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Yep i am one of those Idiots who has just lost £365.00 to this Muppet.
Got my self ropped in and was desperate to just find someone to trust, cannot beleive the amount of scamming Low Life out there and this guy's a Cracker.
Automated response at first with= Hi,

Thanks for your enquiry,

payment can be made into the following UK Bank,

David Langley
Lloyds TSB,
S.C. 30-98-67,
Acct [protected].

This is the Nice chap below though as i have found other people who cant wait to meet up with him.
TERRY J STEPHENS 25 CHATSWORTH ROAD SO50 4PE EASTLEIGH UK

He even went to the expense of setting up a consignment for me to track.

-----Original Message-----
From: thai steroid
To: [protected]@talktalk.net
Sent: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:48
Subject: Re: UK Payment Details Re: Orders

ok gary,

sorry about the delay,

will look into it and let you know,

dave

On Thu, Jul 16, 2009 at 5:56 PM, wrote:

Hi Dave,

You cannot track any International consignments through the Royal Mail and nothing is waiting at my local Post Office to collect.

Can you please look into this as it should have got here by now as the Package was Dispatched on July 6, 16 Jul now and as you can see the Package still shows as being at Bang Lamung?

Thanks

Gary

Search Result : RE381843237TH

DATETIME Scan Location Description
July 6, 2009
12:46:47 BANG LAMUNG Items Into Container
July 6, 2009
12:47:12 BANG LAMUNG Dispatch

It would be great to spread the word if you could?

Thanks

Gary

Update by SIDPITBRANDON
Dec 29, 2009 4:53 am EST

Listen Guys!

Thanks very much for replying and letting other people know that Thaisteroid.com is the biggest scammer out.

Please post on any Forum or Website you can and end this Lowlife ###'s scamming ways?

Hi Dave from THAISTEROID.COM!

Or is it -Steve - Terry - John from THAISTEROID.COM would you like to reply to any one of the complaints that have been made against your company, still waiting on mine and you have had many an opportunity to do it?

We await your Honest and Trusted response!?

Sid

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maddog1234
MCR, GB
Mar 07, 2011 10:28 am EST
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come on use the fake martinbyrne post make me laff show me how imature you are thinking you no me lol

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maddog1234
MCR, GB
Mar 07, 2011 10:35 am EST
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you expsosed your self with your scammming website http://www.thaisteroid.com/ why dint you just do a good service beats me
and iam not the first am i david ...since i delt with you last under another name and you never sent my goods so i test u out on more service in another name you ant changed 1 bit have u scammer .

http://www.thaisteroid.com/ scam site

SPREAD THE WORD THIS GUY IS BAD SCAMMER DONT BE FOOLED http://www.thaisteroid.com/ IS A JOKE

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maddog1234
MCR, GB
Mar 07, 2011 10:38 am EST
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END OF HES A SCAM http://www.thaisteroid.com/ BEWARE NEVER USE
David Langley
Lloyds TSB,
S.C. 30-98-67,
Acct [protected]

SCAM SCAM SCAM taking a little trip down Lloyds later my friend works ther see what can do about you

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maddog1234
MCR, GB
Mar 07, 2011 10:40 am EST
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David Langley
Lloyds TSB,
S.C. 30-98-67,
Acct [protected]

http://www.thaisteroid.com/

BEWARE SCAMMER read all the info about this guy on meny forums

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Freestailo
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Mar 07, 2011 10:59 am EST

David Langley ripped off half of the world...
he wont send items and he creates fake names
THAISTEROID.COM — SCAMMERS
see he is bad bad bad scammer
he takes your money...
HE IS A SCAMMER...

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maddog1234
MCR, GB
Mar 07, 2011 12:59 pm EST
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25 CHATSWORTH ROAD SO50 4PE EASTLEIGH UK

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maddog1234
MCR, GB
Mar 07, 2011 1:00 pm EST
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and wot mr thiasteroids stop posting fake threds in fake names

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maddog1234
MCR, GB
Mar 07, 2011 1:03 pm EST
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we all no it you from thia steroids posting as a martinbyrne, its in your nature we all no about you so go away to your fake steroids site http://www.thaisteroid.com/

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baz1874
Stockport, GB
Mar 07, 2011 1:28 pm EST

i used there site once .on reading the new post this morning on web . looks like the guys from thaisteroids have been busy and are still up to ther old tricks .
had me once but never again once bitten twice shy .
fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me .
so i would never trust site like that again

http://www.thaisteroid.com/
is bad bad bad

dont tell me you lost your money to this idiot maddog just report him hel soon be gone .good look guys on getting your money back

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maddog1234
MCR, GB
Mar 07, 2011 1:57 pm EST
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HES A COMPLETE [censor] HE THINKS IAM CALLED MARTIN BYRNE BOCUSE THATS THE NAME I USED TO MAKE A FAKE ORDER FROM HIS SITE SO HE COMES HERE WITH THAT NAME TO TRY AND BAD ME COS I REOPRTED HIM HERE .. HE THAT THICK HE DONT REALISE THAT MARTIN BYRNE AT BELLYSHELLY EMAIL IS WOMEN RELATES TO A FEMALE ..HAHA

HE ONLY WISHES HE NEW MY REAL NAME AND WERE IAM FROM ..
I TOLD YOU BEFORE MR THIA STEROIDS WE HAVE MET IN THE PAST IAM SURE U REMBER ME
WAKE UP MUPPET IAM WAY AHEAD OF YOU AND ANT GONNA WASTE ANY MORE TIME PLAYING CHILDISH GAMES WITH YOU

YOU ARE ONE DUMB [censor]

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baz1874
Stockport, GB
Mar 07, 2011 2:51 pm EST

eh dont waste your time on this looser that low life from thaisteroids ant worth it, it woont belong before other complaints are here about him and hes ways .and no doubt he will create more bogus names to big up him self like he does on other forums hes just a A class muppet my friend want a word with him to .hes online later ill let him no the updates on guy,

so dont worry about it maddog hes done this to alot of us before . he.s a cowerd and long history of his scams and making fake post ill send u some links of other forums were he does this and trys to big him self up, you can build a better picture of this guy and meet other like you who hes ripped off or were hes made fake post ..hes a numpty and beleve me hes nothing in the bodybuilding world if anythin there all looking for him .hes on the run and has been for a while

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maddog1234
MCR, GB
Mar 07, 2011 3:15 pm EST
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THANKS bro for support . ye he dont bother me he, s got me all rong anyway i was just buzzing of him being a [censor] posting fake threds in fake names . its like some 6 yr old trying to guess my name lol who just ant got a clue about me ..carnt beleve this is the idiot from thaisteroids ha ha trying to give greif back to those that complain about the bad service of his fake scam site .. http://www.thaisteroid.com/

anyway got better things to do bro . nice to met ye baz

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wontonfuton
manc, GB
Mar 07, 2011 8:41 pm EST

ye this guy is total scammer he rips people of then goes on forums making fake posts about people that complain givving out there personal info (fake or otherwise) that he gathered when they buy from him, propper low life [censored]. had me of as well. your a lier and a cheat! thaisteroids.com

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karma ISABITCH
DONCASTER, GB
Mar 08, 2011 5:09 am EST

Terry J Stephens
Margaret D Stephens,
Sarah A Stephens,
Andrew P Stephens,
Christopher G Stephens

25 CHATSWORTH ROAD SO50 4PE EASTLEIGH UK

have a nice day sir

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karma ISABITCH
DONCASTER, GB
Mar 08, 2011 6:36 am EST

http://www.thaisteroid.com/
This con website will steal your money only gets on Google because they pay for an add like all the other con sites! They can not get to a top rank as they are not able to get the ratings needed, save your money and look elsewhere .google historys shows he will as proved above use your details you orderd from him from to try and slander you or he creates fake posts in your name s or fake name s to to say other web sites are scammers and thaisteroids is good and legit all the post that say, hey i use thai steroids n got my order no problem is him using difrent name .he may even create fake tracking details from thialand and make u beleve when your parcel does not arive that custems may have it . or you will just get no reply.if that was true iam sure custems would contact you to say you have parcel that must be destroyed but they dont, thats becouse he never sends it . there are 100 s of people hes ripped off . goes by the names
david langly .Terry J Stephens http://www.freakzonline.com/archive/index.php/t-43832.html take his name any were in the online steroids forums, he a hated man . they all want a peaice of this low life

i feel for all you guys that get scammed by this dead leg, save your money and look els were there are some good sites and thaisteroids is not one of them .

come on then terry, you want to ansewr back to my messages . you want to try and slander me . weres my 100 bottles of sus .bye the way hows clifford

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maddog1234
MCR, GB
Mar 08, 2011 8:48 am EST
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THANK YOU, AND ALL THE GUYS HERE FOR YOUR SUPORT

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maddog1234
MCR, GB
Mar 08, 2011 12:39 pm EST
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i bet non of us could of guessed that is you terry durrrrrr" and i dont think the complaints board admin s are very happy with the abuse coming from your ip . good by

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TeamEverett
Dorking, GB
Apr 13, 2011 5:08 pm EDT
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OK enough said about this Scammer, doesn't anyone here think that if we ALL want STEROIDS we should have our OWN forum where we can talk to each other about REAL suppliers? Heres the link to the site i made i'm still working on it but it'll do for now, http://teameverettbodybuilding.webs.com/ make a profile and have a look at the forums, start your own and invite people.

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David99999
Osston, US
Apr 25, 2011 10:25 am EDT

Sorry you guy's didnt have the same luck as me, i ordered and got my gear OK, but as you say I only ordered once, maybe next time wont be so lucky, it seems that the best thing to do with all the steroids sites is only order one time, and the next time order from a different site.

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gym jockey
Leicester, GB
Jun 06, 2011 5:22 pm EDT

TOTALLY AGREE THEY HAVE NOW SET UP BUYUKSTEROIDS.COM RIPPED ME OFF AND WHEN I SENT E-MAILS TRIED TO THREATING ME, LOVE TO SNATCH THE LIFE OF HIM...

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gym jockey
Leicester, GB
Jun 06, 2011 5:26 pm EDT

Hi has anyone been ripped off by buyuksteroids.com I have just been had to 200.00 order never arrived after sending loads of e-mail they then answered threating me, , I would of love to snatch the life out of him thought he was well hard hiding behind is e-mails, telling me he had my address and that i was a grass because i threating to tell everyone about this low life, on checking they have the same page and web company as thaisteroid.com so beware

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scammedbuster
London, GB
Jun 08, 2011 4:35 am EDT

I've met Dave Langley, he lives in Pattaya, Thailand. He's a 6'7" bean pole that used to work the London Markets as a lookout for another scammer that sold magic puppets (look that up on youtube) they now run various websites and forums from Pattaya. You could try this address/phone number for him. That's him in the picture.
DAVID LANGLEY
23 ROCK ROAD
TOQUAY, Devon TQ2 5SP
+44.[protected]

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scammedbuster
London, GB
Sep 04, 2011 8:35 pm EDT

Dave Langley owns a forum called www.punter69.com, if you click the link it redirects you to another almost identical looking site called www.thaichatter.com . Perhaps it would be worth everyone that's been ripped off joining and asking the other forum members if they know what a ### owns that site. I'm sure it must be a money spinner or they wouldn't do it, might take some money out of his pocket.

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markusul
vancouver, CA
Sep 20, 2011 2:01 am EDT
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Is there any picture of this ### of Mihael Karner? I see he's been "selling" fake stuff since years!

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diama
US
Sep 30, 2011 12:45 pm EDT

Florafromeurope.com did not deliver. I paid in may 2011. In october I still don't have anything. 5 months!

florafromeurope.net and florafromeurope.com are scammers.

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diama
US
Sep 30, 2011 12:54 pm EDT

I got scammed too. I lost 652 quid to florafromeurope.com florafromeurope.net. I placed an order in may 2011. 5 months later in october and nothing arrived.

Karnner, Mihael info@pharmaeurope.com PO BOX 983 Klagenfurt, 9010 AT [protected] Technical Contact: Karnner, Mihael info@pharmaeurope.com PO BOX 983 Klagenfurt, 9010 AT [protected] Registration Service Provider: Domenca d.o.o., support@domenca.com +[protected] +[protected] (fax) http://www.domenca.com This company may be contacted for domain login/passwords, DNS/Nameserver changes, and general domain support questions. Registrar of Record: TUCOWS, INC. Record last updated on 01-Sep-2004. Record expires on 01-Sep-2014. Record created on 01-Sep-2001. Domain servers in listed order: WOODY.SOFTNET.SI BUZZ.SOFTNET.SI Domain status: ACTIVE

This guy is THE biggest scammer on the net. He has literally tons of sites registered and is notorious for sending out fakes especially to the US. The first small order is good but the next bigger one is crap.
Never send money to Klagenfurt, Austria.

Here's a list of his sites, he's even got a forum at www.pharmaciesforme.com but I scared everyone off )
http://www.eurobolic.com
http://www.nroxshop.com
http://www.florafromeurope.com
http://www.pharmabolic.com
http://www.pharmaeurope.com/
http://www.anabolicshop.net/shop.htm
http://www.eurobolica.com/prices.htm
http://www.medica-center.com/shop/catalog/default.php
http://www.pharmanabolics.com/anabo...log/default.php
http://www.pharmanabolics.com/
http://www.steroidscorner.com/shop/
http://www.eurosteroids.com/
http://steroan.com/cart/shopping_cart.php
http://www.drdeca.com/
http://www.capital-pharmacy.com/
http://www.united-pharmacy.com/
http://www.pharmaeurope.com/ordering_info.asp
http://www.pharmabolic.com/
http://www.ana************/
http://www.parabolan.org/product.asp?id=18
http://www.roid4sale.com/
http://www.ammersham.com/anadrol.htm
http://www.anadrol.net/
http://www.dianabol.net
http://www.sustanon250.org/Decadurabolin.htm
http://www.deca-sustanon.com/
http://www.anabolicsteroids.org/sustanon.htm
http://www.deca-sustanon.com//winstroltablets.htm
http://www.steroidtraining.com/
www.anabolic-steroids.net
www.anabolic-pharma.com
www.supreme-pharmacy.com

Karnner Mihael florafromeurope.com is a SCAMMIN ###!

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langleyz
SE
Oct 14, 2011 4:11 pm EDT

www.buysteroidsuk.com
www.steroidscenter.com
www.thaisteroid.com

very big fraud! They are the sammer! Avoid at all cost!

SCAM!

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justiceserve
Colchester, GB
Jan 07, 2012 7:31 pm EST
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HE WAS BEHIND ALL THAT BUT JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED. READ UP ALL YU NEED TO DO IS TRANSLATE ON GOOGLE-CHROME
http://slo-kronika.si/novice/tozilci-zda-utegnejo-zakonca-karner-obtoziti-ze-za-kaj-drugega-kot-samo-za-preprodajo-anabolicnih-steroidov/

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scammedbuster
London, GB
Feb 22, 2012 10:36 pm EST

That's not Langley in your link, he's still at large.

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mark grayson
Los Angeles, US
Mar 09, 2012 6:23 am EST
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I ordered 2 months ago from steroidsdirect.net and got scammed. I only lost £30 but it's still money I worked hard for.
I have been doing some online searching and this bloke has a bunch of scam sites.

steroidsdirect.net
thaisteroid.com
steroidthailand.com
steroidsdirectuk.com
steroidsdirectonline.com
steroidsdirect2u.com
buysteroidsaustralia.com
steroidsuk.org

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roid freak auss
TH
Jun 30, 2012 9:09 pm EDT

i think theres some ### mixed in here theres some good sites in that list like www.buysteroidsaustralia.com, now the guys in my gym in Auss use these guys from buysteroidsaustralia.com and i recommeded them to start with as they have never let me down yet, yes sometimes theres a delay now and again but the gear always gets here like they say, i and the guys from the gym have never had a parcel opened yet by customs from buysteroidsaustralia.com, try them and see no bull from them just order a little bit and u will see

Ryan, Perth WA

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kevtopper22
TV
Nov 04, 2012 5:16 pm EST
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Dianabol was more or less the second Anabolic Steroid ever produced. The first, as we all know was Testosterone, which was produced in the early 1900s and experimented with by Nazis in WW2, in an attempt to produce a better soldier.
Russian Dianabol and Team Sports History

Russian athletes in the 1953 World Championships as well as the Olympic games then used testosterone with great success. After that, John Zeigler, who was a doctor working with the US Weightlifting Team, began a cooperative project with Ciba to develop an equalizer for US athletes. Flash forward to 1956 and enter Dianabol ; the original trade name for Cibas Methandrostenolone... but called "Dbol" by athletes.

The original package insert said that 10mgs/day was enough to provide full androgen replacement for a man and Dr. Zeigler recommended that athletes take 5-10mgs/day. Incidentally, this is also the dose that Bodybuilders were reputed to take from then until roughly the 1970s. Yeah, this was allegedly Arnolds dose, Zanes dose, etc... simply stacked with some testosterone. (For any trivia buffs out there, Dan Duchaines mail order steroid business operated under the name "The John Zeigler Fan Club").
Dianabol Steroid Use

Enough with the history lesson, lets get into what this Dianabol is, and what it does. Well, first off, its usually found in pill form, though it can be found as an injectable also (Under the Trade name: Reforvit-B, which is 25mgs of methandrostenolone mixed with B-vitamins). Dianabol is a 17aa steroid, which means it has been altered at the 17th Carbon position, to survive its first pass through your liver, and make it into your blood stream. Dianabol will raise your blood pressure (4) and is also hepatoxic (Liver-Toxic), so be careful with it. Although I have known people to take up to 100mgs/day of this stuff and not suffer any ill-effects, and one study looked at that exact dose, and the people involved didnt suffer any intolerable side effects ( 7). Lets examine this particular study a bit further, though:

d-anabol, Dianabol, SteroidsIn this study, done in the early 80s, a very high dose of Dianabol (100mgs/day for 6 weeks) decreased plasma testosterone to about 40% of its normal value, plasma GH went up about a third, LH dropped to about 80% of its original value, and FSH went down about a third also (these are all approximate numbers, for the sake of brevity, but you get the idea). Body fat did not go up significantly and Fat Free Mass went up anywhere between 2-7kgs (3.3kgs average gain). The researchers concluded that Dbol increases Fat Free Mass as well as increasing strength and performance. I can only agree, having found this to be the case for me when I did my first cycle (which was 6 weeks of dbol alone at 25mgs/day), I gained roughly 25lbs and kept nearly of it. Since then, Dianabol has always had a special place in my heart.
Dianabol Side Effects

As with many other 17aa steroids, Dianabol is also a very weak binder to the Androgen Receptor, so most of its effects are thought to be non-receptor mediated, and are attributable to other mechanisms (i.e. protein synthesis as indicated by the production of muscle tissue with very high levels of nitrogen, etc... which was indicated in the 100mg/day study). This also means Dianabol only has a modest aromatase activity (2).

How strong is Dbol? Well...on a mg for mg basis, most people agree that its stronger than A50...but the reason most people don't get the same gains off of Dianabol is that almost nobody takes equivalent doses (I mean...Ive heard of people taking 150mgs of A50, but not Dbol, even though the dbol would probably provide more solid gains and be less toxic, I suspect).

So how do we incorporate this stuff into our AAS regimen? Clearly, the inclusion of Dianabol at any point in a cycle would contribute to gains, however, Id speculate that Dbol is most regularly used for 2 reasons:

At the start of a cycle to "Kick Start" gains
As a "Bridge" between cycles, to maintain gains

Lets examine these two uses.
Dianabol Cycle

In order to kick start a Dianabol cycle, usually what you do is incorporate a fast acting oral like Dianabol (or anadrol) and combine it with long acting injectables (such as Deca or Eq with some Testosterone). The reasoning here is that the oral (Dbol in this case) will give almost immediate results, while the injectable takes time to produce results. The end result is that you start seeing results within the first week of your cycle and continue up until the end with the injectables. This entails taking anywhere from 25-50mgs of dbol (although as little as 20mgs or as much as 100mgs have been reported) for 3-6 weeks at the start of a cycle (average time for a "Kick Start" is 4 weeks, though), and then ceasing their use as the injectables start to produce results.

In order to successfully bridge between cycles (and this means using a low dose of AAS, in this case dbol), you need to recover your natural hormonal levels to pre-cycle levels or to within acceptable parameters, and then you start your next cycle. The idea here is that you wont lose any gains, but rather a low dose of an AAS will help you maintain them. Typically, you'd use around 10mgs/day of dbol and combine it with an aggressive Post-Cycle Therapy (PCT) course of Nolvadex (and/or Clomid) and HCG. This would give you full androgen replacement from the Dbol and a shot at recovering your natural hormonal levels via the other stuff you are taking. Remember, the 100mg/day dose of dbol in the study we looked at earlier did not suppress Test, LH, or FSH to a degree that would make recovery impossible and certainly not with 1/10th that dose in conjunction with an aggressive PCT.

All in all, this is a very good drug, and a potent tool for quick gains or retaining gains...when used properly and safely.

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driver 62
Patchogue, US
Dec 19, 2012 1:56 pm EST

good job mad dog he also has a site called steriod thailand

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LP07
Great Yarmouth, GB
May 03, 2013 7:55 am EDT

My mate & myself got scammed by this low life also we lost 140GBP, he is using another alias Mike Steadz & the email address we got it from is thaisteroidco@gmail.com
If anybody finds out who or where this ### is let me know as I frequently travel around Asia & Uk for work & would not mind spaying him a visit.

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KrabiBob
TH
May 08, 2013 8:38 pm EDT
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I receive so many incoming mails with regards to steroids suppliers on a
daily basis and I try to answer them as carefully and as accurately as
possible, for obvious reasons. The problem lies with the areas that
certain people live in, nationally and especially internationally so
great care has to be taken when guiding the individuals as you can
appreciate.

However, there are more and more people being scammed right, left and
centre with no exceptions as there are no set rules, and these are now in
the main originating from the former Eastern bloc countries that we have
now as friends and allies in some cases.

Unfortunately there are those that do not see it as chance to make
friends and offer a decent service, but one to scam you for your money
and sell bath tub produced, clinically inferior gear which is potentially
dangerous in oh so many ways. There is not much in the way that we can do
to stop this within our own abilities, but there are ways to protect
ourselves by:

Sharing information of rogue companies
Holding our own fort
Looking after our own
and
Sharing information about GOOD companies

Okay, I appreciate that there are not many good companies around, most of
them disappeared along with the good gear years ago, but there are still
a few I can assure you of that.

Counterfeit gear will always be a problem, in fact I know that it reached
a peak 4 or 5 years ago that I found absolutely unbelievable to be honest,
then it seemed to drop away for a reason that we are currently
experiencing now. How? Well the counterfeiters in some way or another
melted away once the good generics started to hit the streets. Let me
explain what a generic actually is.

The word 'generic' does not mean that the product is fake, it actually
means that it can be any product, food, cosmetic or DRUG that is sold in
a package without a brand which is totally different to the word
‘counterfeit’ which means basically that it is meant to be passed off
fraudulently as a copy. I appreciate that we could have both in some ways
but the reason for my explaining this as I am is that there is so much
difference in the two as I know of today.

The counterfeit gear these days is actually getting less and less simply
because of the costs involved to make the stuff. Whereas the generics
that have hit the streets these last 2-3 year years, have in so many
cases proven to be in way better than the original. It is not so much as
a surprise at all because I have even had chats with certain
representatives of these actual companies and their outlook was and is
good for us.

After so many tests and trials we can actually say that is the case. I
have this last week alone seen good old Dynabolan in a 150mg format
return far better than the last time we saw it and that must have been 12
years or more! It never went away, per se’, it just needed a couple of
reputable companies to realise that there is an obvious market for
certain gears that were sorely missed. By doing this, these reputable
pharmaceutical companies have inadvertently helped to cut the
counterfeiters out of the market. Good news for us - bad news for them.

Heptylate was a steroid that I used to use on a regular basis simply
because it was one of the best gears that I had ever used way back, and
then all of a sudden it disappeared from sight, almost overnight. We had
lost a product which gave us very little water retention, solid weight
gains and excellent strength increases; but then it was gone!

The same thing happened to Masteron 7-8 years ago. This product was SO
sought after especially for pre-competition preparation that it was
unreal as it helped give hardness to the physique that was truly
incredible. I turned around one day and it was gone too - WTF was
happening to the world. Of course we know now why these and other
products left the market, it was the laws of certain countries that
changes, demand dropped because of the seriousness of the counterfeits
that were flooding the market and so certain sections of genuine
pharmaceutical companies decided that it was best to close the doors on
certain products until such chance they could come back - and thank
goodness they did.

We have recently tested a 20ml version of Heptylate, a 150mg Dynabolan
multi and a 100mg Masteron that ALL prove to be as good as the versions
we knew all those years ago. All were up to the limit of the mg per ml,
bang on in fact. They were all clean cut products that we were chuffed to
see back. For competitors it means that extra boost that was indeed
sorely missed. For those looking to harden and condition there physiques
in general, they will be glad to see it back too. As for the Heptylate
and Dynabolan, well it will please many of the seekers of strength and
mass as it did way back then.

There are still a lot of [censored]e products on the streets and it is up to us
to try and sort the wheat from the chaff. There is a way. If you have
knowledge of any company that has actually scammed you for cash, if you
have lost to them in anyway let me know and I will do my best to let as
many know as to their antics as I possibly can. Of course I know where
all the good gear is and I would be a fool to say that I didn't, but it
is also good to know where all the ### gear is too so I can steer people
clear of such nob heads. Forewarned is forearmed I say.

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KrabiBob
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May 08, 2013 8:41 pm EDT
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Take a look at this very interesting link below.

Reverse Steroids Scammers UK — Reverse Steroids Scammers UK

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KrabiBob
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May 08, 2013 8:48 pm EDT
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What?

People who take money and falsely promise the supply of goods are known as "scammers". Other steroid scammer types send fake gear or clones.
Steroid scammers work largely in anabolic discussion groups on the Internet.
They pick off the novice who places an advert for the supply of anabolic steroids.
Here is an example of some of the scams you must be aware of when you are seeking out a source.

The Source Checker Scammer

Any one who sets themselves up as a source checker is a scammer.

There is one of these con men working in two well know discussion groups at this very moment. He uses the email address of the discussion group to make it look like he is authorized.

To further demonstrate his resourcefulness he now has set himself up as a "UK steroid source checker to the USA" ! "What a great guy", we hear you say! Using his own time to help the "bro's" of bodybuilding. (yes and he will likely call you "bro" ) When you ask this particular "source checker" about a source he sends you to his 2nd mail address where there is a "really good bro" ready to help you.

Yes it is the same guy!

This particular scammer is now a moderator on a USA steroid discussion group (yes that one) and he has infiltrated a well known UK group also (yes that one).

Lesson:
NEVER deal with or trust anyone who calls themselves a "source checker". It is the biggest con game in the steroid Internet world.

The Scammer List Con

We seldom publish the ID of scammers unless we are 100% sure that they are culpable . Lists are notoriously bent since they are often manipulated by unscrupulous sources to further their ends.

It is notable that many sites have emerged selling steroids and also hosting scammer lists. The scammer list has now become the tool of the crooked source and the scammers themselves to discredit their competition.

On the scammer lists we find genuine scammers and genuine good and reliable sources. The names of good operators are submitted to these lists by bitter rivals. Anyone can submit a name to these lists and there are no rules or requirements of proof.

Lesson:
Scammer lists are not serious documents.
NEVER use scammer lists as a reference point to check out your supplier.
They will be full of the best sources in the business submitted by small time scammers, con artistes or unscrupulous rivals.

Steroid bibles

Certain e-zine merchants have popped up on the web claiming to be experts ( gurus ) in steroids.
They claim to be associated with all kinds of wonderful people in the hard core bodybuilding world.
They invariably have a few things to sell (usually a steroid bible).
A recent one we researched claims that site injecting does not work.
The reason for this, according to him, is that if it did, the glutes would be massive, because that is where steroids are most often injected.

That this guy is known as a bufoon is no secret but, joking apart, steroids is a serious subject when it comes to giving direct advise to people using chemicals.
This is a case of someone with some pratical knowledge paying someone to publish a manual and then flogging it on the web. (No you won't find it in Waterstones).
Sticking a needle in yourself and pumping iron however, does not qualify you as a steroid "guru".
So here is some advice on site injecting:
The receptors in the upper arms are more favourable to inflation than the glutes.

Lesson:
Don't get sucked in with e-zine merchants claiming to be connected and all knowing.
They are mostly amateur bodybuilders and hangers on who want to sell a subscription to you by preaching some unique and unfounded point of view. When you sign up to these merchants you will be spammed with e mails full of worthless, misleading and dangerous comments.

Scammer "buyers"

Fortunately this is rare but this creature does occasionally rear his ugly head.
Often known as reverse scammers.
It works this way. The scammer "buyer" threatens to put the source on a scammer list unless the source sends the products he ordered.
(Note our reverence of this list above!)
There is a little oversight here however. The scammer "buyer" has never ordered or paid for the products!
It is an extortion.
There are a number of variations here but they are always perpetrated by a youth with a low IQ and some dysfunctional personality problem.

Lesson:
If you are a source and you get pestered by this kind of brat then don't bother returning his mail. Just put it on block instantly and get on with answering the genuine clients. Hopefully the chump will give up the computer and go back to watching cartoons on his portable TV.

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Phuket Gary
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May 08, 2013 11:09 pm EDT
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http://www.linkedin.com/pub/louis-perdicou/33/473/610

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Phuket Gary
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May 08, 2013 11:19 pm EDT
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https://www.facebook.com/louis.perdicou

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mancman
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Jun 11, 2013 5:07 am EDT
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i too have had dealings with this guy he scammed me of about a oner but ive found him thanks to you phuket gary :)

this is definitely him i have shown him pictures of himself and you could instantly tell he was running scared

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