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IVY CAPITAL Dishonest Sales techniques

Everyone - Beware. This company tells you everything you need to make lots of money on the internet. They target people who are older or have lost their jobs. They tell you they want to make you their "success story" but don't believe them. They only want your money. They charge different prices for different people based on how much credit you have available. They will tell you that you are very teachable and make you feel like you can be successful, but the program is confusing and difficult. They also go by the name of Fortune Learning systems, ICI Success, and the newest one which is Apply Knowledge Institute. Believe me when I tell you this is not a program you will want to do. Take a look at all the complaints on the Complaint Board.

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Mar 08, 2011 3:47 am EST

I agree 100%. I feel for some of these people when they have spent thousands of dollars, I guess I should say ripped off for thousands of dollars. I only lost a couple of hundred dollars. I signed up for this Auction Job Finder program and paid the dues. A Bob Watson at [protected] called me a couple of days later and said that he would be there to provide a personal coach and they would be calling me in a couple of days. Well that was 2 months ago. Funny thing when I read all of the info on the internet and listened to the video done by this Catherine Thomas (Google Catherine Thomas scam). I do not know how this package I purchased ended up with ICI Success and Bob Watson at Ivy Capital. Because I asked him when he called if he knew Catherine Thomas and he said no. Maybe and maybe not, BS. There web site is now debunked and all of the phone number I have all lead to nobody home. At the Bob Watsons [protected] number the message says to send an email to info@icisuccess.com. I have done that today but who knows, that is probably BS too. It is too bad these idiots don’t think long term and get a real profession and make some residual income instead of making a gob from some poor suckers like us then leave town to hide.
I already have a very honest networking business that I have been working on for many years so I think I will get back to the long term thinking myself and work harder on what I already have. The company I am working with has been around for 52 years making awesome products, and my support group has been around for almost 40 years so I think I will stick with them.
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IVY CAPITAL Rip Off?

I received a phone call from ICI because I had inquired with someone else about working from home. They are VERY persuasive! First, they find out what your credit limits are on your credit cards and then, you speak with the first man (Paul)'s boss, Michael Boss (strange that his last name would be Boss). Michael then sells you on the program by promising that you will not lose any money -- if you do not make it back in 3 months then it will be returned to you. We were told that we could invest at an Aggressive rate of $6, 075; Moderate rate of $5, 015; or Conservative rate of $4, 060. We decided that we would go with the Conservative rate which Michael agreed with completely. I was then connected with Teresa in Compliance who read the sales agreement to me stating that we had three days to change our minds. Then she sent this agreement to Yozons Technology for me to read and sign. I had a problem that I was the only one signing the agreement and questioned it. When Teresa could not satisfy my questions, I was once again connected with Michael. He did not answer my questions. Before I spoke to Teresa, Michael made an appointment with me for my coach and he to call me on Monday, February 15, at 1:00 PM EST. After thinking about this all night, on Sunday, February 14, I felt like this was "too good to be true" and so it probably was not true and decided that I needed to cancel. I went online and checked my bank and my credit card I saw that there was a hold on my account until February 19, which with the banks being closed on Monday, February 15, would be the 3 days. According to my contract, I had to notify them in writing at their Las Vegas office. I sent a letter overnight delivery which they will receive today; however, when I checked my bank and credit card today, ICI has already submitted for payment on both accounts. The credit card company is going to help me dispute this charge, so we will see what will happen. I feel so foolish for being taken in by these guys. It is sad that individuals in these hard times would make their living by taking advantage of people in their time of need! If this gets resolved, I will print a retraction of this complaint. Thanks!

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May 23, 2010 4:19 pm EDT

You are so correct. I'm glad you found another legitimate job. I did finally get my money back, but it was a continual battle for over 2 months.

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May 20, 2010 1:29 pm EDT

YOUR STORY IS VERY COMMON. WHEN I FIRST WORKED THERE MY SALES WERE OK. THEN I STARTED ASKING ALOT OF QUESTIONS, OVER HEARING THINGS, AND LISTENING TO COMPLAINTS AND I BEGAN TO LOSE FAITH IN THE COMPANY. MY SALES WENT DOWN AND I EVENTUALLY FOUND A BETTER JOB...SOMETHING LEGITIMATE.
WHEN THEY GAVE YOU THAT "OTHER PEOPLES MONEY" LINE YOU SHOULD ASK IF IT WOULD ALSO BE "OPD" OTHER PEOPLES DEBT? NOPE...YOU GOTTA PAY IT.

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IVY CAPITAL Taking my $

11/24/09
I had a phone call today 3:00 pm from Mr.John Boss who convinced me to buy the online start your own business for $4, 730.00 usfunds. I remembered hearing that on the recorded telephone conversation that I had 3 days to cancell. I must have contacted 9 people via phone and email (from 5:00pm - 7:30pm) to cancell or at least find out the steps to go about cancelling. After all that I finally got a phone call back from Mr.Boss he argued and flat out told me NO NO I WILL NOT CANCELL YOUR CONTRACT! something must have happened to change your, mind, your scared. I must have told him over 25 time no word of a lie over 25 times "I WANT TO CANCELL". He just said NO! I asked to speak to his supervisor, he said he was the supervisor and that he will call me back tomorrow to see if I am OK, and talk some more.

I was not satified with this so I called the 888# back and talked to yet another person, not expecting to get anywhere of course, but the gentlman I spoke to was very helpfull, he said that he could see that I had called and emailed a number of times and doesnt know why noone got back to me. He cancelled my contract and game me a confirmation# and said that it would take 7-10 business days for the refund to show up on my creditcard.
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Should I beleive them about the cancellation, what should I do next? If I wait the 7-10 days (that past the cancellation period)what then if it doesnt refund back on my card. Does anybody have any advice for me?
Any help you could provide would be appreciated.
Signed newly seperated mother of 3 young children.

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This is a scam. To get your FULL Refund NOW:

1. Call ClickBank [protected] directly to file dispute (get your reference # ready) and you will get your refund initially charged by ClickBank and you will get refund within minutes. I guess this is a known and recurring dispute at ClickBank.
2. File dispute over request of the transactions charged via PayPal (especially people with PRO upgrade) and you will get refund within minutes. I guess this is a known and recurring dispute at PayPal, too.

Don't bother to email homewebsitecenter.com for any refund because you will waste your time and get nothing back.

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Mar 02, 2010 11:30 pm EST

I am jobless and desperately looking for a job, i got scammed of these Shell Company..At first the Website named MyProfitSite.com, i paid $49.95 they send me the link it became HomeWebsiteCenter.com theres an automated website but it needs more money to Pro $$47.95 to open, plus $ 49.94 for the Traffic Engines, in 4 weeks never earned any cents..4 weeks after Bruce calls me he wants me to Invest $3, 800.00 and lots of promising he said in just 2 or days i will earn a thousand of dollars, and paid-off all my depths. This woman named Pat, record my voice while signing the contract with no business address. They sent me some the links to follow it shows at the bottom ICI it meant Ivy Capital Inc., E Capital, and also the VianetWebzone it makes me so confuse. Few days after another person calls me Chris he wants me to put another Investment $$$$$$7, 280.00 for the name of my Website seems makes me so so so confuse, i cancelled my subscription never open the website at all no coaching happened.. I sent them emails all of the addressess but theres no reply of my cancellation, i call this number [protected] but answering machine no person. I received a reply from them but not for the cancellation they want me to speak the ICI System Resolution Department, this woman name Melinda insisted that she is not affiliate with those people, she deny that she never recieved my email and she still selling their product and so rude she threatened me that they will sue me.. She still want me to pay the $$3, 800.00 no matter what, this people are slugs, greedy liar..

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JeffJackson.com
MyProfiteSite.com
HomeWebsiteCenter.com
ICI it meant Ivy Capital Inc.
SuccessTeamFinance.com
VianetWebzone.com
Universal Account Servicing, LLC
NB Online Marketing

I already file the case against this business with BBB. To All those Victims I will be there to support the complain..
I dont sale anything i just put this name of my email 'coz i thought i could a business at home: saleproduct@ymail.com

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dragonfly10
Warrensburg, US
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Nov 30, 2009 1:59 pm EST

I signed up the same day as newly separated mom of 3. I've been inundated with phone calls by sales people and affiliate partners, etc., and it wasn't until after i signed the contract that I realized the coaching sessions amount to FOUR, not one a week for the first six months as I was originally told. Also, I have tried to call back to cancel. I spent an hour on the phone with my salesman's supervisor, trying to tell him no. After that, I emailed and called, but got no response. I have called my credit card company. They told me to try to resolve the matter with ICI first; but if I couldn't get a refund, then I could initiate a charge back. But I'd have to wait until the charge actually went through; since it's only listed as "pending" right now. Trust me, as soon as it posts, I'll be on the phone!

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South Portland, US
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Nov 28, 2009 10:26 am EST

Did Ivy Capital send you an e-mail confirming your refund would be made in 7-10 days? If yes, then you can work with your credit card company if Ivy doesn't pull through for you.

I absolutely agree with you and your complaint against Ivy Capital. I did the same thing but didn't get my money back. I do take responsibility for letting them talk me into it but I called my credit card company and asked them to stop the charge. It was within the 3 day period and I couldn't get through to Ivy Capital. I dealt with Jon Foss who may be the same person you refer to as John Boss...

They are very strong and persuasive sales people though they deny that is their role. They go right for the jugular and talk the talk so that it sounds like you can't go wrong. The problem is that you don't know the details of what you are agreeing to until well beyond the 3 days and then they refuse to reimburse you. My credit is going down the tubes for the first time in my 57 years because I live on unemployment to cover rent and food and can't keep up with $270 monthly payments. Jon and his coworkers have all the answers to that concern as well. The problem is until you make money you can't afford it. My total with Ivy Capital was $8800.00! I've never said yes to anything like this before. Now it's been since July and I'm financially and mentally stretched to the point of breaking.

I can't nor ever wanted to have the home business they sell you. I talked to someone last week at Ivy Capital who had never heard any of the training programs they set me up with and are not at all useful. They wouldn't reimburse me and I feel my doctor should get involved. I called back and asked for a partial refund - "NO" was the answer. What's particularly frustrating is that these IVY CAPITAL employees who promise to help you do whatever it takes to succeed won't provide you with their direct contact information.
Hmmmm! I wonder why?!?!

Can you suggest any further steps for me to take?

Thank you,
Jane in New England

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IVY CAPITAL internet scam / fraud

Thank you internet! After reading all of the complaints against this company we realized we may have saved ourselves over $12, 000 today. The comments by the other posters with complaints against this company "Ivy Capital" and its associated sites (myprofitsite, com; webcentre.com; clickbank.com; surveyclub.com; MediaHub) almost perfectly describe the exact sequence of events we went through. After "George" made sure we "qualified" for the program for over an hour and a half and collected our info, he got his "manager, Chad" to call us back for the real sales job. After another couple of hours wearing us down, my husband starting to research the company while we were on the phone and a few well worded questions about the complaints against his company started to make him squirm. We asked him to phone back tomorrow after we had a chance to discuss. We are lucky to only be out a few hundred (US$) and are now disputing all charges and fees we have incurred. We'll see.
I'm sorry to say we actually almost fell for this scam and see how people who appear to be in difficult situations can get sucked in too. Shame on people who take advantage of others.

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Mike Speiser
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On September 4, 2009 I got involved with a “work at home” through the internet that involved processing auction listings. It was with “Emily Thomas, work at home recruiters”. (The money was taken by IVI Capital Inc Houston TX) The ad claims that they can show you how to make an extra $195+ a day with no prior experience, education, or special skills, and, only working an hour or two a day. I signed up, using my Discover card for $10, 000 and Master Card for $4, 000. I was given a coach from F.L.S. who started teaching me how to create and manage a website. It seemed to have nothing to do with auction listings, but I thought, this must be what I have to know to be a lister. Last month 12-29-09 I was told by my coach that my time had run out, putting me” on my own” with little knowledge of getting my website on the web, let alone, processing auctions. I have spent well over 8 hours a day during my coaching, and more than that after my coaching stopped, trying to figure out how to finish building the site. To date I am still lost on how to do the site.
I am asking for your help on what I can do about getting the money back. I
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Canyon Lake, US
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Sep 17, 2010 12:13 pm EDT
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It's simple to get your money back if you can stand up to these [censor], but be forewarned they check this site, and have ambulance chasers call and send certified letters to you. I was able to help a friend of mine recover their lost money (16000.00+), but it takes a big commitment to get it from all of these phony companies. In my state it is legal to record a conversation as long as one party on the call is aware (me or you not them). Send us a message if you need or want the help...

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IVY CAPITAL scam

AFTER PROMISING A LUCRATIVE BUSINESS THEY SOAKED ME FOR 6880.00. THEY PROMISE TO GIVE YOU A WEB SITE THEN COME TO FIND OUT YOU HAVE TO DESIGN IT YOURSELF WITH THE HELP OF A PROGRAM, THEN THEY SAY YOU GET 6 MONTHS OF TRAINING AND ACTUALLY YOU GET 4(SOMETIMES) 1 HOUR SESSIONS. AND THATS ONLY AFTER YOU WATCH 4 WEB VIDEOS... SO I DID A LITTLE INVESTIGATION ON THIS COMPANY anD THE SO CALLED SENIOR BUSINESS DIRECTOR DANIEL BILLS... it seems that DANIEL BILLS is actually named Jeremy CHENY GOOGLE HIM AND SEE WHAT YOU read about him this man and this company are both liars and scam artists... This company employs him to take your money and then avoid your calls for 72 hours so that you cant cancel your deal just call your credit card company and tell them you are not getting your promised results and start a procedure called a charge back Stay away from IVY CAPITOL OR THE INTERNET SUCCESS TEAM OR YOU TOO COULD BE A VICTIM

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Jan 22, 2010 8:50 am EST

Thanks for posting your experience. Did you get your money back?

I search this company the next day after signing up and found all these complaints.

It all started when I signed up for Jeff Jacksons website akaMYPROFITSITE.COM
then I started receiving calls from all the scam companies. ICI Sucess, IVY Capitol, Apply Knowledge Institute and others.

Then I called my Chase credit card they knew everything about this scam they said they are also operating in several country.
They told me to immediately cancel my credit card before the money was charged. The amount was $10, 800 he said since it was a huge amount it was still pending and it takes 3-5days to process.

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ACTAULLY THIS ISNT A COMPLAINT BUT A RECOMENDATION.. I INVESTED 6880.OO WITH THIS COMPANY. I WAS TOLD THIS WAS INFACT NOT A GET RICK SCHEME THAT I WOULD HAVE TO WORK AT IT, BUT PROMISED RESULTS IF I FOLLOWED INSTR. AND DID THINGS THEY TAUGHT ME. i HAVE BEEN AT THIS FOR 16 WEEKS NOW AND I HAVE GENERATED, MY INVESTMENT BACK AS WELL AS A VERY SIZABLE...

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IVY CAPITAL Cancellation of Service

After I gave up the limits on my credit cards I was told for a investment of 4800 I could start my online business and be making money in no time. I was told I could cancel within 3 days, the next morning my car broke down and I needed the money on my cc to pay for repairs. I called them to cancel with in 24 hours they ask how much if was going to cost to get my car fixed and they could lower my investment to 3800 I told him no I had reconsidered and I did not want to sign up. He then put me thru to his boss that told me she could take my investment down to 2200, again I said no. After she got really upset that I still wouldn't agree she told me she would have to talk to her Vice Pres. No return phone call after this. I emailed them that I was not signing the agreement to charge my card. I also faxed them the agreement back with cancelled written all over it. A few days later I received a call from my coach and I again explained that I had cancelled she told me to call or email customer service I did both. Customer service told me that they would set up a call for me to talk to someone else to resolve the matter. I told her there was nothing to resolve I had cancelled but they could call me on my cellphone at 5:00 the next day. No call and I have again emailed them that I want the pending charge off of my card so I can get my car out of the shop.
I cancelled by phone, email and fax it been 10days and they still haven't taken the pending charge off my card.

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Jul 10, 2012 9:11 am EDT
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I to lost a lot of money from Ivy Capitol, and tried to do something about it in 2010, just thought I would try again
Anyone know of any civil law suites etc that I could become a part of? They are of course out of business but I am still trying to find them

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Bracebridge, CA
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Jul 10, 2012 9:08 am EDT
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Ivy Capitol is out of business anyone know of any class actions suites or anything going on, or where to find them

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i was a victim, but i just got of the phone with the resolutions department, i recorded the entire conversation, it took a full hour, and all of it consisted of him trying to persuade me to stay in, even after i voiced all of my complaints, it has him calling me stupid for reading complaints on the internet, it even has statements of him saying i can easily make 200, 000, best of all i have him recorded saying they will refund the money within 3 days, if they don't im thinking of going to the police and submitting the recording and all the other correspondence, if anyone wants to hear the recording to decide whether this company is a scam please leave a comment on this. i will email you the recording. Best of luck to everyone, my advice is to record these [censor] when they call, of course don't tell them, collect as much evidence as possible, it should also help with the credit card dispute when you start that with your credit card company.

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I've just become a victim of Ivy Capital and they charged more than 14, 000 dollars from my creidt cards. I've been asking them for refund because I cancelled the agreement before 3 days. According to agreement I can cancel it for full refund within 3 days. But they're using every tactic that we don't get refund. Everytime there's a new numbers they call from. Everytime there's a new person talking and trying to convince us to do the business with them and not to get refund. I agree to every word of all the comments and complaints other people have written about this company. But I've to say one thing, if they don't give me refund, I'll not be silent. I'll follow them every where in the world and bring them into the court for their fraud.

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Same here. This needs to STOP! I'm only 19 years-old and I invested into vianet just so I could help my parents financially. Sadly, I didn't make a dime with vianet and I've lost almost $3000. Money that could be put into my college tuition. They must be stopped. Has anyone filed a lawsuit against them?

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Hayward, US
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I conpletely agree with all the complaints! Only wish I had researched this company before I was fast-talked out of almost 4100.00 I did send a written letter within the three day period and they still keep rescheduling me with a different resolutions person, trying to change my mind. I am very upset by their shady ways and I don't want them to get away with this. They cant! What can we do to get justice? Aren't there laws against these kind of minipulators?
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Jan 18, 2010 3:42 pm EST

To anybody thinking about investing cash with IVY Capital DONT DO IT ! scam artists con men call em what you like they will tell you a pack of lies to get your cash im down £3500 pounds but trying to get it back these people want locking up if anyone has managed to get their cash back please let me know how you went about it ...

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I am also in this trap that goes by the name Ivy Capitol, Vianet, Success Team ect. I signed up in April of 09 and was mislead and lied to from the start. However I did try very hard to make a go of this program. I spent over 15-20 hours a week. They did not provide what they promised and the program did not ever work correctly for me. I sent emails, left msgs. and even my coach had to email the company to try and get the web page working. It never did function as it should and after 2 coaches and hours of work on the system it is still not working. They did some changes to my web postings and also sent me over 20 test emails for some reason. They seemed to try to help each time I called but the bottom line is I spent over 8, 000.00 and have not seen one cent in return. I sent them letters and complained and they stated they would repair. Each time it hits a deadend because of the program not functioning as it should. When tech support kept saying with so many issues you need to call and I did, and also took off of work to call and be able to correct the problem. They just told me had to go to the programers. What a waste. I really did try with them to work it out even after all the lies. I have kept very good records of all of the problems and dates and the names of each person and issue. I will be posting this complaint as I belive this is wrong. The things they do are not honest and they use alot of hard sell tactics. I am sorry to have to resort to stating negative things about a company but if it helps someone else avoid this trap it is worth it. I also will be pursuing all of the legal options I have for making this public information.
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Redmond, US
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Jan 04, 2010 11:11 pm EST

By the way, if any legitimate customers read this and have had success with this company, please give us some details about your experience...

1. how much did you pay upfront as your intial investment?
2. how much did you make in the first year?
3. what is your online business' website?
4. how much time did you have to put in to make your business work?

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Redmond, US
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Jan 04, 2010 10:57 pm EST

I've already gotten my money refunded, as I cancelled within the 3 days, but I was lucky. It was a difficult and long battle. BE WARNED PEOPLE! EVEN IF YOU CANCEL WITHIN THE 3 DAYS, THERE IS A 15% RETAINER FEE THAT THEY WILL NOT REFUND TO YOU!

Trying to cancel, even in the three days, is a battle. They will fight you on it...and tell you that you are scared. Sometimes it is wise to be fearful when walking into a lion's den without armor. They will blame any complaints posted out there ON THEIR LAZY CUSTOMERS WHO LACKED THE DISCIPLINE TO FOLLOW THROUGH (as this is the primary reason I cancelled with them - too much bad publicity). Given these facts, I feel doing business with this company is a risky endeavor.

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I was co-erced out of $ 2500 of money I did not have. I wanted to start up an online business and did not know the cost of doing so. They find out how much credit is available to you, then coincidentally, that is exactly how much the fee is. They verbally guarantee that you will make the money back within 3 months but it does not happen. They offer very...

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