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The Purse Forum is basically a means girls club, that targets their competition and steers people away from sites and sellers who are not where they sell. One member refuses to authenicate bags from Poshmark and has trashed the site on the forum. She is a seller of the same bags on Ebay she is authenticating and having removed. I have read numerous posting by "authenicators" trashing a seller to the point the seller has lost business. They keep a "Shame" list on every seller that may have made a mistake and rehash it even if the so-called seller made a mistake 8 years ago. They posted a seller's real name and other user names iwth the sole purpose of getting their readers to not buy this seller's products. When others stood up for this seller who has over 5.000 postive reviews from customers, they went after the posters nd refuse to authenticate bags from this person and any other person who disagrees with them. The authenicators need to disclose their selling names and sites and not authenicate items they sell. This is a conflict of interest. They are harming people's reputation and livlihoods out of spite, and to bolster their own sales. There have been numerous complaints on these practices on this board and some are threatening legal action. Something has to be done.
It is a big scam to get buyer to buy fakes
thepurseforum.com promotes authenticity website businesses on their forum website to con users into 1. not buying genuine real or authentic items sold on ebay and 2. to get buyers and sellers to use the services of their friends who run the authenticity sites. this is a big scam. then what they do is sell their own fakes on ebay and get away with it by authenticating them. any authenticating business that does not advertise a telephone number is a scam too in my book.
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Scam artists
I have ordered a Prada handbag from PurseForum website and when I placed my order these guys assured me everything they sell was authentic. When I finally received my order I was shocked to find out it was fake! I am a big fan of Prada and it was obvious to me that the bag had nothing to do with Prada!
Contacted PurseForum customer service and they were very rude and ignorant, they tried to assure me the bag was real and literally called me a liar!
No PurseForum! You are the only liars here!
Do not trust PurseForum, they are selling fake replicas of a well known brands! They will not refund you! Avoid at all costs!
LOL. I posted an LV lock to authenticate on the LV forum, and apparently lovlouisvuiton was too LAZY to authenticate it for me. She insists on telling me to authenticate using a PAID third-party seller. HOW LAZY IS THAT? I'm about to waste money just to see if my lock is real or not. It only takes her 1 minute to authenticate, but I guess she is too lazy. I guess she would rather authenticate the other clearly fake bags that are posted on that topic. Typical.
How is it you feel so entitled to have someone do something for you for free, as if they don't have anything else to do other than take care of your needs? They are right! You should go to a paid authentication service! They probably checked your other posts and noticed you are USING the site as your own personal free authentication service! You are probably on welfare or disability and expect everything for free. Most likely a democrat! Why do you people think the world owes you a living? Go PAY for an authentication service like most respectable sellers are doing! You are NOT entitled to anything from them, and it's hat very attitude why they refuse to help you! As if their knowledge isn't worth anything? Try telling a lawyer or accountant they should do consulting for you for free and see how that goes! You are asking for a consulting service. Go PAY for one!
I am afraid that your claim is unwarranted, as our PurseForum is *not* a store and doesn't sell ANY product. PurseForum is a chat community and not an e-commerce site. We are sorry if you were sold a fake bag by a store imitating PurseForum, but I assure you that it was not our site.
Sorry Vlad, but you have a lot of members using your site to sell fakes! Some may be used authentic bags, but many are high quality mirror knockoff fakes, and while you the owners, are not selling fakes there, many of your members most certainly are.! Perhaps try monitoring your Private Messages section better? I'm sure you'll find the illicit sales going on, there!
We respect our members' privacy and do not monitor the private messages section of the forums. Aside from this, direct buying/selling via private messages is prohibited as per our community rules.
I have the utmost regard for you and Megan. You’re wonderful people providing an incredible platform, but you really do have some problem people there that think they run that place. I appreciate you respecting people’s privacy, but that’s exactly where you’ll find the problems. I hope you will at least consider it. Have a great day!
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Complete scam website! Fake bags!
Whatever you do, do not order anything from PurseForum! Ordered a Prada bag and paid really big money for it. They claimed that all their bags are authentic and said that they guarantee that. Well, instead of real Prada bag I got absolutely rubbish made in Chine replica! I was so angry! When I received the bag it looked strange and material was not the same as it was described, so I took my new bag to the Prada boutique and asked them to check it. The store owner said that is was just a copy and not the best one. When I returned home I immediately sent PurseForum an angry message and demanded a refund and still no response! Fakes!
I don't agree with you. Why is she obligated to give you a FREE authentication?. They only do evaluations for long time participating members of the forum, not just people who come there for freebies! It is YOUR responsibility to pay for your own authentications. Waste of money you say? Their expertise is a trade, just like any other trade. Do you think a plumber would come to your house and fix your leak for free? WHY would you espect them to give their expertise away for free? These people deserve to be paid for their expertise, and your unappreciative 'entitled' attitudes is disgusting! It's not worth a small fee to prevent you from getting in trouble for listing a fake? Do you know you can lose your eBay or any other selling account for listing fakes? You don't think it is worth the small fee to get an authentication from an expert. You really have a lot to learn!
LOL. I posted an LV lock to authenticate on the LV forum, and apparently lovlouisvuiton was too LAZY to authenticate it for me. She insists on telling me to authenticate using a PAID third-party seller. HOW LAZY IS THAT? I'm about to waste money just to see if my lock is real or not. It only takes her 1 minute to authenticate, but I guess she is too lazy. I guess she would rather authenticate the other clearly fake bags that are posted on that topic. Typical.
Hyacinth and BeenBurned
These two "ladies" are as abnoxios as they come. Won't use purse forum as long as they are members. BeenBurned (back*in*the*saddle*again) on eBay was kicked off of ebay.
All The Purse Forum Authenticators are Sleezy Competitors!
Re: BeenBurned - Takes a lot of nerve, more than I would ever risk, to be sued and still openly criticize companies and sellers on social media. Obviously one hasn't learned their lesson.
Would not surprised me to hear of a lawsuit or internet complaint filed involving Fabuleux and Redenkeew where they have crossed the line and gone TOO FAR. Internet bullying is serious but it's evident they don't think so.
Beenburn's partner in crime is Hyacinth, who is also, SALESAREA. She made up some end all be all #coachguide, that she insists is the only one in the world that has correct information. SHE decided that certain Coach serial numbers are invalid, even though thousands of Coach bags with those numbers are available. We even called Coach to verify some of the 'fake numbers' on her list, and they had them in their database as valid! So every time one of her brainwashed minions sees a bag with a number on her list, they report it!
Not only that, Hyacynth has been and still is on the TPF, yet she hasn't updated that joke of a guide since 1999? Over 20 years ago? Oh yes, what a big help that is! lol! Not to mention we've seen both #Hyacynth and #beenburned get countless inquiries for authenticity, WRONG! They don't know their [censored] from a hole in the ground and two of them are a joke. You have to feel sorry for them though, because it's all the power they'll ever have, is cyberbullying people over handbags. Pretty pitiful. I'd love to meet either one of them in person one time. You could probably blow on either one of them and they'd fall down and break a hip! lol!
I so Agree!
Btw for those of you are wondering, BeenBurned is still on eBay using the same ID as on Bonanza
@Baglover2 - yes I know neither of those users are females. And yes - how pathetic that these (born as) men spend so much time on a social media site dedicated to those topics. Totally understandable if they are professionals "in the fashion/beauty business" but based on their posts, that doesn't seem to be the case.
Regarding BEENBURNED and others posting identities (names, addresses) of others on a social media site: Personal Identifiable Information is serious. so much so that in Europe even more stringent laws have been passed regarding collecting, sharing PII, even across borders. tpf members have posted names, addresses, etc. of ebay members on the forum. If someone files a complaint with internet crimes (division of FBI), those members and the forum could be in serious trouble.
The forum has turned into a place where "cyber bullies" insult, attack and demean members. Moderators don't try to stop it. BeenBurned is under the (self imposed) false belief they are the "KNOWITALL of EBAY" . FABULEUEX and REDENKEEW, the biggest bullies, continue to reign . members on the forum will say I Love you FAB or I Love you Red" (scary to know some of these women are Mothers). No wonder the news is filled with acts of darkness darkness and evil . Evil loves evil I guess.
Everybody on that forum need to read the definition of cyber bullying (Cyberbullying includes sending, posting, or sharing negative, harmful, false, or mean content about someone else. It can include sharing personal or private information about someone else causing embarrassment or humiliation). It should be a sticky .
Fabuleuex isn't a she, by the way, which is even more insanity! lol! What kind of a man joins a forum about handbags, purses, shoes and cosmetics? I could never picture my Dad, brothers or husband sitting on a forum, picking on girls all day! lol!
He's a big LV fanatic and according to him, there's nothing better. GAG! If I got an LV as a gift, I'd give it away or sell it! They are the ugliest bags I've ever seen, and the quality just isn't there for the money. I've had way cheaper designer brands that had much better quality, he can have them! I'd certainly rather have genuine leather than coated canvas, are you kidding me? Their older bags have horrible sticky linings, that I would never put up with just to have LV initials on my arm. JUNK! You're right, that's exactly what they are, cyber bullies.
I also have a pet and there was a big problem with dog fur. Then we decided to buy a new vacuum cleaner. Considering from what I’ve read in the reviews it shouldn’t be very noisy and at the same time it's easy to remove and change the bag. Initially, we wanted to buy Dyson but there was too expansive. In fact, there are many more vacuum cleaners. You can compare them here https://homus.org/best-bagged-vacuum/ . We bought Dirt Devil Vacuum Cleaner. Maybe you’ll go for some other. There is so many models with good charecteristics.
These witches from the TPF are deliberately trying to destroy my eBay selling account by purchasing from me for the sole purpose of leaving negative feedback, or not paying for won auctions, just to waste my time. I know because the sales are always to low feedback users that haven't purchased anything in over a year, using basically stagnant accounts that don't matter to them. They are also bidding on my items, winning auctions and not paying.
I have had four unpaid item cases in the past two weeks, all from the same type of eBay users that have under 10 feedbacks that haven't purchased anything in over a year. Coincidence? I think not. I even took a break this year because they were doing the same thing about 6 months ago. I had 15 return claims for every single item I sold. Fortunately I won every case, because eBay found their claims to be invalid .
Now I have recently returned to selling again, and the same thing is happening all over, with unpaid won auctions, or negative feedback. Why would anyone just leave a negative without even contacting the seller or filing a return claim? I'll tell you why, #1. because they got a great deal and they know it, and #2. they just want to leave a neg to damage my account.
Well let tell you what witches, eBay has been alerted to your actions. I know your names and who are and have given them to eBay, and you are being watched. All of you have been reported, and remember what happened last time you screwed with me and how it ended up?
By all means, keep it up. Rest assured, you are digging your own graves. It's just a matter of time. Just know that I am on to you and am looking forward to the same results, or even worse. The only accounts you are going to ruin, are your own! Have a nice day!
Nancy's life is all about discrediting as much of her competition as possible. Some folks can't succeed on their own good merit, and the only way they feel better than others, is to find things wrong with them even if they have to make up total BS. Most TPF members are sick of her and she has often been reprimanded by many of them to quit harassing people. Everyone is sick of it, and barely even pays attention to anything she says anymore. She has a few loyal followers and some newbies that don't know better yet, but it never takes long for them to get sick of her constant bashing of other sellers and authentication services. It is s obvious she works for service she is constantly defending., which has hundreds of pages on nothing but complaints on the TPF. Taking money and not providing the service? Where I come from, that is called 'stealing'!
Her favorite line is "I would never purchase from that seller, because..." lol! She's like a broken record. I did a search for those words on the TPF and pages and pages of her name came up! lol! She must hate every single seller on eBay. According to her, they all worthless. Who the hell is she? Her ID is BEENBURNED for heavens sakes. That indicates she has been burned, by purchasing fakes, yet she claims to be the all knowing, only possible Coach evaluator that is worthwhile? Then how did she get BURNED? LMAO! The irony here, is ridiculous.
Some of her accusations and they way she puts 2 + 2 together, are so far off track, she only makes a fool of herself. . She has been proven wrong, countless times. Her condescending attitude of being so self righteous, is beyond reproach. Most people are just ignoring her. Others, that do have money, are seriously making plans to shut her up, once and for all.
Please tell me Nancy Burke is single. If not then I would feel very sorry for her husband, being married to a worthless, entitled, angry housewife like that who does nothing important with her life than sitting on front of the computer all day. Doesn't she have a life? You know? Popping babies, kissing babies, making sandwiches, staying in the kitchen... cleaning the house? Anyone?
https://www.bonanza.com/users/5995/profile
Does that answer your question? Same name on eBay, that is why she is so busy trashing everyone who sells something similar
Oh please, sue for what? People who have money aren't spending their day trolling the internet harassing businesses and gossiping on purse forums. You're talking about angry, desperate, isolated, losers, sitting in their bedrooms in their underwear 24/7, obsessed with handbags they can't afford. They're digging their own graves, pitiful lot with no creds left.
Their handbags were fakes
Don’t buy from the company www.purseforum.com. I bought Channel handbag from them, but the seller sent me fake handbag and tried to accuse me that I haven’t understood him correctly. It was so unpleasant that I heard some blah-blah from the guy, who just lied to me and sold me fake handbag. I won’t recommend this website to other people. Avoid at all costs.
Shame on you! Your idea that the authenticators there. somehow owe you something? Is a disgrace! It takes much more than one minute to authenticate something, and you don't think their knowledge is worth anything?//, and refuse to pay a professional authenticator? It takes years of research and studying to become a qualified handbag expert! I'd like to see you get a ;private investigator for nothing! Because that is basically what authenticators ARE, is private investigators, and they don't come ChEAP, like you ARE! .
Being a professional handbag expert is a SKILLED TRADE, just like any other! Are you really that stupid? I'd like to see you get the plumber to do a job for you, and then tell them their trade is worthless! You are an ignorant FOOL! I bet all of your bags are used, because honey, if you can't afford 10.00 for a professional authentcator, then I doubt you can afford NEW designer handbags! I hope you buy a fake with your TWO CENTS!
LOL. I posted an LV lock to authenticate on the LV forum, and apparently lovlouisvuiton was too LAZY to authenticate it for me. She insists on telling me to authenticate using a PAID third-party seller. HOW LAZY IS THAT? I'm about to waste money just to see if my lock is real or not. It only takes her 1 minute to authenticate, but I guess she is too lazy. I guess she would rather authenticate the other clearly fake bags that are posted on that topic. Typical.
Scammed by IMGG
Ms. georgette Gilbert solicited two styles of Chanel handbags, one of which I owned. I contacted her, sent her pictures and she purchased via paypal insisting she must use paypal to protect herself.. She files a not as described claim with paypal claiming the purse was stained, which it was and is not. Paypal directed her to return the purse, of course, as they always side with the purchaser. Gilbert left negative feedback despite my contacting Vlad and a moderator in advance of the feedback as to what was transpiring. I was forbidden from leaving her feedback and was banned temporarily. So when folks claim TPF has members who scam, yes they do indeed. I am appalled but then again I suppose I am naive. Should have never acquiesced to use paypal and I should have googled Georgette Gilbert. Had I done so, I would have never step foot on that path.
fake people that lie
The purse forum needs to be shut down for good. They lie, scam and I could go on and on. They have violated a lot people on eBay and Bonanza and much more. I have seen them even questioning top rated consignment shops. They have nothing better to do then sit around creating DRAMA.
I have heard that their are Law Suits pending against them. They have had innocent people on eBay suspended for reporting them selling fake handbags.
Indeed the Purseforum is the one selling fake LV's and many more items. This is another reason they have people on eBay suspended, so they can sell the fakes.
eBay themselves will be facing law suits as well. eBay should do more research before they listen to these unprofessional DRAMA queens trying to play FBI.
I have screenshots and printouts of the Purseforum's chats. Too late DRAMA QUEENS you've been busted.
Please anyone associated with this group best leave them now or they will be subject to the same penalty as the others.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Complete Scam
I have been a victim of the Purse Forum. I am actually a member of this website, mostly because it is a way of tracking all of the shenanigans that go on within the community of self-professed authenticators. These people are absolutely toxic! They pretend to be an advice website, but really they are not. Many months ago I sought their opinion regarding the authentication of a handbag that I wanted to purchase. I posted the required information (i.e. name of item, seller id, link to ebay listing) and was told within mere moments that the bag was authentic and the the seller was a "trusted seller." How stupid of me to just believe what these shysters told me. After receiving the bag, I took it in to be refurbished, much to my dismay it was returned to me and I was told that they could not refurbish my bag because it was not their merchandise to refurbish. Politely, they told me that it was a total FAKE! I am sure there are many perfectly innocent people who are members of this community, just like me, and believe all of the hype they are being sold. But this website is a total ripoff, and you will be led to buy from THEIR con artists on Ebay and other sites dedicated to selling knock-offs.
I have noticed that within the last few days, the "authenticators" seem to be very quiet, not currently "authenticating" items on the Purse Forum boards for everyone to see. I am sure they are still doing so privately through PMs, this sickens me, and if you use this "service" you are being scammed. Wake up people, this happens all over the internet. For instance, spotbags.cn poses as a "shopping advice" blog hosted by Eva Knox. It is interesting to see how she repeatedly offers the advice to go to pursevalley or http://iker.co/1yg, well that's because this is where she sells her FAKE bags. I could name several others who do this very thing to naive buyers everyday. All of this nonsense is federal trademark infringement and counterfeiting, false designation of origin, and common law unfair competition.
Stay far away from these people.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Yuna,
I agree with you about Unclebench.
No-joy
I agree with you. Look at my email exchange with them.
I wanted you to have this email thread between myself and Unclebench.
I made a huge mistake trusting Eva Knox from Spotbags. I tried posting to Eva's site 10 times and she never published my post. I wanted her to warn people about Unclebench and stop recommending the site.
On Dec 23, 2014, at 5:44 AM, Lili wrote:
I have not received the tracking info. When is my order that I paid over 1 month ago going to be shipped?
I have never experienced this with other sellers. I just want my order or a refund, so I can buy from a different seller.
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On Dec 21, 2014, at 5:32 AM, unclebench wrote:
hi，
i shipped the mini kelly to beijing ems last night, it will get there monday, and i will have tracking on monday
在 Dec 20, 2014，4:51 AM，Lili 写道：
I have not received the tracking information.
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On Dec 16, 2014, at 1:22 AM, UB wrote:
Okay I will send you tracking ASAP
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On Dec 16, 2014, at 12:21 PM, Lili wrote:
That's fine.
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On Dec 15, 2014, at 10:39 PM, UB wrote:
Hi
Just for the email back from office girl.
She said the box mini Kelly is not in stock. She shipped Epsom mink kelly, would it be ok?
I will send pics in the next email.
Sent from my iPhone
On 2014年12月14日, at 下午11:45, Lili wrote:
What is the status? Per my bank my money was received by your bank.
I only ordered from your site against my better judgement because of Eva Knox at Spotbags. She gave a good review. I disagree.
Please send my order or a REFUND. I will order from Pursevalley.
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On Dec 13, 2014, at 9:32 AM, UB wrote:
Hi
Sorry am traveling at the moment
I don't have wifi all the time, I will send you email about the states of your order in china morning.
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 13, 2014, at 5:53 AM, lili wrote:
I sent you proof of my bank transfer.
Please send me my order and if you can not.
REFUND MY MONEY
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If u can afford an authentic branded good pls don't show off .
I'm also believe in highly recommendation Of Eva Knox because She Highly recomend www.unclebench.com...
although i've heard from her that uncle bench is good Quality! although a little bit Pricey!
I paid $2, 080 plus $45 dollars shipping Fee...
but it took 3 months since the item did't arrived.
my Friend also in singapore ordered from them and promised to deliver on next year month of january...
could you imagine that they're selling thousand dollar but they service is not good...
i'm totally mentally stress..i'm working 18 hours a day and night to save money...
Please help me to spread and think other clients to buy in uncle bench...
i'm not judging them first but it took a long months to wait...
YUNA
^^ Professional Seller? More like... PROFESSIONAL... SCAM ARTIST!
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Fraud
After reading the many complaints submitted by other victims of the Purse Forum, I decided to do a little digging on my own. Last year I listed a Louis Vuitton handbag that I had personally purchased at an LV retailer in New York for auction, I needed to earn some cash for my upcoming wedding, and decided that I would list some of my items on Ebay. I was shocked when Ebay removed my listing claiming I had committed a trademark violation by listing the item, and that the item "may not be authentic." Of course I was confused, knowing full well that it was an item purchased by me personally from an LV retailer, and could not figure out why it had been removed based on these complaints. I began to wonder just how many other people this had happened to, and if they knew that their listings were called out as fakes, when they were in fact authentic handbags. I would not have even known who called my listing out if an interest buyer had not emailed me a told me that my bag had been verified as fake by the authenticators on Purse Forum. In all honesty, my first reaction was fear, what had I done wrong, and why was I being called out in this way. That is until I started looking into the reputation of this website Purse Forum. I was shocked to learn that they are not real authenticators, and even more shocked to learn that they habitually target sellers outside of their group to be removed from Ebay in order to limit their competition. I was even more angry to learn that Ebay has done nothing about it.
I am sure that I will receive a ton of comments from happy Purse Forum members, claiming that I am a liar, or confused, or crazy, but I am sharing this information so that buyers and sellers will understand who they are dealing with. I also found a ton comments claiming that these reports are all made by the same person. That is of course laughable, and there are literally hundreds of pages of comments from people who have experienced the same nonsense, but did not take the time to file a complaint here. Not to mention many other complaints on other websites that can be easily viewed.
I found the Purse Forum website to be difficult to navigate if you are trying to find out why they called your item a counterfeit. But what I learned is that they do not actually provide any reason for doing so, they simply state that it "looks off to them" or simply say "fake" and provide no further details. This is not acceptable, and should not be acceptable to those looking for verification on this website. My suggestion for those who have been in this situation is that you plug the words "seller id" followed by your Ebay seller ID into Google for a quick search, and see if your name comes up in this supposed authentication website. My second suggestion is that you contact all of your bidders/buyers and share the numerous links to the reports of fraud and harassment on this site and other websites that have been perpetrated by this group so that they may make an informed decision for themselves. Then, report to them to Ebay and anywhere else you can on the internet. Do not let them get away with defrauding buyers or slandering your name!
Bottom line here, these people have no business authenticating designer items, nor have they been asked to by the makers of these items. If I told you that I had performed prostate exams on hundreds of people but was not trained or licensed to do so, would you let me perform yours and issue you a diagnosis?
Consumer Fraud, Scam, Bait and Switch
If you are one the many individuals that believe that the Purse Forum is just a group of really sweet ladies who are just looking out for others in their spare time, for free...I am sorry, but you are an unwitting victim (or member if you like) of a classic bait-and-switch scam. This website is an absolute SCAM.
1. First of all, these people have absolutely no business or qualifications to authenticate anything. Moreover, they authenticate obvious replicas that their own members sell on Ebay consistently. Their are literally hundreds of complaints on the internet in numerous locations that you should read before you blindly believe what they are telling you. If you do enough digging, you will also find a very long list of Purse Forum members who sell knock-off bags on Ebay on a consistent basis. Individuals simply have to do a better job at determining WHO they are getting their information from before they jump in with both feet. If you rely on their not-so-expert opinion simply because you saw a link that said "authenticate this Chanel, or LV, or Hermes, etc." you do yourself a great disservice, and set yourself up to be victimized.
2. How and Why they do it. The Purse Forums main goal is to report their competitions listings by reporting them to Ebay for removal, thereby paving the way to sell their counterfeit handbags as "authentic." Sadly, they have commandeered a host of individuals who believe what they are saying whole-heartedly, and without good judgement simply report everyone that purse forum rejects. Again, these people ARE NOT qualified to authenticate anything! The simple fact of the matter is that any one of us can report ANY item on Ebay for any number of reasons and have the listing removed. THIS IS NOT PROOF THAT AN ITEM IS COUNTERFEIT! However, these are the guerrilla tactics they use to discredit LEGITIMATE sellers everyday, thereby monopolizing the market on Ebay.
3. Consider this, why do they now only deal with authenticating items through auctions, and insist that the buyer (or questioner) provide the ID of the seller. This makes it easy for them to authenticate an item, without actually looking at it, based on WHO the seller is and to, in one word, without explanation cry FAKE on all other items. Why won't they authenticate items without a link from Ebay? Well, because individuals have caught on to their scam and have embedded pics of obvious replica bags on their website and claimed they were being sold by members of the purse forum on Ebay...one glance at the members name and these purposely faked photos of counterfeit bags were immediately called AUTHENTIC. Now that you have to provide the link, instead of being allowed to attach photos directly on the Purse Forum website, they have an extra layer of protection from being exposed as the scammers they truly are.
4. Consider this ludicrous statement made dozens of times on their website. "Loius Vuitton sales associates are not qualified to authentic the handbags they sell." Really? Now, why wouldn't a person who handles and sells these bags daily be MORE qualified to tell you if your bag is authentic than nameless faceless individuals who claim to be nothing more than collectors. Do the individuals at Purse Forum have the necessary qualifications, well of course not. Shouldn't that be a red flag to a conscientious buyer. A red flag indicating that these individuals have something to gain. Or at the very least, be considered absolute nonsense. The simple fact of the matter is that these high end designers do not train or employ their own authenticators, so where do these individuals get off believing that they are qualified. Well, the simple fact is that, they are not. They are a FRAUD, and their actions are unlawful.
5. Beware of listings on Ebay that tell you to "feel free to have one of the authenticators over on the Purse Forum authenticate this bag." That is your first indication that you are being had, and being lulled into a false sense of security. This is pure BAIT AND SWITCH! Again, consider this, at the very least these people do not have the requisite skills to authenticate anything, and at worst, they are scamming you into buying replica bags from them by pushing only their members items as authentic. Do not believe them when they say that they do not sell any of these items. They may not sell them from the Purse Forum platform, BUT, they most certainly sell them on Ebay. Moreover, they protect one another in their scam at all costs. Spend some time bouncing back and forth from their site to Ebay, and it is curious to see just how many members have so many purses to sell, so frequently, at such a colossal loss. This is an enormous red flag.
Of course they will tell you that I am simply a slanderous disgruntled seller, but what else can they say. You will have to do the research yourself...try "Purse Forum Ripoff" or "Purse Forum Scam" or Purse Forum Complaints" on your search engine, and read the 100s of remarks and complaints from others before you decide to simply believe what they are telling you. Of course they also say that all of these complaints are written by the SAME person, and at the same time say that we are ALL liars. Come on people, how likely can that be? Below is a copy of a letter sent to Purse Forum by an attorney, if you have been a victim of Purse Forums fraud, harassment or defamatory statements, I recommend you take action as this seller did.
"Dear Purse Forum Member "perlerare, "
We have been retained by Boutique Patina in regards to your forum post #[protected] at 10:45 a.m. EDT on December 5, 2010.
Your post (found at Post Ebay/Web Hermes Finds) contains false statements against my Client that carry severe implications...
Demand is hereby made that you immediately cease making any further false and defamatory statements regarding Boutique Patina or any of its items for sale on any online venue or medium.
I am sending a separate, more comprehensive letter to the owner of this Web site demanding your contact information, but in the essence of time and urgency of this matter, I am posting here as this is the only way for us to reach you at this present time. I do so to request your voluntary compliance so I may send you formal notice and discuss a satisfactory resolution of this matter before we seek among other things an injunction, a lawsuit for defamation in which we will seek any and all damages incurred by my Client including damage to reputation, damages to current and future sales, and costs to commence and litigate a formal lawsuit.
The irrefutable fact of the matter is that you have declared an item of my Client’s as a counterfeit Hermes product. Hermes has accepted for refurbishment the item(s) in question, signifying Hermes’ ownership of the creation of these products, thereby implying authenticity. Should you further question the integrity of this process for reasons unknown to us, we can visit your claims even more carefully through third party testimony in a court of law.
Again, we will be contacting the owner of this Web site for your information but are asking that you proactively contact us to expedite this procedure and minimize the Web site’s involvement.
If you or your attorney fail to respond to our offices to reach a satisfactory agreement in regards to your seriously defamatory statements against my Client, we will be forced to seek any and all remedies under the law against http://forum.purseblog.com to obtain your contact information so that we may bring proper proceedings against you.
I am asking that you contact my office immediately, at [protected] .
I await your response.
DAVID L. SHIN
Attorney at Law
Shin & Associates P.C.
BETTER YET, I recommend that you also contact Louis Vuitton, Hermes, Coach, and Chanel, as well as Ebay and explain the Purse Forum's fraudulent actions so that they may help to more quickly shut them down. I assure you that no matter what Purse Forum tells you, they are in no way working on behalf of, or with the consent of any of these designers, and they are not, simply out of the goodness of their hearts, looking at for you!
fake handbag accusations
Hyacinth and Beenburned, members of the purseblog.com website, have set themselves up as self-proclaimed Coach handbag and accessories experts on the purseblog forum. Do not depend on the advice of these people to authenticate any Coach merchandise. They steer members to specific sellers they favor and go about having the listings of their competition removed by falsely reporting them to be selling counterfeit merchandise. These two are not to be trusted.
Absolutely emphatically not true. Those two are geniuses and total experts at authenticity. They have studied everything there is to know about handbags, scarves, jewelry, wallets, wristlets, etc. from the stitching to the hardware. They spend an inordinate amount of time helping buyers so they don't get taken advantage of. And they do this for nothing. They are totally honest and NEVER steer any buyer TO anyone, they only warn them against buying FROM sellers of fakes, shilling sellers, or sellers that are in any way dishonest. They also help sellers who have an item they want to list but aren't sure about authenticity. I would take their word in a minute over anyone else.
Report Harassment by TPF Members to EBay
EBAy is actively pursuing information on harassment by The Purse Forum members. They want to know if they are 'reporting' your listing, emailing with bogus questions, buying and not paying for your items.
They are attempting to break the TPF mafia which is illegally blocking the course of business on eBay in the Handbags category. Please call into customer service to make all reports. They will flag their accounts and track their abuse until they have enough substance to remove them.
The Purse Forum is also being watched by IC3 so report to thta agency will be beneficial in removing this conduit for selling SELF- AUTHENTICATED knock-off bags!
Good luck
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Just curious. I did a google search on purse forum gets a rico indictment, and found nothing. Where did you get this information?
Purse Forum supports sale of fakes by their advertiser
Once again, counterfeit goods are being sold to Purse Forum members via affiliation with the Purse Forum, and the owners of the site speak out in defense of their advertiser, despite MANY of their own members being sold fakes by PF Advertiser, Bluefly.
http://forum.purseblog.com/gucci/please-read-bluefly-sold-fake-gucci-653503.html
When it comes to his bottom $$, PF ADMIN VLAD is willing to go to great lengths to protect his advertising revenue... including intimidation, subtle threats of lawsuits against members, questioning members motives & ability to authenticate... the same members who authenticate on his site daily FOR FREE.
http://forum.purseblog.com/gucci/please-read-bluefly-sold-fake-gucci-653503-10.html post 139
Tsk, tsk... how low can you go?
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When a company starts getting bad publicity the company will make every effort to bury it in the search engines so I did a deep search.
http://www.google.com/search?q=the+purse+forum&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a#hl=en&client=firefox-a&hs=5Oa&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&q=+site:complaintsboard.com+the+purse+forum&sa=X&ei=095STbbVAYG8lQeK4YDgCg&ved=0CIUBEK0CMAk&fp=7b42aab5b155468d
Proud NOT to be a member of the purse forum
I always try to educate myself when making any purchase. After shopping online for some time now I keep reading finding sellers auctions where the seller proclaimed that they were a proud member of the purse forum. Out of curiosity, I did some research to see was required for me to qualify for a purse forum membership. The results of my research was surprising.
Purse Forum Member Qualifications:
Know how to use a computer
Have an email account
Knowledge? (not sure - No online test, no past experience required, seems like my dog can be a member?)
Just register for an account and wala... you could be a member of the purse forum too. My kind of qualifications!
Ok, so now I am a member, what does it do for me?
Read articles on how to authenticate
get opinions
talk bags
jump on the bandwagon when trashing a seller.
Become a member of the judge and jury
Tout my purse forum membership when asking for a discount (didn't do a thing for getting a better price, actually seemed to turn the seller off).
OOO aahhh,
bump alot
jump on another trash that seller band wagon
go in cognition and promote my own stuff
talk about others in the backroom
Research:
In my research I found that there are those who despise the purse forum.
I about fell off my chair when I read the article that the purse forum members acted like a bunch of wet cats. It was actually a hilarious post where a group from another forum found the purse forum and could not believe they were attacking someone. Their conversation went to talk about something else but every once in awhile, someone from the forum would check in for what seems like a good laugh at these forum members. The comments were hilarious. "they are still dining over there"... more conversation... "wow, 3 days later and they are still feasting...more conversation... then someone made the comment... they act like a bunch of wet cats. ROFLMAO, I still giggle at that one.
I have read articles about their Mob Mentality / Herd Mentality
Read how one seller was a member under cover who was promoting their own company by asking questions and linking to their bags, the article read that the same uncover member also asked if their bag was authenticated then came in as another member and authenticated the bag. It went on to say that it was easy to figure out. just spell the member name backwards. Also read about the take down of a seller who tried to defend themselves and when they posted, the post was edited. Oh the clucking chickens comment was also hilarious.
Anyway, all out of fun.. If anyone is wondering whats all this Proud Member of the Purse Forum about. Here is more from my research.
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/the-purse-forum-c291013.html
http://www.merareview.com/35040/unwarranted-&-unfounded-accu.html
http://www.merareview.com/comments/12749
http://thepurseforumadvisory.blogspot.com/2010/02/is-purse-forum-big-front-scam.html
http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/scam-c293926.html
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=136452816381369&ref=mf
Signed:
Proud not be a Purse Forum Member
Sorry guys and gals,
...and now let the real fun begin LOL I guess its my turn to be dinner!
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I travel with a bag over my shoulder baggallini review; it’s much more convenient than a simple lady’s shoulder bag. Hands are free. I have a small one, but there is enough space for everything you need: a phone, a camera, a wallet. And I always keep a bag in my bag, for water, jacket, and other staff. I never traveled with a backpack, I can’t imagine how it hangs from behind and anyone can come and open it...
Never trust any critic of luxury goods who writes "wala" for "voila"...
I'm a long-time tPF member but use it primarily for reference and research, especially regarding styles, colors, leathers, etc.. I do not participate in most of the online gab fest and self-congratulatory posts... they seem to consist of little more than patting each other on the back. I have encountered some nice members but others -- particularly in the Hermes forum -- are rude, condescending and snobbish. They clearly don't have anything better to do than pretend they are Queen for a Day. I also have encountered some sellers who tried to use tPF as some sort of valid credentialing. It is not; the authentications are simply amateurs' volunteers opinion, albeit some are very experienced at it. If you aren't paying for the authentication and have a letter in hand to that effect, don't count on its validity. Caveat emptor always...
Agree 100%! I use tPF for research mainly and to ask an occasional question about how particular styles, leathers or colors are working out for owners and to become better informed. Not a bad thing! Their reference library is extremely helpful. The Hermes forum is the worst! Catty? Yes. Spoiled brats. Absolutely! But some of the authenticators and participants in other forums are very personable and seem to try to help.
Same here I only check in to tpf once in a while to find out whats new out there, never ask for authentication from members. I paid bababebi for her “in my opinion” expertise. Same with all those FB group chat where people busy asking other members whether their second hand bag is real or fake. Come on, be sensible!
I am a member of The Purse Forum- not proud of it, nor ashamed of it, just a member who finds the threads which authenticate items useful to back up my own thoughts on bags I've bought. I thought The Purse Forum was alright actually, until I found a thread slamming Fashionphile- a site which I've bought 2 great bags from (a vintage Chanel and a Prada), both of which could not have been more obviously authentic (2 of the most beautiful bags I have ever seen). I explained that the postage was quick, they're customer service was great (receiving replies to my queries quickly) and that the bags were beautiful, I also pointed out that the few people slamming Fashionphile were continuously repeating their unfortunate experiences over and over in numerous posts and that complaining about a fault that they even admitted was either mentioned in the description or shown in pictures, or the price (don't buy it if you don't like the price) were silly to do so and that these things did not make a company bad, and then they went bat-###-crazy at me. It was really pathetic actually, I hadn't been rude at all, just pointed out what was obvious and another member agreed with me. The better part though is that these other members live in the US and were complaining about problems with communication- I live in England and all my phone calls were received and dealt with despite the receiver's and my own accent getting in the way for both of us. They even called me back when they needed to look things up for me and did research on similar bags for me as well as taking additional photos of a bag for me that I later decided was not for me. I was really annoyed with the members of The Purse Forum in this thread actually- especially when they reported my posts because I mentioned that I do think they are quite "pathetic"- they're voicing their opinions really abruptly and aggressively, why can't I voice mine politely?
Any and all posts made by the new posting ID,
" Algie Jive Is BagintheSaddleAmen "
Are not being made by the real "Mr. Peter Pirrello", "Algie Jive", "Killing Machine Choppers or associates" This fraud is perpetrated in a attempt to impersonate me online. I apologize for any confusion, or inconvenience this may have caused anyone.
" Daria48_is_ Hyacinth_is_beeme2" And "Daria48_is_ Hyacinth" "Vapor111"
Made some posts on this thread about my Shop. " Killing Machine Choppers. " If anyone has any information or links, emails, anything posted by this person / persons about my Chopper Shop. PLEASE contact me. Anything about their motorcycle or repairs done by my shop. Or Veterans Benefits Events hosted by my shop.
Thanks, Algie
Let me just say, Court today was an (AWESOME * EXPERIENCE*)
Yes, there are hundreds of complaints against Purse forum. Their latest debacle being that their longtime advertiser BLUEFLY was caught AGAIN selling fake Balenciaga and Gucci. And OH how the ADMIN defend BF and threaten their members about being sued for accusations they (the members make online, and throw both members and PF authenticators under the bus (YET AGAIN). OH MY, CYA much?
http://forum.purseblog.com/gucci/please-read-bluefly-sold-fake-gucci-653503.html (notice ADMIN posts beginning PG 9)
http://forum.purseblog.com/balenciaga-shopping/beware-fake-sold-on-bluefly-654809-7.html
" Daria48_is_ Hyacinth_is_beeme2" And "Daria48_is_ Hyacinth"
Made some posts about my Shop. " Killing Machine Choppers. " If anyone has any information or links, emails, anything posted by this person about my Chopper Shop. PLEASE contact me. Anything about their motorcycle or repairs done by my shop.
Thanks, Algie
UNWARRANTED & UNFOUNDED ACCUSATIONS
IAM WRITING THIS COMPLAINT BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN A VICTIM OF THE PURSE FORUM IN THE PRADA HALL OF SHAME. I WAS ACCUSED OF SELLING "FAKE" HANDBAGS ON EBAY BY PRADA PSYCHO & MISS FIGGY. I WONDERED WHY THESE PEOPLE WOULD WRITE SUCH NASTY LIES WHEN ALL THE BAGS I SELL ARE AUTHENTIC. I DID NOT REPLY TO THEIR ALLEGATIONS, BUT REPORTED THEIR THREADS TO THE PURSE FORUM & REQUESTED THE THREADS BE DELETED. THE P/F STATES "PLEASE DO NOT INTERVENE TO CONFRONT A TROLL OF RUDENESS ON THE BOARDS, JUST USE THE REPORT BUTTON TO ALERT THE MODS & LET THEM HANDLE IT FROM THERE". "IN THE MEANTIME, JUST IGNORE THE POSTER UNTIL A MOD CAN INTERVENE". "ALWAYS BE RESPECTFUL WHEN YOU POST A THREAD & TREAT OTHERS AS YOU EXPECT TO BE TREATED". " THIS IS AN OPEN THREAD & EVERYONE IS WELCOME TO PARTICIPATE". IT IS NOW 6 MONTHS LATER & THE THREADS REGARDING MYSELF ARE STILL IN THE HALL OF SHAME FOR EVERYONE IN THE WORLD TO READ. I HAVE CONTACTED THE PURSE FORUM SEVERAL TIMES, I AM STILL WAITING FOR A REPLY, HENCE IAM WRITING TO THE COMPLAINTS BOARD & WILL ALSO BE CONTACTING THE PRESIDENT OF EBAY. I FEEL SORRY FOR THE PEOPLE WHO POST SUCH DISRESPECTFUL THREADS ABOUT OTHERS. THEY OBVIOUSLY HAVE NO LIFE & ARE JEALOUS OF OTHER'S SUCCESSES. THEY JUST CANNOT COME TO TERMS WITH THE FACT THAT EBAY SELLERS CAN ACTUALLY ACQUIRE AUTHENTIC ITEMS. WHILST I HAD LIVE LISTINGS ON EBAY, I RECEIVED SEVERAL MESSAGES FROM DIFFERENT PEOPLE ACCUSING ME OF SELLING FAKE BAGS. THEY WERE REPORTED TO EBAY & IT WAS LATER FOUND THAT THIS WAS ACTUALLY ONE PERSON WHO HAD THREE IDENTITIES. ONE PERSON IN PARTICULAR ALSO HAD THE ORDASITY TO GO INTO MY FEEDBACK & CONTACT MY CUSTOMERS TO ADVISE THEM TO REPORT ME AS I HAD SOLD THEM A FAKE BAG. I HAVE CONDUCTED SOME RESEARCH & INVESTIGATIONS OF MY OWN & HAVE DISCOVERED THAT THESE PEOPLE HAVE INFORMANTS IN DIFFERENT COUNTRIES. THEY ALSO DELETE PORTIONSOF CONVERSATIONS ON THE THREADS (COPY & PASTE) & ADD THEIR OWN INFORMATION. I CANNOT BELIEVE HOW MANY GULLIBLE FOLLOWERS THEY HAVE, THEY ARE ALL SO RUDE. THEY CLAIM TO BE EXPERTS IN AUTHENTICATIONS, HA HA...AS THE DISCLAIMER ON THE PURSE FORUM STATES - "THE EVALUATIONS POSTED BY THE PURSE FORUM'S MEMBERS ARE ONLY OPINIONS THAT STEM FROM PERSONAL EXPERIENCES AS SHOPPERS & COLLECTORS. THEY ARE NOT LEGALLY BINDING OR PROFESSIONAL AUTHENTICATORS & ARE NOT TO BE TREATED AS SUCH" WELL, PURSE FORUM, YOUR "MOD" ISN'T DOING THEIR JOB VERY WELL. EVERYTHING THE PURSE FORUM INDICATES THEY STAND FOR DOES NOT REFLECT THIS WHEN YOU GO INTO THE HALL OF SHAME. OH WELL, WHAT GOES AROUND COMES AROUND - I GUESS ONE DAY THEY WILL END UP WRITING SOMETHING ABOUT SOMEONE WHO MIGHT JUST TAKE ACTION FOR DEFAMATION OF CHARACTER.
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effenhaute3,
Heads up... It is very unwise of you to contact the sellers and buyers of fakes, on ebay. It is a total violation and is considered 'auction interference'. You can actually lose your account for this, if you are caught doing it. The only thing that is allowed is for you to report the listing(s) . Period.
I also agree w/ you OHU. Short and to the point!
Vapor: I've never contacted a seller via eBay messaging and called them "thieves", "cheats", or "scammers".
I only send messages to those that you mention that might not be aware they are selling counterfeits. Those that believe they can purchase these high end designer bags from "wholesaler" websites. I obviously made an error with "Fakeme" here.
FAKE ME... FYI... selling counterfeits is illegal. Complaining about being reported on ebay for selling fakes is akin to calling the cops when your drug dealer rips you off. Don't want to be reported? Don't sell fakes. It's not rocket science!
You should be thankful someone tried to warn you that your stuff was counterfeit. They DO arrest people for selling counterfeits.
Lauren, what type of forum are you starting? If you want a forum to blast the purse blog, there are already quite a few.
Fakeme:
Your listings were reported and removed for one reason: They were listings of counterfeit bags, PERIOD.
And those eBay sellers that list and sell counterfeit bags are scammers!
I am not a troublemaker. I am not "immature" and am certainly not jealous of sellers that sell counterfeit handbags.
Yes my 100% feedback is private. eBay does not allow it's members to sell and have private feedback. eBay will not allow you to list anything with private feedback. My feedback is private because it is 100% from purchases. I do not want just anyone - family, friends, or complete strangers viewing my purchases. It's that simple.
A few years ago I was scammed with a fake bag. I spent a lot of my time researching and educating myself on counterfeits so it wouldn't happen again.
eBay encourages it's members to police themselves, so yes I do peruse the listings and report counterfeits to help others (unsuspecting eBay buyers) from being scammed. It has nothing to do with competition. I have never sold a Prada / Gucci / or Fendi bag. I will continue to spend a few minutes every morning to help remove listings of counterfeit bags.
Finally, I am not a member of the purse forum.
There is lots of EBay sellers on that forum that want to ruin other seller' business.But I am in the process of making my own forum.Hang in there.
WOW! That is almost the same type of email I recieved from an Ebay Seller Member for my items I was selling. This happened twice yestreday and today that they targeted just my listings and flagged and reported them to Ebay. Of course Ebay never does anything to protect the seller when they are getting harassed by these so called "PURSE EXPERTS!" I also was recieveing rude emails from this ebayer and I even reported this person to Ebay as harassment emails and still NOTHING was done...instead of investigatiing, they believed that Ebay member and still deleted my items! WTF! These people really need to get lives...how could you be that inmature and jealous to sit on Ebay and look for peoples postings to flag and get deleted. I even had a purse with no STOCK photos with a bidder get taken down because of so called "Violation." Yea okay sure whatever! This is the Ebay member hat kept harassing me: EBAY MEMEBR ID: effenhaute3, oh and they so call have 100% rating as a seller but hides their feedbacks...hmmmm interesting! Here is one of the last emails I recieved from this member before I reported them to Ebay: Please review my about me page. Do you really think that individual ebay sellers can purchase Prada/Gucci/Fendi/Chanel bags "wholesale"? Please do not be naive. If that was the case, and we could purchase bags for 1/3 of retail, there would be no need for their boutiques. Correct? No you did not do your research. Call Prada and ask them if your so called "wholesaler" is an authorized distributor. They will laugh at you. If you still don't believe me, then have your bag professionally authenticated. Our post photos on the purse forum. O better yet, google your supplier or do a search there. By the way, the authenticity cards are easier to fake than the bags are! - effenhaute3...beware of this ebayer and others who do nothing but target, stalk, and get your items taken off just because they suck as sellers and get jealous!
VAPOR 111 is 9624 judge,
Yeah, so what is your point ? You [censored]es from the ebay purse board just can't comprehend anyone who ever sticks up for a seller on ebay. That's because you are all so busy discrediting all of them but YOURSELVES, so you can eliminate the competition.
Well, get over it! You have no point. judge was correct to agree with this seller. It's not the seller's fault that the buyer moved. DUH...
Did it occur to you that the bags you were selling are indeed counterfeits?
You are aware that you cannot purchase authentic Prada bags "wholesale" correct?
You are aware that the "wholesale" internet sites are a big scam correct?
The font on your tags are wrong and the hardware is wrong. Counterfeiters cannot get these two parts of the handbag correct.
vapor111, u have spent lots of time criticising others for being mean to sellers because said sellers "mistakenly" listed fakes. Is this the kind of "nice" post that you make?
http://forums.ebay.com/db1/topic/Packaging-Shipping/Item-Shipped-To/510171248&start=0
from December 2009- buyer had incorrect address in paypal. This particular poster ATTACKED the buyer mercilessly:
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Guess you should have changed your address then, huh?
Sorry, but Ive had that issue. Buyer cant remember to change their address, then blames it all on me. I have no sympathy what-so-ever for a buyer that cannot update their address. Its not hard to do.
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Oh, and I believe you can file something with the PO for that theft.
I remember my first " Jessie Check " here in MN ( governor gave out a rebate of sorts for 2 years in a row ) The state had it in their records that they shipped to my new address, yet, when it came down to who got my check, and signed it, it had gone to a very old address.
I had to file with the PO some type of theft form ( because it was addressed to me, that person could not open my mail, however he did. Its a federal offense ) However, with your case, how would you be able to prove it?
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babylove80jr wrote:
While this is the buyers error, it seems that OP is not trying to blame the seller for the situation, rather go after the people he believes has his item.
You may want to contact the policy and run the story by them, see what they think.
Either way, will this seller get the pos they so richly deserve, even though buyer cant remember to change their address? Probably not, Im betting neut at best.
The only problem being, how will this person prove that those people really truly received said item? I guess he could sit outside their home, and wait for the PO person to show up to deliver mail, and give them the third degree about a certain package, but what are the odds of that happening and being able to prove?
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numbr26 wrote:
Wow, I didnt think I would get lynched in the replies. I blame no one, except the people who kept the merchandise. The seller has been awesome, and actually has refunded me half of the money and gave me some bottles of wine for the other half, since he did send it to an uncofirmed address, and NOT the one that I specifically noted when I paid through PayPal.
Thanks BabyLove, for the suggestion. I guess it would not hurt to go to the police and see what they suggest.
For the record, I informed the seller that if I do get the camera (i know, slim chance), I would return the money and merchandise to him. There are still some honest people in the world.
The replies in this thread appear to come from sour folks who are looking to take out their frustrations on buyers, instead of addressing the issue at hand. Its Christmas people.
We are sour because, buyers like you, who are too lazy to log into PP and change your address, get their purchases mailed to the wrong address, then it comes back on the seller.
As for you, you made off, too lazy to change your address officially, yet, the seller gave you a full refund so to speak between money and product.
Just sick. Buyers like you make me sick. You should have refused both the money and the product since it was fully your fault.
Have you gotten your lazy butt over to PP and fixed the address issue yet?
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Re: Item shipped to wrong address!
Dec 25, 2009 6:08 PM
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9724judge wrote:
numbr26 wrote:
Wow, I didnt think I would get lynched in the replies. I blame no one, except the people who kept the merchandise. The seller has been awesome, and actually has refunded me half of the money and gave me some bottles of wine for the other half, since he did send it to an uncofirmed address, and NOT the one that I specifically noted when I paid through PayPal.
Thanks BabyLove, for the suggestion. I guess it would not hurt to go to the police and see what they suggest.
For the record, I informed the seller that if I do get the camera (i know, slim chance), I would return the money and merchandise to him. There are still some honest people in the world.
The replies in this thread appear to come from sour folks who are looking to take out their frustrations on buyers, instead of addressing the issue at hand. Its Christmas people.
We are sour because, buyers like you, who are too lazy to log into PP and change your address, get their purchases mailed to the wrong address, then it comes back on the seller.
As for you, you made off, too lazy to change your address officially, yet, the seller gave you a full refund so to speak between money and product.
Just sick. Buyers like you make me sick. You should have refused both the money and the product since it was fully your fault.
Have you gotten your lazy butt over to PP and fixed the address issue yet?
For that matter, how long ago did you move? If recently, too lazy to fill out the change of address form at the PO? If its been over a year, you way too lazy if you havent made it to PP to change the address.
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Re: Item shipped to wrong address!
Dec 25, 2009 6:13 PM
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I really loved the " sellers honest mistake " give me a break.
When a seller hits print label from Ebay, it takes you to PP, where that info is already filled in. Had you fixed the address issue before you paid, the address would have been changed. However, you being the laziest person that you are, you couldnt take the minute it takes to change your address.
SAD just sad, and now seller is out the camera, the money and other product.
Gosh, what a great buyer. Just the type that Ebay needs on Ebay...
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Re: Item shipped to wrong address!
Dec 26, 2009 10:54 AM
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9724judge wrote:
I really loved the " sellers honest mistake " give me a break.
When a seller hits print label from Ebay, it takes you to PP, where that info is already filled in. Had you fixed the address issue before you paid, the address would have been changed. However, you being the laziest person that you are, you couldnt take the minute it takes to change your address.
SAD just sad, and now seller is out the camera, the money and other product.
Gosh, what a great buyer. Just the type that Ebay needs on Ebay...
I am a great buyer, just look at my feedback, all purchases.
By the way, to the person that asked if i had 'gotten my lazy butt over to change my address', you obviously didnt really take the time to read my original post as the answer is there. You 'at home merchants' just read what you want to read and some how get off on being tough on the web.
*****Incidentally, the address is probably 5 years old. I never removed it but its not my default address so Im still not sure how the seller got it as I have made literally over a hundred purchases without a problem. The paypal screen defaults to your confirmed address but i can change that to a different one (my office address as an example) if I so choose. That wasnt the case here so its still a mystery as to how that address was selected as the mailing address.
If the address is 5 years old, why havent you deleted it off your account? Too lazy? Or were you planning on moving back there?
When you go to pay for your item, you should always verify the address. PP has glitches. That is not in any way your sellers fault.
And why on earth would you send a message to seller correcting the address, if in fact, the correct address was showing? Oh wait, you forgot to check to verify the invoice / payment notice was showing the correct address?
Buyers like you cost us money when you cant verify addresses. Then you have the gahoonas to take money and product back from the seller for your screw up? Stating it was an honest mistake on the sellers side? You make me sick. Like I said, you should have refused both because of YOUR error.
And Yeah, you have 100% feedback as a buyer. Jee, like every buyer has 100% feedback. Doesnt impress me one single bit.
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did anyone count how many times 9724judge told that buyer how sick she was of buyers like that? is no one allowed to make a mistake?
again, here is the full thread:
http://forums.ebay.com/db1/topic/Packaging-Shipping/Item-Shipped-To/510171248
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Wait, what? Just don't, never go there, never talk about it, never talk to them, you'll be sorry, never go there to authenticate, and ask yourself why bonanzle has a person working on their blog and removing bonanzle listings...ANY listing, purses, makeup, jewelry, clothes, you name it...as soon as a forum follower points a finger at you rlistng on the fake bonanzle listings thread, you're dead no questions asked..."Tom the bonanzle assistant" returns to bonanzle to promptly remove your listing...because evidently these ladies who have nothing better to do then sit on their butts and blog all day are highly intelligent and complete specialists in ALL things designer. GET A LIFE you are the biggest group of frauds... a minimal amount of you have even 1/4 of what you claim. Really? You've got 6 Hermes $20k bags in your ppossession and you're here to let us all know today? Generally people with moeny don't brag about it, and definitely don't make it a point totell all about waht they have, Which by the way, if you are such a fortunate lady, why can;t you dfind anything better to do then sit in front of this ridiculous farse you all are calling a blog all day? Stop authenticating each other's fakes, and sabotagin poor unsuspecting sellers who have spent years building up accounts...really, your forum is ruining peoples lives. I love hoe you all claim to be against fakes and that you are there to help out just to get hem off the net...but anyoen with eyes can watch Lee and Will pass on fakes as uathentic for their members listings all day long...organized crime. Counterfeit purse rings through the forum manipulating Ebay is the new mob. lol get a life
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
This all boils down to one word- jealousy.
Most of this is spurred by one woman, Jerri Pope, known as Purseservere @ Bonanzl- she can't get along. She was removed from these forums when she couldn't play well with others and now she's vindictive. She lies about her location, the condition of her bags, her "Italian" leather worker, Tony, on and on. She was confronted about this stuff and other unethical practices on TPF and EBay. ALL these pages are her response. This is how big her jealousy gets.
There are other people who write some of this sometimes but she was and is the driving force. and it's pointless to talk with her. she can't have conversations. Read through these pages and it's pretty clear. She'll end up booted off of effenhaute next.
So in the end we say move on, nothing to see here...
scam
The Purse Forum is a set up to give false credibility and misinformation to insecure buyers for the purpose of assisting members in the sales of mirror image knock-off bags.
I was referred to the purse forum by an eBay seller to 'authenticate' her very expensive bag that I doubted was authentic. The seller was a member of TPF and had hundreds of positive feedback yet I was almost sure the bag on their site a just a very good mirror image fake. I own many bag of this maker and I know the leather quality... it just wasn't there.
When I asked on the purse forum about the bag and gave the link to eBay. It took them... oh about 1 second to respond from 2 different identities that the bag was 100% authentic. Then they sort of high fived each other about how right they both were...YAY... huh?
So I said I had issues with XYZ and what did they think about it, why did they find this bag to be authentic? No response. Then suddenly some 3rd identity chimes in basically saying how dare I question the opinion of these fine ladies who give up their precious time to take my hand AND lead me into the land of authenticity! LO I was cracking up at the indignation, it was so strange and over the top.
Then I went a few pages back and read their previous posts and by luck found the same style bag being sold by a different seller. This time the bag was being dissected and called to question for the same regular XYZ kind of questions I'd just asked! They never really gave substance just said that doesn't look quite right, where is the information? Such bull.
I know these bags very well and knew this was indeed an authentic bag and it definitely compared very much better to the one they'd just given the thumbs up and the high five, yet they said it was in question. The one and only difference that made it compare unfavorably was that the seller was not a Purse Forum member.
When I noted their own remarks to them and asked again why did they have this opinion it wasn't 5 minutes later that I found I was Banned Forever! LOL... I'm not kidding... the notice said... "Banned Term: Forever Reason: No reason stated"! OMG those purse forum hags are a bag of snakes! If you want information go to the makers for it. You should stay very, very far away from these miscreants they're just fake bag pushers and soooooo low.
The Purse Forum site is 1000% inauthentic, fake, a cheap copy of a real information site, not a discussion group nor a site to provide trustworthy information and ''it' should be banned.
Don't buy The Purse Forum! They are a set up to give false credibility for the sales of mirror image knock-off bags.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
https://ripoffscams.com/reports-filed/pierre-paoli-cosette-com-au/sydney-au/pierre-paoli-cosette-com-au-fake-fraud-unpaid-bills-cheating-everybody-sydney-au/900930/ https://www.google.co.in/amp/s//link removed/ https://www.google.co.in/amp/s/www.sitejabber.com/reviews/cosette.com.au/amp. https://www.scamadviser.com/check-website/cosette.com.au.
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hello together,
here is the 2nd review on that company cosette.com.au my fashion republic or pierre axel paoli from sydney from australia.
we wrote several reviews about them last week and all got cancelled from cosette.com.au, cause they are telling that they would sell authentic products, ... but cosette.com.au with the mothercompany my fashion republic and the head of FAKE pierre paoli is deleting just the reviews and using a company called: feefo.com and cosette.com.au is buying the positive reviews, as we attached the documentation from feefo.com and on the other attachments you find the negative
COSETTE Reviews | http://www.cosette.com.au reviews | Feefo
COSETTE Reviews | http://www.cosette.com.au reviews | Feefo
COSETTE Reviews. Find out what genuine customers have said about cosette.com.au. Real reviews from real people.
how it can be that hundred of people are telling and confirming the same like we do that cosette.com.au IS SELLING FAKE FROM CHINA and here is the link with all the real reviews from cosette.com.au and their FAKE BUSINESS
******* - authentic or not?
******* - authentic or not?
I would like to hear the opinions of others who have bought something from them or who have thought about it. T...
pleny of sites that cosette.com.au and my fashion republic is selling fake with their ceo pierre paoli.
on trustpilot their are deleting all the bad reviews with : cosette.com.au is selling fake and my fashion republic is selling fake, but i hope to show you in the end now all the results, cause we made not just a case of our 205, 000$ what cosette.com.au and my fashion republic group stole from us, we inform even the police in australia about the business activity from cosette.com.au and pierre paoli, that it will finally stop to cheat all the consumers and on top even the suppliers from cosette.com.au and my fashion republic group.
the fake bags what cosette.com.au sent to us to our dubai office we inspected from the brand itself and the brand givenchy and gucci is making a case against cosette.com.au and my fashion republic cause of fraud and selling fake items for several years.
i hope in the end that not other suppliers from cosette.com.au and my fashion republic or pierre paoli itself got screw, or at least that our post here will finally stop cosette.com.au and pierre paoli to cheat people and stop selling fake to everybody.
the worst from my fashion republic group and cosette.com.au is, that the clients got screw even with a fake cerftificate from entrupy.com and that a big company like entrupy.com is not cutting the line between them and cosette.com.au, cause their are damaging even the brand name entrupy.com and the clients wont believe anymore the system of entrupy.com cause of the fraud and fake actions of cosette.com.au
we dont think that we will get our money back from cosette.com.au and of course not from pierre paoli or my fashion republic group in sydney, but we hope with our letter and proofs, that we can aware people to buy anything from cosette.com.au in sydney or my fashion republic group and for sure the suppliers of the fake product that they will be catch as well
people like us are loosing hundreds of thousands cause of the rip off story of cosette.com.au
here are all the details from the thief pierre paoli if clients wanna get back their money from cosette.com.au and their fake bags.
pierre@cosette.com.au
mobile numer: [protected]
hope to warn all of you guys and be careful from cosette.com.au and their fake products
Hello together,
I can insure you that cosette.com. au with the founder of pierre axel paoli is selling fake!
Cosette.com with the mothercompany myfashionrepublic pty ltd / group is buying from china their products and I can give you hundreds of proofs! pierre axel paoli and myfashionrepublic group alias cosette.com. au is ripping off even their suppliers by sending back their fake products instead of authentic merchandise what pierre paoli and myfashionrepublic group alias cosette.com. au got delivered.
The whole business of myfashionrepublic group and cosette.com. au is fraud and pierre paoli is the men behind the system,... he manipulate with the entrupy device the client and making from an authentic product a proof and sending it with his fake china merchandise, this is what myfashionrepublic grouop and cosette.com. au is doing! pierre paoli has a lawsuit from our company over 200, 000$ already and the myfashionrepublic group and cosette.com. au shut down their store in martin place as well,...
So this must be a sign of a thief like pierre paoli is with his cosette.com. au
The story with the entrupy device is from his mouth as he told us this story that myfashionrepublic group and cosette.com. au can ripoff the people and making a fortune of money with it.
Pierre paoli and myfashionrepublic group is making this system since 2017 and in 2018 he sent us some of our products back, but what pierre paoli and myfashionrepublic group with cosette.com. au sent back?! all fake items and we are in dubai and trying now to get our money back from myfashionrepublic and pierre paoli with his pseudonym name cosette.com. au. I am adding the proof from the lawyer that all people can see what cosette.com. au alias myfashionrepublic with their ceo pierre axel paoli is doing.
We are making a case in europe against the ceo from cosette.com. au pierre axel paoli as well, cause is is french national, and as a french national he can get for the fraud he is doing with myfashionrepublic group or his cosette.com. au till 3 years of prison, and this we are trying now with our lawyers in europe as well, the next post against myfashionrepublic or cosette.com. au with pierre axel paoli will follow very fast, cause we cant see that cosette.com. au is selling fake to all people and cheating everybody as they want,...
Hi All,
cosette.com.au have been informed by one of our client that some defamation threads about our business have been posted onto this scam forum https://forum.purseblog.com
We tried to defend ourself by posting a reply but it was deleted within an hour. This forum is definitely a scam and we are now seeking legal advice to remove those fake comments as this is confusing for our clients.
Our business model is based on the inverted seasons between Europe and Australia. When the season ends in Europe we purchase excess stock from well-established partner brands in Italy and in France including labels such as Gucci, Saint Laurent, Givenchy, Balenciaga, Prada… This allows the authorised European retailers to sell their overstock in bulk at a lower prices. We pass on the lower prices to our customers in Australia.
We have found that generally Australian consumers are not used to having such low prices for luxury products and we are proud to change this.
We understand that there is a lot of misinformation on this forum that can be quiet confusing.
For your awareness COSETTE is an authorised re-seller of all labels carried both online and in our retails stores. We only sell authentic products coming directly from the brands licensees in Europe which we re-sell in Australia under the ACCC’ parallel imports law : https://www.accc.gov.au/business/treating-customers-fairly/selling-parallel-imports
Due to the locations of our stores at the MCA Government building in the Rocks and the high end shopping district, our products regularly go through verification of authenticity in order to successfully trade in those locations.
We also have been partnering with the only true authentication Artificial Intelligence system called https://www.entrupy.com
This third party artificial intelligence system is allowing us to check all stock coming from Europe but also to check all stock coming from individuals for our marketplace.
All other authentication companies review luxury designer items with only a few pictures without taking under consideration the year and batch of production of the models for each labels. Few details are changed from one batch to another in the manufacturing process of the models in order to limit the counterfeits. Not taking these under consideration leads to mistakes in authenticating.
Here are few certificates of some of the items we have on sell:
https://cert.entrupy.com/CV32X86
https://cert.entrupy.com/DVT32W9
https://cert.entrupy.com/WHTYDHY
https://cert.entrupy.com/4GY9J2T
https://cert.entrupy.com/V7CT9Q3
https://cert.entrupy.com/J2DKCVB
https://cert.entrupy.com/W8G4MK2
https://cert.entrupy.com/VDR7TGQ
https://cert.entrupy.com/XQ98DJJ
https://cert.entrupy.com/XBGD4JC
https://cert.entrupy.com/9TY47X2
https://cert.entrupy.com/DXBWKRG
https://cert.entrupy.com/B9C3VV7
https://cert.entrupy.com/HGV97C8
https://cert.entrupy.com/937HJCB
At COSETTE we take pride in our reputation for providing luxurious items at affordable prices. All of our items are 100% authentic and brand new. We carry a wide range of designer shoes, clothing, accessories and leather goods that we sell in our retail stores and online. All products come with the branded authenticity/care cards, serial numbers and branded dust bags.
Please contact us via info@cosette.com.au if you need any more information.
Faithfully
The Cosette Team
hello together,
here is the 2nd review on that company cosette.com.au my fashion republic or pierre axel paoli from sydney from australia.
we wrote several reviews about them last week and all got cancelled from cosette.com.au, cause they are telling that they would sell authentic products, ... but cosette.com.au with the mothercompany my fashion republic and the head of FAKE pierre paoli is deleting just the reviews and using a company called: feefo.com and cosette.com.au is buying the positive reviews, as we attached the documentation from feefo.com and on the other attachments you find the negative
COSETTE Reviews | http://www.cosette.com.au reviews | Feefo
COSETTE Reviews | http://www.cosette.com.au reviews | Feefo
COSETTE Reviews. Find out what genuine customers have said about cosette.com.au. Real reviews from real people.
how it can be that hundred of people are telling and confirming the same like we do that cosette.com.au IS SELLING FAKE FROM CHINA and here is the link with all the real reviews from cosette.com.au and their FAKE BUSINESS
******* - authentic or not?
******* - authentic or not?
I would like to hear the opinions of others who have bought something from them or who have thought about it. T...
pleny of sites that cosette.com.au and my fashion republic is selling fake with their ceo pierre paoli.
on trustpilot their are deleting all the bad reviews with : cosette.com.au is selling fake and my fashion republic is selling fake, but i hope to show you in the end now all the results, cause we made not just a case of our 205, 000$ what cosette.com.au and my fashion republic group stole from us, we inform even the police in australia about the business activity from cosette.com.au and pierre paoli, that it will finally stop to cheat all the consumers and on top even the suppliers from cosette.com.au and my fashion republic group.
the fake bags what cosette.com.au sent to us to our dubai office we inspected from the brand itself and the brand givenchy and gucci is making a case against cosette.com.au and my fashion republic cause of fraud and selling fake items for several years.
i hope in the end that not other suppliers from cosette.com.au and my fashion republic or pierre paoli itself got screw, or at least that our post here will finally stop cosette.com.au and pierre paoli to cheat people and stop selling fake to everybody.
the worst from my fashion republic group and cosette.com.au is, that the clients got screw even with a fake cerftificate from entrupy.com and that a big company like entrupy.com is not cutting the line between them and cosette.com.au, cause their are damaging even the brand name entrupy.com and the clients wont believe anymore the system of entrupy.com cause of the fraud and fake actions of cosette.com.au
we dont think that we will get our money back from cosette.com.au and of course not from pierre paoli or my fashion republic group in sydney, but we hope with our letter and proofs, that we can aware people to buy anything from cosette.com.au in sydney or my fashion republic group and for sure the suppliers of the fake product that they will be catch as well
people like us are loosing hundreds of thousands cause of the rip off story of cosette.com.au
here are all the details from the thief pierre paoli if clients wanna get back their money from cosette.com.au and their fake bags.
pierre@cosette.com.au
mobile numer: [protected]
hope to warn all of you guys and be careful from cosette.com.au and their fake products
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You are right. This app should really check purse authenticity. But actually I don't have a problem with that. I buy replicas of Hermes handbags in http://get2lux.cn. They look like original so I don't see a point to spend more money on handbag.
I posted self taken pictures of a bag I bought from ebay to authenticate.5 minutes later, I saw message that I was banned due to spamming. WTH.
Purse Forum is a scam, a sour suck on a lemon. Worthless bag of filth. BeenBurned, AKA, Nancy Burke has been SUED because of her misjudgment and lack of character. Other "popular" posters have been sued as well. Google it. lovelouisvuitton is a psycho stalker and low life and she calls herself an authenticator! The moderator, mistikat is oblivious and stands by those canker sores. They are all frauds. Be careful, they post your personal information on there and will do whatever they can to make you look bad. This is serious stuff, they better watch themselves or there will be a lawsuit against them soon. They are vulgar little maggots. They are a putrescent mass, a walking vomit. Spineless little worms deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. They are jerks, cads, weasels. Their life is a monument to stupidity. They have all the appeal of a booger. Lepers avoid them. They are vile, worthless, less than nothing. May they choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of their own trite, foolish beliefs. They are deficient in all that lends character. They have the personality of a used condom, dank and filthy.
I cannot believe how incredibly stupid they are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid, so stupid it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. They emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me.
LOL. I posted an LV lock to authenticate on the LV forum, and apparently lovlouisvuiton was too LAZY to authenticate it for me. She insists on telling me to authenticate using a PAID third-party seller. HOW LAZY IS THAT? I'm about to waste money just to see if my lock is real or not. It only takes her 1 minute to authenticate, but I guess she is too lazy. I guess she would rather authenticate the other clearly fake bags that are posted on that topic. Typical.
Have to say I agree to an extent. I have seen how some authenticate and I have watched obvious fakes authenticated as real. I have watched some holier than thou "experts" tell people who have gone to help to basically get stuffed as they aren't an "expert" then go on to authenticate the fake as real... That raises suspicions thats for sure. But if you're ok about assisting in ripping people off, go for it. I have had to shut my mouth while watching some poor girl drop $1500 on a bag that was fake (I knew it was as I have many and have A LOT of experience with the brand) because I was told I have no experience or expertise so get out of their thread...
I definitely wouldn't be using TPF as the sole decider for a purchase. Then again I only buy new so I don't have the problem of buying someones old smelly used (and often fake) bag.
Derauding eBay Buyers
The Purse Forum is defrauding innocent eBay buyers and sellers every day with false "authentications" and by promoting the sales of mirror image fake bags as authentic to naive visitors who think it's a help board. High-end handbag are a huge business on eBay at $1, 000 and up apiece. Because of this financial lure sellers at eBay are having extraordinary issues with what amounts to turf warfare, being waged by the organized assaults from The Purse Forum members.
This internet wolf in sheep's clothing is owned and run with an iron fist by the Eastern-European Dusil, family. TPF members are routinely selling mirror counterfeits on eBay using the method I describe below. TPF has teams of Jr members, trying to work their way onto the protected list, police eBay daily and file report copious reports to eBay falsely claiming the bags other sell are counterfeits. Since sellers who aren't told who reported them most don't even realize what has happened. Once a seller is on eBay's suspected list they can't sell that bag on eBay again. TPF "police" repeat this until sellers are banned from eBay, thus killing their competition. They also avoid eBay fees by diverting sales from eBay via the relationships they make on the TPF site. Once the eBay customer is on TPF site with potential buyers they exchanging contact info via the private messaging and sell off site direct.
Their scam begins with TPF members directing their eBay customers to go the Purse Forum to have the bag "authenticated". This takes the worry out of buying a bag on eBay. Little does the buyer know that the moderators of the site all have lists with members eBay site names. The site requests you link to the pictures for inspection. If the link comes from a seller site on the list and is being sold by one of their own member under TPF's protection, well then it's an automatic thumbs up...100% Authentic! If you're not one of their then it is either questionable of fake.
The Purse Forum is a sham site that empowers it's totally unqualified members with the power to "authenticate" handbags listed on eBay. Their only qualifications for making you an expert "authenticator"? You simply sign up, put your two cent worth in by commenting and you are an expert!Thus the Purse Forum destroys its competition and controls the sales of the expensive bags on eBay, all the while, giving the illusion of saving the seller from counterfeits.
They are effectively proliferating the sales of counterfeits to an unsuspecting buyer unhampered... free to distribute the counterfeits tax-free and without the chance of legal intervention. Remember these women are already victims of peer pressure (who spends $2000 on a bag?) so when numerous experts chime in at once (usually the same person with several user names) that this bag is authentic and so wonderful they are excited, impressed and primed to buy.
This is basically the same methods My Poupette was using before the LV lawsuit against eBay and TPF site. eBay is allowing TPF to sell their mirror counterfeits, abuse and exile their good sellers and eBay is losing many millions per year because of the strong arm tactics of these crafty and experienced professionals in knocking off authentic listings. The scariest part is they seem unable to find any way to control their behavior on their own eBay site!
Please write eBay and ask them to do some reconnaissance work here and learn what I'm talking about to prevent the next lawsuit. LV, and several other companies are already involved in investigating The Purse Forum site.
Contact eBay via the instant help and complaint often if you want to see them banned from eBay. And write to the FBI's internetcrime division ( http://www.ic3.gov/complaint/default.aspx ) and file a complaint.
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
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Aidha imefafanuliwa kwamba umbumbumbu huo umewagubika hata baadhi ya watendaji katika chama hicho ambao pia hukutana na wananchi kama watendaji serikalini.
Hayo yameelezwa na wananchi waliozungumza na gazeti hili kufuatia kauli ya Rais Benjamin Mkapa aliyedai kwamba wapo mbumbumbu wa demokrasia.
Wakiyafafanua maelezo yao hayo, wananchi hao wamesema, kwa mfano, Mwenyekiti wa chama tawala anapotumia kofia yake ya Urais kushinikiza nguvu za dola kuzuia mikutano ya vyama vingine (pinzani) vya siasa husaidia kuwapotosha zaidi wale mbumbumbu wa demokrasia wanaodhani kuwa bado tupo kwenye mfumo wa chama kimoja.
Wamesema pia kwamba kuwepo kwa "demokrasia mbumbumbu" kumechangiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa na wale wanaodhani kuwa kununua kura, kuwahonga wapiga kura, kuiba kura, kutumia vitisho na hata nguvu za dola kupora kura na kukandamiza upinzani ni sehemu ya demokrasia.
Pia wameeleza kwamba wapo miongoni mwa mambumbumbu hao wa demokrasia walijiumbua wakati wa kampeni pale walipopanda kwenye majukwaa "wasijue cha kuzungumza ila kuanza kutumia maneno machafu dhidi ya wake za baadhi ya wagombea ambao hotuba zao zilijaa hoja nzito ambazo mambumbu walishindwa kuzijibu."
"Mambumbumbu wengi pia wamo ndani ya chama tawala. Hawa demokrasia yao ni 'demokrasia mbumbumbu' pia. Kwao mwananchi akijiunga na chama cha upinzani hustahili hata kunyimwa haki zake za msingi za kibinadamu na zile za kiraia. Baadhi ( ya mambumbumbu hao) hudhani kuwa ni halali hata kutumia nguvu za dola kumbughudhi na hata kumtesa mtu na familia yake kwa kumnyima ajira na njia yoyote ya kujitafutia riziki kuwa japo kwa biashara ya genge la nyanya. Ndio maana imekuwa kawaida ya wengi kuwaalika baadhi ya viongozi wa chama tawala kuwasimikia 'vijiwe' na bendera za mashina ili wapate uhalali wa kufungua magenge ya kujipatia riziki", alieleza Mwalimu Shaaban Hadidu.
Mwalimu Hadidu aliongeza kwamba baadhi ya mambumbumbu hao huwa hawaoni haya wala vibaya kuwaambia wananchi tundika bendera usalimike.
Wakizidi kuchambua kina cha umbumbumbu uliopo wananchi hao wamedai wapo pia mambumbumbu waliona sawa tu kutukana dini za baadhi ya wananchi kuwa ni wenye kuhongwa tena ndani ya majumba yao ya Ibada, na wengine wakadiriki hata kuwakodi watu waliojiita "masheikh" ili wapande majukwaa kukashifa dini za watu wanaoonekana kutokipenda chama cha mambumbumbu hao.
Wananchi hai pia walielezea kuwepo kwa umbumbumbu demokrasia upande wa upinzani pia. Wamesema mambumbumbu katika upande huo hudhani demokrasia maana yake kujipendekeza chama tawala ili "wasalimike, " na Msajili wa Vyama asije akataka kuhakiki vyama vyao kama bado vina wanachama, vinafanya mkutano wake kwa mujibu wa katiba na vinafanya uchaguzi wa kidemokrasia wa viongozi wake tangu viundwe miaka 8 iliyopita. "Miongoni mwao hawa wapo pia viongozi wa vyama ambao hawaishi kujipendekeza kwao huko, hufikia hata baadhi yao kutumiwa kama mapandikizi dhidi ya kambi ya upinzani, wanahribu vyama vyetu na sasa wanatufanya wote tuonekane hatuna maana" alilalamika Bw. Furaha Msonga.
Aidha, wananchi hao wamesema lipo pia swala la umoja wa kitaifa ambapo wametahadharisha .vyama vingi visiwe sababu ya kuvunja utaifa.
Hata hivyo wameongeza kutoa tahadhari kwamba watanzania waasitegemee kujenga utaifa huo huku baadhi ya viongozi kwenye chama tawala hawaishi kuwakashifu na kuwakejeli baadhi ya viongozi na wananchama wa vyama vya upinzani.
Wakitolea mfano wa jinsi viongozi wa chama tawla wanavyoweza kufanya kazi na wale wa upinzani kwa msalahi ya taifa, wananchi hao wamemtaja Mzee Nelson Mandela wa Afrika ya Kusini ambapo wamesema watu wa chama tawala wangejifunza toka Afrika Kusini au hata Marekani.
"Mandela alikuwa akifanyakazi na viongozi wa upinzani, na (George) Bush (wa Marekani) pia kaonesha hilo", alieleza mwanchi mmoja aliyejitambulisha kwa jina moja tu la Mgana..
Waislamu watakiwa kuwa watekelezaji wa maamuzi
* Watakiwa kwatambua wale wanaokwamisha utekelezaji ambao ni vibaraka, waoga na wazembe
Na Mwandishi Wetu
WAISLAMU nchini wametakiwa kuyatekeleza yale yaliyoamuliwa na Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) na yakafundishwa kwao na Mtume wake (S.A.W.) kama moja ya ahadi juu yao.
Aidha wametakiwa vilevile kutekeleza na yale ambayo wao huyaamua kwa misingi ya dini yao na kisha wakaaomba dua kwa Mweneyzi Mungu (S.W.) awawafikishie.
Akitoa wito huo, Mhadhiri wa kiislamu jijini Dar es Salaam, Ustaadh Kondo Bungo amewaambia Waislamu kwamba maamrisho ya Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.), mafundisho ya Mtume (S.A.W) na maamuzi wanayoyachukua Waislamu hao na kisha wakayaombea dua kwa Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W) awawafikishie yote hayo ni miongoni mwa ahadi mbele ya Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) ambazo wanayo dhima ya kuzitekeleza.
Ustaadhi Bungo alikuwa akiongea na Waislamu katika Msikiti wa Taqwa, uliopo Mwananyamala, Dar es Salaam, baada ya Swala ya I'sha, Jumapili, Januari 7 mwaka huu.
Akiufafanua msimamo wake huo juu ya suala hilo, Ustaadh Bungo alisema licha ya Waislamu wengi kuwa wanalijua jambo hilo bado kuna tatizo la utekelezaji wa ahadi hizo wanazozichukua na kisha aliwauliza Waislamu: "...nini kiini cha tatizo hili?".
Akifafanua kuhusu kiini cha tatizo hilo la kutotekelezwa ahadi hizo, Ustaadh Bungo alisema kwamba ahadi nyingi zinakwamishwa na watu wa aina tatu miongoni mwa umma wa Waislamu ambao aliwataja kuwa ni vibaraka, waoga na wazembe.
Akiwazungumzia vibaraka alisema: "mtu kibaraka ni (yule) ambaye mko naye msikitini na anapiga takbira kwa wingi lakini kesho utamkuta anajipendekeza kwa kiongozi anayewatukana Waislamu... na yeye ndio wa kwanza kupanga mstari kutoa mkono kwa kiongozi huyo (kama dalili ya salamu ya heshima)"
Ustaadhi Bungo aliendeleza uchambuzi wake ambapo alisema ikitokea Muislamu huyo kibaraka kuwa ni Imam au kiongozi wa Taasasi ya Kiislamu, basi yeye ndio huwa wa kwanza anapokuwa na hafla kuwaalika viongozi wenye kauli chafu dhidi ya Waislamu kuwa wageni rasmi.
Alilitaja kundi la pili kuwa ni Waislamu waoga ambao alisema hao nao ni tatizo. Alisema Waislamu walio katika kundi hilo, kutokana na woga wao, husahau kumhofu Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) na badala yake wakawahofu wanandamu wenzo kutokana na madaraka walionayo na vitisho vyao.
Ustaadhi Bungo aliwatamnabaisha Waislamu kwamba ikitokea mtu huyo mwoga kuwa Imam, sheikh au amir, basi anapotoa hotuba zake huwa anayumbayumba katika mada.
"Siku zote huwa hawasemi kweli watu hawa na wala hawafundishi yanayostahiki kuwa haki... kwa mfano badala ya kufundisha kuindoa dhuluma wao hufundisha kuikwepa", alieleza Ustaadh Bungo.
Akifafanua hoja yake hiyo alisema ikitokea 'grosari' imejengwa mbele ya msikiti, basi imamu au sheikh huyo mwoga hubadili njia badala ya kuwataka waumini "wakaiondoe grosari hiyo", na kisha akauliza: "je katika njia hiyo nyingine pakijengwa baa imam huyo na waumini watapita wapi?"
Akilitaja kundi la tatu Ustaadh Bungo alisema watu wake ni wazembe na akadai kwamba hao ni hatari zaidi.
Alisema wakati wale waoga hutoa visingizio vya "eti wanatumia hekima", waumini wazembe hudai "eti wanasubiri amiri wao aseme!"
Ustaadh Bungo ameeleza kuwa katika Uislamu, suala la kupambana na maovu kwa misingi ya dini hiyo ni amri, na kwamba amri yoyote ni ibada.
Akitolea mfano alisema: "Kuswali ni ibada na pindi wakti (wakati) unapotimu waumini huinuka wakaswali pasi na kumsubiri amir", na kisha akahoji, "sasa iweje suala la kuondoa maovu wasubiri kauli ya amir?"
Amesema, muda wa swala ukifika, waumini, wakiwemo wazembe hao, huinuka kwenda kuswali na wala hawasikiki wakitoa visingizio vyao vya kumsubiri amir, na aashangaa iweje katikia ibada zingine waumini wadai kumsubiri amir.
Ustaadh Bungo aliwataka waumini kuwatambua watu hao watatu wanaokwamisha utekelezaji wa ahadi wanazozichukua Waislamu ili wapate kuwaelimisha na pale inaposhindikana kuelimishwa basi wawaepuke kwa vile alisema watu hao ni kikwazo katika maendeleo ya jamii ya Waislamu.
Aizungumzia umuhimu wa kuwaelimisha, ustaadh huyo aliwakumbusha waumini msiktini hapo kisa cha Nabii Musa (A.S) aliyekimbilia Madiyan baada ya kukabiliwa na tuhuma ya kupiga mtu hadi kufa katika utawala wa Firauni.
Lakini wakati Musa akiwa Madiyan, Ustaadh Bungo alisema Mwenyezi Mungu alimwambia Musa (A.S) aende kwa Furauni "akamlinganie" aache kiburi chake cha kujidai yeye Mungu, kufanya dhuluma, mauaji ya raia na ukandamizaji uliokithiri.
Alisema, Musa (A.S), ambaye awali aliukimbia utawala wa Firauni kwa hofu ya tuhuma zilizokuwa zikimkabili, alilazimika kuishinda nafsi yake iliyokuwa ikimuhofu Firauni ambaye alikuwa ni kiumbe na mwanadamu kama yeye Musa (A.S).
"Musa (A.S) akaacha mara moja kumhofu Firauni na badala yake akazidisha kumhofu Allah (S.W) (hivyo) akaamua kwenda kumkabili Firauni licha ya maguvu yake ya dola na wapambe wake wachawi na washirikina", alifafanua Ustaadh Bungo.
Alisema Musa (A.S) aifanikiwa kumshinda Firauni na kuwakomboa wananchi waliokuwa wakiteseka chini ya utawala huo wa kidhalimu wa Firauni.
Aidha, kuhusu kundi la waislamu wazembe, Ustaadh Bungo aliwakumbusha Waislamu mazingira ya enzi ya Mtume (S.A.W) ambapo alisema katika vita zote zilizopiganwa wakati huo na ambazo zilijulikana kama "Ghazua", waumini baada ya kujua kuwa walikuwa wakipigana kwa amri ya Mola wao na haki ya dini yao, hawakuwa wakizembea kwa kujenga visingizio vya kusubiri amri ya Mtume (S.A.W), bali kila walipoona dhuluma, vita au shari ikielekezwa kwao walipamabna nayo.
"Ama kwa wale vibaraka", alisema Ustaadh Bungo, "hawa ni wa kupigwa vita sambamba na madhalimu wanaowaweka mbele na kuwapa majukwaa ya kuwatusi Waislamu".
'Hajj Trust' yaongeza huduma kwa mahujaji
* Usafiri wa Jeddah-Madina sasa kwa ndege
Na Mwandishi Wetu
Mahujaji wa Tanzania watakaokwenda Hija kuanzia mwaka huu watapatiwa usafiri wa ndege kutoka Jeddah kwenda Madina ili kukwepa uchovu wa safari ndefu ya masaa nane kati ya miji hiyo miwili ambao wangeupata endapo wangetumia usafiri wa basi.
Hayo yalisemwa na Katibu Mkuu wa Taasisi ya Kiislamu inayoshughulikia masuala ya Hija hapa nchini, Tanzania Muslim Hajj Trust, Abdallah M.Jabir, alipokuwa akizungumza na NASAHA kuhusu maandalizi ya Hija ya mwaka huu.
Jabiri amesema kuwa nyongeza hiyo ya huduma ya usafiri wa ndege kwa kutumia ndege ya Shirika la Ndege la Saudi Arabia, Saudi Airlines, haitaathiri huduma nyingine zitolewazo na taasisi yake wala ongezeko la gharama kutoka kwa Mahujaji. Gharama za Hija kwa mwaka huu kama ilivyotangazwa na taasisi yake ni dola za Kimarekani 1600, ikiwa ni ongezeko la dola 100 zaidi kutokana na kupanda kwa gharama za huduma za ndani za serikali nchini Saudi Arabia.
Alizitaja huduma nyingine kwa uchache wazitoazo kwa Mahujaji kuwa ni pamoja na chakula kwa siku zote wawapo katika miji ya Maka, Madina na Mina na huduma ya matabibu wa kiume na wa [censored] wakati wa Hija. Huduma nyingine ni za waongozaji Mahujaji katika miji hiyo mitatu na ziara za maeneo matakatifu ya kihistoria zilizopo Madina.
Aidha alisema matayarisho ya Ibada ya Hija ya mwaka huu yalishaanza toka miezi sita iliyopita ambapo mpaka sasa Waislamu zaidi ya 200 tayari wamejiorodhesha, lengo likiwa ni kusafirisha Mahujaji kati ya 350 na 400.
Akijibu swali la mwandishi kwanini wasitumie ndege za Shirika la Ndege la Yemen ambazo inasamekana bei zake ni nafuu sana, Jabir alisema Hajj Trust hutumia ndege za kukodi za shirika la ndege Tanzania (ATC) ambazo pamoja na kuwa huenda moja kwa moja Jeddah, lakini pia wanajihisi ufahari kama wazalendo kushuka katika uwanja wa ndege wa kigeni wakiwa na ndege yenye alama ya Taifa wanalotoka.
"Sisi ni wazalendo wa Taifa hili, tunasikia ufahari pesa za Watanzania zinapobaki katika mikono ya Watanzania wenyewe badala ya kuzipeleka kwa watu wa nje... Lakini pia ni ufahani kushuka Jeddah tukiwa kwenye ndege yenye nembo ya Taifa letu", alisema Katibu Mkuu hayo wa Hajj Trust.
Hata hivyo, alidai kuwa tofauti kati ya nauli inayotozwa na ndege ya shirika hilo la Yemen na ile inayotozwa katika ndege za ATC ni dola 15 tu, huku safari za ATC zikiwa ni za moja kwa moja na hivyo kupunguza usumbufu kwa Mahujaji kwa kupanda na kushuka wabadilishapo ndege wakiwa njiani.
"Safari hizi za ndege ya Yemen sio kitu kipya, zimeanza toka toka Novemba 1999. Hata sisi huko nyuma tuliwahi kutumia ndege zao kusafirishia waumini waliokwenda (kufanya Ibada ya) Umra, " alisema Jabir.
Ratiba ya safari za Hija kama ilivyooneshwa kwa mwandishi ni kuwa ndege zitaondoka Dar es Salaam kwenda Jeddah Februari 17, 18, 19 na 23, na zile za kurudi zitaanzia Machi 11, mwaka huu.
Mbumbumbu wa demokrasia waliomo katika chama tawala ni hatari zaidi
* Wadai pia demokrasia mbumbumbu
Na Mwandishi Wetu
IMEELEZWA kuwa makuzi hafifu ya demokrasia nchini ya mechangiwa na kuwepo ndani ya chama tawala kwa wananchi ambao ni mbumbumbu wa demokrasia kwa vile bado wanaamini mfumo wa chama kimoja.
Aidha imefafanuliwa kwamba umbumbumbu huo umewagubika hata baadhi ya watendaji katika chama hicho ambao pia hukutana na wananchi kama watendaji serikalini.
Hayo yameelezwa na wananchi waliozungumza na gazeti hili kufuatia kauli ya Rais Benjamin Mkapa aliyedai kwamba wapo mbumbumbu wa demokrasia.
Wakiyafafanua maelezo yao hayo, wananchi hao wamesema, kwa mfano, Mwenyekiti wa chama tawala anapotumia kofia yake ya Urais kushinikiza nguvu za dola kuzuia mikutano ya vyama vingine (pinzani) vya siasa husaidia kuwapotosha zaidi wale mbumbumbu wa demokrasia wanaodhani kuwa bado tupo kwenye mfumo wa chama kimoja.
Wamesema pia kwamba kuwepo kwa "demokrasia mbumbumbu" kumechangiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa na wale wanaodhani kuwa kununua kura, kuwahonga wapiga kura, kuiba kura, kutumia vitisho na hata nguvu za dola kupora kura na kukandamiza upinzani ni sehemu ya demokrasia.
Pia wameeleza kwamba wapo miongoni mwa mambumbumbu hao wa demokrasia walijiumbua wakati wa kampeni pale walipopanda kwenye majukwaa "wasijue cha kuzungumza ila kuanza kutumia maneno machafu dhidi ya wake za baadhi ya wagombea ambao hotuba zao zilijaa hoja nzito ambazo mambumbu walishindwa kuzijibu."
"Mambumbumbu wengi pia wamo ndani ya chama tawala. Hawa demokrasia yao ni 'demokrasia mbumbumbu' pia. Kwao mwananchi akijiunga na chama cha upinzani hustahili hata kunyimwa haki zake za msingi za kibinadamu na zile za kiraia. Baadhi ( ya mambumbumbu hao) hudhani kuwa ni halali hata kutumia nguvu za dola kumbughudhi na hata kumtesa mtu na familia yake kwa kumnyima ajira na njia yoyote ya kujitafutia riziki kuwa japo kwa biashara ya genge la nyanya. Ndio maana imekuwa kawaida ya wengi kuwaalika baadhi ya viongozi wa chama tawala kuwasimikia 'vijiwe' na bendera za mashina ili wapate uhalali wa kufungua magenge ya kujipatia riziki", alieleza Mwalimu Shaaban Hadidu.
Mwalimu Hadidu aliongeza kwamba baadhi ya mambumbumbu hao huwa hawaoni haya wala vibaya kuwaambia wananchi tundika bendera usalimike.
Wakizidi kuchambua kina cha umbumbumbu uliopo wananchi hao wamedai wapo pia mambumbumbu waliona sawa tu kutukana dini za baadhi ya wananchi kuwa ni wenye kuhongwa tena ndani ya majumba yao ya Ibada, na wengine wakadiriki hata kuwakodi watu waliojiita "masheikh" ili wapande majukwaa kukashifa dini za watu wanaoonekana kutokipenda chama cha mambumbumbu hao.
Wananchi hai pia walielezea kuwepo kwa umbumbumbu demokrasia upande wa upinzani pia. Wamesema mambumbumbu katika upande huo hudhani demokrasia maana yake kujipendekeza chama tawala ili "wasalimike, " na Msajili wa Vyama asije akataka kuhakiki vyama vyao kama bado vina wanachama, vinafanya mkutano wake kwa mujibu wa katiba na vinafanya uchaguzi wa kidemokrasia wa viongozi wake tangu viundwe miaka 8 iliyopita. "Miongoni mwao hawa wapo pia viongozi wa vyama ambao hawaishi kujipendekeza kwao huko, hufikia hata baadhi yao kutumiwa kama mapandikizi dhidi ya kambi ya upinzani, wanahribu vyama vyetu na sasa wanatufanya wote tuonekane hatuna maana" alilalamika Bw. Furaha Msonga.
Aidha, wananchi hao wamesema lipo pia swala la umoja wa kitaifa ambapo wametahadharisha .vyama vingi visiwe sababu ya kuvunja utaifa.
Hata hivyo wameongeza kutoa tahadhari kwamba watanzania waasitegemee kujenga utaifa huo huku baadhi ya viongozi kwenye chama tawala hawaishi kuwakashifu na kuwakejeli baadhi ya viongozi na wananchama wa vyama vya upinzani.
Wakitolea mfano wa jinsi viongozi wa chama tawla wanavyoweza kufanya kazi na wale wa upinzani kwa msalahi ya taifa, wananchi hao wamemtaja Mzee Nelson Mandela wa Afrika ya Kusini ambapo wamesema watu wa chama tawala wangejifunza toka Afrika Kusini au hata Marekani.
"Mandela alikuwa akifanyakazi na viongozi wa upinzani, na (George) Bush (wa Marekani) pia kaonesha hilo", alieleza mwanchi mmoja aliyejitambulisha kwa jina moja tu la Mgana..
Waislamu watakiwa kuwa watekelezaji wa maamuzi
* Watakiwa kwatambua wale wanaokwamisha utekelezaji ambao ni vibaraka, waoga na wazembe
Na Mwandishi Wetu
WAISLAMU nchini wametakiwa kuyatekeleza yale yaliyoamuliwa na Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) na yakafundishwa kwao na Mtume wake (S.A.W.) kama moja ya ahadi juu yao.
Aidha wametakiwa vilevile kutekeleza na yale ambayo wao huyaamua kwa misingi ya dini yao na kisha wakaaomba dua kwa Mweneyzi Mungu (S.W.) awawafikishie.
Akitoa wito huo, Mhadhiri wa kiislamu jijini Dar es Salaam, Ustaadh Kondo Bungo amewaambia Waislamu kwamba maamrisho ya Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.), mafundisho ya Mtume (S.A.W) na maamuzi wanayoyachukua Waislamu hao na kisha wakayaombea dua kwa Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W) awawafikishie yote hayo ni miongoni mwa ahadi mbele ya Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) ambazo wanayo dhima ya kuzitekeleza.
Ustaadhi Bungo alikuwa akiongea na Waislamu katika Msikiti wa Taqwa, uliopo Mwananyamala, Dar es Salaam, baada ya Swala ya I'sha, Jumapili, Januari 7 mwaka huu.
Akiufafanua msimamo wake huo juu ya suala hilo, Ustaadh Bungo alisema licha ya Waislamu wengi kuwa wanalijua jambo hilo bado kuna tatizo la utekelezaji wa ahadi hizo wanazozichukua na kisha aliwauliza Waislamu: "...nini kiini cha tatizo hili?".
Akifafanua kuhusu kiini cha tatizo hilo la kutotekelezwa ahadi hizo, Ustaadh Bungo alisema kwamba ahadi nyingi zinakwamishwa na watu wa aina tatu miongoni mwa umma wa Waislamu ambao aliwataja kuwa ni vibaraka, waoga na wazembe.
Akiwazungumzia vibaraka alisema: "mtu kibaraka ni (yule) ambaye mko naye msikitini na anapiga takbira kwa wingi lakini kesho utamkuta anajipendekeza kwa kiongozi anayewatukana Waislamu... na yeye ndio wa kwanza kupanga mstari kutoa mkono kwa kiongozi huyo (kama dalili ya salamu ya heshima)"
Ustaadhi Bungo aliendeleza uchambuzi wake ambapo alisema ikitokea Muislamu huyo kibaraka kuwa ni Imam au kiongozi wa Taasasi ya Kiislamu, basi yeye ndio huwa wa kwanza anapokuwa na hafla kuwaalika viongozi wenye kauli chafu dhidi ya Waislamu kuwa wageni rasmi.
Alilitaja kundi la pili kuwa ni Waislamu waoga ambao alisema hao nao ni tatizo. Alisema Waislamu walio katika kundi hilo, kutokana na woga wao, husahau kumhofu Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) na badala yake wakawahofu wanandamu wenzo kutokana na madaraka walionayo na vitisho vyao.
Ustaadhi Bungo aliwatamnabaisha Waislamu kwamba ikitokea mtu huyo mwoga kuwa Imam, sheikh au amir, basi anapotoa hotuba zake huwa anayumbayumba katika mada.
"Siku zote huwa hawasemi kweli watu hawa na wala hawafundishi yanayostahiki kuwa haki... kwa mfano badala ya kufundisha kuindoa dhuluma wao hufundisha kuikwepa", alieleza Ustaadh Bungo.
Akifafanua hoja yake hiyo alisema ikitokea 'grosari' imejengwa mbele ya msikiti, basi imamu au sheikh huyo mwoga hubadili njia badala ya kuwataka waumini "wakaiondoe grosari hiyo", na kisha akauliza: "je katika njia hiyo nyingine pakijengwa baa imam huyo na waumini watapita wapi?"
Akilitaja kundi la tatu Ustaadh Bungo alisema watu wake ni wazembe na akadai kwamba hao ni hatari zaidi.
Alisema wakati wale waoga hutoa visingizio vya "eti wanatumia hekima", waumini wazembe hudai "eti wanasubiri amiri wao aseme!"
Ustaadh Bungo ameeleza kuwa katika Uislamu, suala la kupambana na maovu kwa misingi ya dini hiyo ni amri, na kwamba amri yoyote ni ibada.
Akitolea mfano alisema: "Kuswali ni ibada na pindi wakti (wakati) unapotimu waumini huinuka wakaswali pasi na kumsubiri amir", na kisha akahoji, "sasa iweje suala la kuondoa maovu wasubiri kauli ya amir?"
Amesema, muda wa swala ukifika, waumini, wakiwemo wazembe hao, huinuka kwenda kuswali na wala hawasikiki wakitoa visingizio vyao vya kumsubiri amir, na aashangaa iweje katikia ibada zingine waumini wadai kumsubiri amir.
Ustaadh Bungo aliwataka waumini kuwatambua watu hao watatu wanaokwamisha utekelezaji wa ahadi wanazozichukua Waislamu ili wapate kuwaelimisha na pale inaposhindikana kuelimishwa basi wawaepuke kwa vile alisema watu hao ni kikwazo katika maendeleo ya jamii ya Waislamu.
Aizungumzia umuhimu wa kuwaelimisha, ustaadh huyo aliwakumbusha waumini msiktini hapo kisa cha Nabii Musa (A.S) aliyekimbilia Madiyan baada ya kukabiliwa na tuhuma ya kupiga mtu hadi kufa katika utawala wa Firauni.
Lakini wakati Musa akiwa Madiyan, Ustaadh Bungo alisema Mwenyezi Mungu alimwambia Musa (A.S) aende kwa Furauni "akamlinganie" aache kiburi chake cha kujidai yeye Mungu, kufanya dhuluma, mauaji ya raia na ukandamizaji uliokithiri.
Alisema, Musa (A.S), ambaye awali aliukimbia utawala wa Firauni kwa hofu ya tuhuma zilizokuwa zikimkabili, alilazimika kuishinda nafsi yake iliyokuwa ikimuhofu Firauni ambaye alikuwa ni kiumbe na mwanadamu kama yeye Musa (A.S).
"Musa (A.S) akaacha mara moja kumhofu Firauni na badala yake akazidisha kumhofu Allah (S.W) (hivyo) akaamua kwenda kumkabili Firauni licha ya maguvu yake ya dola na wapambe wake wachawi na washirikina", alifafanua Ustaadh Bungo.
Alisema Musa (A.S) aifanikiwa kumshinda Firauni na kuwakomboa wananchi waliokuwa wakiteseka chini ya utawala huo wa kidhalimu wa Firauni.
Aidha, kuhusu kundi la waislamu wazembe, Ustaadh Bungo aliwakumbusha Waislamu mazingira ya enzi ya Mtume (S.A.W) ambapo alisema katika vita zote zilizopiganwa wakati huo na ambazo zilijulikana kama "Ghazua", waumini baada ya kujua kuwa walikuwa wakipigana kwa amri ya Mola wao na haki ya dini yao, hawakuwa wakizembea kwa kujenga visingizio vya kusubiri amri ya Mtume (S.A.W), bali kila walipoona dhuluma, vita au shari ikielekezwa kwao walipamabna nayo.
"Ama kwa wale vibaraka", alisema Ustaadh Bungo, "hawa ni wa kupigwa vita sambamba na madhalimu wanaowaweka mbele na kuwapa majukwaa ya kuwatusi Waislamu".
'Hajj Trust' yaongeza huduma kwa mahujaji
* Usafiri wa Jeddah-Madina sasa kwa ndege
Na Mwandishi Wetu
Mahujaji wa Tanzania watakaokwenda Hija kuanzia mwaka huu watapatiwa usafiri wa ndege kutoka Jeddah kwenda Madina ili kukwepa uchovu wa safari ndefu ya masaa nane kati ya miji hiyo miwili ambao wangeupata endapo wangetumia usafiri wa basi.
Hayo yalisemwa na Katibu Mkuu wa Taasisi ya Kiislamu inayoshughulikia masuala ya Hija hapa nchini, Tanzania Muslim Hajj Trust, Abdallah M.Jabir, alipokuwa akizungumza na NASAHA kuhusu maandalizi ya Hija ya mwaka huu.
Jabiri amesema kuwa nyongeza hiyo ya huduma ya usafiri wa ndege kwa kutumia ndege ya Shirika la Ndege la Saudi Arabia, Saudi Airlines, haitaathiri huduma nyingine zitolewazo na taasisi yake wala ongezeko la gharama kutoka kwa Mahujaji. Gharama za Hija kwa mwaka huu kama ilivyotangazwa na taasisi yake ni dola za Kimarekani 1600, ikiwa ni ongezeko la dola 100 zaidi kutokana na kupanda kwa gharama za huduma za ndani za serikali nchini Saudi Arabia.
Alizitaja huduma nyingine kwa uchache wazitoazo kwa Mahujaji kuwa ni pamoja na chakula kwa siku zote wawapo katika miji ya Maka, Madina na Mina na huduma ya matabibu wa kiume na wa [censored] wakati wa Hija. Huduma nyingine ni za waongozaji Mahujaji katika miji hiyo mitatu na ziara za maeneo matakatifu ya kihistoria zilizopo Madina.
Aidha alisema matayarisho ya Ibada ya Hija ya mwaka huu yalishaanza toka miezi sita iliyopita ambapo mpaka sasa Waislamu zaidi ya 200 tayari wamejiorodhesha, lengo likiwa ni kusafirisha Mahujaji kati ya 350 na 400.
Akijibu swali la mwandishi kwanini wasitumie ndege za Shirika la Ndege la Yemen ambazo inasamekana bei zake ni nafuu sana, Jabir alisema Hajj Trust hutumia ndege za kukodi za shirika la ndege Tanzania (ATC) ambazo pamoja na kuwa huenda moja kwa moja Jeddah, lakini pia wanajihisi ufahari kama wazalendo kushuka katika uwanja wa ndege wa kigeni wakiwa na ndege yenye alama ya Taifa wanalotoka.
"Sisi ni wazalendo wa Taifa hili, tunasikia ufahari pesa za Watanzania zinapobaki katika mikono ya Watanzania wenyewe badala ya kuzipeleka kwa watu wa nje... Lakini pia ni ufahani kushuka Jeddah tukiwa kwenye ndege yenye nembo ya Taifa letu", alisema Katibu Mkuu hayo wa Hajj Trust.
Hata hivyo, alidai kuwa tofauti kati ya nauli inayotozwa na ndege ya shirika hilo la Yemen na ile inayotozwa katika ndege za ATC ni dola 15 tu, huku safari za ATC zikiwa ni za moja kwa moja na hivyo kupunguza usumbufu kwa Mahujaji kwa kupanda na kushuka wabadilishapo ndege wakiwa njiani.
"Safari hizi za ndege ya Yemen sio kitu kipya, zimeanza toka toka Novemba 1999. Hata sisi huko nyuma tuliwahi kutumia ndege zao kusafirishia waumini waliokwenda (kufanya Ibada ya) Umra, " alisema Jabir.
Ratiba ya safari za Hija kama ilivyooneshwa kwa mwandishi ni kuwa ndege zitaondoka Dar es Salaam kwenda Jeddah Februari 17, 18, 19 na 23, na zile za kurudi zitaanzia Machi 11, mwaka huu.
Mbumbumbu wa demokrasia waliomo katika chama tawala ni hatari zaidi
* Wadai pia demokrasia mbumbumbu
Na Mwandishi Wetu
IMEELEZWA kuwa makuzi hafifu ya demokrasia nchini ya mechangiwa na kuwepo ndani ya chama tawala kwa wananchi ambao ni mbumbumbu wa demokrasia kwa vile bado wanaamini mfumo wa chama kimoja.
Aidha imefafanuliwa kwamba umbumbumbu huo umewagubika hata baadhi ya watendaji katika chama hicho ambao pia hukutana na wananchi kama watendaji serikalini.
Hayo yameelezwa na wananchi waliozungumza na gazeti hili kufuatia kauli ya Rais Benjamin Mkapa aliyedai kwamba wapo mbumbumbu wa demokrasia.
Wakiyafafanua maelezo yao hayo, wananchi hao wamesema, kwa mfano, Mwenyekiti wa chama tawala anapotumia kofia yake ya Urais kushinikiza nguvu za dola kuzuia mikutano ya vyama vingine (pinzani) vya siasa husaidia kuwapotosha zaidi wale mbumbumbu wa demokrasia wanaodhani kuwa bado tupo kwenye mfumo wa chama kimoja.
Wamesema pia kwamba kuwepo kwa "demokrasia mbumbumbu" kumechangiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa na wale wanaodhani kuwa kununua kura, kuwahonga wapiga kura, kuiba kura, kutumia vitisho na hata nguvu za dola kupora kura na kukandamiza upinzani ni sehemu ya demokrasia.
Pia wameeleza kwamba wapo miongoni mwa mambumbumbu hao wa demokrasia walijiumbua wakati wa kampeni pale walipopanda kwenye majukwaa "wasijue cha kuzungumza ila kuanza kutumia maneno machafu dhidi ya wake za baadhi ya wagombea ambao hotuba zao zilijaa hoja nzito ambazo mambumbu walishindwa kuzijibu."
"Mambumbumbu wengi pia wamo ndani ya chama tawala. Hawa demokrasia yao ni 'demokrasia mbumbumbu' pia. Kwao mwananchi akijiunga na chama cha upinzani hustahili hata kunyimwa haki zake za msingi za kibinadamu na zile za kiraia. Baadhi ( ya mambumbumbu hao) hudhani kuwa ni halali hata kutumia nguvu za dola kumbughudhi na hata kumtesa mtu na familia yake kwa kumnyima ajira na njia yoyote ya kujitafutia riziki kuwa japo kwa biashara ya genge la nyanya. Ndio maana imekuwa kawaida ya wengi kuwaalika baadhi ya viongozi wa chama tawala kuwasimikia 'vijiwe' na bendera za mashina ili wapate uhalali wa kufungua magenge ya kujipatia riziki", alieleza Mwalimu Shaaban Hadidu.
Mwalimu Hadidu aliongeza kwamba baadhi ya mambumbumbu hao huwa hawaoni haya wala vibaya kuwaambia wananchi tundika bendera usalimike.
Wakizidi kuchambua kina cha umbumbumbu uliopo wananchi hao wamedai wapo pia mambumbumbu waliona sawa tu kutukana dini za baadhi ya wananchi kuwa ni wenye kuhongwa tena ndani ya majumba yao ya Ibada, na wengine wakadiriki hata kuwakodi watu waliojiita "masheikh" ili wapande majukwaa kukashifa dini za watu wanaoonekana kutokipenda chama cha mambumbumbu hao.
Wananchi hai pia walielezea kuwepo kwa umbumbumbu demokrasia upande wa upinzani pia. Wamesema mambumbumbu katika upande huo hudhani demokrasia maana yake kujipendekeza chama tawala ili "wasalimike, " na Msajili wa Vyama asije akataka kuhakiki vyama vyao kama bado vina wanachama, vinafanya mkutano wake kwa mujibu wa katiba na vinafanya uchaguzi wa kidemokrasia wa viongozi wake tangu viundwe miaka 8 iliyopita. "Miongoni mwao hawa wapo pia viongozi wa vyama ambao hawaishi kujipendekeza kwao huko, hufikia hata baadhi yao kutumiwa kama mapandikizi dhidi ya kambi ya upinzani, wanahribu vyama vyetu na sasa wanatufanya wote tuonekane hatuna maana" alilalamika Bw. Furaha Msonga.
Aidha, wananchi hao wamesema lipo pia swala la umoja wa kitaifa ambapo wametahadharisha .vyama vingi visiwe sababu ya kuvunja utaifa.
Hata hivyo wameongeza kutoa tahadhari kwamba watanzania waasitegemee kujenga utaifa huo huku baadhi ya viongozi kwenye chama tawala hawaishi kuwakashifu na kuwakejeli baadhi ya viongozi na wananchama wa vyama vya upinzani.
Wakitolea mfano wa jinsi viongozi wa chama tawla wanavyoweza kufanya kazi na wale wa upinzani kwa msalahi ya taifa, wananchi hao wamemtaja Mzee Nelson Mandela wa Afrika ya Kusini ambapo wamesema watu wa chama tawala wangejifunza toka Afrika Kusini au hata Marekani.
"Mandela alikuwa akifanyakazi na viongozi wa upinzani, na (George) Bush (wa Marekani) pia kaonesha hilo", alieleza mwanchi mmoja aliyejitambulisha kwa jina moja tu la Mgana..
Waislamu watakiwa kuwa watekelezaji wa maamuzi
* Watakiwa kwatambua wale wanaokwamisha utekelezaji ambao ni vibaraka, waoga na wazembe
Na Mwandishi Wetu
WAISLAMU nchini wametakiwa kuyatekeleza yale yaliyoamuliwa na Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) na yakafundishwa kwao na Mtume wake (S.A.W.) kama moja ya ahadi juu yao.
Aidha wametakiwa vilevile kutekeleza na yale ambayo wao huyaamua kwa misingi ya dini yao na kisha wakaaomba dua kwa Mweneyzi Mungu (S.W.) awawafikishie.
Akitoa wito huo, Mhadhiri wa kiislamu jijini Dar es Salaam, Ustaadh Kondo Bungo amewaambia Waislamu kwamba maamrisho ya Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.), mafundisho ya Mtume (S.A.W) na maamuzi wanayoyachukua Waislamu hao na kisha wakayaombea dua kwa Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W) awawafikishie yote hayo ni miongoni mwa ahadi mbele ya Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) ambazo wanayo dhima ya kuzitekeleza.
Ustaadhi Bungo alikuwa akiongea na Waislamu katika Msikiti wa Taqwa, uliopo Mwananyamala, Dar es Salaam, baada ya Swala ya I'sha, Jumapili, Januari 7 mwaka huu.
Akiufafanua msimamo wake huo juu ya suala hilo, Ustaadh Bungo alisema licha ya Waislamu wengi kuwa wanalijua jambo hilo bado kuna tatizo la utekelezaji wa ahadi hizo wanazozichukua na kisha aliwauliza Waislamu: "...nini kiini cha tatizo hili?".
Akifafanua kuhusu kiini cha tatizo hilo la kutotekelezwa ahadi hizo, Ustaadh Bungo alisema kwamba ahadi nyingi zinakwamishwa na watu wa aina tatu miongoni mwa umma wa Waislamu ambao aliwataja kuwa ni vibaraka, waoga na wazembe.
Akiwazungumzia vibaraka alisema: "mtu kibaraka ni (yule) ambaye mko naye msikitini na anapiga takbira kwa wingi lakini kesho utamkuta anajipendekeza kwa kiongozi anayewatukana Waislamu... na yeye ndio wa kwanza kupanga mstari kutoa mkono kwa kiongozi huyo (kama dalili ya salamu ya heshima)"
Ustaadhi Bungo aliendeleza uchambuzi wake ambapo alisema ikitokea Muislamu huyo kibaraka kuwa ni Imam au kiongozi wa Taasasi ya Kiislamu, basi yeye ndio huwa wa kwanza anapokuwa na hafla kuwaalika viongozi wenye kauli chafu dhidi ya Waislamu kuwa wageni rasmi.
Alilitaja kundi la pili kuwa ni Waislamu waoga ambao alisema hao nao ni tatizo. Alisema Waislamu walio katika kundi hilo, kutokana na woga wao, husahau kumhofu Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) na badala yake wakawahofu wanandamu wenzo kutokana na madaraka walionayo na vitisho vyao.
Ustaadhi Bungo aliwatamnabaisha Waislamu kwamba ikitokea mtu huyo mwoga kuwa Imam, sheikh au amir, basi anapotoa hotuba zake huwa anayumbayumba katika mada.
"Siku zote huwa hawasemi kweli watu hawa na wala hawafundishi yanayostahiki kuwa haki... kwa mfano badala ya kufundisha kuindoa dhuluma wao hufundisha kuikwepa", alieleza Ustaadh Bungo.
Akifafanua hoja yake hiyo alisema ikitokea 'grosari' imejengwa mbele ya msikiti, basi imamu au sheikh huyo mwoga hubadili njia badala ya kuwataka waumini "wakaiondoe grosari hiyo", na kisha akauliza: "je katika njia hiyo nyingine pakijengwa baa imam huyo na waumini watapita wapi?"
Akilitaja kundi la tatu Ustaadh Bungo alisema watu wake ni wazembe na akadai kwamba hao ni hatari zaidi.
Alisema wakati wale waoga hutoa visingizio vya "eti wanatumia hekima", waumini wazembe hudai "eti wanasubiri amiri wao aseme!"
Ustaadh Bungo ameeleza kuwa katika Uislamu, suala la kupambana na maovu kwa misingi ya dini hiyo ni amri, na kwamba amri yoyote ni ibada.
Akitolea mfano alisema: "Kuswali ni ibada na pindi wakti (wakati) unapotimu waumini huinuka wakaswali pasi na kumsubiri amir", na kisha akahoji, "sasa iweje suala la kuondoa maovu wasubiri kauli ya amir?"
Amesema, muda wa swala ukifika, waumini, wakiwemo wazembe hao, huinuka kwenda kuswali na wala hawasikiki wakitoa visingizio vyao vya kumsubiri amir, na aashangaa iweje katikia ibada zingine waumini wadai kumsubiri amir.
Ustaadh Bungo aliwataka waumini kuwatambua watu hao watatu wanaokwamisha utekelezaji wa ahadi wanazozichukua Waislamu ili wapate kuwaelimisha na pale inaposhindikana kuelimishwa basi wawaepuke kwa vile alisema watu hao ni kikwazo katika maendeleo ya jamii ya Waislamu.
Aizungumzia umuhimu wa kuwaelimisha, ustaadh huyo aliwakumbusha waumini msiktini hapo kisa cha Nabii Musa (A.S) aliyekimbilia Madiyan baada ya kukabiliwa na tuhuma ya kupiga mtu hadi kufa katika utawala wa Firauni.
Lakini wakati Musa akiwa Madiyan, Ustaadh Bungo alisema Mwenyezi Mungu alimwambia Musa (A.S) aende kwa Furauni "akamlinganie" aache kiburi chake cha kujidai yeye Mungu, kufanya dhuluma, mauaji ya raia na ukandamizaji uliokithiri.
Alisema, Musa (A.S), ambaye awali aliukimbia utawala wa Firauni kwa hofu ya tuhuma zilizokuwa zikimkabili, alilazimika kuishinda nafsi yake iliyokuwa ikimuhofu Firauni ambaye alikuwa ni kiumbe na mwanadamu kama yeye Musa (A.S).
"Musa (A.S) akaacha mara moja kumhofu Firauni na badala yake akazidisha kumhofu Allah (S.W) (hivyo) akaamua kwenda kumkabili Firauni licha ya maguvu yake ya dola na wapambe wake wachawi na washirikina", alifafanua Ustaadh Bungo.
Alisema Musa (A.S) aifanikiwa kumshinda Firauni na kuwakomboa wananchi waliokuwa wakiteseka chini ya utawala huo wa kidhalimu wa Firauni.
Aidha, kuhusu kundi la waislamu wazembe, Ustaadh Bungo aliwakumbusha Waislamu mazingira ya enzi ya Mtume (S.A.W) ambapo alisema katika vita zote zilizopiganwa wakati huo na ambazo zilijulikana kama "Ghazua", waumini baada ya kujua kuwa walikuwa wakipigana kwa amri ya Mola wao na haki ya dini yao, hawakuwa wakizembea kwa kujenga visingizio vya kusubiri amri ya Mtume (S.A.W), bali kila walipoona dhuluma, vita au shari ikielekezwa kwao walipamabna nayo.
"Ama kwa wale vibaraka", alisema Ustaadh Bungo, "hawa ni wa kupigwa vita sambamba na madhalimu wanaowaweka mbele na kuwapa majukwaa ya kuwatusi Waislamu".
'Hajj Trust' yaongeza huduma kwa mahujaji
* Usafiri wa Jeddah-Madina sasa kwa ndege
Na Mwandishi Wetu
Mahujaji wa Tanzania watakaokwenda Hija kuanzia mwaka huu watapatiwa usafiri wa ndege kutoka Jeddah kwenda Madina ili kukwepa uchovu wa safari ndefu ya masaa nane kati ya miji hiyo miwili ambao wangeupata endapo wangetumia usafiri wa basi.
Hayo yalisemwa na Katibu Mkuu wa Taasisi ya Kiislamu inayoshughulikia masuala ya Hija hapa nchini, Tanzania Muslim Hajj Trust, Abdallah M.Jabir, alipokuwa akizungumza na NASAHA kuhusu maandalizi ya Hija ya mwaka huu.
Jabiri amesema kuwa nyongeza hiyo ya huduma ya usafiri wa ndege kwa kutumia ndege ya Shirika la Ndege la Saudi Arabia, Saudi Airlines, haitaathiri huduma nyingine zitolewazo na taasisi yake wala ongezeko la gharama kutoka kwa Mahujaji. Gharama za Hija kwa mwaka huu kama ilivyotangazwa na taasisi yake ni dola za Kimarekani 1600, ikiwa ni ongezeko la dola 100 zaidi kutokana na kupanda kwa gharama za huduma za ndani za serikali nchini Saudi Arabia.
Alizitaja huduma nyingine kwa uchache wazitoazo kwa Mahujaji kuwa ni pamoja na chakula kwa siku zote wawapo katika miji ya Maka, Madina na Mina na huduma ya matabibu wa kiume na wa [censored] wakati wa Hija. Huduma nyingine ni za waongozaji Mahujaji katika miji hiyo mitatu na ziara za maeneo matakatifu ya kihistoria zilizopo Madina.
Aidha alisema matayarisho ya Ibada ya Hija ya mwaka huu yalishaanza toka miezi sita iliyopita ambapo mpaka sasa Waislamu zaidi ya 200 tayari wamejiorodhesha, lengo likiwa ni kusafirisha Mahujaji kati ya 350 na 400.
Akijibu swali la mwandishi kwanini wasitumie ndege za Shirika la Ndege la Yemen ambazo inasamekana bei zake ni nafuu sana, Jabir alisema Hajj Trust hutumia ndege za kukodi za shirika la ndege Tanzania (ATC) ambazo pamoja na kuwa huenda moja kwa moja Jeddah, lakini pia wanajihisi ufahari kama wazalendo kushuka katika uwanja wa ndege wa kigeni wakiwa na ndege yenye alama ya Taifa wanalotoka.
"Sisi ni wazalendo wa Taifa hili, tunasikia ufahari pesa za Watanzania zinapobaki katika mikono ya Watanzania wenyewe badala ya kuzipeleka kwa watu wa nje... Lakini pia ni ufahani kushuka Jeddah tukiwa kwenye ndege yenye nembo ya Taifa letu", alisema Katibu Mkuu hayo wa Hajj Trust.
Hata hivyo, alidai kuwa tofauti kati ya nauli inayotozwa na ndege ya shirika hilo la Yemen na ile inayotozwa katika ndege za ATC ni dola 15 tu, huku safari za ATC zikiwa ni za moja kwa moja na hivyo kupunguza usumbufu kwa Mahujaji kwa kupanda na kushuka wabadilishapo ndege wakiwa njiani.
"Safari hizi za ndege ya Yemen sio kitu kipya, zimeanza toka toka Novemba 1999. Hata sisi huko nyuma tuliwahi kutumia ndege zao kusafirishia waumini waliokwenda (kufanya Ibada ya) Umra, " alisema Jabir.
Ratiba ya safari za Hija kama ilivyooneshwa kwa mwandishi ni kuwa ndege zitaondoka Dar es Salaam kwenda Jeddah Februari 17, 18, 19 na 23, na zile za kurudi zitaanzia Machi 11, mwaka huu.
Mbumbumbu wa demokrasia waliomo katika chama tawala ni hatari zaidi
* Wadai pia demokrasia mbumbumbu
Na Mwandishi Wetu
IMEELEZWA kuwa makuzi hafifu ya demokrasia nchini ya mechangiwa na kuwepo ndani ya chama tawala kwa wananchi ambao ni mbumbumbu wa demokrasia kwa vile bado wanaamini mfumo wa chama kimoja.
Aidha imefafanuliwa kwamba umbumbumbu huo umewagubika hata baadhi ya watendaji katika chama hicho ambao pia hukutana na wananchi kama watendaji serikalini.
Hayo yameelezwa na wananchi waliozungumza na gazeti hili kufuatia kauli ya Rais Benjamin Mkapa aliyedai kwamba wapo mbumbumbu wa demokrasia.
Wakiyafafanua maelezo yao hayo, wananchi hao wamesema, kwa mfano, Mwenyekiti wa chama tawala anapotumia kofia yake ya Urais kushinikiza nguvu za dola kuzuia mikutano ya vyama vingine (pinzani) vya siasa husaidia kuwapotosha zaidi wale mbumbumbu wa demokrasia wanaodhani kuwa bado tupo kwenye mfumo wa chama kimoja.
Wamesema pia kwamba kuwepo kwa "demokrasia mbumbumbu" kumechangiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa na wale wanaodhani kuwa kununua kura, kuwahonga wapiga kura, kuiba kura, kutumia vitisho na hata nguvu za dola kupora kura na kukandamiza upinzani ni sehemu ya demokrasia.
Pia wameeleza kwamba wapo miongoni mwa mambumbumbu hao wa demokrasia walijiumbua wakati wa kampeni pale walipopanda kwenye majukwaa "wasijue cha kuzungumza ila kuanza kutumia maneno machafu dhidi ya wake za baadhi ya wagombea ambao hotuba zao zilijaa hoja nzito ambazo mambumbu walishindwa kuzijibu."
"Mambumbumbu wengi pia wamo ndani ya chama tawala. Hawa demokrasia yao ni 'demokrasia mbumbumbu' pia. Kwao mwananchi akijiunga na chama cha upinzani hustahili hata kunyimwa haki zake za msingi za kibinadamu na zile za kiraia. Baadhi ( ya mambumbumbu hao) hudhani kuwa ni halali hata kutumia nguvu za dola kumbughudhi na hata kumtesa mtu na familia yake kwa kumnyima ajira na njia yoyote ya kujitafutia riziki kuwa japo kwa biashara ya genge la nyanya. Ndio maana imekuwa kawaida ya wengi kuwaalika baadhi ya viongozi wa chama tawala kuwasimikia 'vijiwe' na bendera za mashina ili wapate uhalali wa kufungua magenge ya kujipatia riziki", alieleza Mwalimu Shaaban Hadidu.
Mwalimu Hadidu aliongeza kwamba baadhi ya mambumbumbu hao huwa hawaoni haya wala vibaya kuwaambia wananchi tundika bendera usalimike.
Wakizidi kuchambua kina cha umbumbumbu uliopo wananchi hao wamedai wapo pia mambumbumbu waliona sawa tu kutukana dini za baadhi ya wananchi kuwa ni wenye kuhongwa tena ndani ya majumba yao ya Ibada, na wengine wakadiriki hata kuwakodi watu waliojiita "masheikh" ili wapande majukwaa kukashifa dini za watu wanaoonekana kutokipenda chama cha mambumbumbu hao.
Wananchi hai pia walielezea kuwepo kwa umbumbumbu demokrasia upande wa upinzani pia. Wamesema mambumbumbu katika upande huo hudhani demokrasia maana yake kujipendekeza chama tawala ili "wasalimike, " na Msajili wa Vyama asije akataka kuhakiki vyama vyao kama bado vina wanachama, vinafanya mkutano wake kwa mujibu wa katiba na vinafanya uchaguzi wa kidemokrasia wa viongozi wake tangu viundwe miaka 8 iliyopita. "Miongoni mwao hawa wapo pia viongozi wa vyama ambao hawaishi kujipendekeza kwao huko, hufikia hata baadhi yao kutumiwa kama mapandikizi dhidi ya kambi ya upinzani, wanahribu vyama vyetu na sasa wanatufanya wote tuonekane hatuna maana" alilalamika Bw. Furaha Msonga.
Aidha, wananchi hao wamesema lipo pia swala la umoja wa kitaifa ambapo wametahadharisha .vyama vingi visiwe sababu ya kuvunja utaifa.
Hata hivyo wameongeza kutoa tahadhari kwamba watanzania waasitegemee kujenga utaifa huo huku baadhi ya viongozi kwenye chama tawala hawaishi kuwakashifu na kuwakejeli baadhi ya viongozi na wananchama wa vyama vya upinzani.
Wakitolea mfano wa jinsi viongozi wa chama tawla wanavyoweza kufanya kazi na wale wa upinzani kwa msalahi ya taifa, wananchi hao wamemtaja Mzee Nelson Mandela wa Afrika ya Kusini ambapo wamesema watu wa chama tawala wangejifunza toka Afrika Kusini au hata Marekani.
"Mandela alikuwa akifanyakazi na viongozi wa upinzani, na (George) Bush (wa Marekani) pia kaonesha hilo", alieleza mwanchi mmoja aliyejitambulisha kwa jina moja tu la Mgana..
Waislamu watakiwa kuwa watekelezaji wa maamuzi
* Watakiwa kwatambua wale wanaokwamisha utekelezaji ambao ni vibaraka, waoga na wazembe
Na Mwandishi Wetu
WAISLAMU nchini wametakiwa kuyatekeleza yale yaliyoamuliwa na Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) na yakafundishwa kwao na Mtume wake (S.A.W.) kama moja ya ahadi juu yao.
Aidha wametakiwa vilevile kutekeleza na yale ambayo wao huyaamua kwa misingi ya dini yao na kisha wakaaomba dua kwa Mweneyzi Mungu (S.W.) awawafikishie.
Akitoa wito huo, Mhadhiri wa kiislamu jijini Dar es Salaam, Ustaadh Kondo Bungo amewaambia Waislamu kwamba maamrisho ya Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.), mafundisho ya Mtume (S.A.W) na maamuzi wanayoyachukua Waislamu hao na kisha wakayaombea dua kwa Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W) awawafikishie yote hayo ni miongoni mwa ahadi mbele ya Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) ambazo wanayo dhima ya kuzitekeleza.
Ustaadhi Bungo alikuwa akiongea na Waislamu katika Msikiti wa Taqwa, uliopo Mwananyamala, Dar es Salaam, baada ya Swala ya I'sha, Jumapili, Januari 7 mwaka huu.
Akiufafanua msimamo wake huo juu ya suala hilo, Ustaadh Bungo alisema licha ya Waislamu wengi kuwa wanalijua jambo hilo bado kuna tatizo la utekelezaji wa ahadi hizo wanazozichukua na kisha aliwauliza Waislamu: "...nini kiini cha tatizo hili?".
Akifafanua kuhusu kiini cha tatizo hilo la kutotekelezwa ahadi hizo, Ustaadh Bungo alisema kwamba ahadi nyingi zinakwamishwa na watu wa aina tatu miongoni mwa umma wa Waislamu ambao aliwataja kuwa ni vibaraka, waoga na wazembe.
Akiwazungumzia vibaraka alisema: "mtu kibaraka ni (yule) ambaye mko naye msikitini na anapiga takbira kwa wingi lakini kesho utamkuta anajipendekeza kwa kiongozi anayewatukana Waislamu... na yeye ndio wa kwanza kupanga mstari kutoa mkono kwa kiongozi huyo (kama dalili ya salamu ya heshima)"
Ustaadhi Bungo aliendeleza uchambuzi wake ambapo alisema ikitokea Muislamu huyo kibaraka kuwa ni Imam au kiongozi wa Taasasi ya Kiislamu, basi yeye ndio huwa wa kwanza anapokuwa na hafla kuwaalika viongozi wenye kauli chafu dhidi ya Waislamu kuwa wageni rasmi.
Alilitaja kundi la pili kuwa ni Waislamu waoga ambao alisema hao nao ni tatizo. Alisema Waislamu walio katika kundi hilo, kutokana na woga wao, husahau kumhofu Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) na badala yake wakawahofu wanandamu wenzo kutokana na madaraka walionayo na vitisho vyao.
Ustaadhi Bungo aliwatamnabaisha Waislamu kwamba ikitokea mtu huyo mwoga kuwa Imam, sheikh au amir, basi anapotoa hotuba zake huwa anayumbayumba katika mada.
"Siku zote huwa hawasemi kweli watu hawa na wala hawafundishi yanayostahiki kuwa haki... kwa mfano badala ya kufundisha kuindoa dhuluma wao hufundisha kuikwepa", alieleza Ustaadh Bungo.
Akifafanua hoja yake hiyo alisema ikitokea 'grosari' imejengwa mbele ya msikiti, basi imamu au sheikh huyo mwoga hubadili njia badala ya kuwataka waumini "wakaiondoe grosari hiyo", na kisha akauliza: "je katika njia hiyo nyingine pakijengwa baa imam huyo na waumini watapita wapi?"
Akilitaja kundi la tatu Ustaadh Bungo alisema watu wake ni wazembe na akadai kwamba hao ni hatari zaidi.
Alisema wakati wale waoga hutoa visingizio vya "eti wanatumia hekima", waumini wazembe hudai "eti wanasubiri amiri wao aseme!"
Ustaadh Bungo ameeleza kuwa katika Uislamu, suala la kupambana na maovu kwa misingi ya dini hiyo ni amri, na kwamba amri yoyote ni ibada.
Akitolea mfano alisema: "Kuswali ni ibada na pindi wakti (wakati) unapotimu waumini huinuka wakaswali pasi na kumsubiri amir", na kisha akahoji, "sasa iweje suala la kuondoa maovu wasubiri kauli ya amir?"
Amesema, muda wa swala ukifika, waumini, wakiwemo wazembe hao, huinuka kwenda kuswali na wala hawasikiki wakitoa visingizio vyao vya kumsubiri amir, na aashangaa iweje katikia ibada zingine waumini wadai kumsubiri amir.
Ustaadh Bungo aliwataka waumini kuwatambua watu hao watatu wanaokwamisha utekelezaji wa ahadi wanazozichukua Waislamu ili wapate kuwaelimisha na pale inaposhindikana kuelimishwa basi wawaepuke kwa vile alisema watu hao ni kikwazo katika maendeleo ya jamii ya Waislamu.
Aizungumzia umuhimu wa kuwaelimisha, ustaadh huyo aliwakumbusha waumini msiktini hapo kisa cha Nabii Musa (A.S) aliyekimbilia Madiyan baada ya kukabiliwa na tuhuma ya kupiga mtu hadi kufa katika utawala wa Firauni.
Lakini wakati Musa akiwa Madiyan, Ustaadh Bungo alisema Mwenyezi Mungu alimwambia Musa (A.S) aende kwa Furauni "akamlinganie" aache kiburi chake cha kujidai yeye Mungu, kufanya dhuluma, mauaji ya raia na ukandamizaji uliokithiri.
Alisema, Musa (A.S), ambaye awali aliukimbia utawala wa Firauni kwa hofu ya tuhuma zilizokuwa zikimkabili, alilazimika kuishinda nafsi yake iliyokuwa ikimuhofu Firauni ambaye alikuwa ni kiumbe na mwanadamu kama yeye Musa (A.S).
"Musa (A.S) akaacha mara moja kumhofu Firauni na badala yake akazidisha kumhofu Allah (S.W) (hivyo) akaamua kwenda kumkabili Firauni licha ya maguvu yake ya dola na wapambe wake wachawi na washirikina", alifafanua Ustaadh Bungo.
Alisema Musa (A.S) aifanikiwa kumshinda Firauni na kuwakomboa wananchi waliokuwa wakiteseka chini ya utawala huo wa kidhalimu wa Firauni.
Aidha, kuhusu kundi la waislamu wazembe, Ustaadh Bungo aliwakumbusha Waislamu mazingira ya enzi ya Mtume (S.A.W) ambapo alisema katika vita zote zilizopiganwa wakati huo na ambazo zilijulikana kama "Ghazua", waumini baada ya kujua kuwa walikuwa wakipigana kwa amri ya Mola wao na haki ya dini yao, hawakuwa wakizembea kwa kujenga visingizio vya kusubiri amri ya Mtume (S.A.W), bali kila walipoona dhuluma, vita au shari ikielekezwa kwao walipamabna nayo.
"Ama kwa wale vibaraka", alisema Ustaadh Bungo, "hawa ni wa kupigwa vita sambamba na madhalimu wanaowaweka mbele na kuwapa majukwaa ya kuwatusi Waislamu".
'Hajj Trust' yaongeza huduma kwa mahujaji
* Usafiri wa Jeddah-Madina sasa kwa ndege
Na Mwandishi Wetu
Mahujaji wa Tanzania watakaokwenda Hija kuanzia mwaka huu watapatiwa usafiri wa ndege kutoka Jeddah kwenda Madina ili kukwepa uchovu wa safari ndefu ya masaa nane kati ya miji hiyo miwili ambao wangeupata endapo wangetumia usafiri wa basi.
Hayo yalisemwa na Katibu Mkuu wa Taasisi ya Kiislamu inayoshughulikia masuala ya Hija hapa nchini, Tanzania Muslim Hajj Trust, Abdallah M.Jabir, alipokuwa akizungumza na NASAHA kuhusu maandalizi ya Hija ya mwaka huu.
Jabiri amesema kuwa nyongeza hiyo ya huduma ya usafiri wa ndege kwa kutumia ndege ya Shirika la Ndege la Saudi Arabia, Saudi Airlines, haitaathiri huduma nyingine zitolewazo na taasisi yake wala ongezeko la gharama kutoka kwa Mahujaji. Gharama za Hija kwa mwaka huu kama ilivyotangazwa na taasisi yake ni dola za Kimarekani 1600, ikiwa ni ongezeko la dola 100 zaidi kutokana na kupanda kwa gharama za huduma za ndani za serikali nchini Saudi Arabia.
Alizitaja huduma nyingine kwa uchache wazitoazo kwa Mahujaji kuwa ni pamoja na chakula kwa siku zote wawapo katika miji ya Maka, Madina na Mina na huduma ya matabibu wa kiume na wa [censored] wakati wa Hija. Huduma nyingine ni za waongozaji Mahujaji katika miji hiyo mitatu na ziara za maeneo matakatifu ya kihistoria zilizopo Madina.
Aidha alisema matayarisho ya Ibada ya Hija ya mwaka huu yalishaanza toka miezi sita iliyopita ambapo mpaka sasa Waislamu zaidi ya 200 tayari wamejiorodhesha, lengo likiwa ni kusafirisha Mahujaji kati ya 350 na 400.
Akijibu swali la mwandishi kwanini wasitumie ndege za Shirika la Ndege la Yemen ambazo inasamekana bei zake ni nafuu sana, Jabir alisema Hajj Trust hutumia ndege za kukodi za shirika la ndege Tanzania (ATC) ambazo pamoja na kuwa huenda moja kwa moja Jeddah, lakini pia wanajihisi ufahari kama wazalendo kushuka katika uwanja wa ndege wa kigeni wakiwa na ndege yenye alama ya Taifa wanalotoka.
"Sisi ni wazalendo wa Taifa hili, tunasikia ufahari pesa za Watanzania zinapobaki katika mikono ya Watanzania wenyewe badala ya kuzipeleka kwa watu wa nje... Lakini pia ni ufahani kushuka Jeddah tukiwa kwenye ndege yenye nembo ya Taifa letu", alisema Katibu Mkuu hayo wa Hajj Trust.
Hata hivyo, alidai kuwa tofauti kati ya nauli inayotozwa na ndege ya shirika hilo la Yemen na ile inayotozwa katika ndege za ATC ni dola 15 tu, huku safari za ATC zikiwa ni za moja kwa moja na hivyo kupunguza usumbufu kwa Mahujaji kwa kupanda na kushuka wabadilishapo ndege wakiwa njiani.
"Safari hizi za ndege ya Yemen sio kitu kipya, zimeanza toka toka Novemba 1999. Hata sisi huko nyuma tuliwahi kutumia ndege zao kusafirishia waumini waliokwenda (kufanya Ibada ya) Umra, " alisema Jabir.
Ratiba ya safari za Hija kama ilivyooneshwa kwa mwandishi ni kuwa ndege zitaondoka Dar es Salaam kwenda Jeddah Februari 17, 18, 19 na 23, na zile za kurudi zitaanzia Machi 11, mwaka huu.
Mbumbumbu wa demokrasia waliomo katika chama tawala ni hatari zaidi
* Wadai pia demokrasia mbumbumbu
Na Mwandishi Wetu
IMEELEZWA kuwa makuzi hafifu ya demokrasia nchini ya mechangiwa na kuwepo ndani ya chama tawala kwa wananchi ambao ni mbumbumbu wa demokrasia kwa vile bado wanaamini mfumo wa chama kimoja.
Aidha imefafanuliwa kwamba umbumbumbu huo umewagubika hata baadhi ya watendaji katika chama hicho ambao pia hukutana na wananchi kama watendaji serikalini.
Hayo yameelezwa na wananchi waliozungumza na gazeti hili kufuatia kauli ya Rais Benjamin Mkapa aliyedai kwamba wapo mbumbumbu wa demokrasia.
Wakiyafafanua maelezo yao hayo, wananchi hao wamesema, kwa mfano, Mwenyekiti wa chama tawala anapotumia kofia yake ya Urais kushinikiza nguvu za dola kuzuia mikutano ya vyama vingine (pinzani) vya siasa husaidia kuwapotosha zaidi wale mbumbumbu wa demokrasia wanaodhani kuwa bado tupo kwenye mfumo wa chama kimoja.
Wamesema pia kwamba kuwepo kwa "demokrasia mbumbumbu" kumechangiwa kwa kiasi kikubwa na wale wanaodhani kuwa kununua kura, kuwahonga wapiga kura, kuiba kura, kutumia vitisho na hata nguvu za dola kupora kura na kukandamiza upinzani ni sehemu ya demokrasia.
Pia wameeleza kwamba wapo miongoni mwa mambumbumbu hao wa demokrasia walijiumbua wakati wa kampeni pale walipopanda kwenye majukwaa "wasijue cha kuzungumza ila kuanza kutumia maneno machafu dhidi ya wake za baadhi ya wagombea ambao hotuba zao zilijaa hoja nzito ambazo mambumbu walishindwa kuzijibu."
"Mambumbumbu wengi pia wamo ndani ya chama tawala. Hawa demokrasia yao ni 'demokrasia mbumbumbu' pia. Kwao mwananchi akijiunga na chama cha upinzani hustahili hata kunyimwa haki zake za msingi za kibinadamu na zile za kiraia. Baadhi ( ya mambumbumbu hao) hudhani kuwa ni halali hata kutumia nguvu za dola kumbughudhi na hata kumtesa mtu na familia yake kwa kumnyima ajira na njia yoyote ya kujitafutia riziki kuwa japo kwa biashara ya genge la nyanya. Ndio maana imekuwa kawaida ya wengi kuwaalika baadhi ya viongozi wa chama tawala kuwasimikia 'vijiwe' na bendera za mashina ili wapate uhalali wa kufungua magenge ya kujipatia riziki", alieleza Mwalimu Shaaban Hadidu.
Mwalimu Hadidu aliongeza kwamba baadhi ya mambumbumbu hao huwa hawaoni haya wala vibaya kuwaambia wananchi tundika bendera usalimike.
Wakizidi kuchambua kina cha umbumbumbu uliopo wananchi hao wamedai wapo pia mambumbumbu waliona sawa tu kutukana dini za baadhi ya wananchi kuwa ni wenye kuhongwa tena ndani ya majumba yao ya Ibada, na wengine wakadiriki hata kuwakodi watu waliojiita "masheikh" ili wapande majukwaa kukashifa dini za watu wanaoonekana kutokipenda chama cha mambumbumbu hao.
Wananchi hai pia walielezea kuwepo kwa umbumbumbu demokrasia upande wa upinzani pia. Wamesema mambumbumbu katika upande huo hudhani demokrasia maana yake kujipendekeza chama tawala ili "wasalimike, " na Msajili wa Vyama asije akataka kuhakiki vyama vyao kama bado vina wanachama, vinafanya mkutano wake kwa mujibu wa katiba na vinafanya uchaguzi wa kidemokrasia wa viongozi wake tangu viundwe miaka 8 iliyopita. "Miongoni mwao hawa wapo pia viongozi wa vyama ambao hawaishi kujipendekeza kwao huko, hufikia hata baadhi yao kutumiwa kama mapandikizi dhidi ya kambi ya upinzani, wanahribu vyama vyetu na sasa wanatufanya wote tuonekane hatuna maana" alilalamika Bw. Furaha Msonga.
Aidha, wananchi hao wamesema lipo pia swala la umoja wa kitaifa ambapo wametahadharisha .vyama vingi visiwe sababu ya kuvunja utaifa.
Hata hivyo wameongeza kutoa tahadhari kwamba watanzania waasitegemee kujenga utaifa huo huku baadhi ya viongozi kwenye chama tawala hawaishi kuwakashifu na kuwakejeli baadhi ya viongozi na wananchama wa vyama vya upinzani.
Wakitolea mfano wa jinsi viongozi wa chama tawla wanavyoweza kufanya kazi na wale wa upinzani kwa msalahi ya taifa, wananchi hao wamemtaja Mzee Nelson Mandela wa Afrika ya Kusini ambapo wamesema watu wa chama tawala wangejifunza toka Afrika Kusini au hata Marekani.
"Mandela alikuwa akifanyakazi na viongozi wa upinzani, na (George) Bush (wa Marekani) pia kaonesha hilo", alieleza mwanchi mmoja aliyejitambulisha kwa jina moja tu la Mgana..
Waislamu watakiwa kuwa watekelezaji wa maamuzi
* Watakiwa kwatambua wale wanaokwamisha utekelezaji ambao ni vibaraka, waoga na wazembe
Na Mwandishi Wetu
WAISLAMU nchini wametakiwa kuyatekeleza yale yaliyoamuliwa na Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) na yakafundishwa kwao na Mtume wake (S.A.W.) kama moja ya ahadi juu yao.
Aidha wametakiwa vilevile kutekeleza na yale ambayo wao huyaamua kwa misingi ya dini yao na kisha wakaaomba dua kwa Mweneyzi Mungu (S.W.) awawafikishie.
Akitoa wito huo, Mhadhiri wa kiislamu jijini Dar es Salaam, Ustaadh Kondo Bungo amewaambia Waislamu kwamba maamrisho ya Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.), mafundisho ya Mtume (S.A.W) na maamuzi wanayoyachukua Waislamu hao na kisha wakayaombea dua kwa Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W) awawafikishie yote hayo ni miongoni mwa ahadi mbele ya Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) ambazo wanayo dhima ya kuzitekeleza.
Ustaadhi Bungo alikuwa akiongea na Waislamu katika Msikiti wa Taqwa, uliopo Mwananyamala, Dar es Salaam, baada ya Swala ya I'sha, Jumapili, Januari 7 mwaka huu.
Akiufafanua msimamo wake huo juu ya suala hilo, Ustaadh Bungo alisema licha ya Waislamu wengi kuwa wanalijua jambo hilo bado kuna tatizo la utekelezaji wa ahadi hizo wanazozichukua na kisha aliwauliza Waislamu: "...nini kiini cha tatizo hili?".
Akifafanua kuhusu kiini cha tatizo hilo la kutotekelezwa ahadi hizo, Ustaadh Bungo alisema kwamba ahadi nyingi zinakwamishwa na watu wa aina tatu miongoni mwa umma wa Waislamu ambao aliwataja kuwa ni vibaraka, waoga na wazembe.
Akiwazungumzia vibaraka alisema: "mtu kibaraka ni (yule) ambaye mko naye msikitini na anapiga takbira kwa wingi lakini kesho utamkuta anajipendekeza kwa kiongozi anayewatukana Waislamu... na yeye ndio wa kwanza kupanga mstari kutoa mkono kwa kiongozi huyo (kama dalili ya salamu ya heshima)"
Ustaadhi Bungo aliendeleza uchambuzi wake ambapo alisema ikitokea Muislamu huyo kibaraka kuwa ni Imam au kiongozi wa Taasasi ya Kiislamu, basi yeye ndio huwa wa kwanza anapokuwa na hafla kuwaalika viongozi wenye kauli chafu dhidi ya Waislamu kuwa wageni rasmi.
Alilitaja kundi la pili kuwa ni Waislamu waoga ambao alisema hao nao ni tatizo. Alisema Waislamu walio katika kundi hilo, kutokana na woga wao, husahau kumhofu Mwenyezi Mungu (S.W.) na badala yake wakawahofu wanandamu wenzo kutokana na madaraka walionayo na vitisho vyao.
Ustaadhi Bungo aliwatamnabaisha Waislamu kwamba ikitokea mtu huyo mwoga kuwa Imam, sheikh au amir, basi anapotoa hotuba zake huwa anayumbayumba katika mada.
"Siku zote huwa hawasemi kweli watu hawa na wala hawafundishi yanayostahiki kuwa haki... kwa mfano badala ya kufundisha kuindoa dhuluma wao hufundisha kuikwepa", alieleza Ustaadh Bungo.
Akifafanua hoja yake hiyo alisema ikitokea 'grosari' imejengwa mbele ya msikiti, basi imamu au sheikh huyo mwoga hubadili njia badala ya kuwataka waumini "wakaiondoe grosari hiyo", na kisha akauliza: "je katika njia hiyo nyingine pakijengwa baa imam huyo na waumini watapita wapi?"
Akilitaja kundi la tatu Ustaadh Bungo alisema watu wake ni wazembe na akadai kwamba hao ni hatari zaidi.
Alisema wakati wale waoga hutoa visingizio vya "eti wanatumia hekima", waumini wazembe hudai "eti wanasubiri amiri wao aseme!"
Ustaadh Bungo ameeleza kuwa katika Uislamu, suala la kupambana na maovu kwa misingi ya dini hiyo ni amri, na kwamba amri yoyote ni ibada.
Akitolea mfano alisema: "Kuswali ni ibada na pindi wakti (wakati) unapotimu waumini huinuka wakaswali pasi na kumsubiri amir", na kisha akahoji, "sasa iweje suala la kuondoa maovu wasubiri kauli ya amir?"
Amesema, muda wa swala ukifika, waumini, wakiwemo wazembe hao, huinuka kwenda kuswali na wala hawasikiki wakitoa visingizio vyao vya kumsubiri amir, na aashangaa iweje katikia ibada zingine waumini wadai kumsubiri amir.
Ustaadh Bungo aliwataka waumini kuwatambua watu hao watatu wanaokwamisha utekelezaji wa ahadi wanazozichukua Waislamu ili wapate kuwaelimisha na pale inaposhindikana kuelimishwa basi wawaepuke kwa vile alisema watu hao ni kikwazo katika maendeleo ya jamii ya Waislamu.
Aizungumzia umuhimu wa kuwaelimisha, ustaadh huyo aliwakumbusha waumini msiktini hapo kisa cha Nabii Musa (A.S) aliyekimbilia Madiyan baada ya kukabiliwa na tuhuma ya kupiga mtu hadi kufa katika utawala wa Firauni.
Lakini wakati Musa akiwa Madiyan, Ustaadh Bungo alisema Mwenyezi Mungu alimwambia Musa (A.S) aende kwa Furauni "akamlinganie" aache kiburi chake cha kujidai yeye Mungu, kufanya dhuluma, mauaji ya raia na ukandamizaji uliokithiri.
Alisema, Musa (A.S), ambaye awali aliukimbia utawala wa Firauni kwa hofu ya tuhuma zilizokuwa zikimkabili, alilazimika kuishinda nafsi yake iliyokuwa ikimuhofu Firauni ambaye alikuwa ni kiumbe na mwanadamu kama yeye Musa (A.S).
"Musa (A.S) akaacha mara moja kumhofu Firauni na badala yake akazidisha kumhofu Allah (S.W) (hivyo) akaamua kwenda kumkabili Firauni licha ya maguvu yake ya dola na wapambe wake wachawi na washirikina", alifafanua Ustaadh Bungo.
Alisema Musa (A.S) aifani
Mbumbumbu wa demokrasia waliomo katika chama tawala ni hatari zaidi
* Wadai pia demokrasia mbumbumbu
Na Mwandishi Wetu
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This all boils down to one word- jealousy.
Most of this is spurred by one woman, Jerri Pope, known as Purseservere @ Bonanzl- she can't get along. She was removed from these forums when she couldn't play well with others and now she's vindictive. She lies about her location, the condition of her bags, her "Italian" leather worker, Tony, on and on. She was confronted about this stuff and other unethical practices on TPF and EBay. ALL these pages are her response. This is how big her jealousy gets.
There are other people who write some of this sometimes but she was and is the driving force. and it's pointless to talk with her. she can't have conversations. Read through these pages and it's pretty clear. She'll end up booted off of effenhaute next.
So in the end we say move on, nothing to see here...
This all boils down to one word- jealousy.
Most of this is spurred by one woman, Jerri Pope, known as Purseservere @ Bonanzl- she can't get along. She was removed from these forums when she couldn't play well with others and now she's vindictive. She lies about her location, the condition of her bags, her "Italian" leather worker, Tony, on and on. She was confronted about this stuff and other unethical practices on TPF and EBay. ALL these pages are her response. This is how big her jealousy gets.
There are other people who write some of this sometimes but she was and is the driving force. and it's pointless to talk with her. she can't have conversations. Read through these pages and it's pretty clear. She'll end up booted off of effenhaute next.
So in the end we say move on, nothing to see here...
This all boils down to one word- jealousy.
Most of this is spurred by one woman, Jerri Pope, known as Purseservere @ Bonanzl- she can't get along. She was removed from these forums when she couldn't play well with others and now she's vindictive. She lies about her location, the condition of her bags, her "Italian" leather worker, Tony, on and on. She was confronted about this stuff and other unethical practices on TPF and EBay. ALL these pages are her response. This is how big her jealousy gets.
There are other people who write some of this sometimes but she was and is the driving force. and it's pointless to talk with her. she can't have conversations. Read through these pages and it's pretty clear. She'll end up booted off of effenhaute next.
So in the end we say move on, nothing to see here...
This all boils down to one word- jealousy.
Most of this is spurred by one woman, Jerri Pope, known as Purseservere @ Bonanzl- she can't get along. She was removed from these forums when she couldn't play well with others and now she's vindictive. She lies about her location, the condition of her bags, her "Italian" leather worker, Tony, on and on. She was confronted about this stuff and other unethical practices on TPF and EBay. ALL these pages are her response. This is how big her jealousy gets.
There are other people who write some of this sometimes but she was and is the driving force. and it's pointless to talk with her. she can't have conversations. Read through these pages and it's pretty clear. She'll end up booted off of effenhaute next.
So in the end we say move on, nothing to see here...
This all boils down to one word- jealousy.
Most of this is spurred by one woman, Jerri Pope, known as Purseservere @ Bonanzl- she can't get along. She was removed from these forums when she couldn't play well with others and now she's vindictive. She lies about her location, the condition of her bags, her "Italian" leather worker, Tony, on and on. She was confronted about this stuff and other unethical practices on TPF and EBay. ALL these pages are her response. This is how big her jealousy gets.
There are other people who write some of this sometimes but she was and is the driving force. and it's pointless to talk with her. she can't have conversations. Read through these pages and it's pretty clear. She'll end up booted off of effenhaute next.
So in the end we say move on, nothing to see here...
This all boils down to one word- jealousy.
Most of this is spurred by one woman, Jerri Pope, known as Purseservere @ Bonanzl- she can't get along. She was removed from these forums when she couldn't play well with others and now she's vindictive. She lies about her location, the condition of her bags, her "Italian" leather worker, Tony, on and on. She was confronted about this stuff and other unethical practices on TPF and EBay. ALL these pages are her response. This is how big her jealousy gets.
There are other people who write some of this sometimes but she was and is the driving force. and it's pointless to talk with her. she can't have conversations. Read through these pages and it's pretty clear. She'll end up booted off of effenhaute next.
So in the end we say move on, nothing to see here...
This all boils down to one word- jealousy.
Most of this is spurred by one woman, Jerri Pope, known as Purseservere @ Bonanzl- she can't get along. She was removed from these forums when she couldn't play well with others and now she's vindictive. She lies about her location, the condition of her bags, her "Italian" leather worker, Tony, on and on. She was confronted about this stuff and other unethical practices on TPF and EBay. ALL these pages are her response. This is how big her jealousy gets.
There are other people who write some of this sometimes but she was and is the driving force. and it's pointless to talk with her. she can't have conversations. Read through these pages and it's pretty clear. She'll end up booted off of effenhaute next.
So in the end we say move on, nothing to see here...
For anyone who no longer wishes to associate w/ TPF, there is a new forum started by some former PFers
www.effenhaute.com
hat a bunch of copy cat [censor]s. They steal others IDs and put words in their mouths. It just proves what they are about. [censor] LIARS AND THIEVES SCAMMING THE PUBLIC.
^ Keep it up, all TPF members on ebay should be NARU'd. They need to stop selling fakes on ebay. It's the GOOD sellers that kept getting knocked down by those stupid, lowlife [censor]es. All they ever do is sit in their fat [censor] and report, report, report those sellers all day. NO LIFE. no wonder their boyfriends/girlfriends/husbands/lesbian/gay lovers don't give a [censor]ing [censor] about them anymore. I mean just look at the Family and relationships thread, NO WONDER!
what a pity...looks like long time members of the ebay purse board are getting NARU
I'm*back*in*the*saddle*again - NO LONGER A REGISTERED USER
My, my, wonder who's next?
I parked in the tow-away zone, and when I got back, the entire neighborhood was gone.
I think wegolook can help everyone on here-
Wheeee! Hey look at me, I'm FLYINCOACH! I talk to myself and drool and dribble and if I scream and yell enough evryone will THINK I'M NUTZ AND FEAR ME! BOW DOWN TO THE GODDESS OF FEAR AND LOATHING, YOU DISGUSTING PURSE-WAVING PEASANT ###! I strike TERROR into the hearts of rational people EVERYWHERE because THEY FEAR ME, AND IF THEY DON'T I'LL GO AND TELL TEACHER ON THEM!
AND THERE ARE A LOT MORE OF ME THAN THERE ARE OF THEM!
NEEENER NEENER NEENER!
"One Roach to rule them all.
One Roach to find them.
One Roach to bring them all
And in the Darkness bind them".
flyin you gotta call me write now. they are taking over this board and I am scared.
Fraud & harassment from the purse forum on ebay
Note please report the purse forum complaints to ebay office of the president david smith at [protected]@ebay.com and [protected]@ebay.com add more contact names and info in the comments.
They are fraught with criminal activity and can't afford the attention. Ebay needs to investigate this scam immediately! The purse forum is an absolute sham, a haven for fraud and criminal activity! It was created by meaghan mahoney dusil and vladimir dusil and is being used to hijack and control the multi - million dollar business of handbag sales on ebay. They have created a license to steal.
This is how it works: tpf members sell bags on ebay. These sellers create an air of authority by claiming to be "a proud tpurse forum member" to the ebay buyers. Then they tell you to authenticate of their bag on tpf if you aren't sure of authenticity.
Then they will signin under a different name on tpf or one of their team mates with give their item a glowing authentication so you go back to buy their high end counterfeit bags with full confidence never knowing they sold you a great fake!
Want to be an expert on the purse forum, simply sign in start commenting and you are now a tpf "authenticator"... Wtf! And don't ever question one of their fake promotions or you will find you are banned and comments deleted. Therefore there is never anything but tpf coolaide served on the site!
They smear every competing seller who isn't "on their team" by filing daily bogus ebay counterfeit "reports" on everyone selling expensive bags who isn't a tpf member. They have an organized system of new members who do this regularly on schedules (Like soldiers).
The junior soldiers actually to report bounced lists to team leaders. This shows who they've managed to get kicked of ebay! When they have proven themselves they get protection and can sell unharrassed too. This is actually organized crime in the act of proliferating the trade of counterfeit bags. And what a great cover, the pretense of being the protector of the authentic bag indeed!
Meanwhile they sell copious numbers of fakes out of their chat rooms privately aside from their ebay sales by directing the ebay traffic into the site and making friends with the ebay buyers. And it's all unreported and tax free thank you very much!
Don't trust anything they say. 100% internet - ebay scam! They are fraught with criminal activity and can't afford the attention. Ebay needs to investigate this scam immediately and end it!
Ps watch the piranhas attack in full force here to witness just how very real and criminal these people are in action. Just watch!
I had so much trouble with these Purse Forum creeps. OMG they are like a gang or organized criminals! They got my account blocked even though I never sold a fake. They listed me on their site as selling a fake and kept reporting all my listings til my accont was frozen. There isn't a good way of complaining in ebay so I will be using the contacts DAVID SMITH AT CSME@EBAY.COM AND GRIFF@EBAY.COM to email and see what I can do.
I wonder if people know hese are the ones reporting them. I didn't at first. I had a customer tell me I was a fraud because they read about me on purse forum! I had 100% feedback till these people decided to gang up on me for no reason.
Good Luck I will help you to get these bad apples!
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
I visit the Purse Forum every so often, and, surprisingly, shared an encounter about a Cole Haan pack that I had bought through eBay Philippines and had remembered to be a phony. The individuals just encouraged me to haggle with the vendor to be permitted to return the purse. They didn't suggest purchasing a comparative one.
I visit the Purse Forum every so often, and, surprisingly, shared an encounter about a Cole Haan pack that I had bought through eBay Philippines and had remembered to be a phony. The individuals just encouraged me to haggle with the vendor to be permitted to return thepurse. They didn't suggest purchasing a comparative one.
This exact bag with the same blind stamps on the strap amongst other features. If there are any other opinions, I welcome them.
https://www.humancaresyria.org/how-to-help-the-refugee-children-of-syria/
I am here reading legal text book and speaking to Lawyer friends on how to crack down on this sham called PurseForum. Its time this site gets shut down as they are money hungry lowlifes running a criminal ring. How come everytime you challenge the status quo on this blog - your comments get deleted or you get banned? Case in point is the infamous "Orange Birkin Bag got black color transfer within 5 days" where the poor lady was distraught yet, these mean lowlife no-good fools descended on her attacking her rudely and bullying the poor girl? Like why is this even tolerated.? The stupid criminal moderator only allowed comments berating the poor girl. yet any come that's objective and tends to show empathy towards the girl was instantly deleted? WTF? What kind of one-sided forum is this where God forbid you ordered a pink bag from hermes and they send you are yellow one, these mindless guttersnipe voltrons literally swarm in to reassure you that the yellow one is better than the pink you truly wanted to order? Now I am convinced that some of the posters on that forum actually work for Meaghan Mahoney and Vlad Dusil. Makes no sense that any objective comment or unpopular views are immediately deleted yet unsuspecting buyers are expected to trust this site to authenticate purchase worth thousands of dollars...WTF? I will continue to ask around to see how the BBB can look into this ring of unscrupulous nitwits who have made themselves authorities for ish they know nothing about. This site is the reason why the resellers continue to dilute luxury brands
Agree. Here we are 11 months after your post and TPF is still the same cesspool of garbage it has always been. I have a lot of issues with that forum, mainly that it is HEAVILY policed and "authenticators" are personal friends/associates of the owners and hand-picked by them. It's VERY easy to run a ring of lies in this forum and so many helpless people are guided wrong. I wonder why the site hasn't been shut down by now?
To L33 - I don't agree with you. Why is she obligated to give you a FREE authentication?. They only do evaluations for long time participating members of the forum, not just people who come there for freebies! It is YOUR responsibility to pay for your own authentications. Waste of money you say? Their expertise is a trade, just like any other trade. Do you think a plumber would come to your house and fix your leak for free? WHY would you espect them to give their expertise away for free? These people deserve to be paid for their expertise, and your unappreciative 'entitled' attitudes is disgusting! It's not worth a small fee to prevent you from getting in trouble for listing a fake? Do you know you can lose your eBay or any other selling account for listing fakes? You don't think it is worth the small fee to get an authentication from an expert. You really have a lot to learn!
Purse forum is a bunch of rich brat kids who are racist. I want to report this website for posting racist comments. Hope these purse forum creeps whi are against asians so much will experience poverty and being looked down by other people. They are arrogant, airy heads.
LOL. I posted an LV lock to authenticate on the LV forum, and apparently lovlouisvuiton was too LAZY to authenticate it for me. She insists on telling me to authenticate using a PAID third-party seller. HOW LAZY IS THAT? I'm about to waste money just to see if my lock is real or not. It only takes her 1 minute to authenticate, but I guess she is too lazy. I guess she would rather authenticate the other clearly fake bags that are posted on that topic. Typical.
The Rebecca Minkoff forum is very, very dead. And for a good reason - the posters there are all [censored]es and love to defend a brand that makes absolutely atrocious, crap quality bags. Really, have you seen her new purses? Bags that costs $200-$400 and looks like a cheap 99 cent store bag you will find at Walmart. Sad it had to come to that, RM used to make bags made out of beautiful leather... but that was when she made bags in the USA, with premium leather that is glossy, buttery soft and very thick and soft to the touch. Now she makes bags out of the cheapest, crappiest, plastic looking leather and in China. Sad it had to come to that. Sooner or later her brand will fall apart and she will have to declare bankruptcy. LOL.
The other issue is some of these "Authenticators" don't allow anyone else with knowledge of the brand to help authenticate. I have seen a few of them now who have told off people helping out because they aren't "experts" ummm hello neither are these authenticators. There is no qualification one can undertake to be an "expert". To the outside person it looks like they are trying to keep anyone off there that might truthfully declare something a fake when they are trying to push it.
I am VERY wary of their so called experts with their attitudes. I have also seen some of these very same "experts" deem something authentic that is glaringly fake. Just be very very careful. Some forums only have ONE "expert" who will shut down anyone who tries to help, instead of welcoming the prospect of another helper and second opinion... VERY SUSPICIOUS. I have even gone off some brands due to the posters in some particular forums. The Rebecca Minkoff forum is particularly unfriendly but then when I realised the bags were crap anyway I didn't mind the rudeness, I guess they have to be defensive of bad choices haha
They are such snakes in the grass. Now they are buying my items to be able to leave me bad feedback, to mess up my sales. I AM ON TO YOU ! And anyone who has done this has been reported to ebay. When the ebay agent went thru your listings and saw you sell the same thing that I do, it was VERY obvious to them, and me, that you are trying to discredit my account. . The have made a case for me with a case number and you are being WATCHED! You messed with me before, and saw how well it went...GO AHEAD, MAKE MY DAY!
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