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Florida 03/12/2009: I worked for this company for over 6 months. They truly are a SCAM. They have changed their name well over 3 times and it's just funny how it happens when they have this BIG problem with people's paychecks. They go by 2020 communications now.I saw a lot of people get promised a lot of things and got nothing. Well over 10 reps were owed THOUSANDS of dollars. The company kept coming up with excuses as to why the money wasn't there. This happened for well over 6 months until finally people just gave up and started quitting.

Pay: It wasn't bad at first, until people started getting short changed out of their paychecks without explanations. Then the commissions got smaller. They take money out for uniform items you never see, for example shirts, I was only issued 3 and was charged for 8.
Respect: I have none for the company as they have no respect or consideration for their reps or families. But, they say they take care of their own...HA !
Benefits: there are none. Everything is on your dime
Job security: As long as you meet your quota you are fine. God forbid you get bad turf or a place that has been covered by reps too many times before. They don't want to hear it.
Work/Life balance: You have no life, especially if you become a General Manager. They work you from sun up to sundown and sometimes expect you to come in 7 days a week. As a rep you work 6 days a week and you better be knocking on that last door by 8:59 pm. What kind of response do you think we get? I barely saw my family while working there.
CAreer potential/Growth: Ask any General Manager, you can get promoted, but you have to be part of the good old boy network. Once you are promoted they look for the smallest thing to fire you.
Location: Not bad if you live nearby, however, the territory you cover could be an hour away...and you better still be knocking at 8:59 PM
Coworker competence: A fair amount of people that don't need to be selling FiOS
Work enviroment: It's like a cult in there. Sometimes it gets scary. You have to show false motivation and hope they bite. They MAKE you say and do some of the most stupidest things I have ever seen in my life.

I didn't get fired, I quit after over 6 months. I stayed that long because I needed the money. In my short time there I saw a lot of bad things happen and wonder how this people are still in business. I honestly think someone needs to investigate these jokers..., If it ever happens, don't interview the people that are there now, Talk to the ones that are out of there I guarantee 100% you will get the same story from all of them. Anyone thinking about working with them, PLEASE DON'T DO IT ! you will regret it. ...if there is anyone out there reading this that can do something about it PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE start a thorough audit/ investigation. These people need to be stopped !

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Good Looking Out PPL
Melbourne Beach, US
Mar 28, 2011 5:40 pm EDT

I would just like to say thank you! I m in FL. The company called me this morning to set up an interview and so I did. I figured let me do my research so I can successfully BS my way through this interview, and I found this. So again Thank You, I won’t have to waste my time with them.

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former 2020
US
Mar 29, 2011 8:48 pm EDT

I'm surprise that vz and other companies do not run like hell!. This company is a IRS audit waiting to happen . Forcing people to attend meetings, return every evening, renting uniforms, call in to office all day, telling where to go and then to say they are independent contractors? That is incredible.

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John Re
Plainview, US
Apr 06, 2011 7:09 pm EDT

20 20 Companies are the biggest lying m/f in the world. Do not work them. Run as fast as you can cause they will pocket yout commission as fast as they hire you. Bogus cancells and they charge you back the commision after your sale is installed. They have no appeals process so you never recoup your money. Confirmed 5 sales were installed and they charged me back $563 in 1 week. Run for your life.

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LISTEN2MEPLEASE
US
Apr 27, 2011 4:59 am EDT

Summary of the Case
Our firm, Initiative Legal Group APC, is seeking to represent current and former California employees of 20 20 Powervision Ltd, 20/20 Communications, Inc. and 20/20 Companies (“20/20”) in a class action lawsuit entitled Lagaisse v. 20 20 Powervision Ltd, et al., Riverside Superior Court Case No. RIC528973. The Plaintiff has brought the lawsuit against 20/20 for:

charging unlawful fees to cash paychecks;
not reimbursing employees for business expenses;
taking unlawful wage deductions;
breach of contracts;
not paying all wages timely during employment and upon termination; and
unlawful business practices.
We believe that these are violations of California’s Labor Code, and we also believe that these violations occurred on a systematic basis to 20/20 employees.

If you worked at 20/20 at any time from June 19, 2005 until the present, and you believe your rights were violated as described above, or in any other way, please call us at 877.673.1318. Or, you can send us an email to 2020Lawsuit@InitiativeLegal.com and someone will get back to you soon. Be sure to give your name and telephone number, and the best time to reach you

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2020 employee
Akron, US
May 02, 2011 12:12 am EDT

Ive worked for the company for a while and love it..people get it tangled..it's sales...must I go into more info? Like selling kirbys or cars. It's all the same just selling something different. I just got back from a trip to Austin Texas, we went and built a office in four weeks have 10 reps and they all love it cause it's a great paying job. It's commission but what sales job isn't? You need it was sales when you started working there..you wasted your own time..but don't ruin it for people who want to try something new instead of fast food or spend thousands at college. And for people who have interviews set up go and see for yourself...do you listen to this people on here when they complain about the weather or gas prices? You make the decision ...I've made mine. I love it

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2020 employee
Akron, US
May 02, 2011 12:20 am EDT

O and pay checks? If ur making only 400 or lower... Get out of sales I made 750 to 1600 every week not including bonus checks from 2020 and the clients such as AT&T ..so if your check was that low no wonder you quit ...srry sales was not for you

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bigtex817
US
May 17, 2011 7:26 am EDT

Seems like the only thing people had in common was the lack of taking responsibility for ones self, laziness, integrity, mediocrity, stupidity, It's really sad. It's pretty cut and dry, if you don't SELL you don't make MONEY! People have the natural inclination to blame shift others. If something goes wrong surely it can't be my fault. This is a opportunity (not job) for those who have a positive, winning attitude. Those who can look through adversity and grab the bull by the horns and take charge of their paycheck will be successful. Those looking for "just another job" are sadly mistaken, and wasting their time. If you don't have a set of balls and want to live a mediocre lifestyle go get a job that doesn't require you to succeed. We need janitors, mechanics, fast food team members, ect. To those who wish to succeed and live the life they want more power to you!
God bless!

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alaksha7
Durham, US
May 19, 2011 7:46 pm EDT

Thank god i found this, they JUST sent me an e-mail to set up an interview. i will definitely not be calling them back.

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jdub909
US
May 21, 2011 6:41 pm EDT
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They are a joke.. they rip off employees require you to have no life. work every day 1-9pm mandatory meetings 3 times a week from 11-1pm. malke you drive as far as 60miles to turf and this is all out of your pocket. they ### up weekly on checks and give you ### deductions with no explanations. stay far away from this company.. i made over 7k in a two months from this company putting up with ### finally quit but ### is ###in hellstay far away and this ###in cult needs to be sued asap.

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jdub909
US
May 21, 2011 6:45 pm EDT
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fios king is a ###in ginger joke he is mike king a GM at the IE office...dudes a ### and benefiting from all of us

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mafiageek2180
Austin, US
Jun 10, 2011 10:49 pm EDT
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Thank you so much for saving me time and energy. I will NOT apply with them thanks to what I have read!

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Booger Dawson
Henderson, US
Jun 14, 2011 12:30 am EDT

Thanks for the heads-up! Good lookin' out!

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John Big Dog Re
US
Jun 15, 2011 3:42 am EDT

This just in. A New York court has awarded 1.2976 million dollars in a class action lawsuit for over 365 employees who worked in NY State. They were awarded this money due do illegal payroll deductions and several other infractions. So for all those ###s who state how great this company on this site, you should answer this questions: How can a NY State award this amount of money if 20 20 is such a honest company. They truth is 20 20 are a bunch of theives and stole money from hard working people who made sales and did not pay out on commisions. Nothing is worse than you ### 20 20 lovers who state that people complain on this site for not making money. The bottom line is we sales people made sales and did not get paid correctly. So ### 20 20 and they got what they deserved paying out 1.296 million to these emplyees.

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jdub909
US
Jun 26, 2011 8:06 pm EDT
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I want to post a apology on here directly to mike king for calling him vulgar names on a post. In reality all you people looking to get hired for verizon do so with caution. The company has its pros and cons. Yes if you looking for a quick buck and know how to sale you will do well. if not you are wasting your time they arent salary based .You need to invest your life 11am-till 10:00pm when you include going to post shift. so your hours are 11am-10pm monday-saturday. so people with social lives, sex lives, kids steer clear hahaha and be prepared to drive around to turf within 5miles or as far as 80miles.so you add up you total miles weeekly dude so have a gas efficent car and prepare to drive. When it comes to getting paid you getting paid correctly is up in the hour ive been shorted $100s of dollars from this company david muniz mike king dont give a ### they say they will get you money owed then they put your complaint tucked away and dont do ### as long as they are getting paid they dont give a ###. and the other team managers dont give a ### as long as you are making sales for them and they are getting there % cut from your sales percent. company sucks and i quit while i was ahead and stopped letting them weekly rape my pockets. enjoy the heads up people laaaaaate and good luck you will need it ### 20/20 they need to be sued educate yourselves people take my advice dont learn first hand and being naive trust me youngsters or concerned parents.

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jdub909
US
Jun 26, 2011 8:32 pm EDT
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oh and for girls wanting to do this job dont or be careful girls some of your turf can be in the ghetto slum neighborhoods and you must work it so stay safe walking around

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2020COMPANIES
US
Dec 17, 2011 3:14 am EST

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i wanted help
Beaumont, US
Apr 05, 2012 7:12 pm EDT
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i am one who was unemployed to start and i have been working now with them for 3 weeks and today is my last day i am ###ing done and all the facts here remain true with D2D sales at 20/20, over work and underpaid there were lots of promises made by this company 20/20 but most promises were not kept.
I have a degree in marketing and thought this would be a great chance to advance and use what i have learn in college but in order to advance with 20/20 you have to out sale your team . well i am in a area where they have already comb thew with bundles and triple plays etc so there are not any customers to sale to, i'm out till 8:00 in the dark every day 7 day a week looking for customers that are not there, I have had at lease 300 leads and all already have service so it a waist of my time doing this and going no where i guess i am the stupid one here because first i'm unemployed and using my own gas money to go out and try to fine people who don't have the service or that just want the up grades on what they currently have so i spent well over 400 bucks in gas doing this and haven't made one penny .going to a area that 45 miles away from my home...they never said i would have to pay money to make money hell I am unemployed to start and using my saving to try to make money...

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Rickkster123
hick, US
Apr 29, 2012 2:51 am EDT
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Wow this must be the complete loser page filled with those who never did anything for themselves to get to where everyone wants to be in life. I am currently a general manager of a top 5 team in the country. Before coming to this company I owned my own supermarket business and worked there from age 16 and owned it when I was 21 with my own money I saved through sweat, and long hours. I know what it takes to be successful in life. This is not a job, it's an opportunity. If you dedicate yourself and set personal goals you will succeed in this company. I've been with this company for less than 2 years and I'm on track to make well over 100k this year. Sales is constant rejection and is not for the weak who need someone to tell them what to do. I have full benefits and never have problems with my pay. If you want a regular job then go get one. I have always worked for myself and will continue to do so until the day I die. If you are among this country's elite 1%, self sacrifice is mandatory to get and remain their unless you are a trust-fund baby. So once again this is not a job, it is an opportunity for those that want to run with it. Good luck people, you have wasted enough of my limited time already.

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growmo
Tampa, US
Jun 08, 2012 6:23 am EDT

If you want a job go get one. I am ONLY looking to promote those who desire to get auto deposited fat checks for a profession that pays on time. If any of you cry babies could see the faces of my satisfied customers who are glad to have a real person offer them the best value for their TV Phone and Internet. If 20/20 were your company you wouldn't be sitting around on the Internet; you would be working every waking hour to negotiate for better pay for new representatives and training without detracting from the nominal hours spent in turf. Our directors work long hours for US>>>>>>>>> In this economy you'll be thankful you can pay your bills and have a flexible schedule if you have elderly parents or small children. How many of you are actually making $800 - $1500 like tons of 20/20 reps who are professionals. There is Verizon University Training Compliance Monthly and twice per year a unifying luncheon with Verizon officials. I can't answer all of your questions as I would love to see the best reps compensated with a salary plus commission g.m. position. Just consider what you would do if you owned 20/20 Companies and wanted to retain your most professional reps and g.m.s. I do know Verizon FiOS WILL ALWAYS be the best service available, so for now come see me if you aren't afraid of the sun and the rain and a few no's. I only want to interview people who have a good work ethic and a deep belief they should respect the company they work for and the product they represent.

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concerned1964
cary, US
Aug 16, 2012 4:02 pm EDT

well 2020 is now point 180 in north carolina it was that bad goodness!

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Ernest Martinez
Colton, US
Dec 04, 2012 9:40 am EST

I had a interview in August with this company. I showed up 15 minutes early to a Starbucks in Redlands, Ca. I assumed the person I was meeting would be inside and she wasn't, I contacted the recruiter to ask if she was running late and the recruiter couldn't tell me anything but to hang on. I went inside the Verizon store next to the Starbucks they never even heard of her. Back inside Starbucks and nothing. My appointment was at 11 am and it was already 11:25 am. I called the recruiter she said she's there, as I looked around I didn't see anyone still. I was already to leave when she got to Starbucks. The interview didn't go well, she looked like she didn't care, was texting and looking at her laptop the whole time I was talking and then went on to ask me if being late was acceptable? Really

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ccoleman67216
Wichita, US
Mar 05, 2013 11:25 pm EST

well i have read through all of the posts on this topic. here is what i take from it all as a sales god in the telecom industry. post after post is filled with negativity and blaming someone else for their failure in this field. 20/20 is not the issue here at all period. if you had what it takes to make 2 to 3 sales a day neither 20/20 nor any other door to door company in america is gonna short your check or not make it right if there was an error period. who does it benefit to short you if you are a sales rockstar? all of you complaining should get up from your computers now and go to the restroom and look in the mirror. the person in the mirror is the person to blame period. either you did not put forth your best effort to make it or you never had what it took to make it. 20/20 and their clients gave you all of the tools to help you excel in this field. either you didn't have the stomach nor skillset to make it in this field. that doesn't mean you need to blame everyone else for your failure. go get another job and punch the clock, because sales is not for you, but don't feel bad, because sales is not for everyone and it is not easy or everyone in america would be doing it. admit you got in over your head in a field that you didnt have the people skills to make it in. stop the crying online because i can't give you a tissue on here. people have a big problem admitting that they failed, but it sounds so good to make it look like your failure was because of someone else. admit you got knocked down, get up, dust yourself off and move on because this horse you chose to ride was too big and out of your league. i could go pretend to be a doctor and i will most likely fail, but that would be my own fault, not the hospital where i was taught. i am about to be a new general manager with this company that so many have so much to say about and not one of you has changed my mind or made me second guess myself. do you know why? because i have been in this industry for years with another company and have an opportunity to spread my wings, but should i fail and i know i will not i have no one to blame except myself. 20/20 is one of the largest direct sales companies in the country. if you had a bad manager, then you should have reported it, not been a part of the after hours shanigans. 20/20 has a website that has a contact us tab on it, why didn't you report these issues. why didn't you scan your sales sheets and submit them to corporate so it could be corrected? as an independent contractor you have to take responsibility for those sales by keeping your records that you can always refer to to validate what you are saying. this is the real world, if the irs would have asked you to provide documentation what would you have done? let me guess, blamed someone else? exactly. time to grow up and be responsible for what you do. if i have 50 sales guess how many sales records i will have, you guessed it all 50. i guess michael jackson said it best "i'm talking bout the man in the mirror, i'm asking him to change his ways."

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