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firstly they try to sell you either Google search engine optimization or Facebook advertising.. be warned you will not receive either ...what will happen is ...they sneakily attempt to get you on a rolling contract which takes 30 days written notice to cancel by then you've probably already paid a whopping £500 for something that might cost £20 to do your self . These people will then threaten you will all sorts of stuff including personal debt collectors and legal action if you should cancel your debit / credit card ...
these say they work in london have a po box address in london but are really a manchester out fit with 2 adresses
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more info on him to follow...
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
Hello Tom,
While at the same time you received your letter someone called Steve Jackson telephoned my wife (who was unaware of this board or my posts) telling her to remove such libelous posts that we had posted. She did tell him we were very unhappy with what had happened regarding the rolling contract etc - but he was obviously fishing to see who Iockus was - hence the letter to you - they didn't know!
Obviously the personal contact is favourable to them, they feel it gives them 'leverage' if you see what I mean.
After all the smoking mirrors that TSMP/Net 66/Tom McVey emporium have used to 'hide' their trading location, which has been proven to be the Portugal East Manchester address, I am 'surprised' that TSMP are still trying to create this illusion which is nonsensical!
Back to their old tricks and games again, I surmise.
Tom,
I have no doubt that the page you mention was intended to shut down that part of the site because of the issue of TSMP using company logos without permission. The page is called Our Clients and prospective customers would surely want to look at this page for corroborative information about the company. Any website that invites prospective customers to learn more about them does not then shut them out.
But look at their Jobs page. Another page in this vein where Jo Bloggs, who might be seeking employment with a high flying internet company, would want to view these pages. But a username and password is required to Login. But how do you do that? There are no guiding instructions that you might expect in such a situation like 'create account'. Ot do you just send an email in an email to info@thesocialmediapeople.co.uk or perhaps Katrina at the publicrelations@ address? Perhaps she is handling all of that.
I think Tom, that its there for show and nothing else and the only thing working on the site is the rolling facebook news page and it is doubtful if TSMP write that - unless they can tell us different
As an aside
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/8152012/Time-to-ditch-the-blood-sucking-social-media-gurus.html
Tom Faulkner
Even if you received a call back, saying words to the effect '...I'm sorry I have not got back to you sooner. Unfortunately the IT/Relevant admin person is 'out with a client' however, as soon as they are available and I will get straight back to you with the information that you require. I again apologies for the delay and thank you for your patience...' It would have been provisionally acceptable.
As I earlier stated '...Back to their old tricks and games again, I surmise...'
resilwood
Unfortunately you are using logic. This is an area which TSMP have none which benefits anybody other than themselves, hence their attitude and responses to any queries or complaints that are presented to them. Which again raises the BIG question; are TSMP governed by a group of Directors GUILTY of CRIMINALITY? Who run a small group of companies which are a Scamming, Unethical, Dishonest, Amoral, Fraudulent, Deceitful, Illusionists?
Tom
And they are also saying ignore what we say during the phone call as the email you received states different. This is the complete opposite of what they told me regarding the compliance call where they claim I was told about the rolling contact and the email they sent stating that I only had a one month contact.
Confused?
Uth,
I did not get a confirmation email but we certainly resisted the idea of a rolling contract during the 'compliance call' but it seems that little point can be easily ignored, either by the sales rep, or as a general policy by TSMP. It seems to have happened to too many people to be an accident.
Im the type of guy that pulls ###ers over the counter to stomp their ###ing head in untill i get what i want, and i always do!
My advice is, forget about the money you've lost, call up around 50 men, grab some baseball-bats and pay them a visit, go through all floors and smash all equipment and knee-caps there, then find the Head of this scam and take both index and middlefingers and light the place on fire after locking them in, then have someone drop your story off at all media stations in the country as well as the fingers!
It's gonna be a story to remember, they can run but they cant hide
Mathematics and grammar have never been one of TSMPs strengths!
Tom Faulkner
Were you to get a definitive answer to your questions, which have been politely asked, relevant and express the concerns of others who have had the misfortune to have been 'suckered' into TSMPs web of deceit and Scam.
Unfortunately, these questions have been asked in various formats several times from TSMP to no avail!
Could it be the mysterious Kat (Katrina) of TSMPs PR Team has bitten off more than she can chew? Realising she is onto a hiding to nothing? I expect we, the aggrieved and deceived, will now be subject to the normal abuse and denial from the scam TSMP 'voice' of the dishonest, unethical, amoral, company directors who have no concern about clients and are preoccupied in maintaining their Scam as long as possible? I could be wrong, what do you think?
Haven't we seen this tactic before
Thankfully it has been removed. Unfortunately the topic has gone quite which means a company who still insists they're London based and continues to trade and scam people are continuing to get away with this.
I know they're under some serious legal action from a number of businesses and individuals some that Net66 / The Social Media People are aware off and some that is still being discussed and planned with solicitors.
Morning All,
Glad to see more feedback on here. Anybody wishing to make any enquiries or to have any questions answered please get in contact.
We welcome any "legal" action and feel this speculation is going to far. Many complainants feel the need to say things such as "under investigation" etc. This is NOT true.
Katrina
Public Relations
@thesocialmediapeople
Which Brings to mind:
When did TSMP last post a response?
Perhaps the new tactic, when all else fails, is to ignore everything and hope it goes away. They have never posted an answer to any queries, questions and even accusations. so it makes very little difference to where we have arrived. The only thing of note is that some of us have been able to recover some of our money, which they deny (and that is a laugh). Otherwise there just been a chipping away of the TSMP edifice, whatever that might be.
Makes you wonder why they didn't do that in the first place.
We welcome any "legal" action and feel this speculation is going to far. Many complainants feel the need to say things such as "under investigation" etc. This is NOT true.
Katrina
Public Relations
@thesocialmediapeople
I would agree that in most cases I have seen of online criticism of a company, things have not gone far. But in this case I see something different. Very different IMO. A few very, very determined individuals have been scrutinising this company and its performance.
And how do TSMP know they are not being investigated by several organisations?
In my opinion, unless TSMP are squeaky clean and these allegations all totally unfounded I would guess they have quite alot to be concerned about. Just my opinion.
Showering abuse and threats at all critics, then presenting a 'calmer' image albeit of the same ilk insofar as complete denial and continuing to deny the facts placed in front of them, followed by placing their heads in the sand whilst they continue to ply their trade of scamming small companies and sole traders - Why not? TSMP and all it's associated companies which make up the McVey 'consortium' claim:
To be London based - False
Offices in Netherlands, Paris and New York - False
Not to be under a formal investigation by the ASA - False
VAT compliant - False
To have their own in-house solicitor (Steven Jackson) - False
DPA (Data Protection Act) compliant - False
Companies House compliant - False
Unfair Contracts Act Compliant - False
Copyright Compliant - False
Intellectual Property Compliant - False
Not been 'visited' by Trading Standards - False
Not been subject to an inquiry by their own bank! - False
Employing over 500 staff - False
Company Established 11 years - False
Company not visited by CC Bailiffs - False
An Ethical Company - False
An Honest Company - False
A Company with Integrity - False
TSMP/Net 66 / Tom & Neil McVey Consortium have complete contempt for anybody who has any dealings with them, including legislative bodies. All the false claims that they have made are all provable to be false, documented so.
The conclusion? An unethical, dishonest, scamming group of companies who thrive on criminality possibly?
To place some 'humour' on this topic, please click on below:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jf5h41aY-A0&feature=related
Well id did not take long for TSMP/Tom McVey to pop 'its' ugly head up did it?
The amount of aliases that Tom McVey uses on various Boards is abundant, and unfortunately for him he judges others by his own low standards and accuses critics of being other people whom he has a personal axe to grind! No I am not BadBiz but thanks for the compliment!
'Give Me Info Or I Will Take It' aka Steven Jackson, Jonathan Barker-Smith, Tom McVey etc. Cage rattled again because it has been stated on the web that your companies are an outright Scam? You have been asked to answer very simple legitimate questions by various ex-clients and all you have produced is smoking mirrors in response, without answering a simple question!
Here's a quick question: "Does TSMP / Net 66 Web Services trade solely from Portugal Street East Manchester M1 2WX"?
A simple yes or no will suffice.
Tell you something - I've listened to Faulkner. He is pretty handy on the phone.
Unlike Tom M who seemed to be struggling to hold his own and slippery and nasty.
The recent posts possibly confirm what I have believed for some time now. TSMP are trying to dig themselves out of one massive hole and the authorities crawling over over them.
P.S can any of you guys tell me the relationship between Grace and the other ugly mugs. Is she married into the family or actually a creation of that appalling family. Just curious - something about her suggests she has more brain cells than the rest of the others put together.
Regards
"Give Me Info Or I Will Take It"
If you are not involved with the McVey Consortium, why are you getting involved with this thread which involves a despicable ### individual Tom McVey and his father Neil McVey? No answer required.
Their (McVey's) companies, TSMP and Net 66 Web Services, who blatantly scam companies and individuals out of money have been shown to be unethical, dishonest, criminal and amoral with their similar scams at both TSMP (facebook) and Net 66 (SEO) at 1 Portugal Street Manchester M1 2WX.
To reiterate, and I quote 'Tom Faulkner': 28-09-2011:
The issue on this thread is the appalling business practices, lack of integrity, non-existent ethics and dishonesty of The Social Media People; the Managing Director of which is Mr Tom (Thomas) McVey.
'I am here defending my aunt's honour'
What a laugh.
More like I am trying to dig myself and my family out of a massive pile of dog[censored].
What an insight!
Well TSMP/Net 66 and the McVey's are back to their true colours again, I wonder if the 'dog[censored]' they are in also includes that of 'Rodney's and Dell Boy's'? Perhaps not, they were genuinely funny!
For any individual who has had the dubious opportunity to have any involvement with TSMP will be overly aware that the only person(s) who would publicly say, and I quote "...i admit the social media are agressive and hard to deal with but at least they dont scam..." are the McVeys!
Any criticism of TSMP, constructive or over wise, factual evidence supplied of their misdoings, infringement of legislature, deceit, threats and scamming is rebuked with profanity both verbal and written.
TSMPs continual denial of their business trading address and the inference that they are based in London, Paris, New York and Amsterdam (take the Netherlands out of the equation and 'Only Fools and Horses' comes to mind!). Please see below TSMP and Net 66's door entry system at 1a Portugal Street East, Manchester FACT!
Incidentally for those who are not aware who the McVeys are, please see below named and some with their AKAs. It should be noted that all these family members have an active role in the running of TSMP / Net 66 Scam - Fact
Smoke & Mirrors, where have we seen that before? Umh, Ah yes that would be TSMP with their abuse!
Another of their tactics.
Give me info
you have a wonderful command of the English language.
With regard to:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7qgNVBFff8
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_v8c3-onHI
http://badbiz.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/2-Message-Aliases-plus-ANON-clip-20April13June-20-08-2011- 2-64Kbps.wma
http://badbiz.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/4-ANON-13-06-201110minedit-ONLY-28Kbps.wma
I can categorically confirm that the 'voice' on all of the above is that of Thomas (Tom) McVey of TSMP/Net 66.
This is the individual who 'resilwood' refers to as having, and I quote, "... a wonderful command of the English language."
It is pleasing to see that we all still have a sense of humour! However, we should not detract from the atrocious business practices of TSMP who have never answered any legitimate and relevant questions with regard to their business practices.
There is almost a mountain of documentary evidence to support our legitimate claims that TSMP are a company who are dishonest, dishonourable and without ethics or integrity.
The only thing TSMP (and Net 66) are good at, currently, is scamming companies and individuals by deception and deceit with a total cavalier approach with total disregard for any customer service or satisfaction of their debatable 'services'.
TSMPs view is most definitely summed up by this image, aptly titled 'Call Somebody Who Cares'
Hopefully the below will be larger!
Just spoke with nominet.org.uk
With regards to a few of my own client's domain names. Thought I'd bring up The Social Media People too and interestingly enough things have moved forwards. Their Registrant name was wrong and they should have received an e-mail.
As Tom pointed out,
John Quinlan who Tom McVey used as a profile picture for the Stephen Jackson account (of which I got print screens for) John Quinlan is a model and former pro wrestler. Perhaps Tom / Stephen / Stacey / whoever he wants to be called today, should reconsider using other people's photos and furthermore using people of high status to pretend to be representing their company.
Also, what is going to happen when Stephen Jackson is sent to court and no one turns up. Finally then Tom McVey should admit defeat if he shouldn't already.
Also... nominet.org.uk also enjoyed a laugh at tsmp and their choice of social media integration
The fact John Quinlan has his own Wikipedia page means that one could go to national press and pour petrol on the fire that TSMP has started by explaining how Net66 / The Social Media People tried to use a quite well known 'celebrity' to push their scam company further.
Infact, I'm going to do this, I'm going to talk to a friend at 'The Sun' and we all know that 'The Sun' newspaper will investigate.
So who's the '###wit' now Tom McVey! lol
Another criminal act to add to the rest, performed by, and in the name of TSMP/Net 66/Tom McVey and associates - Identity theft!
Has Tom McVey's ego dropped him in the ### again? I think so! lol a lot! And he wants to be taken seriously. Do You Think We Are Stupid Tom McVey? You are a little boy trying to play big league and you do not even register other than being in the yob brigade.
Advice - One should be very careful when powdering ones nose that they do not get that feeling of being on top of the world. The effect is like the stimulant ‘amphetamines’ but is stronger and doesn't last as long. People taking it feel wide-awake, confident and on top of their game and over-confident on it, and so take very careless risks.
Who could have developed such a serious problem with anxiety and paranoia? Topped with all the pressure of the in depth scrutiny that TSMP are currently receiving from various authoritative bodies it must be a bloody nightmare, and a court case pending. Sad!
Am I gloating? Not really, just enjoying the moment of another complete farce by Tom McVey and TSMP digging themselves into an ever bigger cesspit where they live and proving yet again that they collectively have:
No Morals - No Integrity - No Ethics - No Honour - and are:
Dishonest, Deceitful, Amoral, Criminal, ### Scammers
Has anyone else noticed that The Social Media People and Net66 are the worst rated company on Complaints Board?
Why could that be? Umh!
Could it be due to the complete lack of any customer service that people have received? Or
Could it be due to the abusive phone calls that numerous individuals have received from Tom McVey, Director, and his various aliases? Or
Could it be due to the various personal threats that numerous individuals have received from Tom McVey Director and his various aliases? Or
Could it be that due to numerous people being blatantly scammed? Or
Could it be because people are fed up from being treated like TSMPs personal piggy bank? Or
Could it be because people have seen through the sham of TSMP / Net 66? Or
Could it be because people are aware that up until recently all their clients details (current and past) are available, prior to being pass word protected, are openly available on the world wide web? see below.
Yeah I gave the fall list over at Badbiz forum a simple backlink check will show you net66 clients.
The facts are, they are the reason why the SEO industry has a bad name. Do companies really think they'll see results for £35 a month? That doesn't even cover half an hour of SEO! Well, actually it does. For net66 using competitive keywords means 10 minutes on-site optimisation will ensure that the company is placed on page one for SEO.
Quality SEO and competitive SEO is usually charged between 40 - 60 per hour.
Net66 market themselves on the fact they have [protected] of customers. The fact is, the best agencies I know of have a client list of between 50 - 90 and they produce QUALITY results!
Quality and TSMP/Net 66/Tom McVey in the same sentence is nonsensical, they are a complete Scam!
The McVey involvement has always been there.
When they started this current scam they were trading as 'Facebook-Ads', and it was a scam then, and after all it's metamorphosis it still remains the original scam.
Interestingly, Tom McVey has 55% share of the TSMP's parent company NET 66 WEB SERVICES LIMITED and Neil 'no thumbs' McVey only has the remaining 45%. Now if the company has, as claimed, been providing 'its' services for over 10/11/8 or what ever number of years then Tom McVey was still 16 years old when the supposed company was started and was at that time was (alleged to be) involved in a drugs related death in Glodwick, a notorious 'drug' haven in Oldham Greater Manchester! what a charmer!
Deal with this family and their companies e.g. TSMP at your own risk! They are an outright SCAM!
TSMP T&Cs are farcical, for example:
'2.10 The Company will provide the services with reasonable skill and care.'
This direct quote from the TSMPs own current T&Cs is nonsensical. What it really is saying is that they will provide a service not beyond what is usual or expected. Usual is no return, expected is failure! Scam! Scam! Scam! Avoid like the plague!
This one is a 'corker' on their T&Cs
'...We may amend these Terms at any time without prior notice. Your continued use of the Site will mean that you accept any amendments to the Terms.'
This should read: 'don't bother with quoting our Tems and Conditions to try to prove your point, because we will change them to suit our own ends and Scam you of your money'! Because how would you know that the T&Cs have been changed to their complete advantage without being informed that they have been changed? Or is it the case that you have to monitor TSMP website 24/7 to keep abreast of their manipulation?
More to follow...