Innovative International Resorts Inc. review: FRAUD/SCAM 56

I got a call from a guy at this company IRI today. I had previously put a 100% refundable deposit with another company over a year ago, and did so because they said if it didn't sell I would get it back. OK then. I check the first company out Vacation Marketing, and found a nice web site, no bad ratings at BBBs, no fraud reports on the internet so I decided to go for it. They wanted me to use a check, but I used a credit card instead. They stopped returning phone calls at about the 6 month time frame, and then at about the 10 month time frame their phone numbers stopped working and at 11 months, their web site went offline. I sleuthed around and found their address appeared to be a box rental at a UPS store. So I sent them a certified mail requesting my refund on the date I was allowed to contractually do so, and notified my credit card company that I suspected fraud.

But, when this guy called today, he quoted all the data from the contract I had with the other company. He promised he had a buyer for $16, 900 which was the ceiling of value on the previous contract listing. He knew the property, the points, the company I bought it from and the place it was deeded. He said he saw I paid $800 toward that listing and said that since he had a buyer he would get me that $800 back from the other company. He said he needed me to verify the credit card number so he could put the $800 back on the right card. He told me the last four digits of the card. I asked him how he knew my credit card info and he said it was on the contract, which the last four digits were. I asked him how he got the contract when it was between me and another company and he said it was "all part of the public domain buddy" with a bit of an edge. He said he would send me a contract to sign that would enable him to do all the title work and such. He told me that the buyer had already agreed to pay the closing costs, taxes and fees. All I had to do was put in $2899 in good faith money to get this rolling and he wanted that credit card number right then and there. I told him that I would have to have him mail me all the documentation and contract before I gave him anything so I could look it all over and check things out. He got really pissy then, and asked sarcastically "Do you want to sell the property or not?" Then after holding my ground he said "look if you don't want to do this now I will just go get another seller for this buyer." I hung up on him as he was becoming really quite nasty and aggressive.

I suspect actually that Vacation Marketing, clearly a scam now, went underground to avoid its paybacks, and has now formed up under new management as IRI. How would they have a copy of my contract otherwise?

Anyway, I am pursuing this and will get my money back and I have provided complete documentation of every name, phone number, date and substance of every phone call to my credit card company and I hope that the people who are doing this will get dragged into public square and hanged right beside all the people who create and disperse computer viruses.

By the way, if you go to a REAL time share seller like Pinnacle, you can look up what listings comparable to yours are selling for. If the company calling you is saying they have gotten you abuyer for something substantially higher than that, be real. Why would anyone pay much more than something is worth? I looked up comparable listings for my property type and there are many MANY listings for comparable deeds for $[protected]. Why would someone then really offer me $16, 900? You must be kidding me. AND, since there are so many posts by people who say they are satisfied and got checks in hand, I would say these are posts by people from these companies trying to counter all the fraud posts. Just a theory.

The screen name "LoriSpier01" is not me, but rather someone from IRI posing as me. Believe me when I say that I have absolutely *nothing* positive to say about this company.

I got a call from them that they have a buyer for me ready. Asked me to put 2999$ deposit for the escrow which will be refunded at closing. I asked for a sample contract. They sent me a fax which stated nothing about the deposit all it was saying about the marketing fee. I asked him to send me the sales contract and would not send it to me until I paid 2999$. He thinks it's like 50 cents ... Said it you pay this by your credit card I have the paperwork that I will send you tomorrow to sign. I asked blank out all the information on that contract and send me the fax so I can see the actual contract details without looking at the buyer's details... Would not send that to me. I said no and hand up. He called me back and said thanks for wasting my time... I hand up again... few seconds later I get a call from a privet number the words comes out of his mouth is 'Indian [censor]'... Guys the number I got a call from was [protected]. And his name was Andrew checked the BBB website they have an F rating. well now i wonder why ... Stay away from this people for ever.A

Yes, stay way from this looser! Same as all the other comments. First they call and say they will refund the money from the previous Company " Vacation Marketing" to credit our card. Then they say they have a buyer for our timeshare and for only $1999.00 they can start the process. The name this looser used this time was "Dominic", he is or should I say tries to be professional, acts like he knows what he is talking about. When you challenge him, then he gets really mad and starts saying rude, nasty comments. Do Not Trust these Looser's!
They will also try and say the reason they have an "F" grade from the BBB is because they do not pay the $500 to get a good rating. BULL! WE NEED TO SHUT THEM DOWN..DO NOT GIVE THEM ANY CREDIT CARD INFORMATION!

11/19/2010
SCAM Innavative resorts international, is now charging $2899 dollars for the title serach. They say they already have a buyer.
I checked with the NY Better Business Bureau and they have a grade of F. This is the worst rating that a person can get. They have a bunch of complaints and they refuse to arbitrate with the BBB of NY and they will not return phone calls to others.
The people I talked with first had a name of Tyler Ellington but in another phone call his name was Tyler Moeller both people phone number [protected] his cell is [protected] the address in NY is 471 North Broadway, Jericho, NY 11753 . They promised $20.500 plus $4400 plus $1400 plus the return of the $2899.

Here is the New York No I was given. [protected] Spencer Andrews. Oh Crud I hope I didn't get shafted

Here is the New York Number I was given for Spencer Andrews [protected]. I hope I didn't get shafted

I also have been scamed by this company as well. I was taken for $2989.00 to pay for the closing costs and title search for my sold unit. This was charged to my credit card the very day of the call. Just try and get your money back. I think the federal goverment should shut these marketing companies down. They are very fradulent. This company has called back twice since March of 2010 trying to sign me up to sell my timeshare again, when I tell them they have a contract on file and give them the number they go to look for it and say they will call back but never do. I think this is horrible. I have tried to dispute the charges, but get nowhere. The criminals win. Desperate in Idaho.

I got a call from a Michael Brooks, personal #[protected] of Innovative Resorts International. Of course they had a buyer that put in a $2000.00 deposit. He confirms my info. both personal and timeshare and he presses enter on his computer and 'lo and behold, the bank is asking for a "Title Transfer Insurance" for $1999.00 - it would be a temporary charge on my card until the title transfer is completed, then the insurance fee would be refunded. Mr. Brooks states that since I get paid first they have run into the problem in the past of people saying, "to hell with it" and go take a vacation or something and they don't get the transfer of the timeshare completed. I asked for proof of what this charge was for, essentially documentation/paperwork I get a copy of their basic contract, which is of course a marketing contract - not a copy of what their purchase contract is.
These companies come up with new ways to get money out of you.

I was just contacted by Gregory McDennis telling me that he had a buyer for my Vacation Village timeshare and all I had to do is give them $2599. We started to believe him after 2- 45 minute phone calls. But this morning I received another call from a man that said he is from a recovery company to help people recover the money that they have lost. We then started to wonder what was going on! So I started doing some checking and found out about all these complaints. I think my money will stay right in the bank now that we know this company is a fraud! We have also been taken by Executive timeshare for $1399, Global REsort Management for $599, Resort Tours International for $688 and the best one is Charles Schwab Properties, Inc for $999. Catch the name? Actually it was a rep from Charles Schwab that contacted me about the buyer from Innovated Resorts International. I contracted with Charles Schwab and never heard from them for about 3 months. Then a woman called me and wanted to know if I wanted to advance my contract to a larger one. I then told her that I had heard that Charles Schwab was out of business and that I wanted my money back. She said OK the manager said to return your money... did I get it back? NNNNOOO! Two days later they called and said because it was over the 90 days that they would return my $999 and that a buyer would be calling me from NY. HA HA. An hour later I got the call from Gregory McDennis giving me his cell # [protected] and the company # [protected]. Also he gave me the amounts that his company would be paying on my behalf including Fidelity National Title Insurance Agency for $1680, paralegal $529, Title Trans Tax $238, Federal Appointed Witness (2 for $387) this is opitional and Fed Excise Tax $113. So they would be paying $12, 155 for me. They tell me that Hilton is buying these properties. He also told me that we would get back 70% of what we paid for Vacation Village or $9, 556. I will just turn this timeshare back to the owners like I did my one in NH.

Innovative Resorts International is a fraudulent timeshare resale scamming company licensed in Jacksonville Florida-841 Prudential Dr. 12th floor with their Jericho NewYork operation post office drop box is at Birchwood Plaza, 471 N. Broadway, Suite 379 and the Melville NY office address of 535 Broadhollow Rd. Responsible for Innovative's operations are apparently a Mr. Cloyd Holmes and Hector Reyes. They seem to be exempt from BBB inquiries and/or The New York Attorney General's Office since they have been scamming people for the last 4 years or so andare still active.

I, too, have been contacted twice today by Samantha Jones with Innovative International. She tells me that I agreed for them to market my timeshare over 18 months ago and I agreed that if they brought me a buyer, I would pay them a marketing fee. She tells me that they have a buyer who will pay me an unreal price (which put up the first red flag) but I have to get title insurance from them ($2999) which will be refunded when the sale is finalized. I have refused to get my own title insurance and refuse to get theirs... so she says I owe them a marketing fee because they have brought me a buyer.
I had never even heard of this company before today!
When she saw that she could not budge me she asked if I would "give" them the property...this would happen if I would pay for a title search or something like that.
I told her to take my name off their list or and she said I should have done that before they found a buyer for my time share. According to her I am liable for the marketing fee.
I am calling the FL attorney general's office today! I have all ready been scammed by 3 other companies and I've had it with these people!

Good for you! You don't "owe" them a penny. I had one caller telling I was obligated to pay some monter fee and, if I didn't, they would put a lien on my house. I told them to go ahead and do that. The guy was so shocked he dropped character and freely admitted he was trying to scam me out of more money. And yes, many of these "companies" will call and tell you that you spoke to them a while back and yadda, yadda. It's all a ploy - hoping you won't remember that you didn't speak to them and so will pay them more money.

Btw, you will never be taken off any list by a scammer. Instead, they merely sell your info to another scammer. However I've noticed that the information gets messed up along the way. Instead of my first name, the scammers are now calling with variations on it or calling me by my middle name. That's how, from the first words, I can tell it's a scammer.

Havelessbut knowmore
I hope you have more luck when contacting FL Attorney General's office with regard to your complaint against Innovative Resorts International than I did. The FL Division of Consumer Services, Bureau of Mediation & Enforcement contacted IRI business on my belalf in an effort to resolve my complaint. The business has chosen not to respond to this complaint. Therefore, The Division has closed my complaint with a disposition of "Closed Unsatisfactorily". I wish you better luck without a "cop out". Virginia Monet

Odds are pretty high that "Independent Recovery Corp" is another version of the "I have a buyer for your timeshare" scam. Do your research *before* calling them!

It is amazing what comes out of the woodwork each day regarding timeshare resale! I keep getting phone calls with the same spiel. Do they attend the same "scam" school?
Interestingly, though, one of the "recovery" callers was honest enough to say that I could either pay someone to get my money back or just write it off as a bad debt.
At this point after 4 years dealing with these folks, I don't trust anyone who claims to be able to either sell my time share or recover what I have all ready lost...and if there was a really, truly legitimate service available, I'm not sure I could trust them either.