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Peak Potentials Training review: Does not honor promises 49

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Before you shell out money for ANY courses, especially the advanced courses at Peak Potentials, you may want to confirm, in writing, that Peak Potentials will honor THEIR commitments.

We've paid thousands of dollars for Peak Potential courses including the Enlightened Warrior and Wizard Training. The trainings were awesome, we made some great friends, and we thought we could trust Peak Potentials. My husband and I attended our courses and camps here in California, about an hour from our home, and were assured that the more advanced courses would be held in locations other than Canada.

In anticipation of Peak Potential's premiere training, Mind of Steel, Heart of Gold, we paid a down payment for two people and made payments toward the upcoming Mind of Steel, Heart of Gold (MOSHOG) camp. That was in 2005.

For the past THREE years, however, we have been told that the course was "sold out" and that, if we chose to, we could go on a waiting list (which we did.) Peaks never bothered to follow up and ignored all of our e-mails. When I would call, I was told we were "still on the list." The only camp for MOSHOG, however, has been in Canada each year. The camp is offered one time each year, and located a full day of plane travel and transfers from our home. While Canada is easy enough to get to when one can make advanced travel arrangements, being on a waiting list without benefit of any notice is problematic under the best of circumstances. Work scheduling, in particular, was a challenge especially since my husband was in a senior management position and I was running two companies. I made this travel/work/scheduling issue abundantly clear when I registered and started paying for MOSHOG.

I was told, repeatedly, that if they could not get us in the third time that we could get our money back or transfer the course to someone else. And we still wanted to attend--until today, that is.

After numerous e-mails and faxes and waiting many, many times on hold, I finally got through to a customer service rep. An incredibly rude "customer service" rep at that. She informed me that she was the final decision maker and that there was no one above her that could or would give me a different answer.

We've not only paid many thousands of dollars--nearly $10, 000 for just the other courses not including travel, etc.--we have referred friends and family who have likewise spent thousands.

If anything, one would think that that much alone would warrant a bit nicer treatment.

Nope.

At the moment, Peak Potentials has $3, 992.45 of our money. I was told on no uncertain terms that there was no way, whatsoever, that the money would be refunded and that further, more money would now be expected of us in order to attend. The rep had the audacity to tell me to "keep [my] emotions out of it" when I calmly questioned why or even began to defend my copious notes on this particular file. She left me with "you can try to sell the seats" and then hung up.

In other words, there was no way we can get the money back. And to add insult to injury, we are expected to pony up an additional $1, 797.00 IF there is space at the next camp, which, it would seem, is already full with a waiting list.

Wow. How professional.

So, just a word of caution. We certainly won't be referring anyone else to Peak Potentials and we are definitely letting others know about this injustice.

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Phoenix Mentality
CA
May 24, 2013 11:31 am EDT

I never write on message boards but this time I am compelled to speak up in Peak Potentials defence.

You guys complaining should be ashamed of yourselves, clearly you are people who don't understand business terms or know how to make long term commitments. I would be ashamed to be complaining on this board, lumping myself into the millions of people looking for a magic bullet to change your life or a magical seminar that fix all of your problems. Ghandi got it right, knowledge is NOT power, it is POTENTIAL power only when you APPLY it.

Yes, life happens and something pops up that wasn't scheduled before you bought the course, then you make a CHOICE, if you are going to let that get in the way of your success then that's on you, however if it's something you absolutely positively can't get out of or hold as a priority above the course you believed could improve your life, fine just take the course the next time it's happening.

Why the hell would they refund your money beyond the refund period? Don't businesses have a 10 or 30 day return policy, don't other business even have a non-refund policy? Peaks is a business! Is that a dirty word? Would you be in business for refunding peoples money after they have breached the terms clearly written on the back of the form that they FAILED to take their own dutiful responsibility to read? Heck no! Welcome to the world people, this is a business not a damn charity and any business that operated the way many of you are crying that Peaks should operate like would be a failed venture many times over. Is a hotel a SCAM because they have a cancellation policy or an Airline a SCAM because they have a cancellation policy? Should they just give that money back leave an empty seat/room there while their expenses continue to accrue? Give me a break!

I just had to get that off my chest because the audicity of some of the people on this board is preposterous and indicative to people that will never breakthrough to the levels of success they are capable of.

My story? It began when I was gifted the MMI book in May, read it and it changed my whole outlook on life and myself. I signed up for MMI, Warrior Camp then went Quantum Leap to take on 5 more courses and here is how it impacted my life:

1) Initially quit a dead-pulse "comfortable" job, applied and was accepted for an "out-of-my-league" job that increased my income by 40%, I now earn at least $120, 000 per year more than I did before taking MMI with only a high school education (University and industry designations are a requirement for my occupation)
2) Re-engineered my whole relationship with women (relationship is only 1 of the elements in Warrior Camp) which influenced several healthy wonderful relationships until meeting my soulmate who I will be moving in with next month and plan to marry
3) Surfaced my life's vision and mission, became a Certified Coaching Practitioner, Certified Adult-Learning Educator, was elected and Director of Training and Development for a Men's Leadership Organization (all influenced by Train the Trainer and Life Directions courses)
4) Began 2 successful business ventures that still generate passive income for me to this day even though I have no worked on them actively since 2011
5) Bought my first home before age 30 and later my 1st rental property in 2012
6) Established many wonderful life-long personal, organizational and business relationships through the incredible people I met attending Peaks' courses which you cannot put a price on.

All of this was made possible directly or influenced through my experience with Peak Potentials and I know so many other success stories that blow mine out of the water. Did I use EVERYTHING that I learned in those courses? Heck no, but that's what personal development is all about, take what you need and take action on that. You cannot get mad at what you failed to do or get mad that Peaks is a business and they sell courses as their business to keep the lights on. They provide excellent actionable content and earn the right to sell courses which by the way may be exactly what you need to achieve your goals. No one has a gun to your head, not everyone will have success with everything, but everyone must take responsibility for what they do or don't do and where they are in life. Peak Potentials is a wonderful company with great people behind it, so many of you need to stop looking for excuses and calling things scams because you're looking for a magic bullet or lack the drive to put in an effort. If you are willing to, it might change your life as it did mine.

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Mike Griffin I
Walpole, US
Sep 22, 2013 10:12 pm EDT

I am writing this note to give an assessment of Peak Potentials. My wife attended the MMI introductory weekend two years ago. I explained to her she would be dazzled and amazed but she would be asked to sign up for courses to further her education. Not only did she sign herself up but me as well for their Quantium Leap Package.
Expect to learn something new at ever course. If you have not attended college, this high pressure learning experience will be fun and exiting. If you have a degree and know what it takes to go through an educational discipline, you will still find it informative and stimulating but not a substitute.
Here is the deal! Their business model is designed to get you in at a low or no cost, have you purchase their packages at a discount and attend their courses at various locations through out the country and Canada within a specific time period. Each course is designed around a business or personal growth theme and has Peak Potential people administer it. During a course you will be exposed to various speakers/trainers/authors who are there to heighten your awareness of what their program will do by pitching their products/services. The presenters are everything from legitimate business professionals to less than adequate snake oil sales people. Fortunately the staff at PP does a good job vetting most speakers, it is rarely a waste of time. Of the 6 courses my wife and I attended and the 6 courses we subsequently signed-up for from other vendors, I would give them collectively an A- for effort and a C+ thru B+ for content.
I can only speak for myself. Do your research and ask the Peak People what course(s) you should be attending based on your assessed needs. The leadership team, headed by Adam Markel, is authentic and sincere about what they are delivering, ultimately it is up to you to do the work with the information you were given. Our results are: The business has a new website with a shopping cart at a fraction of the cost associated with that endeavor. We test and market what works in our Brick and Mortar store and website. We are working on systems which did not exist or needed upgrading. Our three business are now accounted for in a way where we can make monthly changes which are measurable. We now know to the penny where our money comes from and goes. Our sales were up 11% last year. These courses are not a get rich quick scam but a means to get massive amounts of legitimate business information in a short period of time.
Oh, and you will meet some strangers who will become life long friends!

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Kirk Jensen
San Antonio, US
Oct 21, 2013 9:17 am EDT

Yes, I can agree with some of you, although T. Harv Ecker isn't involved with the company anymore. I usually go to the Millionaire Mind Intensive, which usually is held in Dallas, TX, or Austin, TX, I live in san Antonio, TX. I like to plan ahead, see when they would be coming back to TX, Hopefully the company will still have the core values, if not, I will ask them if they can adapt to using 212* Service, which brings customer service to a newer, and better level. Its been march of 2011 since I last attended the MMI, I hope I can go to it next yr, the one in December in Dallas, is too far, not sure when, and where they will have it in TX.

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Integrity Searcher
Costa Mesa, US
Nov 09, 2013 3:29 am EST

I attended the MMI seminar with my business partner and daughter. We loved it though it took awhile to get past the cheerleading. I said going into it that I was definitely NOT going to buy a course no matter what, but then eventually purchased the Stock Market course as it appeared tailor-made for me. I began trading in February and eventually realized a gain of $3000 by first of October, but in a day lost $1500. So now I'm not breaking even yet after nearly a year of doing what I was trained to do. But I'm not complaining about that. I had signed up to be an Ambassador (someone who promotes PP seminars for a commission). In the summer, I was offered my choice from 4 seminars to attend free with a friend, so I chose the Never Work Again seminar to be held this December in Palm Springs. I was very excited to go and looking forward to it. But life took a turn any my business partner was diagnosed with Stage IV colon and liver cancer, plus had a colostomy. As I am his 24/7 caregiver I cannot go to the seminar. When I wrote PP today to explain my circumstances and request being able to attend the seminar in December, 2014, I was turned down flatly. I could have produced proof that I indeed have to take care of a cancer patient if asked, but they didn't consider this legitimate to extend a small courtesy to a client whom they have already profited from. Really? You can't allow me to come the next year instead? For a company whose email address is clientcare @ peakpotentials.com I thought there certainly wasn't any "care" involved. Now I won't get to attend, nor my daughter, so I shall no longer recommend them to others. The woman who wrote me the denial had the gall to say her "heart went out to me and mine" and wished me "best wishes". How disingenuous! It was a small favor to ask and so easy for them to accommodate. I've run my own very successful business for over 10 years, so I know all about company policies - but policies are ALWAYS negotiable and should be and there should be a way to honor special circumstances to keep students happy and receive good reviews instead of the one I'm placing here. It wasn't as if I was wanting to go on a vacation instead or some lame excuse. I'm dealing with life and death issues here, and doing what's right for my business partner, but PP didn't care to extend the smallest courtesy. Oh well. What goes round, comes round.

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Ky Trang Ho
Los Angeles, US
Jul 14, 2014 1:23 am EDT

I attended MMI this past weekend in Anaheim, California, USA after hearing rave reviews. Several attendees I met had been to multiple MMIs. My sister is an event volunteer and has been trying to get me to go for three years. She believes in Peak Potentials and has been to other seminars.

It was phenomenal and I learned so much. I was so enthralled, I signed up for the "Quantum Leap" program, which includes access to six seminars: "Real Estate Workshop, " "Enlightened Warrior, " "Never Work Again, " etc.

My husband was very upset and we argued about my purchase for a long time. As a psychiatrist, he thought many of the tactics they used at MMI were outdated, ex. snapping your wrist with a rubber band to end negative beliefs. He said research conducted 30 years ago proved this was ineffective. Telling people that the course normally costs $49, 846 but if you sign up on the spot, it costs only $6995, preys on people's impulses. It doesn't let people ponder and do their research.

After reading all of the complaints on various websites and this review http://personalexcellence.co/blog/never-work-again-seminar-days-3-4-review-and-conclusion/, I cancelled my purchase. You get three days to cancel. The passive income strategies touted in "Never Work Again" are hardly passive. Investing in stocks, forex, real estate, etc. is hard work, very risky and not for the weak hearted. I know because I covered the stock market for a national business newspaper for eight years and own rental properties. Tenants fail to pay. They destroy things, which you have to fix. Writing a best seller is even harder. As is attracting eyeballs online to sell ads or creating a smartphone app. I am really disappointed because I was very excited to attend all of the seminars.

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RichieR
New Milford, US
Jul 20, 2015 9:17 am EDT

Did anyone ever think that it's full because it works? This if google, I can write negative or positive experiences. (Without having them). If the classes are full, you can cry about it or you can pat yourself on the back because you made a right choice. It they didn't work, the classes would be empty & they would be out of business. You flip your own coin. The universe will only give you what you give it.

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Ilona Hassan
US
Jun 06, 2016 7:26 pm EDT

New Peaks is a scam, simply. They owe me money for the course I cancelled the next day I registered and never got any response to multiple emails and no luck reaching them by phone. I wanted to transfer to another course, but now that I see what kind of integrity this organization and its leadership have - I will be warning anybody to stay away.

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Anna So
CA
Aug 05, 2016 2:21 pm EDT

Beware of Peak Potential and all their courses. They make all kind of promise to make you buy but their courses but their courses don't fit everybody and you may spend your hard earned money to trash. Beware also of their warranty. You won't get any refund.

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Jacque2
US
May 18, 2017 10:25 pm EDT

I liked the Millionaire Mind Seminar a lot. In fact it is one of my all time favorite courses. Their method of presenting is the best. It is the only course I know of that is dedicated to your financial freedom. I've taken a ton of college courses and have two Masters degrees, one being an MBA. College courses do not focus on making you financially free. They are only focused on memorizing and doing a lot of research and writing, not about taking steps to become free financially. Where else can you get training on getting financially free? If anyone knows, let me know. These courses are intended to help people and make profit for PP. It's a win - win situation. Yes, it cost money. Compared to other professional courses and college, it is very low priced. People spend $50k a year for college in order to get a corporate job that keeps them slaves forever. If you can do a better course for less money then why aren't you doing it?