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WithGames.com Tried to steal money

withgames.com tried to steal money from my paypal account. I have never visited their site, (still haven't) but they somehow got paypal to authorize a payment from me. They tried to get $199 and paypal investigation said it was an authorized payment. Money showed up being withdrawn from my bank account on Friday, I saw it Saturday morning and sent a dispute Saturday morning to Paypal. I have not used my paypal since for over 14 months, but paypal Sunday night said the dispute was denied. I was able to stop the payment with my bank (credit union). Google showed they have tried this with other people, some successful. They are crooks and should be shutdown.

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WithGames.com Bot users for rower lvl!

Wow, Can it get any worse? they claim they don't use bots to power lvl on there accounts but yet my account was Brand NEW And it was "some how" Banned, Hmmm i wonder... well check out the Chat transcripts from this rude and ridiculous PLEASE DON'T ORDER FROM WITH GAMES. COM I SWEAR THEY WILL NOT BE HONEST WITH YOU! Please wait for a site operator to respond. Please don't forget leave your feedback when this chat end.

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You are now chatting with 'linda'

linda: Hello, how may I help you?

Me: Hey, Remeber me?

Me: IM back

Me: *************
linda: ah, sorry, not exactely

linda: many customers a day lol

Me: I Understand :P

Me: Lols

linda: :)

Me: I Was checking your mind

Me: How was the new year?

linda: sorry, not so good,

linda: on working, u see , very busy lol

Me: Ah Yeah

Me: Well did he find info on the account?

Me: your Farmer?

Me: Because im still banned ;

linda: Hold on a moment please , I will check it for you. Thanks for your patience

Me: ok

linda: :)

Me: :P

Me: sucks my account got banned :(

linda: i am waiting for his responce

Me: k :

linda: :)

linda: our guy said he has finished ur order already

Me: Yes, correct but Rememmber my accoutn got banned becuase you guys used bots

Me: account*

linda: no, our guy never use bots

Me: "linda: if it is really our fault, we will give u a compensation, when my partner respond , i will tell u :)"

Me: You did

Me: Becuase my accoutn got banned

Me: i cannot logg into it

linda: yes, i said that, but i asked him , he said when he finish ur order, ur acc was ok

linda: he didnt do anything wrong with ur acc

Me: No, after he logged out

Me: I Was on my firends account the whole time

Me: As soon as he logged out i logged in and it sayed "i was suspended"

linda: sorry, he said he didnt do anything wrong

Me: Are you kidding me?

Me: I Was wathcign him the whlole time he did the same thing for 7 hrs straight and he was on the accoutn for 3 days straight im pretty sure h DID Use a bot.

linda: wait, plz

Me: If this is the case, i will simply not sell any more guildwars gold to your company any more, nor will i order here ever again.

Me: I Suply your company with 75% of the guildwars gold..

linda: i asked my partner to check , wait, plz

Me: k

Me: Ask, Amily she will tell you that i sell guildwars gold.

linda: just plz wait, i asked mypartner to check again

Me: I am..

linda: ok

Me: Check on what?

linda: check if the trainer did anything wrong

Me: How, He obvisly lied the first time to you, he was on the accoutn for 3 days straight.

linda: !

linda: how did u know that ?

Me: I Was on a friends account and every hour or so id log in he'd be in the same spot killing the same thing and never moving.

linda: but it cant say he used bots, and maybe his rest time is when u are off line,

Me: And i know he didnt "bot" when he lvled it from 2-23 but once he ht 24- 30 he botted it was clearly obvious

Me: I even noticed it

Me: And WOW Admins noticed it also now, im banned

linda: still no responce from him yet

Me: ah, Doese he know that i know he was using a bot?

linda: i still dont think he used bot, since he never use that

Me: He, May have not but could you please explain why my account got banned?

Me: It's brand new your the only people that were on it.

linda: i asked my partner to find the trainer to ask for the details, plz wait,

Me: ok, also do you need me to paste e-mail blizzard sent me?

Me: I Gave it to you once.

linda: dont need now

Me: kk.

Me: Ill just paste it here

Me: * * * NOTICE OF FINAL WARNING * * * This is a notification regarding the World of Warcraft account ********. Access to this account has been temporarily disabled for exploitation of the World of Warcraft economy or for being associated to accounts which have been closed for intended exploitation. Based on a review of the information presented, this World of Warcraft account has been given a final warning and a 72 hour account suspension, in addition to any previous warnings issued. Until the suspension has been lifted, the account will not be accessible. Please note that Blizzard Entertainment will be unable to provide further information regarding the specific time an account will become accessible again. This action has been taken in accordance with the Terms of Use (http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/legal/termsofuse.html) and our game policies (http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowgm/?id=agm01712p). According to the World of Warcraft Terms of Use, to which all players agree when installing World of Warcraft, Section 5, Paragraph C [Rules Related to Game Play] states that you may not do anything that Blizzard Entertainment considers contrary to the "essence" of World of Warcraft. Be aware that any additional inappropriate actions may result in the permanent closure of the account. With that being said, we have reset the password to the World of Warcraft account ********. Please use the new password that has been sent to your registered e-mail address to log into the game client first. After you have successfully logged into the World of Warcraft, you may proceed to the Account Management page to set the password as you choose. It may take up to one day for our system to generate and send the temporary password; your patience in this matter is appreciated. If you have not received a temporary password within one day of receiving this message, please check your: · Spam folder · Junk Mail folder · Suspect Mail folder If you are still unable to locate the temporary password message, please contact us at http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowaa/?id=eSupport000. For the continued security of the account, please log in at https://www.worldofwarcraft.com/account and take the following steps: · Verify that your contact information is accurate; update it if necessary · create a new, not-easily guessed, secure personal password;

http://www.blizzard.com/support/?id=asi0505p has password creation tips. Please be sure to maintain safe Internet practices and safeguard all World of Warcraft account information for the most secure gaming experience. Feel free to contact us with any further questions or concerns you may have. For more computer/Internet safety and security tips, please visit http://www.blizzard.com/support/?id=msi0504p. Any disputes or questions concerning this account action can only be addressed by Account Administration. To learn more about how Account Administration is able to assist you, please visit us at http://www.blizzard.com/support/wowaa/. We thank you in advance for respecting our position and hope that you will continue to enjoy your gaming experience in World of Warcraft. Regards, Hacilus Account Administration Blizzard Entertainment www.WorldOfWarcraft.com

linda: ok

Me: k :)

linda: ok, my partner responded me

Me: kk

linda: it didnt shows ur acc is banned, it justt shows ur pass is wrong

linda: so ur acc is not banned,

Me: yes, when wow accounts get banned pass resets

Me: hold on let me get it

linda: so it is not a banned thing,

Me: yes it is

Me:***************

linda: it maybe just frozen, and u can get the new pass from blizzard,

Me: **************
Me: Is pass

linda: the trainer just tried ,

Me: Really?

linda: the infor just showed ur pass is wrong,

Me: Wait here pls

Me: ill check

linda: didnt say the acc was banned,

Me: brb :)

linda: kk

Me: Hey, tell him again

linda: ok ?

Me: I Just tryed it, it worked but tell him to read it carfully

Me: i have a snap shot

linda: it worked so means ur acc is not banned, right ?

Me: Ok listen to me ok?

Me: You cant logg in and play it says your account is suspended

linda: ok

linda: u need contact with blizzard,

Me: Want me to send you a snap shot?

Me: Why, you got it banned

linda: we tried , it didnt show ur acc was banned, ok ?

Me: Yes it doese lol..

Me: Wow..

linda: u can contact with blizzard for more details

Me: This isnt right..

Me: Okay well whatever you can lie all you wnt.

Me: want*

linda: no,

linda: we never lie,

linda: just tell u the truth

Me: You just did.

Me: ITS BANNED

Me: Got a e-mail so i can send a pic?

linda: dont need, our trainers dont need cheat us,

Me: ha, funny well your trainer is a joke, or maybey your trainer is a bot.

linda: no,

linda: he is a real person

linda: ok ?

Me: Ah, I Do not believe it's humanly possible to play for 3 days straight and, stay in the same spot all day killing the same thing's not even moving once and doesn't respond to anything also, it is CLEAR it is a bot He lies to you, and for this i will not sell you any more gold that i farm, so good luck in your business.

linda: who told u he play for 3 days stratightly ?

Me: No one told me i saw it for myself

Me: and Blizzard even noticed it.

linda: wow, u got on line for 3 days ? ?

Me: Nope, Every hours or two id check on the account

Me: The account was in the same spot doing the same exact motions

Me: you know im right..

Me: Just dont want to admit it.

Me: i understand.

Me: But tell the staff they were good especially Amily she helped me out alot and i did for her too.

linda: yes, u also said every hours, then how did u know he didnt rest when u were not online ?

Me: Like i said it was my friends account, He told me when you were online and offline and the accoutn nver logged.

Me: Im going to file a dispute

linda: anyway, we didnt make ur acc banned, and ur acc was not banned , bye '

Chat session has been terminated by the site operator
los lier.

CONCLUSION LIES LIES LIES AND LIES! DON'T ORDER HERE [protected]@!@!

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Eric sakula
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Jan 21, 2010 7:54 pm EST

withgames.com = gold4rs.com =accountbar.com = accontol.com = runescapesell.com = rs2gold.com = rsgoldsell.com = vgoldseller.com = Scamer!

usfine.com is best for me

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Brian
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Aug 12, 2008 6:49 pm EDT

Hey sorry that you guys had trouble...

In the future if you are checking for virtual currency vendors to try to avoid getting scammed check out this site that I found:

http://www.GameRates.com

It lists full consumer-reports-like vendor reviews of all of the top vendors, and has a pretty sweet price matching feature along with some graphs. That way you can find the cheapest prices along with the best customer service for all the major MMO's. I've had great gold purchasing experiences since I started using it.

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May 07, 2008 2:00 pm EDT

hAHA nice convo that was some good reading. If i was interested in selling an account is there any place that doesnt run a scam operation?

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WithGames.com Fraud and cheating!

After 18 hours I ordered a WOW powerlevel 1-60 to WITHGAMES.COM, Blizzard suspended my account, the reason for it was:

"Type of Violation: Use of Prohibited Third Party software Consequences for Account: Account Suspension for 3 days (72 hours) and warning placed on the account".

WITHGAMES answered me they were surprised with it, they told me maybe it was due to being logged in many hours (they told me more than 24 hours, obviously they were lying, I checked all the time their progress on another account). They told me they were not using programs for cheating, and again it sounds like a lie. I asked them for giving me back the money, at least the difference between level 27 they leveled me up (they began with level19) and the 1-60 I ordered. The surprise was they told me they check me a lot more of money for it, because they needed a lot of time arranging the powerlevel (they started with a 19 twink!). So, they gave me back less money than fair price and I get the account banned for 3 days and one warning placed on the account. Some friends of mine told me about the same thing... Conclusion... if you want to raise your level... spend hours by yourself of trust in some confident company.

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Eric sakula
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Jan 21, 2010 7:54 pm EST

withgames.com = gold4rs.com =accountbar.com = accontol.com = runescapesell.com = rs2gold.com = rsgoldsell.com = vgoldseller.com = Scamer!

usfine.com is best for me

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Chad
Truckee, US
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Jan 02, 2009 11:20 pm EST

Before when withgames actually gave you the service you payed for, I spent some money on my lv 45 sin to get to lv 48. A day after my account got to 48 my account was hacked. I tried pin reset and still waiting...

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Chad
Truckee, US
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Jan 02, 2009 11:15 pm EST

Its true I bought 100m in mesos testing out the company and after the so called 30 minute wait, I didn't get it. I waited for a few more days and nothing.

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gibby
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Oct 04, 2008 9:37 pm EDT

is this stuff true?

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Frumpytuna
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Sep 14, 2008 1:57 pm EDT

I agree I payed them to power lvl my lvl 39 r0gue to lvl 70 and they got to lvl 49 and my accont got banned forever

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PlayItYourself
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Nov 13, 2007 11:47 am EST

Conclusion... if you want to raise your level... spend hours by yourself of trust in some confident company."

Or... try playing the game yourself instead of paying someone else to do it! I've never understood people that pay money to buy a game, then pay to have someone else play it for them.

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WithGames.com Don't buy from this company!

Before you order gold from WITHGAMES.com read the fine print in the disclaimer….

‘THE COMPANY MAKES NO REPRESENTATIONS OR WARRANTIES OF ANY KIND’

The following is a summary of my bad experience with WITHGAMES.com a WoW gold selling company based in Beijing, China. It was the last chat after over TEN HOURS of chat with live help during a week.

withgames.com: Hello, how may I help you?

me: I have been waiting 7 days for my wow gold to arrive 'withgames.com' said she changed my realm info to ******** for a face to face trade because the sender was BANNED in the first realm. 'withgames.com' also said alot of your collectors have been banned for using gold farming BOTS and it is ‘VERY VERY’ hard to collect gold since last week? I was also told days ago my order was in processing in this new realm and the sender was above lvl 50… It’s been days since my realm info was changed and Yesterday I was told your guy still has ‘NO’ gold I was also told the sender IS being payed so what is he doing?

withgames.com: hello,my guy said that the gold on that server is out of stock,u need to wait more long time.

me: what has he been doing all this time?

withgames.com: he was banned,we need to find another acc.

me: BANNED AGAIN?!? i have characters in the following realms... do you have any lvl 50+ in these 5 realms... ******** ********** *********** ********** ***********

withgames.com: my guy said to me that the acc on other servers have their job for sending golds.if we transfer u to another server,u will wait for one more long time.

me: it says on your website gold delivery 'promise' of 1-3 days is that true?

withgames.com: but we met with an accident ,our acc was banned.

me: Yes twice… but if the account was banned in my realm you've set the order info to it will takes months for someone to create a new account and lvl up past lvl 50+ ?

withgames.com: we can buy a new one

me: why would you buy an account when you offer a 'power leveling' service yourself? lol

withgames.com: sorry,im not sure about this.

me: your site claims to be able to get to lvl 50+ char in 14 days so your telling me you know nothing about the powerleveling service you offer? Lol nevermind…

me: you have no way of contacting your sending department?

withgames.com: im afraid that.

me: ic

me: we have a problem then :)

withgames.com: i already cancelled the order, u will get ur money back,then u can place a new order. Thank you for chatting. and welcome to withgames.com. Good-bye.

(That said I did receive a refund to my HUGE surprise after the 7 days of pain with livechat support)

MY ADVICE IS WITHGAMES.COM DO NOT DELIVER SO DON’T BUY FROM THEM!

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marie
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Sep 16, 2008 8:50 pm EDT

its been 4 days and my currency order is not yet available. I've been chatting with customer service for days but they keep on saying its not available and no refund.

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trinity
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Oct 06, 2008 2:51 pm EDT

I made a small currency order and have not recieved it. There website claims it takes 1 hour to recieve, its been over 24 hours. I have chatted with customer service many times, each time I have been told they are "gathering" my order. Other excuses have been "the guy just is getting back from holiday" and "all plat farmers were banned from that server today, everyone is out of plat". When I asked for a refund they said there "system is down" and I should check back later. DO NOT USE THESE PEOPLE!

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angie12
Calgary, CA
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Apr 19, 2010 10:55 am EDT
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I agree. This is a scam. They locked me out of my account after a few days and I have never been able to recover it even though I have all the information they say they need.
Buyer Beware! Do not buy from this company, , , withgames_affiliation.

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Eric sakula
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Jan 21, 2010 7:54 pm EST

withgames.com = gold4rs.com =accountbar.com = accontol.com = runescapesell.com = rs2gold.com = rsgoldsell.com = vgoldseller.com = Scamer!

usfine.com is best for me

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Eric sakula
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Jan 21, 2010 7:52 pm EST

omg, withgames.com is scam~~~~!
i think usfine.com is best

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zerofff
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Oct 05, 2009 1:35 pm EDT

ordered small amount of gold to see if this company was legit. they claim they delivered the gold via ingame mail. my account received no gold.

this website is a scam.

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Redwulf
Biloxi, US
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Sep 13, 2009 5:29 am EDT
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Lazy idiot gamers who use gold-selling sites amuse me when they complain about getting ripped off.

You ARE the problem.

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wowbuyer
Sydney Metro Area, AU
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Dec 23, 2008 12:25 am EST

they have done the same to me, i have been on there "livechat" 11 times over the last 4 days, been lied to every time, they it will be only 2 hrs.
How you get your money back is, if you have payed by paypal, just start a complaint with them. Don't even bother talking to withgames, they are completely hopeless in every regard. But as soon as they get the paypal complaint they will refund straight away cause if they get a bad paypal rep no one will ever by of them (which would the best option from the start, cause they are a joke)

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Anon
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Nov 08, 2008 5:41 pm EST

To be honest, you seem like a bit of a jerk. The sales rep was pretty calm and explained the problem. Learn some patience.

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Brian
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Aug 12, 2008 6:48 pm EDT

Hey sorry that you guys had trouble...

In the future if you are checking for virtual currency vendors to try to avoid getting scammed check out this site that I found:

http://www.GameRates.com

It lists full consumer-reports-like vendor reviews of all of the top vendors, and has a pretty sweet price matching feature along with some graphs. That way you can find the cheapest prices along with the best customer service for all the major MMO's. I've had great gold purchasing experiences since I started using it.

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