Isagenix International review: Unethical recruiting tactics! 19

They charged me unfairly...then never refunded the money! They promised a refund...in writing...stilll no refund...stay away from this group of thieves!

SCAM- DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME OR MONEY ON THIS!
THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE UNETHICAL IN THEIR BUSNIESS
PRACTICE. NEED I SAY MORE? BUYER BE WARE!

Yes PLEASE! All Network Marketers - ban together...ha ha ha - You're ALL lame!
Isagenix is a good product - I don't sell it, but my wife uses it to lose baby fat after pregnancies. It's a wonderful product.

If you didn't like product or had a defective blender, you should have contacted customer service. The company is growing in leaps and bounds because the products WORK for the majority of people. One has to follow the instructions. We are humans and not all products work for all people - however, I've seen dramatic results in lab work, weight and inch loss. My son was not able to take care of himself, didn't want to be touched, no eye contact. After a short time he came out of his room and started intereacting. He's now acting appropriately with peers, eye contact, hugs and kisses his mom. He even SMILES. We all have better lab work and have ended or reduced "Dr. Written Suggestions" dramatically. My doctor is very pleased with all our results. I'm a little fish in the income range (but watch out!) but I am still treated like big earners. Jim and Kathy Coover have pride in their company and if there is an issue - it will be taken care of. Go to the source, don't complain where it won't be seen and you won't be helped. Blessings! aL

If you purchase product whether you join as a member or not, you're assigned to someone in the company to place orders from them, since each individual has their own website. This makes it easier for you to be able to place orders online rather than being confined to place orders through customer service during our hours of operation. Whoever contacted you, receives your email and phone number so that you could SAVE money and join as member (whether it be to sell the product or just to get the WHOLESALE prices). No scam, Isagenix is like a huge family... the people that contacted you are well established with the company and just wanted you to see the income opportunities.Annamarie is 100% correct we are willing to work with any customer to assist you and figure out what your needs are.

I love the products, have been using them for the past year and a half.
Do not blame the entire company just because one person tried to
recruit you. It is likely because they care about your health and
wellness.

Love the products, love the company and their vision, and I am willing
to work passionately with anyone who would love to give the products
or the business a try.

Did you go directly to the company for a refund within 30 days?
Here is the customer service phone number for you:
Returns: [protected]

The products overall are generally good, but in an economy like this, the prices are driving many users away. Due to the MLM system that the company uses, it becomes more and more difficult for associates to maintain a constant flow of new recruits to keep up there high expected incomes. That is why there is such a high level of failures in the MLM system that most companies use. It discourages many start up recruits when Isagenix stacks the profit deck against you. They require a large gap of effort before you are rewarded with any compensation and keep the difference of all the failures to reach that payout level. They also require yearly membership fees and minimum sales quotas to lock people in. They benefit the most from the 95% failure rate.

If the products are as good as they tout, then they should be able to sell them in the open retail market, rather then creating an incentive for people to sell them at inflated prices to pay for the "make a lot of money" motive. Far too many MLM companies have gone under due to greed, even though they had wonderful products. There comes a time when the economy dictates how a good product should be marketed, rather then always try to milk it for the fast buck.

Could you imagine if everything we bought went through an MLM system. The economy could never sustain the amount of profit it would require to run it. Wake up and "smell the coffee" MLM. Your days are numbered.

Our family has used Isagenix products for over 2 years and we have had more energy, better sleep, and just overall better health. My husband and I have released pounds and inches and I will always have Isagenix products in my home.
As far as making money, some months I do, some months I don't but it's not hard to start making money. Many companies require you to have many people sign up before you start making an income, Isagenix starts paying you after only 2 people come in under you.
I am in agreement with the Isablender, I have cleaned up more messes than I care to tell, BUT I have had a Magic Bullet and had those same results. Personally, I don't think blenders are meant to be used "upside down", if you will.
Thank you Isagenix for making products that work and building a company of integrity!

I am someone who is new to the Isagenix product and not interested in reselling. I've got a good job, a 6-year old son who keeps my busy, hobbies of my own, etc. I don't have time to find others to buy this product. I am 42 and had been wanting to do something about my health for some time now for the following main reasons, 1) to keep up with my son, 2) to keep up with the 20-30 year olds that i play against in my hockey league, 3) to hopefully live longer to see my son grow up and have a family of his own. I'll admit it, I'd love to live till I'm 100! And it ain't going to happen if I keep eating/drinking the way I have been. It's not that I was completely out of shape or anything. Probably the typical 40-year old guy with a bit of tire around the waist, likes to drink beer, occasional burger + fries, pizza every once in a while, etc. But i guess as you get older you are not as active and can't quite burn it off like you used to. It's tough to do something about it on your own. I needed a program to follow. A father of one of the players on my son's baseball team introduced my to Isagenix. I am 3 weeks into the 30-day Cleanse program and have gotten my weight down from 195 to 185 (I'm 5 foot 10). I feel good with a bit more energy. My plan is to get down to 178-180 by the end of this 30-day program. Then stay there by going on the Isagenix maintenance program (Total Health and Wellness System) for the indefinite future. Yes, it's not exactly cheap. But the shakes are meal replacements. So I save on the grocery bill. And I save on not buying beer/alcohol. So I would say that I almost break even in that regard. The only people that I recruit, if ever, will be friends or co-workers of mine that see how it worked for me. I don't plan on pushing this on any of them. The last thing I will say about this product is that you've got have some discipline. There are some days (deep cleanse days) where you don't eat any food at all! It's tough, but definitely doable. Sure you can cheat just a little here and there. But for the most part, I am sticking to what I am supposed to do and it is working. Whenever I have a cheat day, I hit the treadmill for half an hour that night or the next to make up for it. Anyways, that's my two cents on Isagenix.

what is the deal with this thing? is it a scam or not?

Scam -yes. These products made me very sick. I was told by one of their female distributors that it was my "mind playing tricks on me"! While I suffered from the effects of it. ! Also, it is bring used by the main distributor in Australia - D. Miller - to seduce women. He has been found out to be running a sex chat site to lure his victims on Isagenix. All true!

I have been using the products for the last 2 1/2 years and will continue to yes them everyday for the rest of my life! Because of your toxicity, you may have had flu like symptoms for the first 1-5 days, after which you would have felt way better than before you started. @ Rob Roizman, read Forbes Magazine much? For the complete article, google "Forbes would you choose network marketing for retirement income". Here is an excerpt - "The interviews and psychological connections lead me to conclude that MLM and NM companies, along with other small businesses opportunities, are important considerations for anyone entering retirement. In fact, I believe the concept of starting a business for retirement income will become one of the most significant trends impacting retirement in the 21st century. But it has to start with redefining entrepreneurship and framing it into a retirement lifestyle. That means helping people find ways to turn a passion, hobby, or personal desire into extra money in their pocket… not to mention helping people see the importance of planning for the non-financial aspects of retirement such as replacing a work identity, staying relevant and connected, as well as keeping mentally and physically fit.

Something multi-level marketing as well as network marketing companies are poised to capitalize on. As a result, the industry could soon experience larger than life growth, spurred by baby boomers looking to adjust their retirement feelings and plans."
The attached photo shows the difference 8 months of using Isagenix made in my appearance but the most dramatic change has been in how I feel. So much more energy!

Further to my last post, here is a link to the article. http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertlaura/2014/08/29/would-you-join-a-multi-level-marketing-company-for-retirement-income/

I had wanted to order from this company after carefully reviewing the product and seeing friends with results. I am typically very anti MLMs and do not believe in the whole structure of overpricing your products to compensate for having to pay the pawns you have sell on your behalf. However, something still had me interested and I was ready to order from my friend. We made it all the way to checkout when she had to ask for my social security number. I stopped in my tracks. NO COMPANY SHOULD EVER ASK FOR YOUR SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER unless you are applying for credit! They teach their sellers to say this is how you lock in wholesale pricing which is completely untrue. The reason they ask is because without really even letting you know, they try and sign you up for auto-plan (like many infomercials) and while most only need a credit card (therefore the poor soul who forgets or misses a payment can be charged right away anyway), this company skips that whole part (therefore eliminating any safety the customer has to dispute a credit card charge and perhaps not having to pay) and goes right to sending a collections after you, immediately marking your credit report negatively, which cannot be removed. They say they need it so you can get paid as a "Seller" if you choose to do so, but this is pushed upfront, and even if you choose to be a MLM (like Avon, etc.) you should not have to give this info until you are committing to actually be "on the job." This practice is completely unethical and people are just unknowingly giving away their SSN sometimes to strangers over Facebook or email or the phone and are going to get burned. Regardless of the product being perhaps a very good one, I would never endorse or support a company with this tactic. I should have stuck to my gut when it came to knowing MLMs are evil, but this little slip made me remember just how horrible they are. Stay away!

Totally agree with you. Besides, most people don't understand how LOPSIDED mlm's pay plan is, whether it's a binary, break away, matrix, or uni. You only make about 5% of the gross volume you created which is near slavery wages. If your 'downline' produces $100, 000 in business, you make $5, 000 and $95, 000 goes to the company. But YOU are the one who created the business! YOU are building THEIR business, NOT yours! Read the fine print if you think mlm is YOUR business. IT IS NOT. That's why mlm OWNERS and their clicks get FILTHY RICH because someone else is building their business while paying them BREAD CRUMBS. Don't believe me? Go see how your mlm owner lives.

I have used Isagenix since 2009 and it has not made me wealthy because it is net-WORK marketing and I have not put in the hours necessary to make it work. That said, it took less than a year, doing virtually nothing, to get my monthly autoship committment paid for from commission on downline sales, equivalent to just $50 a week. But $50 a week is all it took to get my monthly product order paid for and I do really like their health food products. Yes, I consider them foods and not just supplements. Even if I was paying the $50 each week, without the commissions, then it is $50 less to spend on my weekly food bill. Some weeks I've earned much more, especially when someone buys a 30-day programme package from which I earn USD$50 to USD$100, so if I get two orders in a week a can earn $200 from these customers, which could be online orders that I was not involved in except that they happened to order from my online website. I believe if I really put in an effort for 3 months then my income would go up considerably, but at present I am engaged elsewhere. That said, I love the products, especially given they are free to me each month: I use the Cleanse4Life every month and twice a day on my two days a week restricted calorie days (Monday and Friday). On those days I have an IsaLean shake for a concentrated meal replacement, so that I am not starved my body and cells of nutrients. Every night, an hour before sleep I use the Ionix Supreme developed for enhancing sleep and helping the body adapt to stress (it has 12 or more top adaptogens included in its formula). It really helps! Once or twice a day a take one of the IsaGenesis (originally called Product B) capsules which supports your telomeres (helps them stay longer longer :) and this means keeps your DNA in good/better shape). I now alternate my monthly IsaGenesis with IsPro, which is pure, high grade whey protein and I use this after my twice weekly gym weight training workouts. I add a scoop or two of the IsaPro and Isagenix-Greens (33 superfoods including spirulina and chlorella in a convenient drink powder to preserve phytonutrients) to my shake (I used to use the IsaLean powder as my shake base. But now I just make my own with banana, raw-egg, mixed nuts and seeds plus the IsaPro). And still I get all of this for free just because I have at least 12 active users (either customers or business associates) on my left-leg of the binary and 24 active users on my right-leg, generating 4 cycles a month which earns me my monthly autoship cost of around $50 a week, that is $216 income less $200 cost = a small profit, which covers postage and handling, so ZERO NETT COST for a whole bunch of really healthy food that I enjoy and my body loves. There's no doubt the Isagenix products are of highest quality and have excellent nutritional value. I do agree however, that it is easy to get seduced by the HYPE about the company's mission includes creating more 6- and 7-figure earners than any other company and underplaying the DISCLAIMER that shows that only a small minority of associates will ever attain that level of income and that most will make equal to or less than the cost of their products. The WARNING is to do your due diligence, study the disclaimer, study the Direct Selling Industry and be very aware that those high income figures are generally attained by highly skilled and hard working associates. This is is no way an easy road to fame and fortune. It can be fun if you approach it with the right mindset but it does require putting in the hours, in being very disciplined, focused, organized, resilient, determined, committed and skilled in MLM, skills which can be readily learned but take years to master, like in any profession. Individuals of this calibre and mindset often get very handsomely rewarded by the company, ho regard them and pay them as if they were senior executives. You earn what your worth. You get paid according to your results. It is fair but it require work like in any business or profession. Definitely not a profession for the faint hearted or easily discouraged. Isagenix set high standards for its associates and if you fail to meet those they are assertively, some may say ruthlessly, enforced. Fair enough, Isagenix has the right to protect its brand image, name and reputation. There are many MLM companies that fall far short of Isagenix standards, standards applied to the quality of products and conduct of associates. If you or anyone you know are looking for such a company to work with from the comfort of your own home or car or smart phone, then I can recommend Isagenix.

I entered upon an agreement with a representative that had control over another part of my life. I did not "do the whole deal" and have since then been "trolled" regarding the other part of my connection with her. She has (I believe purposely) misread/misapplied any communication regarding the care of another loved being. She talked about "all the money" she could make with Isagenix, yet did not care if she overdosed the being in her care. I question anyone who is willing to hurt another living being for profit and control. That is called "the Dark Triad"(LOOK IT UP). Are we willing to put up with this immorality? If someone killed a pet, you should be worried. Are we to be continual victims? Take some responsibility and grow free of this junk!
It is not all about this company, but about our willingness to overlook our involvement with immoral/unethical beings. Dear Lord, Buddha, Allah... whatever. It may not be the product, but the greedy individuals which we trusted. Call them on it and do not succumb to their apparent power. Can you say "NO"/ Can they accept "No"?
I agreed upon this diet to help prevent further harassment and abuse(totally desperate of me at the time. What would you do?). Definite power differential... which is theoretically illegal in the US. Ya, right(sarcasm). Be Sovereign.
All I can say is that I stupidly trusted a person with a history of selfishness, Yes, she is EVIL...But I took the chocolate. SAY NO!

They market the products as safe for everyone which is completely untrue. Some individuals do well, but not all. If you have any underlying health issues, especially endocrine imbalances, you need to be judicious with these products. Promoters and recruiters for Isagenix in most cases are laymen and have zero medical professional background, yet market the product family as if they did.

I have asked countless lisenced medical professionals their opinion on Isagenix products, who have no financial interest in the products or company, and every single one has told me not to waste my money because Isagenix product profiles are not unique Or proprietary whatsoever.

I tried several products and could not tolerate any of them. I was able to get a partial refund and lost about a quarter of my initial investment. So in the end, promoting Isagenix as risk free is misleading.

The business model is problematic. If you do not have an academic or professional background in business management, do your due diligence and educate yourself on the failure rates of MLM direct marketing companies. Take what recruiters and promoters say with a grain of salt, knowing that their commission is a direct reflection of how many people they recruit and how much product their recruits purchase. The business model can lead Isagenix promoters to exaggerate product benefits and earning potentials. If it sounds too good, it usually is.

Again, Isagebix products do help some people and supplement incomes, but not all, which you may not be told during the recruitment dance. Not all Isagenix recruiters are unethical, but where there is money and profits to be made, many are prone to deceptive sales and marketing strategies. Most important is that it is not safe for all individuals - The health and financial risks are real which you may never be fairly told by your Isagenix promoter/recruiter.