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Florida 03/12/2009: I worked for this company for over 6 months. They truly are a SCAM. They have changed their name well over 3 times and it's just funny how it happens when they have this BIG problem with people's paychecks. They go by 2020 communications now.I saw a lot of people get promised a lot of things and got nothing. Well over 10 reps were owed THOUSANDS of dollars. The company kept coming up with excuses as to why the money wasn't there. This happened for well over 6 months until finally people just gave up and started quitting.

Pay: It wasn't bad at first, until people started getting short changed out of their paychecks without explanations. Then the commissions got smaller. They take money out for uniform items you never see, for example shirts, I was only issued 3 and was charged for 8.
Respect: I have none for the company as they have no respect or consideration for their reps or families. But, they say they take care of their own...HA !
Benefits: there are none. Everything is on your dime
Job security: As long as you meet your quota you are fine. God forbid you get bad turf or a place that has been covered by reps too many times before. They don't want to hear it.
Work/Life balance: You have no life, especially if you become a General Manager. They work you from sun up to sundown and sometimes expect you to come in 7 days a week. As a rep you work 6 days a week and you better be knocking on that last door by 8:59 pm. What kind of response do you think we get? I barely saw my family while working there.
CAreer potential/Growth: Ask any General Manager, you can get promoted, but you have to be part of the good old boy network. Once you are promoted they look for the smallest thing to fire you.
Location: Not bad if you live nearby, however, the territory you cover could be an hour away...and you better still be knocking at 8:59 PM
Coworker competence: A fair amount of people that don't need to be selling FiOS
Work enviroment: It's like a cult in there. Sometimes it gets scary. You have to show false motivation and hope they bite. They MAKE you say and do some of the most stupidest things I have ever seen in my life.

I didn't get fired, I quit after over 6 months. I stayed that long because I needed the money. In my short time there I saw a lot of bad things happen and wonder how this people are still in business. I honestly think someone needs to investigate these jokers..., If it ever happens, don't interview the people that are there now, Talk to the ones that are out of there I guarantee 100% you will get the same story from all of them. Anyone thinking about working with them, PLEASE DON'T DO IT ! you will regret it. ...if there is anyone out there reading this that can do something about it PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE start a thorough audit/ investigation. These people need to be stopped !

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runforyourlife
US
Jun 07, 2010 9:29 am EDT
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GEORGE! Your being called out!

I know you read this. What do you have to say for your self? Another criminal working for a bunch of criminals.

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Flaming Fallica
Lexington, US
Jun 08, 2010 9:34 am EDT

George Fallica you f-ing thief! I would love to beat the [censor] out of your flamingly gay [censor]! You are going down!

please see photo I posted for identification purposes. He is a gay looking as this...but with [censor] tits.

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timhudson22
Seattle, US
Jun 10, 2010 1:02 pm EDT

http://newscenter.verizon.com/press-releases/verizon/2007/verizon-redefines-fast-with.html

Verizon can't stop talking about how good 2020 has been for them. This company is real and you can make some decent cash if your lucky to get the job.

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runforyourlife
US
Jun 10, 2010 3:02 pm EDT
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Tim Hudson

You are an idiot.

If you knew how to read then you would see that they are talking about 20/20 internet speed. Damn dude.

You would be lucky to get any job with those reading skills. No way VZ ever mentions 2020 companies.

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upyours2020
Valley Stream, US
Jun 15, 2010 9:27 pm EDT

So George Fallica, what do you have to say? You stole so much money from the reps in Mellvile, Long Island office. How does a convicted felon be allowed to work for 20 20 Companies. Maybe someone will drop a dime on you and let Bill Rowland aware of your mile long record! Your a total dirtbag and belong back in jail!

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f2020
US
Jun 17, 2010 3:28 pm EDT
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i just got back from the interview they had set up and i was supposed to go right away to a lab to do a drug test. i decided that i was going to go home and eat and change before i went to the lab and something got me thinking. i googled 2020 companies scams and sure enough this came up. i read all three pages and decided that im not even gunna go for the drug test. i did that stupid application thing they make u do at the interviews and i was wondering if anything i signed was binding. please god i hope its not. the hype and promises of big money clouded my judgment and common sense and now that i had time to think for myself i can see the truth.

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Felony Fallica
Piscataway, US
Jun 21, 2010 11:07 pm EDT

There is nothing binding you. I am so happy that you decided to google 2020 prior to doing anything else. Thats what we are trying to get everyone to do before they decide to take a job. Any company that doesn't ask for a resume, doesn't give you a formal job offer, and the fact that they do not actually employee you, HAS NO VESTED INTEREST IN YOU! 2020 THRIVES ON ROBBING PEOPLE. What office did you interview in?

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f2020
US
Jun 25, 2010 2:11 pm EDT
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Rancho Cucamunga CA. The GM there looked like a [censor]. A couple of days ago I read some of the stuff in the packet they gave us and the thing that caught my eye the most was the importance of the salesman or whatever. What a ******* joke that was! These people need to be charged with theft and arrested.

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chrissser
Houston, US
Jun 28, 2010 2:09 pm EDT

I currently work for 2020 right now.. anybody know anything about Chad Chappie? He's promised me a job halfway across the county, they are supposed to fly me out there and pay for my hotel for a month.. before i leave, just wanna know if anybody has had experience with chappie? Thanks

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runforyourlife
US
Jun 29, 2010 8:06 am EDT
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Chrissser

I dont know this Chappie guy but here is my experience with 2020 as it relates to this jobs in other markets. Be prepared to share a room, stay in a cheap [censor] motel, and have a hell of a time commuting to turf. Get all of this in writing before you go. Also, dont fall for the "use your own cash and we will reimburse you". You will never see your cash. Good luck with the move. Of all of the out of market moves I would say about 15% of them workout. Either the market sucks balls or campaign goes to hell.

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FALLICATAKESITUPTHEASS
gnome, US
Jun 30, 2010 9:45 pm EDT

Run for your life. That is my advice

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We luv haters.com
Hobo, US
Jul 10, 2010 12:19 pm EDT

Complainers, complainers. The company has thousands of people making over $45k. Hundreds making over $75k and over 100 making $100k plus.
If you didn't get paid you sold wrong, if you complained on changed comp welcome to contract business. Things change. Ultimately. The people who complained were not good enough. Sorry get on with that $30k a year job 9-5 no growth BS JOB(just over broke).
We love you

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luv u haters sucks moose penis
south hampton, US
Jul 12, 2010 2:00 pm EDT

We luv you haters,

First of all, throw yourself of a F**King bridge. You are so full up S**t that if you stuck your own head up your [censor], you could hear your large intestine work overtime as it produces [censor]! I can't wait to hear about the results of pending lawsuits, and hope 2020 companies, communications, etc, etc(because you guys have to change your name every years so that you can continue to fool people), and find out that you guys were shut down. Just wait. You will get yours. Warren Buffet chose not to purchase 2020 companies most likely because he heard stories of your epic robbing of people. You employ convicted felons! People making more than 45k a year are probably taking it up the poop chute from George Fallica, or someone similar. There are so many people out on a mission to get you guys shut down, its simply a matter of time. By the way, F**K you, and I hope you burn in hell.

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RowlandIsALiar
US
Jul 12, 2010 3:10 pm EDT

Basically...

The company is a big POS. I had a lot of buddies get into the company when it was first kicking off and they made a boatload of cash but once the initial gold rush was done, it was d0ne. My first 3 months weren't too bad. The only reason for this is because I am a good looking guy, smart, and well spoken. I knew all the lingo and everything about the company is just a pyramid scheme being funded by Verizon and AT&T's fiber optic investment.

You don't get any type of base pay, purely commission. With that in mind, they have no investment into you what-so-ever. The meetings were just the same BS sales tactics spewed over and over. Basically teaching (most the people in these offices were males 18 - 21. This age group is the easiest people to influence and mold into what you want them to be. In other words, brainwash.) these sales reps to lie or bend the truth to get these people to sign up. The worst was when they actually encouraged us to TRICK elderly people into thinking it was just a common upgrade and had to be done.

In my 8 months with the company I was a top seller even though I was working turf that had been hit at least 10 other times, was 75% non-english speaking neighborhood, or when it started getting dark I felt like I may be in danger. Sure, there were some weeks that I made about a grand for that weeks sales, and I got a couple cash bonuses from Rowland's golden child, Cailin (sp?). Towards the end after promises for 8 months of NEW TURF, the checks started being short. I talked to all of my superiors (including buddies from way back) and they all seemed to either be as concerned as I was, or just tried to dilute my worries.

Either way I quit and have never looked back. Any company that expects you to work about 50 hours a week, with no base pay, no vacation time, no insurance... basically nothing but what you make for yourself is a crock of [censor].

DONT WASTE YOUR TIME ON 2020.

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squibbles
Albuquerque, US
Jul 14, 2010 1:08 pm EDT

I worked at this same company. In fact, the same building even. I paid hundreds of dollars in gas in a few short weeks because they say you get 300 dollars after your training. That changed to "if you make 2 sales in your first week in the field. I got done training on a friday and they said my week would be up on sunday night. I won't lie and say i wasn't brainwashed, because i was. The chants they make you do in there make you feel like a real team, getting you pumped for the day, but when you don't make sales, you can see the fear in everyone's eyes. Don't join this company.

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AxisRob
Tampa, US
Jul 18, 2010 6:54 am EDT
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I worked for 2020 Companies for 2months for Their New Vonage Program . My manager had other people around the mall taking pictures of me without my knowledge (which is illegal) anytime I took a break or went to get a a drink or food. That is the best part. To start I was told in my interniew that I would be working in a store, When I get there its a kiosk. I was told that I will just wait for customers to come in and close them, they wanted me to approach everyone that walked by, even jumping in front of them to make them stop. I was told that the minimum commision that could be made was $1000 a month, I was top producer for the two months I was there and the most I made was $280. The constant lies and management forcing their religious beliefs on me and violating my privacy and civil right via taking my picture caused me to resign my position. Please do your research before entering into employment with this company, I wish I did.

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DocnoT
Sarasota, US
Jul 27, 2010 8:26 am EDT
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Thank you to all who complained...
I just responded to an ad in the local paper. Fortunately I got the voice mail and company name or I may have fallen into the same trap. Lord knows that is the last thing I need right now.

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THE-MAN-WITH-THE-PLAN
Long Beach, US
Aug 15, 2010 3:08 am EDT

some of this is funny true and exaggerated i also worked at 2020 for about a year and a half and was TRULY A TOP SALES REP! (TOP 1% IN THE NATION) i was getting between 20-30 SALES A DAY! averaging about 120-150 sales a week making about 1500+ a week! i worked as a rep GM and all the Lil [censor] titles between that honestly it is a good job "THAT U HAVE TO WORK HARD AT WHICH I DID AND IT SHOWED THROUGH MY SALES!" BUT THERE IS SOOOOOOO MUCH BULL [censor] FAKE CORPORATE WORLD POLITICS! that it is a headache to work and actually perform i personally ended up fired because of he say she say [censor] that truly was not my fault but by the time they came at me with these [censor]ed accuses i just blew up on them and didn't care anymore it was like a breathe of fresh air for me! although i was truly in the very top 1% of HIGH PERFORMING REPS i had to go through so much [censor] and HATERS! like most of the people writing on this comment post till i was just done i reached a point of not caring anymore...everyone saying im committing fraud and all types of false stuff even coming from my GM and RM(i can kinda understand why the gm and rm were on my head seeing i was making more than my gm at the time i know this because i was a gm and went back down to a sales rep and i became a bit COCKY! but hey i was performing and talking and walking to show that i was the man to BE/BEAT! so that partly my fault) till i just cant explain how stressed that made me dealing with all that day after day...YESS alot of people did SEEM to get screw'd at times but i don't know if that is true and YESSS A WHOLE LOT MORE PEOPLE WERE STRAIGHT LAZY BUMS! COMPLETE LAZY BUMS! see my secret to all them sales was (i worked inside a Verizon store) i didn't spend half my work hours trying to get the greeters number or try and be best friends with everyone in the store i actually worked from clock in to clock out! there was not one person that would enter that store i didn't talk to, SO IN CLOSING if u didn't work half as hard as i did(and i promise none of you made anywhere near as much money as me and if u think i'm lying ask anyone in the California retail store or just read this Lil post off to them they'll remember!) don't complain and put your 2 weeks in if it sucks so bad EVERYONE WANTS A [censor]ING HAND OUT! LAMES...and now I WORK FOR NO ONE! GOT MY OWN BUSINESS STARTED and as the OLD BLACK PHILLY MAFIA WOULD SAY "DO FOR SELF"

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luv2020
US
Aug 17, 2010 12:42 am EDT
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2020 is like the best job I had everyone is really nice, and all they want is for everyone to be successfull! For everyone hating on this company is because you worked for them and you guys are just lazy to go to work! Yes it's all commission but all you do is walk around and the heaviest thing u carry is a binder and its easy to make like a $1000 a week if you really wanted to... THIS IS THE BEST COMPANY THAT PAYS SO GOOD ON COMMISION!

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fcukjasoncocks
Brooklyn, US
Aug 26, 2010 12:06 pm EDT

for those who have facebook, like this!

http://www.facebook.com/pages/2020-companies-ruins-lives/111304115562784?ref=search

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The2020Truth
US
Aug 27, 2010 3:50 am EDT
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This slander effort is led by Danny Roldan - a consipracy theorist.

He spends his time with www.wearechange.org and other ridiculous efforts to "call out criminals". Most of these efforts result in these guys walking home with their tails between their legs due to finding no truth behind said claims.

20/20 Companies is a quality organization led by incredible people. My experience with them over 4 years gave me the skills I needed (and the capital) to achieve my long-term goal in half the time - owning my own business.

The ignorance many of you display will only appeal to people of equal ignorance and immaturity. For the educated and well-mannered - give 20/20 a shot if you want world-class training and a lucrative income opportunity.

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dfc2020
LH, US
Sep 09, 2010 8:47 am EDT

Ive worked at 20/20 for a little over a month... the paychecks can be small at times but I havent seen any tampering with them.. I just didnt go out and make sales one week.. Maybe in different markets the management is terrible but in mine it's a pleasure to work with these people. I just got promoted to GM about 3 days ago and so far so good...

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Nobodysaiditwaseasy86
Huntington Station, US
Sep 20, 2010 6:53 pm EDT
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Gonna keep it short and sweet, i've been with the company 1year, when I got lazy my checks sucked, when I worked hard I got paid hard, not once did I not get paid on an order that didn't cancel, the rare time it did happen my GM appealed it and I was paid the following week, it's far from an easy job, but when I was coming up short on rent, my director wrote me a $1000 check and said keep it, don't wry bout it, that's a company that cares for it's people, but there's alot of slackers outthere, and if u are one of them and wantto get rich quick, don't work here, if u want to work hard and know that anything worthwhile is tough and u have to fight for it, u can do great at 2020, my check last week was $1900, for one week, haters are gonna hate, and I will let them hate, they can hate me as I drive past in my brand new Audi I just bought thanks to 2020

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NewLawyer
Cleveland, US
Sep 20, 2010 7:21 pm EDT

I actually moved to California from Ohio after graduating from college to work for 2020. I was not told the job involved D2D sales. The actual job involved selling Uverse for ATT and trying to get ppl to bundle their phone/cable/internet... not exactly the job I imagined after graduating with a college degree. Even the job for ATT was a scam. The installation was not really free, all of the HD channels were extra, etc. I quit after a week because even the top sales guy wasn't getting paid what he should have and he was broke. I never did see any check from the 2 deals I had. I moved because a lot of promises were made to me and my fiance. But once I got out there I found out that it was all lies. My advice, if they promise you anything... get it in writing. I was promised training to be a manager. What I got was a bunch of lies and a bunch of debt for moving across the country. I blame myself for being too trusting. Do not make the same mistake. All of the success stories are exaggerated, if it sounds too good to be true, it usually is.

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FCK2020
Hauppauge, US
Oct 03, 2010 12:01 am EDT

The2020truth-you are a idiot. The invalid charge backs on your prelims is proof that this operation is A BUNCH OF THEIVES. You ask your GM about them and they do nothing. There is no appeals process for these charge backs. Somtimes sales you made do not even show up on your prelims. You get shafted on your hard work and the company steals your commission. THEY ARE WORLD CLASS FELONS WHO ROB YOUR MONEY. THE2020TRUTH YOU ARE A TOTAL [censor]!

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Garan
Hudson, US
Oct 20, 2010 7:09 pm EDT
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I have read all of your comments. All that have a problem with the company seem to be sales reps. I applied for a job in Tampa for Field Sales Administrator. I would appreciate any feed back on what has happened to the current person who had this position and how is the company towards Administration.

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SeanFrye
Santa Rosa, US
Oct 23, 2010 12:44 am EDT
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When I first started doing door to door sales, I worked for Outcome Outsourcing and was contracted to sell Comcast door to door. The CEO of Outcome Outsourcing was a former employee of 20/20 Companies. He is a big success story out of 20/20 companies.

His corporation he started after all the money he made from 20/20 has opened several markets now. Not all markets have been successful, but they are going strong. Outcome Outsourcing is selling Comcast in Utah, formerly selling Comcast in the North Bay where I was, opened a new market 5 months ago selling Time Warner Cable in southern Cal and Illinois. The only market for Outcome Outsourcing that was not successful was the Comcast market up here in the North Bay, but the CEO there got me and the very very very few employees he left in his north bay market an opportunity to apply for 20/20 companies in their brand new North Bay market selling AT&T U-Verse. And almost all of us got the job.

I wasn't very successful selling AT&T U-Verse for 20/20 Companies, but the work environment there was great. The employees were awesome and they were people. I've talked to them while we aren't on the job. They were cool to hang out with.

My GM who was Justin who came from the Verizon Fios market in southern Cal was a very cool headed guy. I could tell him a problem I'm having related to work and he'll understand and try to address the issue. I noticed someone in this forum commenting that they were going to meet with Justin, back when he was in the Fios market in southern Cal. He is back in southern Cal doing Fios again and trust me, he is a good manager to work for.

I enjoyed the optimism and encouragement of my coworkers and managers. They do want you to succeed. They are very honest. They don't try to manipulate you to keep the job. I was even asked by one of my GM's if I even wanted the job. Does that sound like trying to reel someone in? I didn't think so. He asked me that question when I got really lazy on a day and knocked like 5 doors which pretty much guarantees making no sales. You got to knock at least 30 on a bad day, but on a day where you are successful, 25 doors is acceptable with the slow order processing of AT&T U-Verse.

Now they do hype a lot of things, like the companies they are contracted to sell for, but this is a very high class and honest corporation. They really do want their employees to be successful. It helps the company grow. The only money that is taken back ever is not even taken from your paycheck by 20/20. It's the company that they are contracted for. You are paid as soon as you make the sale, but if the customer decides to cancel before the install date, then you get a small percentage of your money taken back by AT&T or Verizon. Whoever you are working for. But, it really is a matter of what the deal is on the contract between 20/20 and the company they are selling for. When I sold Comcast for Outcome Outsourcing, I wasn't paid until the product got installed the customer's house so if they canceled the install, I didn't get paid at all. It all depends on the company you are contracted for.

I quit this job after 2 months, but I have no complaints towards 20/20 Companies at all. When I was successful, the pay was good. I actually had a week where I made no sales until the last 2 days of the week. Friday and Saturday I made 2 sales each. 4 sales for the week. Over $500 was made right there for just 2 days of sales. Now obviously, if 2 days of getting 2 sales a day is worth $500+, imagine how much you'd make if you sold 2 every day of the week? If you know you have what it takes to sell the AT&T U-Verse product up here in the North Bay, then go for it. Otherwise, don't. Simple as that.

I was very successful selling Comcast for Outcome Outsourcing, but it took a few months to get successful. As for AT&T U-Verse, the procedures I had to follow I found made it more difficult to sell and more time consuming, causing me to knock on fewer doors than I should. My complaints will never be towards 20/20 Companies, but actually towards AT&T. I didn't find the pricing of their products to be fair. The Comcast product was much cheaper and I found it easier to sell.

But, I had some coworkers who were definitely very successful at selling the AT&T U-Verse product up here in the North Bay, so it's also a matter of how motivated you are, how much you believe in the product(I didn't believe in the U-Verse product cuz I had it before and there were some big turn offs for me, like having to interrupt someone's TV in order to watch a program on your TV. The only thing I liked was DVR working in other rooms and recording 4 shows at once.), and how good you are at presenting yourself to people and talking to people.

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always the truth
Commack, US
Oct 27, 2010 4:07 pm EDT

The company 20/20 companies or 20/20 communications they changed the name I think because of the law suites is a MLM scam I know 1st hand that it is all about busting the reps down or break them as they say so they have you where they want you. they break your spirt 1st then keep you going all day with the promise of more so you don't have time for anything including yourself or family. I was trained by a guy cosmos that forged peoples signatures on the paperwork and never got caught. I know 3 managers that were fired for doing exactly what the company told them to do now one had to move to conneticut because of all the trouble another of my managers was told to go to Chicago and was left hung out to dry there he spoke up and not with the company I just saw another guy who was working like a dog get fired because he didnt want to not see his family anymore. I quit today this company sux and I cant stand to be part of it anymore. I dont know about all the areas but under jerimy faris or the vp DJ seeter i know they only look for people who they can manipulate and promise the world then drain them like a tic or flea.

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Theyscrewedmetoodangit
Centerville, US
Oct 29, 2010 6:34 pm EDT
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I was a General Manager for 6 months. I worked hard and made over 1000$ per week consistently while I was in the Utah market for Outcome Outsourcing.
Then they moved me out to Northern California, we started having lots of problems with people getting paid, and even more problems with the client.
That's when they moved me down South to Cox, we stayed in Orange County for a few weeks and had a rough time, kept getting yelled at to produce, and then they moved us to the Santa Barbara market, and everyone that worked there, did great for the first week, then as we were going through turf, found out a lot of it wasn't accessible. This wasn't a valid excuse, and we got yelled at constantly. We were told to be knocking doors 8am to 9pm, not including paperwork, only 1/2 hour lunch, and a couple 5 minute breaks. We were constantly threatened to lose our jobs, and then we ran into more turf that had been burned. Literally, there was a huge fire in that area the previous year, and the phone service we were attempting to sale, had failed. 3 out of 5 people would deny us based on the fact their home phones didn't work, or their neighbors home phones didn't work. Again, this was not a legitimate reason to not be making sales, and we were yelled at constantly. Our quota was 10 customers per day, so unless we hit that, we were constantly yelled at. When I quit because of the undue stress, I had around 12 to 15 customers in my queue to be installed, and was expecting around a 500-600$ paycheck from them, and have yet to see that paycheck, and it's now been 4 1/2 months. I also requested my holdback account (which is the 10% they take out in case someone cancels) a month ago, and have yet to hear hide nor tail from them. If it continues down this path, the attorneys they work with (Inhouse Consulting Group) will be contacted, as I was their sales manager for their credit repair department, and we will attempt to negotiate these issues out of court, if not, I will be bringing charges against them.

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justanotherperson
US
Oct 31, 2010 5:38 pm EDT

I agree with all this. I worked for this company for close to 6 months myself a few years back. They had me traveling to different states opening new markets promising GM role, yet I never received it. After getting all the "cancellations" on my commission report, I started touching base with some only to find out that 3/5 never cancelled their services What did 2020 do, nothing, they said submit a report and we will contact the client, time passed with no response. After quiting and having to file bankruptcy. I was contacted by a few former employees I worked with about a lawsuit, keep in mind 2 of these were my GM's at the time that kept telling me, "you will get your money, I swear". The funny thing is, after sending an email about contacting a laywer copying my manager, regional director, and 2 contacts at corporate. They somehow found a few of those errors. At the end I was still out almost 3-5k. I never pursued the lawsuit, which may have been a mistake. To put the icing on the cake almost a year and 2 months later. I received a check in the mail for $1.63. I couldnt help but laugh, I take it to just deposit into my account. When I got there, the banker asked when I received the check and I told them the day before. They showed me the date on the check which was dated 8 months prior and the bank said they could not deposit it because it was so outdated. I never moved and 2020 had the same address from when I worked there. Talk about snail-mail. This company is such a joke. I worked for another marketing group just this past year and the ower and upper staff worked for 2020. With their contacts still at 2020 found that one of the clients did find an error and was not paying reps for a certain product being sold. They received a check for 150k to cover the error for all the reps. Needless to say that money never left Corprates hands. Just another dirty comp with bad business practices

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2020loser
Massapequa, US
Nov 15, 2010 3:03 am EST

I worked for these losers for 6 months in the Bellmore, NY office. I never got paid correctly on every pay period. They charged me back on on half my sales claiming the orders were cancelled. I called every sales and the customer informed me the installer was there and the job was completed. I went to the 2 clowns that run this office, Sal Cuso and Chris Cochran and they promised I would be paid. I NEVER SAW THE MONEY. THESE 2 clowns work over new people they hire and clip the money. Some how they have a connection in the main office in Texas have the orders paid to them and charge back the reps who make the sale. These jerks are 2 young punks who promose you the world and rob your commisions right from under you. After 6 months I quit and plan on retaining a lawyer to recoup my money owed. DO NOT WORK FOR THESE 2 [censor]S. THEY BOTH HAVE CRIMINAL RECORDS AND STEAL FROM HARD WORKING SALES REP.

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billrowlandrapes
Chino, US
Nov 23, 2010 4:55 am EST

THEY ARE CORRUPT anyone who disagrees i will re post after the I.e. lawsuit is over and i have at least 1, 000 bucks ...type in 20 20 com. lawsuit and you can research what type of illegal activity they take part in

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cu67676
Tampa, US
Dec 04, 2010 11:23 pm EST

ok now everyone i am an employee of this so called "HORRIBLE COMPANY" and if u actually think vabout all these people they all got "FIRED" it is common knowledge and what does a person do after they get fired? THEY GET MAD AT THERE SCREW UP AND TAKE IT OUT ON THE COMPANY" and also think about this i have three kids and a fourth on the way i have been with the compoany for 5 yrs have i became a manager no i dont want management yet but someday yes. Ya sure hours suck but what makes up for hours? knocking on the [censor]ing doors duh if u can talk to people u can make sales and good confirmed installs now ya ive seen a bad check who hasnt in any business its just human mistake or error if u will. AS for everything else they got fired and r just pissed off and to the justin complaint you know everyone has something bad happen in there family if u would have actually sat inside someone would have filled in for him o wait i was suppose to interview u i am well was on his team now im in his org. he has since been promoted to regional so thank u for ur idiasy and yes it is a real word look it up thank u and in my five yrs with 2020 i have bought a house and three cars CASH! my paychecks r close to 2k a week so if you r actually offered a job be smart and at least talk to some people who r currently working for them and ask to look at the checks and i gaurentee u will see all the lies but i have said all i have to say thank you for your time

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perfectlypleased
Keller, US
Dec 11, 2010 12:57 am EST
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I've been working for 20/20 Companies for three years now and would like to offer my opinions just based on what I have seen. I don't have company approval to write this, so please just know that everything in here is what I personally have witnessed and my opinion of the situation only.
1. 20/20 Companies pays its agents and managers on everything that its clients pays them on. If you were ever not paid for a deal, it was because 20/20 wasn't either. In the vast majority of cases, this is because the client said that it was not a good sale (never installed, often the customer stands them up), or because the proper paperwork wasn't turned in for the sale accurate and complete and made the sale unable to be verified.
2. My hours are crazy, as are most people's. I work long arduous hours, but I get paid well to do it. I could work a lot less hours and make a lot less money if I chose to. If you are looking for an easy buck, this is not the way to go about it. If you find the way to go about it, please let me know.
3. Yes, most people are very young. Most positions are entry level and 20/20 typically only promotes from within, so they don't really have positions for more experienced persons except in the corporate offices. 20/20 is a place for people to develop skills and abilities and then either progress with us or take those skills into their next job. 20/20 doesn't expect that people will do this forever and there aren't enough management jobs for everyone.
4. 20/20 doesn't employ support staff such as receptionists at all of the 40+ local offices across the country because it is not necessary to and is a waste of money. 20/20 has about 130 people approximately at our corporate office (yes, including a receptionist!) that run Operations centrally so that we can do it the most efficient way possible. If 20/20 hired people in every office just to be secretaries, it would increase overhead costs and decrease what can be paid out.
5. 20/20 pays its agents a defined percentage of every sale. The contracts do not include residual income in any door to door campaign that I am aware of. If the agent gets paid up front, once it is because 20/20 Companies got paid up front, once. I only know of a couple campaigns that have any residual income and in those cases the companys shares residual income with the reps just like it does any upfront payments.
6. If there was a decrease in the amount of money you were paid on a product, it was most likely because the client company decreased it's compensation to 20/20. I have never seen the company arbitrarily reduce what it pays to the agents as we all know that the people out there working in the field are the lifeblood of this!
7. If you were charged for apparel and did not recieve it, you should be pissed because that is not right, and there are plenty of people who want to help make sure you get what you paid for. Door to door sales agents are Independent Contractors because if they were regular employees we would have to hold out taxes and in some states even pay by the hour. Hourly wages do not work in this environment because there is no way to ensure that someone is working the hours they are supposed to. The company can't have a manager within sight of reps at all times, and everyone knows someone who said they were going out to work and actually went home, or to run errands, etc. There is no way for 20/20 to know that and we can't pay people by the hour if they aren't working.
6. If you saw something unethical happen, message boards such as this are not the only place to voice your concerns although I completely respect your right to voice your opinion and experiences! 20/20 has an extemely professional HR staff who investigates every single claim fully. If you feel you are owed money, contact the company with whatever documentation you have and they will research it, period. If you email them and say that you are owed money with no details, no paperwork and nothing else to go on, you can't honestly expect that they will be able to hire a forensic accountant to dig through the hundreds of thousands of sales that have been made to find yours. If you weren't wise enough to keep track of YOUR business, I don't see how you can expect someone else to figure it out for you.

Like I said, all of this is my opinion based on what I have seen. I've worked in a couple different departments within 20/20 and on the programs for several different clients. I would be lying if I said mistakes weren't ever made and that all of these people are liars. They are not liars. I would venture to say that all of these people ran into these issues at one point or another, but that the context of that is what is being misinterpreted. I have never seen the leadership and decision makers at 20/20 ever make a decision that was to screw someone else... far from it. Businesses change and sometimes the clients negotiate new contracts when their old contracts expire. When that happens, they always try to get more for less money. In those cases, sometimes that means the company has to take a little less for the same amount of work to make sure we all still have jobs. Those same clients tell us what sales they are going to pay the company on and what they aren't, and typically for good reason. Legit sales that are approved by the clients are paid, sales without the proper paperwork filed and that cannot be confirmed are not paid to 20/20 or the agent. It's a hard game, and not for everyone. But, there are lots of people out there who are supporting their families and working very hard to do it, including myself at this company who actually have found a lot of things to love.

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kendavidson
Clearwater, US
Dec 12, 2010 7:30 pm EST
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I work for 2020 and have found management to be nothing but caring and helpful. While there are pay issues at times, I have found that they are no more than any other sales position. I would highly recommend 2020 to someone who wants to work hard and be rewarded for that hard work.

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Dreamkiller
Dallas, US
Dec 18, 2010 12:31 am EST

Shut up the President is a Jack [censor] what kind of man hold a motivational speaking seminar and Yes at a kid because he is not chanting his dumb as chants, then proceeds to tell the kid to get on top of the table and chant it if he wants to work for the company or he can leave. The kid walk out! Good for him because a lot of the little drones are sucked into the hype. True story Dallas Texas 2006

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FCK 2020
US
Jan 09, 2011 3:23 am EST

Again 20 20 never ceases to amaze me and still allowed to be in business. At our Long Island office in Bellmore, at Christmas and New Years we all recived our pay checks we all shorted and charged back. We all received either a negative check or a measley $50. The company claims they advanced us the money and took it back. What a crock of [censor]. If you review all of these reviews they all have one thing in common. NOT GETTING PAID CORRECTLY. WHEN YOU WORK FOR A MARKETING COMMPANY WITH A PYRAMID SCHEME, THE PEOPLE AT THE TOP ARE TAKING THE MONEY. SALES ARE NOT WHERE THERE AT SO THE BOSSES AT THE OF THE PYRAMID TAKE THE MONEY. Our checks should have been 1k and up and this is how this company says Merry Christmas and Happy New Years. I would not be surprised if someone goes postal and blows all these M/F away.

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mrbigh
West Babylon, US
Jan 13, 2011 6:34 pm EST

I was approached by one of your "door to door" salespeople (2020 Companies, LTD) with Verizon FIOS. I signed a contract for equipment and services that Verizon as a company is not complying with.
I contacted your sales man for help and rectification about this breach in contract with the provider (Verizon) but I can't get any help at all.
I will be obligated to escalate this transaction to the media for immediate release and made this problem to public knoledgment of all parties involved.
Sales and installation order# ...
HRC

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nowiseenitall
Arlington, US
Jan 21, 2011 1:49 am EST

i wish i did my homework and read this before spending the last month or so trying it out. huge waste of time. also they told me that when if i joined i would get a
$400 bonus check which turned out to be an complete lie. thanks for the good intention of trying to save my time, its good to know that i'm not the only victim of the social disease now fronting as 20 20 communications.

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runforyourlife
US
Mar 02, 2011 8:29 pm EST
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The ship is sinking. Word on the street is that leadership is leaving out of the wood work. Chris Green, Jordan Landsberg, and James Bonniwell all have exited the building. What a joke of company. For the peope who have listened to any of those guys preach about how great 2020 is, damn. I guess you can only eat, sleep, and breath [censor] for so long. For the small amount of success stories there are thousands of people who were lied to and cheated. The ship needs to not only sink, it needs to go down in flames. Of course after I get paid on phantom rejects. Still waiting...

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