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www.secureinvestment.com review: Ponzi Scheme 54

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I believe this website "www.secureinvestment.com" is a PONZI SCHEME. A Ponzi scheme is a fraudulent investment operation that pays returns to its investors from existing capital or new capital paid by new investors, rather than from profit earned by the organization running the operation. Operators of Ponzi schemes usually entice new investors by offering higher returns than other investments, in the form of short-term returns that are either abnormally high or unusually consistent. The perpetuation of the high returns requires an ever-increasing flow of money from new investors to sustain the scheme.

This website claims there is an average return of 23% monthly, that is impossible! On top of that, they have a "trading loss refund guarantee" where supposedly you won't lose the money you invest and maybe they do have some kind of fake reserve fund but I would like to see how long that lasts because if they do not get new "investors", then old investors (the people who have already invested money into their company) WILL most likely have their "account frozen" and wont receive their money back. All of a sudden investors wont be able to reach the websites customer service department or get anything resolved which in turn, you will lose everything you put in there. Their scam will continue to grow just like Madoff's scam did and will continue to steal peoples money.

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panpan
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Dec 26, 2013 6:26 pm EST

Well probably it is because there is a proportionaity between risk and return. It seems they claim they can achieve constantly over 100% profit annually without risk of losing money. But all the investments have risk. Besides, investments in derivatives, currencies, structured products are zero sum game. If they can predict so accurately the future (over 95% success) they will be the biggest investors the world has known. Someone could lend them with the modest 2 or 3% per month and let them make oney by earning 2 or 3 3 fold...

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KingFloyd
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Feb 06, 2014 1:20 am EST
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Please tell me what you base your statement on... I'm really considering this company for investment and I really want to know how do they provide returns for the last 6 years at such high rates

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Feb 25, 2014 9:31 pm EST
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Is there anyway that we can lodge a report to investigate their business operation? The thing that puzzles me is that if this is truly a scam, how come the authorities are not doing anything about it? And they have been operating for 6 YEARS! That's a long period of time.

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timothy wants insane money :(
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Mar 26, 2014 5:29 am EDT

Hi all,

I was thinking to invest in this company maybe just the trial however to see what its about. My question is however if this really is a scam then how can they
exist for this long (about 5 and a half years) ? . Thanks for reading someone please get back to me on this .

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Rimzz2014
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Apr 01, 2014 2:57 am EDT
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Hi All,
I can confirm based on my recent experience with this company that they are indeed a BIG SCAM.
I've always had my doubts, due to their operation model, but without any conclusive evidence on any forum, mixed with conflicting reports which neither proved legitimacy or scam, and just a few claiming they have received their money, I wanted to know once and for all (despite the risk), especially as I am not one for tarnishing any company’s name on a whim.

I have a $1000 account currently showing $121 interest, but just over 2 weeks ago I did a Bank Transfer for $9000 in order to integrate and start a $10000 account with reduced performance fees. The $9000 still isn't showing in my account and their Finance and Customer Services departments have ignored ALL 4 emails that I sent them, bearing in mind their policy states that, if your money isn't showing after 5 business days, email their Finance Department who will respond within 48 hours. Using their chat portal also, I was told twice that they have "prioritized" my emails, but I never received any replies.

I am now trying to recall the money through my bank, but there are no guarantees. However, I'll keep you updated with any new development.

I shall post this to other forums as well so that this scam is stopped once and for all.

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pansailor
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Apr 06, 2014 10:36 am EDT

To Rimzz2014
I would be very interested in hearing how your transfer went on. Was it successful in the end? I am contemplating opening an account with them. Thanks in advance.

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star69
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Apr 08, 2014 10:29 am EDT

What makes you think this 'company' has been around for 6 years? Because they say so on their web site? A web site that is less than two years old?
Do you know that even -if- you make money in a ponzi scheme, you can still be sued for the profits you made?

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Apr 09, 2014 11:53 pm EDT
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Hi everybody, hi Rimzz, I am sorry to read your story. I discovered actually yesterday evening your posts on different sites ( and you did well if things goes as you say), and I was very worry as I sent about the same amount to secureinvestment.com in order to fund my new account.
I must say I am releived to see this morning the money I sent (-20 USD for transfer) on my investment account. It took them 2 days to complete the transfer.
I decided to invest after a friend told me about it. He invested since 6 months and all is fine. Hie friend has a 6 figures investment with them since 2 years, and again, all fine...so far.
I agree to be careful with these investments, and I don't say it's 100 % sure, but regarding funding the account, for me it worked.
Please Joeg, try again to contact them, and keep us posted. Thanks and good luck.

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sos14
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Apr 11, 2014 6:26 am EDT
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Hi, Myself having invested a good amount in Secureinvestment.com; received returns and bank transfers for few months; now the company does not respond on chat or on email despite several attempts; my strong recommendation is do not invest in it now; also do not withdraw any funds since you will not get the money but the same will be deducted from your operating account; wait for further updates; currently their customer support is a sham and keep repeating like a parrot that they are waiting for updates from their finance department and writing to their finance department yields no result; only dead silence; note, you will not be able to get across to anyone of their management on phone too...So currently keep your funds with yourself and wait for further updates from me. Goodluck guys with your money and do not put your hard earned funds into areas where you have no control on. Should the company start responding and correcting itself, I shall be the first to state that also. Till then goodluck and goodbye.

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Sky24
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Apr 26, 2014 1:22 pm EDT

I have invested more than $ 100, 000 and yes, since end of JAN there is not a single penny paid. All what is mentioned above is true... we truly believe we lost our money. NO one ... ON ONE... should send money to secure investment from now on. They are doing nothing now but trying to keep us quite so that they will gain more money from new investors. However, they can not pay back a single dollar. Clients like me who invested large amount of money are keeping their mouths shut hoping they will get the money back.
The last thing we heard yesterday, which is really funny... they will hold a conference in June in Hong Kong! But they did not say anything about our money... As I said, they are trying to keep us silent by giving us hopes. If we will receive any funds, I will post it here and will let you know. Right now... they have proven to their own clients that secure investment is scam... BIG TIME. But they did not announce their failure on their website for new investors. Hoping to fool more people. BE CAREFUL and learn from our lesson which did cost us a lot.

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rspuk
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Apr 27, 2014 1:27 pm EDT

Ive just contacted them, as I also was impressed and very interested to send them some money and this was the conversation...

Richard:I
work in London and was wondering if it was possible to visit your
London Office in 1 Ropemaker st, London. I have a sum of money I wish to
invest and would like to see you in person.
Welcome Richard! Your request has been directed to our support team. Please wait for an operator to answer your call.
You are chatting with Customer Support.
Customer Support:Thank you for contacting Secure Investment. My name is Damien Guerra. How may I help you?
Richard:wow that was quick
Richard:I
work in London and was wondering if it was possible to visit your
London Office in 1 Ropemaker st, London. I have a sum of money I wish to
invest and would like to see you in person
Customer Support:We
arrange visits only for those clients who invested at least 1, 000, 000
USD. All investment terms and conditions stipulated in Terms of Service
and is not a matter of negotiation.
Richard:well that sounds like a crock of ###
Richard:are you for real?
Richard:am i just chatting with a robot?
Customer Support:In
this industry there are many big companies who have gone under the
knife and many Great ones that have brought about changes and gained
trust in there client's showing great profit's to their clients and
secure Investment is one of them.
Customer Support:We are here in the market from 2008 and are growing strong in numbers, and we are here to stay for many more years to come.
Customer Support:Keystone
Union Limited duly registered and licensed company fully complying with
laws of Hong Kong (The company’s number in the Public Registry Hong
Kong is 1971696) and our Terms of Service. The company operates since
December 2008 and offers long-term managed Forex investment opportunity.
The
company pays only the profits actually earned in Forex showing our
clients what money the company is making and how we make it. Detailed
trading reports are provided in the client’s area at our website.
Richard:so do i have to give you the 1 million first before getting an appointment?
Customer Support:That is the company setup policy apply to the clients who wants to visit our office and to arrange a meeting.
Richard:you still didnt answer my question...Do i have to give you my 1 million first before having an appointment?
Customer Support:Yes before having an appoinment to visit you will have to pay that.
Richard:lol
Customer Support:What
I would suggest is to try with our Trial Investment Package which
starts from $1000-$4, 999 for 20 days, and then based upon your
experience and convenience you can decide whether or not to invest
further.
Richard:But how do i now you are real or not?
Customer Support:The company registration can be checked on the following website: https://www.icris.cr.gov.hk/csci/login_i.do?loginType=iguest
Customer Support:You can use this link to check the company trading results http://secureinvestment.com/trading-history
Richard:ive seen all that, but that doesnt prove nothing to me
Richard:can i come to Hing Kong then?
Richard:Hong
Customer Support:All the terms and condition to visit are applied same.
Richard:why would anyone in there right mind hand over a large sum without at least meeting a representive from the company
Richard:crazy!
Customer Support:No
doubt Forex trading is a risky process, but having invested with Secure
Investment, any Forex trading loss is 100% covered by the Company's
reserve fund. If you check company's history for Forex Trade for the
past 5 years by clicking on this link: http://secureinvestment.com/trading-history,
you will see that the gross volume of Secure Investment profit trades
is much bigger than the gross volume of loss trades. Moreover, our
automated Forex trading system applies no leverage and uses
sophisticated stop-loss techniques that prevent any sufficient trading
loss.
Richard:i wish you would stop using copy and paste and talk to me
Richard:im really unsure here
Richard:i have a large amount and you are not selling this to me
Richard:i feel I would me risking all by not seeing someone
Customer Support:In
June 2014, we are calling our clients for the world wide conference
with Advanced investment package and higher have the possibility to meet
our management team in our Hong Kong office.
Customer Support:Due
to a large number of clients the meetings will be held as group
conferences. Five large conferences will be held in Hong Kong in June
2014. Dedicated personal meetings with Secure Investment management are
available to VIP+ clients only.Our clients will be able to meet in
person our Co-Owner and CEO, Michael Sterling. You will have a
possibility to ask questions and to talk to our key personnel including
our Senior Trader, Risk Manager, Security Manager, and many others.
Richard:June what?
Customer Support:Yes June.
Richard:I am travelling to the philippines on business
Richard:yes, but when in June?
Customer Support:You can e-mail us back at conference@secureinvestment.com
if you wish to apply for a conference meeting. Allow us several
business days to respond to your application with necessary
documentation and relevant information.
Richard:ok but what is the date in June
Customer Support:As
I have mentioned you please send an email if you wants to know the
detail about this but just to remind you it is only eligible for
Advanced Investment category clients and above.

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rspuk
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Apr 27, 2014 1:31 pm EDT

I really wished there was a real company out their!

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Alexx1
Mile End, GB
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Apr 29, 2014 8:33 am EDT

At the moment i believe it is a SCAM. i invested over 2000$ for a start in March 2014 they said they where doing a new software update on 7th April and to be patient my money will reflect in my account. Despite many emails to finance department which they never reply back and bogus, useless online chat goons my money to date has never reflected. In my mind i have written it off though i still nag them for my money but i am not keeping my hopes high. If your thinking of investing please DONT save yourself a lot of heartache. Look for other credible managed forex accounts.

Alex

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brian430
Newark, US
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Apr 30, 2014 9:55 pm EDT

Website shut down. How can this Michael Sterling get away with this. What can we do?

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Worried Investor
Monroe, US
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May 01, 2014 5:55 pm EDT
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Website is down. Does it mean I lost all my money?

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efrain1
Rancho Cucamonga, US
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May 01, 2014 7:56 pm EDT

same situation the webside is down some much worry

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Worried Investor
Monroe, US
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May 01, 2014 10:59 pm EDT
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They may have bank information and or personal information. Is there a risk of ID theft? This is serious.

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Tusha
Sutton Coldfield, GB
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May 02, 2014 12:51 am EDT
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I filed a fraud case against them in UK, lets see if we can send Michael Stirling Jail

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Worried Investor
Monroe, US
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May 02, 2014 8:09 am EDT
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We don't know if he is in UK, Hong Kong, Panama or some Russian country. How can someone locate this person?

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Tusha
Sutton Coldfield, GB
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May 02, 2014 8:51 am EDT
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If authority wants they can find all these scoundrels and put them behind the bar. Every one who has been affected should make file fraud care

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John7987
PR
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May 03, 2014 9:49 am EDT
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If anyone knows if we can do something for our money back please post it here

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Kimo76
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May 04, 2014 7:03 am EDT
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Hi Tusha, plz let us know the outcome of your case. Does anyone know what can we do to get our money back or even send those scammers behind the bars?

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Kimo76
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May 04, 2014 7:45 am EDT
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I have just filed a case through www.econsumer.gov

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oneluv
US
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May 04, 2014 7:19 pm EDT

I don't believe its a scam. I have had investment with them since January and haven't really had a problem. I had a situation where my money was taking out my operating account because they said the bank it was in had their account frozen for several months. They told to me to go to my bank and get a refund of my money and resend it. But I received an email a few weeks later saying they took money out of corporate funds to put in my account which they did. They always send emails and keep me updated with what's going on. Just like know when the website is down. They sent me an email saying It will be down because they are implementing a new platform and they apologize for an inconvenience it may cause. They haven't let me down yet.

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Kimo76
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May 04, 2014 11:02 pm EDT
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Could you tell us when was the last time you received a payment?

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John7987
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May 05, 2014 12:53 am EDT
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If it is as you say, why could I not make any withdrawal from February, and their email support is no longer available from May 1 ?

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star69
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May 05, 2014 8:21 am EDT

Their website went down because they are implementing a 'new platform'? And their emails bounce for the same reason? And they deleted their twitter and facebook accounts the same day the site went down because of the 'new platform'? Are you people really that gullible, or are you just trying to lure more suckers into the pyramid?

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SKY999333
AE
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May 05, 2014 4:58 pm EDT

Let us start by asking about the people who advertise them in videos through the Internet. Then we could offer anybody who can give us any information, real names, photos about the key persons who did that . I am sure some of these people did work with them as customer support and they give them little money, we can offer 10% or 20% each of the amount we can get back from them. we can start that through face book or twitter..etc

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star69
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May 05, 2014 7:11 pm EDT

Somehow I doubt the folks making testimonials for $5 at fiverr.com have extensive records.

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Tusha
Sutton Coldfield, GB
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May 06, 2014 8:13 am EDT
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Please complain to www.sec.gov who are affected by scams

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icyhot39
Pittsburgh, US
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May 06, 2014 5:48 pm EDT

Everything about this company screamed SCAM in giant letters. Let me recount my observations:

1) The name is ridiculous.
2) Every testimonial on youtube was formulaic and unauthentic..
2.5) All dates for web pages were very recent.
3) Every website touting its virtues were 1 page blog websites with no other content. Alternatively there were formulaic comments on random blogs.
4) Great investments do NOT need referrals, but Ponzi schemes do. They paid handsomely for referrals.
5) For an allegedly multinational company I couldn't find non-english translations of their website, testimonials, and blog posts.
6) The company was outside of a jurisdiction where US investors could have any real recourse. There was no known feduciary responsibility. In the US you may have a ### broker, but the funds (even managed ones) are held a by a separate company and segregated.
7) Their trades, while having the illusion of transparency were only shown at the end of the day. They could easily write up their trades after the fact. Hilariously, I couldn't find a single instance where their trades were actually real. They were allegedly trading eur/usd, but their trades were not in line with spot and futures prices at other brokers. The person who referred me to them argued that they were swap transactions, but I swaps on the CME were also not in line with their reports. I also doubt that swap transactions would trade so far under spot.
8) Their returns were ridiculous. If they had been operating for 6+ years they would already be billion/trillionaires with no desire for new capital. They also would need to be very secretive about their trades so that others wouldn't see what they were doing and do the same thing..resulting in a lack of profitability/edge.

I didn't lose any money with these crooks, but I have been curious to see how long it would take to play out. Apparently not very long.

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Mark61
ES
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May 07, 2014 7:25 am EDT
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I must accept that the money I invested with secureinvest.com is lost. However, I am not prepared to allow these swindlers to walk away. I would like to put together a list of all of those individuals suspected of involvement in this fraud and have an international arrest warrant issued for them.
Please take the time to go back through your emails and post all of the names that appear on them. I am willing to put up some money to facilitate the arrest and conviction of anyone involved in this scam.

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Tim Demarchelier
NL
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May 07, 2014 9:13 am EDT
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Hi there! Me and several of my friends invested money at Secure Investment. The website has been down for a week, they do not respond to email and phone. What should we do?

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Tusha
Sutton Coldfield, GB
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May 07, 2014 12:00 pm EDT
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I think we should all get together to put these people behind the bar. I have there emails and photos, now given to the authority. I have also proof of the bank transfer. It might take long but I am not letting them go free.

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Eagle777
CH
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May 07, 2014 2:10 pm EDT

Hi tusha,
Can u pls let us know which authority u reported them? Can u give any advice uf its best to use interpol or local authority? May i take the pgotos of them u have cz i dnt have any, me n 10 of my friends wana prepare astrong file to present to interpol. Thx

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Tusha
Sutton Coldfield, GB
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May 07, 2014 2:42 pm EDT
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Hi I have put complaint in www.sec.gov and www.actiofraud.org.uk with few documents, they have confirmed about my complaint and started now investigation. The photo you will find in youtube- business presentation

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Tusha
Sutton Coldfield, GB
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May 07, 2014 3:07 pm EDT
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These are the people who have cheated us, please give these photos to the police and ask to arrest them

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Tusha
Sutton Coldfield, GB
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May 07, 2014 3:33 pm EDT
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star69
US
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May 08, 2014 8:01 am EDT

You guys should look to whoever 'referred' you. They have some of your money right now.

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jkdisa
US
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May 09, 2014 1:55 pm EDT

Use this link to report secureinvestment scam to Interpol. I lost all my life savings and hope Interpol can track these ### down. http://www.interpol.int/Contact-INTERPOL