave him explicit instructions (( that any experianced breeder would not have to be told )) to keep her in quarentine for no less than 1 month and give her time to recoup after her flight BEFORE putting her into a room with any other cats. He was told this several times before I ever even sent him the cat. LESS THAN 3 WEEKS LATER I see ads up on Hoobly for him trying to SELL the queen for much more than he paid for her and untrue information about her age and the number of kittens she had in her past litter. When I confronted him he simply stated, ' you can buy her back if you want to, she is mean." I asked him if he followed my directions and he did not, I told him it would take more than 3 weeks to get her used to a new home, new people, and new cats as she was older and required a TINY bit of working with before being written off. He stated that she was "satens cat" and he was trying to run a business." I told him I would take her back at my own expense if he was having so much trouble with him. He stated that he would either sell her or have to put her to sleep... Thats right... He would rather put her to sleep than let me take her back at my own expense than not make a profit!

He has also put up ads stateing that she comes with tica/cfa paperwork on Hoobly, they must be fake because she was un-redgistered at the time of sale and has NEVER had any kind of purebreed paperwork. She is Pet Quality only!

He has also Put up ads on Hoobly selling ANOTHER breeding queen some saying shes pregnate, others saying she had bred with the stud and is PROBABLY pregnate... There have been other ads where he asks outright for "help" getting papers on an un-papered sphynx... And still others spewing how if you send your breeder queen to him at his cost he will "go into business" with you and share half the profits from all that cats future litters!

I will be happy to forward all his e-mail corraspondance to ANYONE intrested in proof as well as SPAM e-mails he has sent to fellow breeder friends of mine asking them to send him cats and share profits!

His names on Hoobly is: krmryhc836 (( He also has at least 3 fake ones he uses to post fake priase about his own cats when people call him out on his shady dealings. ))

I would NEVER trust a kitten from his cattery nor will I ever make the mistake of working with him in the future!

~ Elizabeth Gunde ~
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Update by LizzG
May 08, 2011 9:03 pm EDT

Thank you for posting your response Brian, its your chance to prove you are a decent responsable breeder. Please post the current HCM scans and shot records on all 7 of your breeding cats. As one of the "biggest breeders in the usa" and apprently a more reputable breeder than me im sure that wouldnt be a problem for you. The truth is you could never in a million years provide that information to ANYONE smart enough to ask for it before buying a kitten from you because it does not exist. You buy the cheapest sphynx cats you can find papered or not and use them to pump out kittens for profit, your ads on Hoobly prove that you do not have people buying all your kittens before they are born and anyone with half a brain can see that. Im so happy you found this complaint and replyed so anyone who finds it can see for themselves how childish you really are.

Update by LizzG
May 11, 2011 3:09 am EDT

If anyone would like me to forward the emails where I specifically tell you she is un-redgistered and comes with no paperwork I would be MORE than happy to, actully Ill probably just take a screenshot as well and throw up along with the rest of the evidence i have of your low charecter as a breeder and human being. Also you did NOT contact me saying you HAD to sell her I just saw her on Hoobly and confronted you about it... Everything you say is either a lie or twisted, I dont care if you keep breeding or how many cats you have, you act like I have some vendetta agenst you when my only problem is you seem un-able to keep from lieing for more than two seconds. Its like you keep forgetting that I have PROOF of every claim i made agenst you and you think you can just lie your way out of it, I have all the original emails you ever sent me as well as my replys so say whatever you want. In this whole dispute IM the only one able to show proof of my claims.

Update by LizzG
May 11, 2011 3:24 am EDT

If people want to buy your cats thats their own choice, im not posting this to hurt your business im posting it to warn other people from making the mistake I did. I sold you a queen I cared about and now i have to know that she is stressed and terrified and get emails from you telling me she is losing weight and not looking good just to try to upset me because I posted this. Had i required you to sign a contract I wouldnt have to go through this pain right now, hopeing others will learn from my mistakes.

Update by LizzG
May 11, 2011 3:53 am EDT

I have video and photographic proof that she was sweet as pie with me and my family (( husband/2 year old daughter )) its not my fault you did not follow the directions I gave you and refuse to work with her. If I had the money to buy her back (( and trusted you as far as I could throw you )) I would have already. Your profit and/or loss of money is of no concern to me, the only thing I care about is the well being of the cat I sold you and that hopefully people will read this and be careful when selling a queen or dealing with you directly.

Update by LizzG
May 30, 2011 2:53 pm EDT

Im very happy that you had a good experiance with Brian Adams, he has told me he has many happy customers and in my findings so far you are the only one I have heard from personally (( that hasnt been and obvious post from Brian himself I mean. )) You are mistaken in your facts however, I had my un-paperd Sphynx up for sale as a pet at a pet price. Brian wanted to buy her as a breeder even after I told him she was un-redgistered, in the time that we were talking he seemed VERY nice and sincere and like yourself I was very happy with my dealings with him to the point that in the end I sold him my Sphynx for the pet price even though he was going to be breeding her. It was only AFTER I sold her and started seeing all the un-savory posts Brian was putting up and then finally my own Sphynx's ad for sale by him that I realized the mistake I had made in judgment. If selling an un-papered sphynx makes someone a backyard breeder then im afraid you have alot of research to do on the subject, ALL of my cats (( exactly 5 )) are in the peak of health and scanned yearly for HCM. Brian himself who boasts about bieng "the biggest breeder in the USA" with his 7 cats does not and couldnt even provide paperwork on all his cats if you asked him to. So if IM a Backyard breeder then I dont dare to think what you should consider him. Im not looking to "Point the finger" at anyone, Im just putting the facts out there about my experiances with Brian and in doing so several other breeders have contacted me and posted here to agree that they also have bad experiances. This man threatened me via email, posted childish slander about me that I wouldnt dare to repete (( slander that is in no way connected to sphynx cats by the way. )) And worst of all Ive had no less than 3 other breeders contact me saying that he has done exactly the same to them. Also his prices are very cheap I agree, but since when does cheap = quality? I would rather have a well made Prada bag with a lifetime wareentee anyday over a made in china walmart knockoff that will fall apart the first time you wear it. I wish you the best with your kittens and hope with everything I have that you in no way ever regret dealing with him as I do now.

Update by LizzG
May 31, 2011 1:39 am EDT

Im sure all those dreams wont mean much years later when their beloved cat dies a slow painful death from HCM because you did not spend the money to scan all of your breeders for genetic defects. I know MANY breeders who sell kittens for the same price or even take pay-over-time to help people who cant afford an expensive price tag in these times AND their cats are all geneticly healthy. Dont have to prove myself = I dont have any proof because it dosnt exist.

My original complaint has nothing to do with what you charge for your kittens so I have no clue why you keep bringing it up as I could care less. Its more about the threats, lies, and harrasment at this point.

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anonymousbreeder
Dover, US
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May 09, 2011 2:37 am EDT

Thank you Elizabeth for posting this information - I have witnessed firsthand the shady dealings and contradicting postings of Brian Adams at Hairless Gems, as he has sent my cattery many spam e-mails requesting a partnership. I did my own research to find out if the opportunity was legitimate, and instead found that he lies about his cats and forges paperwork. I have also witnessed a set of threatening e-mails sent from Brian to Elizabeth because she was brave enough to expose his unethical behavior on this website. I would recommend that anyone looking to purchase a Sphynx not do business with Hairless Gems.

Thank you,
A Concerned Anonymous Breeder

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DONTBUYFROMTHISMAN
Brea, US
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May 17, 2011 3:34 am EDT

I WENT TO HELL AND BACK WITH BRIAN OVER A SPHYNX THIS MAN HAS A BIGGGGGG PROBLEM WITH THREATENING FEMALE'S I HAD TO GO TO THE F B I TO GET IT TO STOP ALL OVER A CAT THERE IS SOMTHING WRONG WITH THIS MAN STAY AS FAR AWAY FROM HIM AS U CAN

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hairlessgems
Delmar, US
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May 17, 2011 4:29 am EDT

isnt it funny how people talk ### on here and hide there screen names or real names but yet i have never sold a spyhnx to anyone who was not happy with what they got. i still keep in touch with many people who bought from me and never one complaint till now. only person this can be talking crap would be lisa delreal and if thats who u are you deserve to be [censor]ed at, you sold me 2 sick kittens and the 3rd never got mailed to me.. i am out thousands from her

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hairlessgems
Delmar, US
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May 17, 2011 4:40 am EDT

still laugthing my ### off over here... she said fbi haha what a dumb ### i would hide who u are too... lol hahahahahahaha just to funny

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Blue38380
Ridley Park, US
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May 30, 2011 11:54 am EDT

I just had to reply to this complaint when I saw it. I purchased two beautiful kittens from Brian Adams. I found him to be a very honest breeder and a man of his word. The kittens were very friendly and healthy from day one. He did not have the papers back when I purchased them. He sent them to me as soon as he got them. His prices are very reasonable and I think that is what makes other breeders angry. This is a plus for anyone that wants one of these beautiful cats but is not willing to pay thousands of dollars for them.You call him a back yard breeder. You stated in your complaint that you sold him a cat to help him start his breeding program yet you stated "she was un-redgistered at the time of sale and has NEVER had any kind of purebreed paperwork. She is Pet Quality only! ". That means you were breeding her without papers, you sold her as a breeder why on earth would you do that and call yourself a reputable breeder?, If you wanted her to go to a pet home you should have had her spayed and placed her in a pet home that's what a good breeder would have done.. You sold her as a breeder it didn't work out and he was selling her to get his money back.If you were so concerned about her why didn't you buy her back? Sounds to me like you are looking for someone to point the finger at. In my opnion there is only one bad breeder here go look in the mirror that's where you will find her. You are the one slandering this mans cattery. And to the other person that says they reported him to the FBI do you see that just makes you look like a bunch of crazy idiots?In closing I have to say my own experience with Brian Adams was great. I got to very healthy well socialized kittens at a great price. I would highly recommend him to anyone looking for a Sphynx.

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hairlessgems101
US
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May 30, 2011 9:49 pm EDT

Thank you for the kind words, i do not have to prove myself to those who do not beleive in me. i raise very sweet cats and i help those who can't afford the 12 hundred dollar price tag. i just sold my last kitten last night and i have one litter due anyday. we enjoy what we do and love the spyhnx breed so keep trashing us if u want and we will keep helping others get the cat of their dreams...

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commonknowledge
CA
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Sep 25, 2011 5:01 am EDT

HI, I don't know anyone on here. I was just browsing through the complaints board...but...these statements sent me red flags..."I made the mistake of selling one of my retired sphynx queens to this man, she was still young and had great sucess with her past litter so I agreed to sell her to him so he could start up his breeding program"------ "she was un-redgistered at the time of sale and has NEVER had any kind of purebreed paperwork. She is Pet Quality only!"... If YOUR a reputable breeder, WHY IN THE WORLD were you 1) breeding a cat that was NEVER papered AS PUREBRED and 2) Why were you breeding a PET QUALITY ONLY cat?!?!?! Yes I agree that what you were posting about reselling etc etc is wrong. But in my opinion, as a bystander/reader...that would classify you as a backyard breeder yourself. I'm not trying to bash anyone or start anything. I'm neutral in this but, ANYONE who wants to buy a kitten from a breeder with half a brain is going to ask if they are registered...so you were selling unregistered kittens? From a female that isn't breeding quality (and shouldn't be used as a breeder) and couldn't be classified as purebred? and the lines couldn't be followed for HCM because there would be no record of DNA (because of being unregistered) Really? well since I saw his cattery name and whats to be said about this guy, whats your cattery name please...

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noneofmybusiness
Dover, US
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Nov 27, 2011 7:00 pm EST

Mr Adams Is a ###. rude to all that deals with him .

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mike from massachusetts
Falmouth, US
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Dec 13, 2011 2:32 pm EST

let me tell you about this lier piece of crap who took my $100. deposit & never herd from him & when i finally got ahold of him he acted all in a hurry but your kitten died & i'm gonna make it up to you so months & months gone by after msg after msg & no response i fanally started leaving threatening msgs at his house & that got his attention & bottom line after he promissed me another kitten from some guy he had pick of the litter from studding out his male i finaly called one day and talked to his wife & caught him in a lie she said "o that kitten he sold that kitten" .so i said thank you very much please have him call me & nothing months would go by again & no returned calls. finaly i get ahold of him couse i threatened him again and he calls back leaving me a threatening msg.he then stated he promises as a man of his word he said once i get my unemployment check i will pay you.so i figured well he gave me his word as a man & still to this day over a year since i sent that looser $100 bucks & nothing the guy has gotta be some type of crack head looser. & kinda funny how he gave me the same story about his daughter dieing what a looser to have to bring up his daughters passing to steal money from people. i will find this punk someday. brian adams as a breeder must go. o & then he also said he's giving up cat breeding he's getting into bulldog breeding or some type of breed like that, i would go as far away as i could when i hear that guys name .

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mike from massachusetts
Falmouth, US
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Dec 13, 2011 3:21 pm EST

yes well some people treat there cats as kattel. they have there children do all the feeding and cleaning and they take all the money, and they call themselfs good breeders who do people good deeds and they help people.lol give me a brake.nothing but lies all lies. if they was who they say they are they wouldn't of ripped me off.

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mike from massachusetts
Falmouth, US
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Dec 23, 2011 5:28 pm EST

Brian Adams is a punk ###, he's a rip off artist & he will change his name of company to throw you off.look into who your buying from before you purchase or leave a deposit.they use to call themselfs hairless treasures but now there hairless Gems, Cattery. it's all the same. they ripped me off and there gonna pay when they get a knock on there door from the attorney generals office.you can't say you run a standup buisness but keep leave all these people ripped off and unhappy. my addvice stay far away from anybody who's selling hairless kittens in the delma delaware, Baltimore Maryland erea.

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mike from massachusetts
Falmouth, US
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Jan 01, 2012 9:53 pm EST

i would never buy any thing from hairless treasures or hairless gems it's Brian Adams he's no good there ### they stole $100 bucks from me, never returned my deposit, after he says the kitten died that i wanted, then his wife slipped up and said that he sold that cat, there both no f-ing good wouldn't touch them now i hear they are selling dog pups, huh i realy cant believe there aloud to sell anything. BEWARE ! OF BRIAN ADAMS

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Rosie66
Wilmington, US
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Feb 02, 2014 9:50 pm EST

First off...I bred Chi's and yes they had papers...but as the breeder, I only sold my Chi's as pets so that they would not be bred. You can sell registered animals and put in the stipulation that they are for pets only and no breeding...with AKC, you need the legal documentation from the breeder...CKC, all you need is a few pictures and witnesses and you can have them registered with CKC...but they will never be registered with AKC...a true breeder would know this...