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Otium Corporation Ltd = ExternalHR Ltd = ExternalHR-international = Shaun Lammas= Shaun Roberts
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Aug 15, 2013 12:32 pm EDT
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One of the mortgages Shaun Lammas (Mirror Man) applied for:

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Aug 15, 2013 12:36 pm EDT
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A copy of our divorce papers. Hey I could hid it but its all over the web anyway. My point is this, its not possible to get divorced if you are not married, so why did mortgage companies and creditors believe him when he said he was single? Are they supposed to confirm stuff before they issue funds secured on a family home? ... I am not a lawyer (or similar) just a woman who thought this type of stuff was not supposed to happen in this country. My mistake obviously.

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Aug 16, 2013 6:58 pm EDT

How strange is this to have 2 people working at the same company "OTIUM" with very similar names...

We have a DR SHAUN ROBERTS
http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/dr-shaun-roberts-bsc-msc-mba-llm/36/182/927 on this link click on compant website - OTIUM
or another link - http://www.yatedo.com/p/Dr.+Shaun+Roberts+BSc, +MSc, +MBA, +LLM/normal/3348dc24b21ae9ee132d03b7b115eb62

Then we have SHAUN ROBERT LAMMAS working at OTIUM - Otium Corporation Ltd — Fraud recruitment agency

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Aug 25, 2013 5:26 pm EDT

More information found worth looking at about Shaun Robert Lammas Company "OTIUM" - Stephen Lee is a Business Manager at Otium IRS Ltd on the http://uk.linkedin.com/pub/stephen-lee/51/600/575 website.
Well Stephen Lees picture on the Linkeden site also matches up to a "Arias Hernandez Paz" on the "World wide Transport Company" take a look at there website - http://www.deliverspeed.eu/en/index-6.php

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Sep 23, 2013 2:18 pm EDT

Yes I would also like to congratulate Shaun Lammas on his impending marriage to Katie Melling on the 28/03/15
Also to Katie Melling on her new company and directorship of "Engineering Technical & Scientific International Recruitment Solutions Ltd"
Lets hope this new Recruitment Agency is very successful.

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The Man Himself
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Oct 18, 2013 10:32 am EDT

Hello All,
I have to say this makes for a very interesting read, I can't believe that people really have this much free time on their hands to not only right this stuff but to actually think of it all in the first place.
I will try and respond to most of the people who have posted on here in the order that they appear, if I don't respond to each post then it doesn't warrant a response in my opinion.
Avnish Jain
The guy who started this thread. Avnish is a guy who was in India, he touted himself to me (as an employee of ExternalHR Ltd) as being a resource he said that he had access to jobsites and linkedin and that he could find us candidates who were interested in our vacant positions. The Director of ExternalHR via myself agreed to engage the services of Avnish Jain to find a number of candidates who he would contact, confirm their interest and get their for a set fee per month. Avnish vanished for a coupled of weeks and said that he had been ill. He then simply copied and paste a few profiles from LinkedIn and sent them across to us. None of the candidates had been contacted or had any knowledge of Avnish and therefore he was not paid and the supplier contract cancelled.

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I believe I know who you are and to be honest I have no idea why your are commenting in any way shape or form about my personal life. You don't know me personally only what you have discussed with Michele (who is by the way not a Gypsy or a Princess, just likes to think she is. I will come back to her later) You giving out warnings to woman, Really?. I have not done anything malice to any woman I have been with, so don't even go there.
Regarding other companies, my last company wasn't ExternalHR Ltd, I was employed by ExternalHR Ltd, I have never been and will never be James Robinson. James Robinson, the sole Director and Shareholder is real, he was also the Director, Shareholder & Founder of one of the largest general recruitment companies in the midlands. ExternalHR Ltd had accountants and Invoice Finance Agreement in place, all of which had known James for many years.
Another quote "big companies are getting fooled and he is only in this to rip people off and to do this he will rip people off and to do this he will use any means of fraud" Now in recruitment as some of you will know, you first get vacancies, then you find suitable candidates by whatever means, the candidate then goes through an interview process and if successful is hired. What part of that process can I possibly do fraudulently. It is up to the client company to make the offer and the candidate if they accept. Once the CV has been submitted I have no involvement in the decision making process.
Regarding the Daily Record article, this was done by a journalist who clearly has no real experience, hence why he is working for this paper. The article admits that for almost a year invoices belonging to Mr Stuart Jack had been paid by Otium Corporation Ltd but then they suddenly stopped. Why would that be? you may ask yourselves. Well the explanation is quite clear, BAE still have an outstanding balance of over £34, 000.00 on their ledger with Otium. Now I understand that BAE have said that they paid invoices relating to Mr Stuart Jack, however if you were to use the services of a supplier, such as BT and you don't pay them for 12 months, then they cut your phone and internet, so you call them and they will tell you the outstanding balance and that the balance needs to be cleared before your service is re connected, you cant just tell them that you will pay the last invoice so that it brings you up to date can you? I am confident that as soon as the balance has been cleared that Otium will pay your outstanding invoices, as per your contract.
I see that you have also posted a link to an article titled Otium Corporation the danger of Tax Free Havens. Well that is a contradiction in terms because all of the VAT was paid on Mr Stuart Jack's invoices.
Now we are back to names again, I have never been and will never be Stephen Lee or Richard Chatwin.
Last but not least, Thank you for your kind wishes and i'm sure Katie will do very well. She is very good.

Gypsy Princess ( My Darling Ex Wife) Miss Michele Betts/Maries/Lammas (or what ever you are known as now)
Good to see that even though I have not seen or heard from you for so many years your imagination is still as good as it always was. I am not really sure where to start with you Michele, should I just go straight to your posts or give everyone a little background into you, me and how we became us and a few of the interesting journeys along the way. I know, I think I will give everyone a brief introduction into you and your mentality first then come to your posts afterwards.

Michele is from a poor background, her parents have never had nothing and probably still don't. Michele and her father are both Ex Bankrupts, I see that she has not posted her or her fathers documents up on this site. I will come back to the Bankruptcies later. When I met her, she had been married once before who she had her first daughter with and then had a long term partner who she had another daughter with. She had never been abroad on holiday nor had any of her immediate family and she was renting an old beaten up house.

How we got together, well, one day once I had finished work I received a call from Michele's mother informing me that she was in a really bad way, she could not sleep and really needed my help and asked if I would go round to speak to them, so I did. It turned out that Michele was absolutely broke, had ripped off Alex Lawrie Factors for around £80, 000.00 and they had suspended her ledger and would not forward her any monies and she needed to pay her workers at the end of the week. So I gave her £5000 so she could pay them. This was how the romance blossomed.

We then became a couple and because her business had pretty much come to a grinding holt because of all the debt we decided to open one together that would specialise in the placement of Ex Forces personnel. For this business her father Mr Dan Betts and I were down as directors and her mother Mrs Margaret Betts was the company secretary. I got a £40, 000.00 start up loan from HSBC bank which was paid almost immediately to Michele to try and stop Micheles pending Bankruptcy but it was no where nearly enough so the Bankruptcy continued and she became Bankrupt. Later her Father, Mr Dan Betts also had to declare himself Bankrupt but this was for personal reasons if I remember correctly.

So this straight away shows that virtually everything Michele has posted so far is nothing more than her imagination running wild.

Just to give you a further insight into Michele, her ex, who is the father of her youngest daughter and who had recently been diagnosed with cancer had to take Michele to court because she would not allow him to see their daughter, when the court ruled that she had to allow him to see his daughter, Michele took this very personally and found it hard to deal with, so Michele and her mother Margaret Betts hatched up a plan and they decided that they would try and poison him when ever he visited the house to see her, Margaret being an ex nurse knew all about medication and so each time he came round the house they would put something in his drink, increasing the dose each time. The guy even suspected them of doing this and the reason they new this was because he wouldn't even have a drink unless it was from a sealed bottle and they used to laugh about it.

In summary, when I met Michele neither her nor her family had two pennies to rub together, so they certainly had nothing to lose. I suppose in a way I should be glad that all she has done to me is try and discredit me on this site and not tried to kill me like she has done in the past.

Now to the posts:
The only debt I ran up was re mortgaging the house a couple of times so I could continue to pay you and your families wage bill each month for doing NOTHING all day, oh sorry, no I tell a lie, listening to your dad talk about when he was in the prison service, bragging like he was an old war veteran when all he really was, was a screw.
I have never used an old team members name to act as a director.
James Robinson is James Robinson, check his name on companies house.
When I met you, you were pennyless, broke and broken so no change there then. You don't have any of the debt, you were Bankrupt.
I see that you also "name and shame" Mr Tom Atkinson of Keen Thinking, after we had split up and the company been put into liquidation, is that the same Tom Atkinson who set you up in business based in Redditch? and is that little building you talk about the triple set of garages on a plot of land that I signed over to you as part of the divorce? which was infact everything I owned and not just half.
The reason no one is interested is because I have done nothing wrong and you have no evidence to prove otherwise just hear say, speculation and your over excited imagination.
The email to the PM: Well I think everything above proves that everything in that email which was written by her mother Margaret Betts is total and utter rubbish: a few quotes which are nothing more than utter garbage:
"A business that she had built up over a number of years" the business that was forced to close by Alex Lawrie Factors which was called Wandds Direct Recruitment
"Took a sabbatical and he took over for 6 months, he took her business and she lost her home" You never took a sabbatical, you lost your business by de frauding Alex Lawrie Factors.
The CSA know exactly where I am and have an attachment of earnings on my wages.
As for the re mortgages, it was always you that told me to get them and it was you that always hid your clothes and stuff away for when the surveyor came and again the reason you were never mentioned was because you were Bankrupt.
Yes very strange how two people with similar names could work at the same company.
I have no idea why you have to bring Katie into any of this.
I can confirm that I do infact work for Otium and will continue to do so for the very distant future and you will all be seeing a lot more of Otium doing many other different things. New website is currently being designed and will be live soon.
Thank you for your kind wishes and i'm sure unlike yours Katie's business will be a success, she is very good at what she does.

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I have no idea who you are or who you are talking about. If you are referring to my ex who I left earlier this year, who I had infact lived with since April 07, then I guess she isn't as good a friend as you say she is because she has 4 children and two of them are mine. Again, this just shows that everything you are writing is complete rubbish and you are obviously just jumping on the bandwagon. If you are talking about my ex then really don't make me go into detail on this site why we split up.

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findthisman!
Again, who are you?

Don't get me wrong everyone makes mistakes and I will own up to any mistake I have made, just like the incident with Keen Thinking Ltd, which was investigated by the police by the way and it was found that there were no charges to answer, but seriously you lot are just obsessed. And I have to be honest, I am actually quite flattered Michele that even after all this time you have nothing better to do than google me because honestly I have not thought of you at all. I must of had a massive impact on you, well I do remember you breaking down, crying and begging me not to leave you on a number of occasions, but thought you would of got over me by now.

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gypsy princess
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Oct 19, 2013 2:00 pm EDT
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Dear 'The Man Himself', Thank you for your expansive reply, it took longer than we expected. I can now confirm that you have indeed acted as I was advised you would. We now have enough information about you so thank you for that also. As you are aware you can see that I supplied confirmation of information, otherwise known as 'proof'. Your slanderous comments made about my family and myself are just that; slander. I apologize to everyone who was trying to use the site for genuine reasons, as it appears my ex-husband has chosen to use the site just to 'rant' in a libelous fashion. I can confirm however that this, for me will not continue, enough evidence is now gathered for me to pass on to the required officers. So I leave now with just one final comment; dear Shaun, thank you for staying so true to form, I was worried for a while that you would not take the bait and even told my advisers so. But they are the professionals and therefore are proven to be correct, you did indeed 'bite'. Leopards and spots sir, leopards and spots.

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Oct 20, 2013 1:01 am EDT
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You really should hang your head in shame, your lies and the accusations made about me and my family are obviously created purely to cause maximum hurt.
Why would any decent person do such a thing? That does appear to be the answer, no decent person would do that.
You really should make sure you can prove what you say is true, before you post information online.
What you said is neither true or in the public interest. It is deceitful, slanderous and pure libelous torment, entered with malicious intent to cause harm, defamation of character and affect financial circumstances.
My 'posts' were made as public interest posts, were provable and not made to create detrimental impact for your relatives (who are not mentioned), they were made to assist and or protect people from your fraudulent activity, which despite your protestation has actually been proven by Keen Thinking in the two Manchester court cases and this is why the two claim numbers lodged against you still exist and accrue daily interest, by the way.
I concede that these forums by their very nature are publicly view-able and so by being involved we each risk vehement responses. We certainly do not expect to be accused of attempted murder or any of the other lies you state.
I did not deserve the treatment you gave and neither did my family, we helped you from the first day we met you. I found your first job for you when you left the Army, invited you into my home and gave you a new career too. My Father only ever tried to pass on knowledge to you when needed, he told you that all people should be treated fairly and with respect, despite public opinion sometimes and each man deserves fair treatment. This was one of the reasons I ran my campaign to find work for ex-offenders, visiting prisons across the UK (as a volunteer service) to help people find work and new beginnings. We helped well over a hundred people because of that prison programme alone, and yes, my Father advised me about how to work with the service properly, so very sorry if that bored you, you never were involved with the prison programme. The prison programme was why I started my ex- Armed Forces division, because in every prison group I found ex-armed forces members who desperately needed help, so I helped. My team and I even helped and I trained you when you joined the company, so that you could help. So, shame on you. When we had difficulties with a very personal court custody case I chose to concentrate on spending time with my Daughters, you and I were getting married and everything was rather 'busy', so you took over the company to allow me to focus on my Daughters when they needed me. That was when your bad behaviour started, but that is hardly the right subject for this board and would be disclosing too much information. The business, I started my recruitment agency in 1999, after a career in sales and recruitment, which is when you left the Armed forces possibly (?), you signed up as a candidate seeking work. You lived in a flat over a chip shop (there is no shame in that), I lived in a house rented from a family friend in the village I grew up in, a beautiful half timbered house built by the staff of the Earl of Plymouth. On the opposite side of the road to my Parents pretty rose covered cottage. You fell in love with my (did you say run down cottage?), you bought it when we got married, so well done you. You re-mortgaged it and we were homeless a couple of years later. I have never discovered (neither did the Police or Courts) what you did with the money. Despite your claims about me, your money did not come in my direction or to my family, it did not pay any of the things you claim it paid, although I don't know what you are talking about with reference your statements anyway. With reference the company started by Tom Atkinson in Redditch in which he employed me, it was started purely as a way of paying off your debt to him, as your wife he thought I was at least probably partially responsible or that I could perhaps help him get his money back. It didn't work out. He was only interested in pursuing you and did not care what methods were used, I refused to comply because I refuse to be involved in that type of nastiness. So I have enough said now, I think. Any more would be a waste of time and effort.
I continue to wish the people who are involved in this case luck and now publicly state that I hope that the information provided on this board is sufficient, I am fed up of being contacted about things involving this man and intend, once again, to pursue a fresh start. So please do not ask for my help after this situation is over.

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The Man Himself
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Oct 21, 2013 9:24 am EDT

Oh gypsy princess, you really are something. Still as manipulative as you always were.

Wow, I must of really hit a nerve, what's up? did you actually forget about the truth and start believing your own stories? No wonder you call yourself an Author these days, I can only assume it is fiction that your writing.

Unlike everything you wrote, everything I wrote can be proven. The Bankruptcies, simply check the lists. Your companies Wakefield & Daughters Ltd and WANDDS Direct Recruitment. Even the fact I had to give you £5000 so you could pay your temporary workers because we had a meeting with your business bank manager Mr Ian Monk of Lloyds TSB and discussed it with him.

Wakefield and Daughters Ltd was the company that found me my first job after leaving the Armed Forces your quite right, but again you forget to mention that this company was forced to shut because your partner refused to work with you any longer. You then started Wandds which was later forced to cease trading by your invoice finance company. Why do you insist on trying to manipulate the facts?

I purchased the house, the house and the mortgage were in my name, clearly at the time you didn't have two pennies to rub together so why you insist on putting claims to something you never owned I don't understand. As the house was mine, it gave me the right to do with it what I wanted to do. When I met you, you had even borrowed money off your landlady which was agreed that you would pay back so much per month on top of your rent. You were even struggling to make those payments, your landlady's husband had to constantly chase you. Again, can be proven.

Your correct, you didn't mention my family on here or on any of the other sites that you have written your malicious lies on however you have mentioned Katie a number of times and you have even announced to the world that we have recently had twins, again this is factually incorrect because the twins are not mine and I have only been with Katie for a few months. There was no need to mention Katie at all, you don't know Katie and probably never will. You think you know me so well when in reality we split up in 2005 and haven't even seen each other let alone spoken since the very least 2007 Everything you write is just complete garbage.

Once you started spreading your malicious lies on here and on various other sites it became clear that it was in fact in the publics interest to know a little about the person who was behind them and obviously the moderators agreed otherwise they would not of allowed the comments to be published on the site.

All this from a woman who actually believes that she was Ann Berlin in a previous life.

Oh and just one more thing, on the 15/06/2010 you joined a site called Jacketflap and when you set up your profile you used a picture from our wedding which had taken place 7 years beforehand. We had even been split up over 5 years, maybe this is proof enough that you just cant let go and all this is nothing more than a bitter ex trying to seek revenge for me leaving her.

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Oct 21, 2013 10:09 am EDT

For almost 2 years i have been working as a contractor via Otium and i have to admit i nor anyone i know have ever had a single problem with them as an organisation or any of the members of staff that we have had the pleasure of dealing with. I have recommended Otium to friends and colleagues previously and will continue to do so. I can only disagree with what has been posted so far.

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gypsy princess
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Oct 21, 2013 10:13 am EDT
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You throw nothing but Slander and lies at me . I responded to you only because the Police advised me too, this unfortunately is what is called a civil matter, although I see nothing civil about it. in fact it's just rather nasty. If you are that convinced you tell the truth then go to the Police, claim defamation and slander. Present them with your 'proof'. You will be told the same as me; it's a civil matter. You commented before about people have been using 'Google' to find things out about you, I guess you did the same with 'Jacketflap'.
Not sure who Ann Berlin is, isn't Berlin in Germany? But then it doesn't really matter.
My original business partner retired, but I guess you don't like simple explanations. All the other things you say are really rather pathetic and very very silly, even the comment on the photo, why on earth would that be worth commenting on. You are just showing what sort of man you are. This was a forum about business dealings; yours. You made it personal. I don't suppose you will believe and really that doesn't matter, I am only responding so other readers know things, but it wasn't me who found out about Katie, I was sent the info by a person who was too scared to post information but has apparently also been affected by you (after we split up) he asked me to put it online so that if there was a link to you then people would be aware.
It was, I admit, really stupid of me to get involved with trying to help people on this board who say that they are your 'victims' and have asked for my assistance. It was stupid of me a couple of years ago to help Government officials who are investigating you and contacted me via one of your old suppliers, they 'insisted' that I should give them copies of information to do with your business dealings etc, (probably shouldn't have told you that but frankly does it matter because nothing happened anyway).
I actually do wish Katie luck, it's good to see women succeed in business, again that doesn't matter.
Some of the other comments on the board were not made by the people you think they are, but I am certainly not going to tell you names, in the same way I did not have any private contact with them, or 'feed' them information.
I repeat I have been told by the Police to defend myself on this board from your malicious and defamatory comments. You (as I said earlier) made this VERY personal and nasty. I was also told that what you are doing now is a form of Domestic Abuse. I will therefore also report this latest 'post' back to them.
So, carry on, say anything you like, it matters not what I may or may not say in response, people will believe or not as they see fit. I will not post anything else on here, so there you are, you have 'free reign' to try and defame, demoralize, destroy or whatever else you feel like doing. Play games, bully and intimidate all you like, but remember you are doing it in full public view now.
You painted a picture by the way of a woman who suffered great hardship and difficulty and still managed to stand up and face it, managed to carry on despite all those problems. So in a way I should feel flattered, I almost wish I was that woman, because she should be so very proud of being a survivor and finding a way, any way possible to keep going. I have to admit though, proud as that would have made me, it's not me. My life was not quite that interesting. But like you said I am an Author (oh and how pleased I am that I write under a different name!). You have just given me the foundation points for a marvelous story. Please do believe this though, every comment you make to me or about me or anyone connected to me will be reported to the Police. You of course have the same rights, so carry on, report away.

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Oct 21, 2013 10:49 am EDT

I have just commenced my fourth back to back project whilst contracting through Otium and have no complaints what so ever.

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Oct 21, 2013 10:50 am EDT

Pathetic... absolutely pathetic! Has chose to comment seeing as my others on another incorrect blog havent shown, your vendeta against shaun had nothing to do with me till you broadcasted my name on the internet michele, more importantly you mention my kids... id appreciate if you would remove them i do not wish any info of my kids to be on the internet. I also put on my other comment if you carry on printing incorrect info about me my buisness or my private life i will take this further! Your nothing but a bitter ex wife who years on still uses the same surname, wedding pictures that relate to a man you hate so much, im sorry but if it was me id be rid of the surname for a start wanting nothing more to do with them n id burn my wedding pictures...

An as the 3rd victim... well for a start i have never been so appreciated loved... the list is endless. Id just like to point out even though its early days for our relationship i have known shaun for nearly 15 yrs, yrs before you two even met. As for shaun worming his way in to my house and my life i pursued him as much as he pursued me, it was also me who asked shaun to marry me, hes nothing but a hard working man who looks after his own. I couldnt ask for a better person to be step dad to my four children, my 4 kids absolutely adore shaun an welcomed him into our lives.

So im sorry to disappoint you all but this woman is full of rubbish because if i am the 3rd victim im sure as hell a happy one...

Speaking of hell michele the only princess you are is a princess of darkness!

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Oct 22, 2013 8:07 am EDT
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I agree this has all become very 'Big Brother'.
I was stupid enough to become involved in trying to help some people, it went too far, I agree with that too.
I have tried to get the posts removed by Complaints board, but apparently they have a policy of not removing anything, it doesn't matter to them what is said it is not removed unless a court order is sent forcing them to act. So, no chance of that.
Upsetting as it is to be attacked and slurred in such a way. To have lies and slander entered here about me and my family and about things that really are nothing to do with the public, this board or the original complaint against Otium, there is nothing I or anyone can do to remove the information, the damage is done.
Lessons (as they say) have to be learnt. People really are that cruel.
The things said by 'Very Happy Third Victim' are quite wrong though. I have not, I repeat HAVE NOT, said those things. I mentioned you only as the owner of the new company and your impending marriage.
I HAVE NOT mentioned your children.
That is wrong, I would NEVER bring someones family into this type of thing, it is morally the wrong thing to do. I know you will not believe that, but it mattered to me that honesty happened here.
Please remember that other people have entered messages too. I have only ever posted as 'Gypsy Princess' and that by the way was because of a Van Helsing film character, it was very 'tongue in cheek'.
I have NOT posted as anyone else.
Whilst on the subject of names; when I married 'the man himself' it legally changed my name and I am legally entitled to carry on using it, so whatever your feelings on the matter I can assure you that 1, it is NONE of your concern, 2, it would be a real pain to change ALL documents etc with my name on, 3, it has nothing to do with 'hanging on to the past'. Its laughable that you would be arrogant enough to think I would still care. Now, back to other things I HAVE NOT said anything about you being a victim and HAVE NOT mentioned your children. So please, before you all get carried away with your hatred and attacks, remember to be sure about who has really attacked you.
I do know who wrote those things, it was not anyone connected to me, it was actually a couple of people who I believe deserve to remain anonymous, but are much closer to you than you would expect, it is up to them if they want you to know who they are, but I would hope that when they see how you have attacked me they will realise what they have done already is too much and leave this board and you alone.
No one deserves to be treated so badly. I did not deserve what you have done to me and I believe that you are understandably upset about being included on this board so, I apologise for anything I said that may have caused upset to anyone undeservedly.
And on that note being fully aware that there is no more I can do here to rectify matters, I can only hope that anyone with any degree of intelligence or compassion will see that the attacks upon me were purely malicious and deliberately hurtful and that I have tried to put things right, but expect that my attackers will not show the same degree of humanity and that it is there choice to behave as they see fit.
I sincerely wish you all well and confirm that I will now leave you all to do whatever you feel, but remove myself from this board voluntarily and with immediate effect and so will not see any of your responses (if there are any) anyway.
With reference the length of time you have known each other by the way (Katie and Shaun) I knew your parents were friends with him, when they came to our wedding, but honestly I didn't know he had known you for a full 15 years. So that would mean he has known you since you were a little school girl of what 13 years old? As an older woman I advise you (even though I know you wont want my advise), be cautious, maybe you shouldn't tell us that type of thing, its a bit TOO personal for a board like this and I suggest you are more careful in future. Maybe that type of thing should remain, really REALLY private, once it's on the Web apparently it never goes away.
I should have known better, but even an older person can be naive and forget to be careful whilst trying to help others who actually vanish once trouble starts.
By the way, if anyone else wants to send a court order to Complaints Board requesting removal of posts the address is:
MEDOLEX LTD, Smerla 3 - 216a, Riga, NO LV - 1079, Latvia,
So good luck with that. Fat chance of any assistance.

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Nov 01, 2013 5:17 am EDT

This is nothing but slander and jealousy aimed at the couple in question, You all seem to be so concerned with what they are doing...

Here's a question for you... Why don't you all get on with your own miserable live's instead of attacking Shaun and Katie.

I personally know the couple very well, Katie obviously knew Shaun through her father, there knowing each other for that amount of time doesn't suggest anything. Did you never talk to adults as a youngster gypsy princess?

You have simply twisted what was said insinuating nothing but a load of rubbish. It's sick minded people like you that cause no end of trouble because you CLEARLY have nothing better to do..

I've also noticed you don't know Katie at all, I can also confirm she is far from stupid or naive and has had more than enough life experience to handle herself or indeed this supposedly sinister man.

Everything Katie does is for her kids and won't let anything or anyone ruin that including her work, Katie is a strong believer in not mixing work and pleasure. They both do their own thing were work is concerned. Having read above comments maybe that's were you went wrong...

Would appreciate you left them to it there both old enough to know whats what, and don't need your concern.

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Avnish Jain
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Nov 01, 2013 3:26 pm EDT
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The Man Himself

Why dont you accept that you are a big time looser and a cheater.
If You found my profile you should have said me at the same time.

you accepeted all profiles and said the reults are good.

Do you want me to show the emails ? ?

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Nov 01, 2013 3:33 pm EDT
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Nov 11, 2013 5:03 am EST

Wow, I worked for Shaun at M&DL and I did not receive a penny off him! I worked on a commission based to start with, then I got told I would be put on salary, yeah nothing changed still did not get paid! On the plus side I would not be where I am today if it was not for working for this cowboy as the experience of calling people all day gave me the experience I needed to get into recruitment! I would not advise any one to work with or do any business with this man.

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Jan 29, 2015 11:35 am EST
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Shaun Lammas sentenced to 2 1/2 yr imprisonment in Manchester on 26/1/15

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Mar 10, 2015 1:44 am EDT

January 2015 Mr Lammas was sentenced to 1 count of fraud trading for which he was given 2 years in prison .2 counts of being involved with the forming of a company while being disqualified for which he was given two 6 months custodial sentences and banned AGAIN for being a director for a further 12 years. Let's hope he has plenty of time to think about what he's done to all those innocent people.

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Mar 10, 2015 2:03 am EDT

On the 26th of January 2015 Shaun Robert Lammas was convicted at Manchester Minshull Court of the following offences:
One count of Fraudulent Trading for which he received a two year custodial sentence
Two counts of being involved in the formation of a company whilst disqualified for which he received two six month custodial sentences to be served concurrently.
In addition he was also banned as a director, again, for a further twelve years with his disqualification due to expire on the 27th of January 2027.