RW Hertel & Sons review: Cheating and lies! 193

Continue to send information on Hertel and his scams and financial housing fraud

Yes, Hertel is in deep trouble over the building of defective project at Fairways at Sterling Hills, Bob Fowler is on the board as well as a golf pal with other owners so we are going to settle that one soon so I wish you others luck they are very dishonest builders.

Greeting to those who have been screwed by RW Hertel my friends are victims as well. I see Hertel is being SUED yet again in San Luis Obispo Superior court # CV-070372 for Criminal and illegal dumping of Toxic Dirt in the Salinas River at his El Jardin at Las Lomas project in Ascadero, CA not to mention he is again sued in Ventura Superior Court by Fairways at Sterling Hill HOA too does this guy not get it ? Build good homes not cheap lousy leaking one's and try and tell the TRUTH but that is asking too much of a Criminal he has Lawsuits all over the State and the CSLB is still probing his defective building practices.

Yep, this is the same company who is building in Antioch, CA Laurel Ranch Project he is trying to rip off people here as well. Now I know to go to the city and let them know this is a bad boy builder.

No doubt RW Hertel is nothing but a con man and cheap builder he is once again being sued in Court in San Luis Obispo, CS# 070278 by A-1 Painting. As always he does NOT pay his bills. He is a liar and a cheat.

I agree hertel is a lying con man, he has defaulted on contracts and loans case # SC070278 he owes over $ 5,000.00 to A-1 painting and has NOT paid his bills and now is being sued.

This is by far the most dishonest and utterly lousy cheap builder I have ever seen, today RW Hertel & Sons is AGAIN back in Rancho Obispo having to AGAIN fix the many leaks and Mold in the homes. I saw them working yesterday and spoke to the City Officials this morning and they confirmed Hertel Again has taken out more permits to fix for the 30th time defects in many of their homes now going on over 4 years in this new now well known Defective project. How long does it take to fix the leaks and mold the two owners I spoke to said they are suing Hertel and the HOA for covering up the leaks the other guy said he is thinking of suing Hertel what a ongoing mess Hertel wake up build a home according to the Code's and stop covering up the defective and leaking homes, oh and pay your bills.

Thank you for the ongoing expose of Hertel and company does any one know of his other dishonest company called Western Atascadero Development Company, Inc. Lic. # 724238 and his partner Roger Tompkins ? many others have been scammed and ripped off by Hertel and his associates if you have any information could you put it on the site so we can gather information for a Federal Lawsuit against the multi companies and a Fraud matter.

Thanks Wes!

Well, Well I visited a friend yesterday day in the San Luis Obispo Development called RANCHO OBISPO next to the New Costco built by RW Hertel and Sons, Inc. of Ventura, CA my friends home was Once again under going MOLD Cleaning he told me their are now three more homes just this week going through the same again. After four years of leaks, defects and Mold. Two of the homes are involved in the City low income housing program. I spoke to City official D. Fogg who confirmed several more homes are once again under going more Mold testing and Mold has been again found in the homes after Hertel said they were ALL Fixed after a Indepth State Investigation found them Guilty of faulty building. Why does it take so long or even why can not this builder learn to tell the TRUTH and build homes to code and Not to Lie, Conceal or cover up the facts his homes are defective and leaking and have MOLD. I saw two of the homes inside yesterday that they are a mess. Hertel why?

MOLD ALERT ! RW Hertel & Sons Rancho Obispo Development in San Luis Obispo, CA Three Yep (3) more Homes are now being treated for MOLD Contamination and have TOXIC MOLD this after Hertel said they " fixed" the leaks and Mold yet one more Lying scam by Hertel to conceal and cover up there defective homes. Be warned and cautioned about buying a Hertel home anywhere. Two of the homes with MOLD this month are under the City of SLO Low Income so just think if they cheated these low income people what else are they doing in their dangerous Mold and leaking Homes ?

I agree RW Hertel is a lying con man just last week Dennis of Cinderella Carpets and Showcase of SLO had to file about a dozen liens against his Project called El Jardin at Las Lomas and RW Hertel & Sons and against Atascadero Ventures, LLC for over $ 100,000.00 of unpaid bills Hertel and Fowler are well know cheaters and do NOT pay their bills it is all public records in the County Clerk's office in San Luis Obispo filed on 10-18-07 many others have filed as well he never pays. I agree he too builds cheap lousy defective homes as well.

I really can't believe what I am reading here. I worked for Hertel a few years back and found the Company to be of the highest standards. I have fellow friends that worked for KB Homes and others that when I compared notes there building techniques were way below Hertels. I am just watching this from out of state where I am working for a world wide Contractor and cannot believe the ignorance and money hungry mob mentality.

RW Hertel may have problems in his past, but he put these projects together and pushed through innovative and quality projects in SLO, a very difficult slow growth County. Thats why the Houses there are worth so much. My experience is that people have problems and then the California mentality of cashing in somehow, comes to play.

When ever a House is built, things rarely go smoothly. It takes good people to steer any construction in the right direction. Hertel's Houses are very different from "The norm". Anyone who owns one knows that, the rooms are bigger, every conceivable new technology and amenity are included, but they use moderate appliances and standard tile feathers unless owners pay for more. On one project they included a Balcony off the Master Bedroom to take in a great view, but the roofing technique on the balcony failed in a few homes, is that shoddy building, not by a long shot. What happened after was that the roof/floor application was studied and corrected. In todays world there can almost be no sub-standard building. Builders use concrete, standard wood, newer siding, standard Sheetrock and lots of different roofing systems. If a roofing subcontractor uses a cheaper paper, which is the foundation of all roofs then there might be problems down the line. But lying or making up stories about whose fault it is doesn't help at all, its counter productive.

I would think that all these unhappy owners would want to just resolve any issues and move on. By badmouthing and slandering Hertel, you devalue your own home, falsely.
How stupid is that. Well the only reason for it is that people think they can get paid off.

The postings I have seen about Hertel so far by one or two people are ludicrous, this bozo has insulted all the Hispanic workers and gone so far as to call company people child molesters. I would be very bleary of anybody of extreme prejudice, this guy is a criminal or crazy.

I pull no punches when I say you owners are absolutely stupid to jump Hertel and try to badmouth this Company into submission, by blindly following and accepting some idiots personal vendetta against this Company, you are hurting yourselves. If you sue anyone, and lets face it you Cali's are sue happy, you should sue this guy that who's actions devalue your homes. Or you can all go crazy and I will return to SLO and buy one of your homes for cheap, I'll get a good buy.

Interesting if you like Hertel homes then come back and buy mine it is worth 50K less than i bought it for and why do you avoid the facts the State Contractors Board, the City inspectors, and now I'm told more than 10 independent insurance inspectors have ALL agreed Hertel homes are shoddy, below standard and then we see all the suits against Hertel where he again was found GUILTY, it sounds like your a Hertel sales man in need of some sales ! Good luck you will need it and oh by the way why is Hertel back in SLO having to again re-repair three homes this week all with Mold, here are the address's 1772 Singletree, 1963 DeVaul and 1965 Devaul Ranch Rd. not to mention the last 51 homes the State made him re-flash, re-roof etc... come back anytime i will sell you mine...

I was living my home today for lunch in Hertel's Rancho Obispo Project on Singletree Ct. when at the end of the street where DeVaul and Singletree intersect I saw a big Yellow Service Master truck with several Space suited guys taking lots of sheet rock, insulation etc.. out in HazMat bags I asked what was going on ? They said " Many of the homes are Defective and they are removing MOLD contaminated materials from three of the homes due to ongoing leaks. So much for the Truth or lack of it by Hertel telling us they fixed the defects. Tomorrow I am hiring my own expert and if I have MOLD I will consult a Lawyer to file a suit against this lying builder.

I too know of this builder he is a cheap and lying type Paranoid personality and a coward he enjoys Las Vegas loves to throw money probably your money on the tables especially the RIO Hotel and Casino he is one really strange guy and mostly a coward and thinks he is a tough guy best thing to do is check into his building History with the CSLB and local Building officials you will learn his reputation is in the Mud.

Ouch, I know this Hertel well and his very dishonest Lawyer Adam M. Daner. Adam was passed over for a partnership at a firm he once worked at in SLO, most of the associates who once worked with him have quit and Dave Money broke from him as well. He and his wife in need of money adopted some kids from CHINA and since he has a very " Mean" part to him it is no wonder so many local lawyers and judges think he is a nut job, he works for Hertel and lies and makes false statements for Hertel because all the honorable lawyers will NOT work for Hertel all know his reputation as a builder is crappy thus Daner's reputation is also crappy and we all laugh at him.. Adam Hi to AJ.

Hello RANCHO OBISPO HOA MEMBERS, as you know by todays mail we all got notices of increasing our dues or a major special assessment all because of Board mismanagement and Hertel defective homes we all bought. We need a NEW board and better representation get involved we are in fact Loosing the legal battle not winning so all because of Hertel concealment of the leaks and Mold and yesterday i was shown photo's of one home who had Warning signs posted Hazard due to Mold Contamination so get involved vote this board out and a new one in Vote for Sam Blank, write in and vote for any other who are not currently on the board we need new people.

I have a few friends who were bilked by RW Hertel and his partner Robert JS Fowler could you post any other information on them and their association with Narcotic trafficking and Money laundering with their various companies and Loan Fraud. We are assisting several agencies and would love to get more information for a Federal Case as well to passing it to the Fed's.

Indeed corruption and loan fraud are a way of life of these people, I once used their Attorney Adam M. Daner, Esq. wanted us to use his SS# [protected] to set up phony accounts to launder ill-gotten monies.

Needless to say I left and hire a honest firm, The companies are Hertel Development Partners, LLC with Thomas Habbick, Robert JS Fowler, Ron W. Hertel Dan J Harkey, William R. Zech just to name a few.

Be careful to Atascadero Ventures, LLC and RW Hertel & Sons, Inc. as well all are crooks and liars!

Those who have been lied and cheated by Hertel he is at it again now builder another crappy project in Atascadero called De Estancia another Las Lomas night mare like El Jardin so check your builder out in depth. Ron Hertel is a joke he was trying to be funny at the Ventura Rotary Club meeting in September but he was a fool...

Yep, I know this company they also have RWH-Adobe Creek, LLC and Domek Properties as well Con Men and Scam Artist as well. Good Luck and thank you for exposing them, many of us know of the scams they all do.

You guys do NOT know the entire story, Rancho Obispo is now facing at least a 20% increase in the HOA dues all because of Hertel and his Lousy leaking homes.

I know of many who got screwed by Hertel and his buddies. If you have any thing on them call the State Contractors Board and the IRS they are seeking any Criminal Information on RW Hertel and his many associates for a Criminal Charge. He is nothing short of a Liar and Con Man of a FRAUD. He is apparently cheating developer Bryan Troxler Development as well so watch out for any of Hertel projects State wide. You will be cheated, lied too and scammed.

Here are a couple of there other names, 16627 Avalon, LLC or try Aprisa, LLC all are connected to RW Hertel and his illegal activities if you know of more let the US Attorneys Office in San Jose, CA know White Collar Fraud Unit, or you local FBI and IRS office as well.

I agree this is a terrible builder and nothing more than a Land and Real Estate Con man. Here are two more of his phony companies.

RWH Fort Lauderdale, LP and NOCADE, LLC this man Ron Hertel and his lover Robert Fowler his lover and partner are both very untrustworthy and will lie about anything.

You poor people who got cheated by Hertel and company, you need to conduct a Search of his many improper dealings.

Check, with you local building officials, State Contractors Board, BBB, WestLaw, Local Courts and County Clerks office for Suits, Liens, Judgments. You can use LexisNexis, ChoiceTrust and the Secretary of State or CSLB they have an extensive file on him and his company. Many valid complaints as well as many court cases against him and more Insurance Fraud matters as well. He is NOT a member of any valid Builders Association due to his poor reputation and lying ways. he is know as the worst builder in Central Calif. coast and has cheated many people and financial institution's as well. Verify the builder of your home and do a check before you Buy. If it is RW Hertel & Sons be most Careful.

I took your advice and contacted the Cities in questions and the State CSLB they all confirmed RW Hertel is a substandard builder who cuts coroners and cheats. They told me to call the last inspector hired Johnny Zamrzla of Palmdale, CA he confirmed all 100% of the Hertel homes he was hired by Hertel to inspect are defective and not to standards. So thanks for the heads up, I will try NexisLexis and Choice Trust next week. But now know Hertel is a bad bad builder.

This is the same builder who was the Front Page Story on building Below Standard homes in Rancho Obispo, San Luis Obispo, CA so I now see famed House Detective Barry Stone has just revealed he was Denied access to Hertel homes that were New ? go to housedectecive.com or go to google to see Barry Stone reports that RW Hertel refused to allow him to inspect the homes for a person who wanted to buy one ? Hertel knew he was building substandard homes and tried to hide it. The lady did not buy and now we know why the Homes are all Defective and Moldy with ongoing leaks. So once again Hertel lied and cheated and is covering up his defective homes. In addition the State CSLB issued a National Press Release on RW Hertel on 10/19/2005 again check on Google, yahoo or CNN it is all very well know Hertel is a lying cheating con man.

Hey i know who these guys are and I hope the police get them, they have another business called ( 5 Mile Bridge) another con i am most sure so good luck. Ron and Bob Fowler are in some deep poop.

Yes, Indeed this is a new business for Hertel and his co-horts in there money laundering con's. 5 mile bridge is a Wine making adventure with Hertel's land man Tom Habbick as the Boss man while Ron Hertel and Bobby " Boy" Fowler as the partners. Remember tom habbick sold his defective home in Rancho Obispo in the long history of Hertel fraud. So if you have information on 5 Mile Bridge and it's wine and money laundering schemes notify your local IRS office.

Your correct, the firm is really VERDOT Group, L.P. a sub of Hertel Group, LLC they do have an ABC License # 451098 located at 45 N Main St., Templeton, CA 93465 this is the same people involved in building defective homes. 5 Mile Bridge is the winery so to speak, I would have their wine sent to a lab first to make sure it is wine and not cheap colored water.

Well here we go again now the rains have come and all the Hertel homes are once again leaking this is after they " Fixed" now for the tenth time. The CSLB says there license to build in Calif. in No longer good. They do NOT have a valid contractors license any more. They went into the wine making business.

VERDOT, LP dba as 5 Mile Bridge is the name brand from building leaking homes to now wine I wonder what is in the wine ? it is sure to make you ill just like their leaking homes.

I am seeking additional information on the below listed companies and persons. Mail to CID PO Box 269912, Sacramento, CA [protected]

Bryan Troxler
Ronald W Hertel
Robert JS Fowler and Sandra Fowler
Charles V. Daughenty
Doug Filipponi
Rob Rossi
Karl Wittstrom
Vance Rose
Adam M daner, Esq.

Verdot Group, L.P.
5 Mile Bridge Wines ABC LIC#451089
State BOE Lic. # [protected]
RW Hertel & Sons, Inc. CSLB Lic. # 683494 Currently Expired
Margarita Vineyards, LLC
Hertel Group, LLC
16627 Avalon, LLC
HFL Express, LLC
Aprisa, LLC

any information on there activities of fraud, Loan application fraud, theft, construction fraud, Tax Fraud and tax Evasion and illegal trafficking in contraband of any kind from Wines to Narcotics to Money laundering.

This may be a bit off topic, but my family and I have filed suit in Ventura County against Sterling Hills Golf Course and Robert Fowler. I would appreciate any information you may have about underhanded tactics (harassment, intimidation, goons, slander) used by these people against people who give them trouble.

Tom, I would suggest you contact your Local FBI, IRS, SSA, State of California CSLB Investigator Patrick Halverson who is lead investigator on the Hertel/ Fowler probe. Next you should have your Lawyers contact the other Law Firms Suing Hertel & Fowler up in San Luis Obispo, CA there are numerous other Suits against them but the authorities are closely monitoring the San Luis Obispo case with keen interest. There is a boat load of information on Hertel and Fowlers history being revealed in the ongoing probe into Hertel/Fowler. Keep in mind Fowler and Hertel have moved assets to their new wine making business in San Luis Obispo, CA the brand is 5 Mile Bridge with Fowler and Hertel as the two principals. They are indeed bully's but as the investigation moves on as does the many Law Suits time and Justice will prevail in what we are being told is a Criminal Indictment. Contact the Lawyers in the San Luis Obispo, CA Lawsuits the case # is CV-050606 in this matter Hertel and Fowler tried to bully and sue buyers of his homes in the Rancho Obispo Development to silence them from revealing the massive housing fraud and defects Now Fowler and Hertel are the subject of the Lawsuit. It is a very revealing matter. The LA Times is currently working on a story on Hertel's State wide building of defective homes. Finally contact your local press to investigate and expose them. Good Luck

Saw your message, If your the same Thomas H. K! who is suing Fowler etc. your correct they are evil in their tactics. You should notify the Office of the US Treasury Dept. Criminal Investigations Division in Ventura, CA as well as local Police Ron Hertel and Partner Robert JS Fowler who has a home in Sterling Hills will do what ever it takes to cause you and your wife and daughters harm he is a dangerous person. So be careful, they are capable of hiring thugs to harm you and your family. They have discriminated and threatened many people. If you are the same Thomas H. K! i have heard Fowler mention he would like to get to you so be careful.

I fully concur with all of you about HERTEL I am a witness against him and as i see he has yet another Lawsuit against him in San Luis Obispo Superior Court case # CV-070372 not to mention the boat load of them in Ventura County Superior Court this guy is a wack job.

First he builds cheap mold homes then try's to conceal it and now he owe's just about every sub on the Central Coast. I was glad to see the CSLB took his license finally. I bet he will be in prison soon after his Criminal Trial is completed.

Know what this is the company and its owners Ronald Woolsey Hertel and his partner Robert John Samuel Fowler who are also being sued in San Luis Obispo, CA Superior Court case # CV/070372 for dumping of illegal and toxic dirt in the local waters and causing damage to our wild life. They with Tom Habbick started 5 Mile Bridge Wines do a search first there wine club is a fraud and scam here is the local business license #[protected] Plus they have more suits in Ventura, CA by thomas Kagy who is suing them as well over the fraud in the Sterlings Hills scam where fowler lives. Be advised Hertel and his buddies are in big trouble. They gave one of the Atascadero Defective homes at Las Lomas in Atascadero to wine maker Vance Rose to get him to move to San Luis Obispo to make wine at 5 mile bridge a cheap wine with Toxic Chemicals in it.

I appreciate the info. That will help reveal their brutal bullying tactics so it won't be so easy to victimize others the way they have our family!

Greetings to all those who have been cheated and lied to by RW Hertel & Sons, Inc. in addition to them no longer having a valid contractors license there are now more complaints against there bond, Bond # 267812 with American Contractors Indemnity Company of Los Angeles, CA more owners who got cheated and ripped off by Hertel Defective building in his homes in Pleasanton, CA have complaints on file so his bond money is being canceled as well so if you have issues as many of us do file against his bond the CSLB is still after them and the more complaints the better the sentence in prison for Ron Hertel and Robert Fowler.