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I just completed the Golf Academy of America Associate's Degree program from the San Diego Campus. I discovered this "Siren" while I was in the military and stationed in San Diego. I was eager to finish my enlistment and pursue my new goal. I visited the campus a number of times, and was very interested in the "Titleist TPI analysis computer", which the staff reiterated many times over it was "one of 4 in the world." Not only that but I could use it whenever I wanted, and while attending the academy I would be a certified operator so that I could train other people on this very limited and exclusive hardware. Not to mention I could "play all the free golf I could." Needless to say, I left the military after 6 honorable years to attend the GAA San Diego Campus. The morning I was Honorably discharged I was down at the campus with all of my required, certified copied discharge paperwork (which includes highly sensitive info, personal and government) and my GI Bill paperwork. To make the admissions part of this story short, they lost this info 3 different times, which meant I had to obtain certified copies on 3 different occasions, which if you have ever had to obtain certified copies from the county courthouse, or the local government/military liason this is no easy task. Not to mention during my fourth semester at this campus the admissions office called me in to say they did not have a copy of my discharge paperwork in my file and they needed another certified copy. I thought this was a joke but she was not laughing. I was absolutely beside myself! The amount of personal info contained on this document is ... well... there is more than enough, not too mention to misplace this info on 4 different occasions is appalling.
Now back to the primary reason I came to this campus ... the "one of four in the world" TPI Analysis machine. The day of orientation I was trying to get on this thing but the staff was having nothing to do with it. They just told me wait until classes start. So classes have officially begun, so now we can do this ... or not. I was told by the instructor that it would not be available for 5 weeks. During this 5 week period I counted the utilization of the TPI Analysis 3 different times tandemly by intructor/student. And for the record, first semester scheduling is the heaviest as far as being there everyday of the week, so I may not have been there all of the time but the majority of the day I was (with exception to Mondays which is the tournament day and there is no school on mondays except for third semester students who have to attend a two hour long resume building class for the entire semester. Believe me it is more painful than it sounds not to mention it lets out one hour before your tournament round starts. If you have ever driven in cali, well you know how traffic is and to have only an hour to drive to a tournament round is ... well ... outlandish! Not to mention my pre-round warm-up greatly exceeds one hour. So that entire third semester you are breaking traffic laws and running through parking lots with your clubs and trying to eat your pre-round meal before you get to the tee. Not to mention this place is nazi with the rules of golf and if you havent checked in with the tournament committee 15 minutes prior to your tee time you are assessed a two stroke penalty and if you are not in your golf cart when its time to drive to your assigned tee you are DQ'd. You think this institution would see the entire picture and fix this but they choose to do nothing about it.
Getting back to the TPI, utilized only 3 times in a 5 week period. So finally the sixth week of the semester and I finally get a chance to get on this thing. I get there, Ive already warmed up for the analysis, about to attach the sensors and get hooked up to the monitor and the instuctor states, "you have not completed the 8 week TPI fitness program and in order for you to receive a swing analyis you need to complete this 8 week program. So you can get on the Titleist Performance Institute website and register and complete the program."
At this point I am completely befuddled. So I go home and register on the TPI website only to find out that I need to be evaluated by a certified TPI technician who evaluates balance, and flexibility, etc. This TPI tech was the very instructor who earlier that day told me I need to register myself on the website! At this point I am beyond words. Needless to say it was 2 more weeks until they gave a TPI evauation. So here we are beginning the 9th week of the semester and I only have completed the fitness assessment and now I may begin my 8 week physical workout programs. And since the semesters are only 16 weeks long, well by the time I complete my workout program it will be the start of the 2nd semester. So time passes and here we are, I've completed all the prerequisites for this TPI analysis. It's finally time! NOT! I show up for my swing analysis only to be told that the GAA's policy has changed and you now need to have 5 recorded individual golf lessons with the instructors. And by recorded I mean once you have completed a half hour lesson with an instructor you have to leave it up to them to record their notes into their database. Long story short, I ended up having to take 8 half hour lessons with various intructors. And due to time restraints and scheduling it only took me to the end of the third semester. Not to mention you got a different teacher every time. Whom really knew nothing about me except what was recorded on their database. All of these different teachers, different philosophies, or most time lack there of ... well my game suffered and I have never played so poorly in my life. All of this just for a swing analysis? Really?! I'v come this far right? What else could there possibly be? Well there was a lot more hurdles to jump throughout the semester and in the end I never did get on that machine because it just disappeared during the third semester. Ah-huh, but this is the best part. It was replaced by a gargatuane yellow training apparatus called the "Bender". This behemuth contraption took up 1/3 of the full swing hitting area only to sit there because no one on the staff was certified to work it. Nor could anyone really figure it out so it just sat there for my remaining 2 semesters at the GAA. Come to find out you can get on the Bender website and register and any one person can be certified online. Way to go Golf Academy of America Staff and affiliates.
Too touch on the academics (sigh) ... well I've witnessed 3 different teachers quit this place (there was the anatomy/physiology intructor who resigned with 2 weeks left in the semester, there was the club builder who quit and went back to work at Taylormade and that was 3 or 4 seeks into the semester. There was the Food and Beverage instructor, and the Accounting II instuctor but he was also the club builder (but we did not receive our books until the 9th week of the fourth semester, these books included a project which we were supposed to be creating the entire semester but because the staff misplaced this pallet of Accounting II projects in some hidden closet the students had to suffer and create this project in less than half of the allotted time. Keep in mind your entire grade is this project. Not to mention my instructor for Rules of Golf II lost my final. To shed some light on this event, Golf Academy of America requires you to stay there for the duration of the 2 hour classes. So during finals week even after you have finished you have to remain there. So the first hour the class took the final. The second part we would review and you would have an idea of how you did. So even though the finals were graded they were not recorded yet. meanwhile, they just sat in a pile on the empty table in front of the podium Well, this happened to be my last class so after I was going to the airport. Well I am about to board my plane and I get a call from my instructor who blantantly states, " where's your final? I don't have your final! Why would you just walk off with your final. I need to have it so I can turn it in before 5 pm. I dont understand why you would walk off with your final with out it being recorded?" I informed him I did not have it and why would you turn this around on me. Blah blah blah it turned into he said she said. So his resolution was to average all of my test grades together and that would be final grade. Well, to say the least I did not enjoy this class and in the beginning I did not put in any effort into the class so i was performing on a C level. But for this I actually prepared for the final because I wanted a B for the class. I know i was close to acing this final but because he wants to leave the entire class' final answers out on an open table unsupervised and not recorded, I suffer for it and end up with a sub par grade because of one incompetent instructor. This is the way of the Golf Academy of America. I can't believe I have written this much and I have just scratched the service but quite honestly I have never felt so betrayed. This place is not worth the $28, 000. Don't buy into the free golf either, on paper they will show you like 30 different courses but in actuallity you play like 5-6 different ones. Theres so many restrictions on all of the other courses. Not too mention tournaments are on Mondays. If you have ever been a member of a country club you know there is no play on Mondays because thats the recovery day from the heavy weekend play and thats the day the maintenance crews are out in full force. You can bet the course is in complete overhaul, heavy watering, seeding, repairing, tree cutting, mowing, blah blah. I cant count the times where my group has been ambushed by sprinklers activating, crazy miscellaneous sounds in backswings, standing water on greens, well you get the picture.
Believe me, all of these issues along with I'm sure a memoir, have been brought up to all the intructors, and all of the directors on campus. And after awhile you just hear the same standard damage control response. I'm not kidding I swear the staff has meetings and the campus dirctor tells them standard responses to say, and througout the day and throughout the week you will hear various members of the staff say the same quoted line, for example, "We want your experience here at the Golf Academy to be a good one". These guys are the kings at damage control and can dance around questions without giving you a direct answer. Once a semester the campus director would come into the class so that students could address issues. Except there were issues he would avoid or leave it up to someone else to anwer. These would get going on a pure simple yes or no answer but they would drag it out for a 5 minute response in hopes of creating a sidebar topic or just numbing your mind so you would forget what was asked in the first place. Our class called him on it, and well the campus director he never came back to talk with us in our 4th semester.
I can look at some of these comments that are pro Golf Academy and grammatically I could identify these people. I hope to see some responses from my comment and you can see for yourself the "Damage Control" and the subjective statements they create in response to my detailed statements.
And let this be known, they may say that this is a performance orientated acadmey, but their primary focuse is a business school and not a golf school. So if you are looking to improve your playability forget it. Not too mention the credits obtained from this school are non-transferable anywhere. The only school that these credits transfer to is Virginia College Online. So if you are looking to finish your Bachelor's well, look at the limited number of degrees that Virginia College Online has to offer, than make your decision. This place offers a clubbuilder certification (which you can do on your own for less than $300, they have a rules officiating certification, but you can do that through the PGA program for a considerably small amount of money and attending a couple of classes/seminars. They have self created an advanced teaching certification which I dont understand because these are students who have never given a lesson in their life but the GAA is calling them advanced teachers? And they in no way offer support or have programs that has anything to do with passing the PAT and getting you on your way if you want to be a PGA certified intructor. Even if you pass they will not reimburse or help you out with the $200 fees involved. They told me they had a PAT program and would assist in everyway possible. But once I got here it changed. Really ask yourself, is an a Associates' Degree, a Clubbuilding cert, a teaching cert, an apprentice rules official cert, the maybe 10 different courses you will play really worth $28, 000? Even though the GI Bill paid I would definitely save myself the trouble and go to a school where my credits would transfer instead of being forced to finish my degree through Virginia College Online where I cannot play golf and I could easily obtain those certs in a weeks worth of classes. But that's me.
I have put way too much time into this beastly comment, but that was only part of my experience and I hope it helps you in your decision making and helps you avoid the torment I have endured during my stay at the Golf Acadmey of America San Diego.

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kjeconfused
Helena, US
Nov 10, 2010 11:51 pm EST

WOW! I am in the process of registering to attend GAASD and since I read your comment I dont know what to think!? I visited the school in June, thought it was small but nice, there were not too many students around. Did you have any success in finding a job after you graduated? Also do you know how the student housing is? As in are they nice apartments or rundown dives? Thank you so much!

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radicaljim
Mission Viejo, US
Dec 28, 2010 9:06 am EST

I do not think he found a job buddy. If he was a happy a** golf pro, somewhere, he would not be complaining. You sound like you are in denial and really just want to believe that this program is real. It is not real! Did you hear him when he said nothing transfers to any other college? Go to junior college get units that will transfer. Take a golf class. If you feel like you are good enough, try out for a team. If you suck, go to a junior college with a ### golf team and you will play every day for free, with free instruction from a coach who probably knows what he is talking about. Or she if you are a chick. If you are some rich kid and need to do something for mommy and daddy, just go. You have your whole life to figure things out. But if you are experiencing growing pains and need to find your pathway, do what every other successful person in the world has done. Go to a real college and get a real education. It is not that hard. I did the military myself and thought I was the dummest kid on the planet when I attempted college before that. It takes practice, and possibly a few f's or d's. If you do not give up you will get good at things and get a degree eventually. You will then have options rather than option (not plural). You can always play golf but people do get discouraged when they get older when it comes to getting a degree. I am 26 and I already feel too old. I know people who are working on PHD's right now, my age. Go to school and get on a golf team. Then slap yourself.

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golfinginAZ
Chandler, US
Dec 28, 2010 9:32 pm EST

Hey Blazewun... funny how I have been able to use my degree for 10 years to help me land jobs in the golf industry and also improved my game from an 18 to an 5.7 while at GAA. I graduated with a lot of guys and most loved it and have great things to say about the program. There are always a few cry babies who blame others for their poor results. Radicaljm... I hope everyone gets the chance at such wonderful life advice! Please!

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LizardHead
Sedona, US
Jan 29, 2011 5:19 am EST
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@golfinginAZ...I am glad that you were able to parlay your education from GAA into something worthwhile. For some, it just isn't that cut 'n dry.
I think I would like to come play your facility. I have a place in Sedona and Estrella Mtn Ranch...lets play some golf!
Spot me a few strokes?

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quacksalot
Lincoln, US
Jan 29, 2011 5:04 pm EST

Blazewun, the reason the golf academy credits transfer to the virginia college is because they have the same owners. The GAA and the Virginia College are both owned by the Education CORPORATION of America. Many of the instructors have gotten their degrees from the organization they work for. I wonder why. So if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, it is probably a duck. The GAA has some good instructors but many are just HS graduates with an "in house" degree which is not qualified to teach at a regionally accredited school.

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Kamikazikid
US
May 18, 2011 5:59 am EDT

I am a 2010 Grad of GAA San Deigo and all I can say is you get out of it what you put into it. I have friends that were in my class that work at Bandon Dunes, Blackwolf Run and Vaqero Golf Club in Texas. All this was made possible by the networking at GAA. Also I have friends that cant find a job and dont know what their doing. These are the people that missed class didnt care and put in no effort. Myself I had more than one job while at school and had a great job before graduation. I am now an assistant professional in the PGA/PGM program. My staff consits of 3 alumni and one current student not including myself and I will always contact the school when looking for a new co workers. So take out of these post what you want, GAA will send you on the right path to being a golf professional, you still have to follow that path.

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Bonzer33
US
Dec 24, 2011 3:48 am EST

VC is a joke and soils GAA... Keep drinking the cool aid

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Bonzer33
US
Dec 24, 2011 3:48 am EST

VC is a joke and so is GAA...

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westcoastgolfer
Carlsbad, US
Apr 22, 2012 3:20 am EDT
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I graduated GAASD in 2011. It was a waste of money and 16 months. The GAA is just a company trying to make money. They don't care about the students or the quality of the program other than to keep the accreditation so students can borrow money to pay the tuition or the VA pay for veteran's to go to the school. There were just a few good teachers when I was there and one is no longer there. He was probably fired because he actually cared. When I was deciding to go there, this guy Henry told me I would get to play a lot of golf and everyone who graduates gets a job in golf after they graduate. We could not play more than 1 or 2 times a week because the class schedule that we are given is all over the place so there was no time to play except for tournament Monday. He told me 90% of graduates get a job in the golf industry after. I was lucky to get a job at a good club. Most of my classmates are still not working in golf. A lot have given up and found other jobs. Don't waste your time.

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PGAAPPGolfPro
Vista, US
Jan 26, 2013 9:27 pm EST
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I wonder who westcoast golfer is, we were probably classmate. I agree completely. I graduated GAA - Carlsbad in 2012. I can not speak to any of the other GAA campuses. I will say that GAA - Carlsbad is a bad place. It is run by scummy, scummy people. The information the marketing department gives out to get you to go there are lies. I was told the 90% placement rate also. There were 3 different career counselors while I was there. When we questioned the placement rate told to us during 3rd semester career class, the teacher admitted that number is made up. Maybe that is why he was fired. Another lie they push is transferring your credits to earn a 4 yr degree. This is only true if you go to their online sister school. No other school even accepts credits from GAA. They told me that I could play golf every day as part of my tuition. They make the schedules so you can play 1 time a week, 2 during some semesters, if you are lucky. The education is a joke. While the teachers there are mostly good guys, the whole place is structured to get your money, not educate you. Keep you enrolled to get your money is the priority. Since some students would leave or fail out if there was a real curriculum, they just don't teach like a real college (or high school). While I was there, there were 3 academic deans and a lot of other faculty turnover. The guy that is the academic dean now is a total ###. He was the worst teacher, every student thought he was a total ###, and then he was made dean. One of the teachers said that he is the perfect person for the job since the director is a ### too. After one of the academic deans left after just a couple of months, he gave his notice effective immediately the day before classes started, he posted on facebook that his former boss had no idea what he was doing and was a bully. This dean's background was academic compliance at a public college. I was sold a bunch of bad information and went there. It was around 2nd semester when I started figuring out that it was a scam. I finished in the 16 months because I did not want to be a quiter. Most of my classmates did not get jobs in the golf industry. Most went back to their home towns. I got a job in SD at a golf course. My boss, a PGA member, agrees that it was a waste of time and money. He said being a Pro in SD he has hired a lot of Golf Academy people over the years, but a GAA degree means nothing to him when hiring. I made a mistake and wasted 16 months and have to pay back my loans now. With the pay scale in the golf industry, I need help from my parents to pay my loan payments. Those of you thinking about going to GAA - Carlsbad learn from my misfake, don't do it!

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Kmall
DE
Feb 18, 2013 8:27 am EST

I'm retiring from the AF in a few months and considering a Golf Academy to take advantage of my GI Bill. I'm not looking to be the Pres or VP of a major course after grad, just have a leg up on the average guy while getting a job on a course. When I say job, I mean decent paying $15 - $20 an hr to supplement my pension while having fun. Would you recommend? Thx

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timppga
Liberty Lake, US
Sep 21, 2013 5:58 pm EDT

Wow! I can't believe all the very negative comments about the GAA. I graduated from the Orlando campus in 2005, got a great job immediately, went on to breeze through the PGA's PGM program and finally get great jobs like Head Professional and Director of Instruction. If you plan on becoming a PGA Professional then the GAA will prepare you for everything you will encounter during their program. If you are looking for a degree that can be used for something other than golf then you shouldnt be considering the GOLF academy anyway. The degree you get is an Occupational Asociated Degree with Occupational being the key word. My goal was to learn how be a golf professional, to be prepared for the PGM program and to get a job ASAP after graduation. ALL of these things were accomplished with the help of the GAA. In fact I was placed at my first job by the GAA and have since hired many graduates to my staff with huge success. The GAA is not difficult to pass so it is possible to get through the program without learning anything but that is your fault no the GAA. If you put into it what you want to get out of it than you will be satisfied with the GAA. As far as thier instructors not being qualified to teach that is not true. In order to be an instructor you must have a 4 year college degree, extensive golf industry experience and be a PGA member. This more than qualifies you to teach others how to be a golf professional. If your not happy with the GAA you need to look in the mirror and see what YOU can do to make it better and quit blaming others.

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