the social media people net66 review: scam 850

Erm, Tom? The address that you've provided is completely different to the one I find on the TSMP website. It is also different to the one listed on Companies House. Lots of big companies have registered office addresses in London just to give them a presence there - if you're going to pick on these for that, then you're picking on a LOT of companies.

Just like Mr. Stephen Jones, who has a completely different address on his "Winterbourne Consultants" website to the one on registered on Companies House - one in Wolverhampton, and the other in ARIZONA, USA.

The same applies to two more of his companies, Westbourne Consultants (now dissolved) and Silver Moon Design UK (also dissolved)... whoops - should I not have mentioned that running theme?

28-07-2011: Clive Wilmot asks for clarification.

Thank you for taking the trouble to check, but there is obviously some confusion as to which company is the subject of my previous post. (It’s the one addressed on the envelope.) And also what the functions of a Registered Office Address and an operational (or ‘contact’) address are.

TSMPs website ‘contact’ address is irrelevant to this subject. They are perfectly entitled to use that address; but it is a PO box they use for operations – and NOT the Registered Office Address. Additionally, if you look at that website it DOES show the Registered Office Address as well as that ‘contact’ address.

I have just re-checked on Companies House website and the company (name, and number AND address) is indeed the one I referred to) 5 minutes ago companies House showed:

THE SOCIAL NETWORK MARKETING COMPANY LTD
4TH FLOOR OFFICE 404 ALBANY HOUSE
324/326 REGENT STREET
LONDON, ENGLAND, W1B 3HH
Company No. [protected]

It is irrelevant how many companies are registered in London or anywhere else.
There is only one (thank god!) TSNMC - trading as The Social Media People.
There is only one with that company number.
There is only one of that name and number and with that REGISTERED OFFICE ADDRESS.
TSMP is obligated, by law, to perform certain functions there regardless of its main operational base.

Like any other company - It might operate from Manchester or Timbukto, but if it’s Registered in England and Wales the REGISTERED OFFICE ADDRESS is required and must function.
(Once again – don’t take my word for it – read the law which I published the title of; it’s all in there.)
(And don’t forget TSMP has shouted VERY loudly that its Customer Services Department is based at the address I quoted – so according to TSMP they DO actually operate there (at least in part).)

If a company fails to perform the legally required functions from its REGISTERED OFFICE ADDRESS it commits a criminal offence. FACT. No argument. No doubt. No bias. No wild claim – FACT.

I can’t understand the criticism/comparison about Winterbourne Consultants LLC having a Registered Address in USA and also an address in UK. Think of ‘Coca-Cola’, or ‘Subway’ etc – US companies with operations in different countries. There is nothing wrong with that.
Just like The Social Media People it is perfectly entitled to have operations anywhere in the country, or anywhere in the world. BUT - for an England and Wales Registered Company the Registered Office Address is the legally required ‘base’ to which certain legal documents, enquiries etc can be made. If I’ve misunderstood the point on this please let me know.

28-07-2011: It seems that Tom McVey is uncomfortable with references being made to “quoting legislation & legal bollocks & drawing all over documents”.

Yes, Tom McVey – we all realise they’re not concepts familiar to you, but the trouble is they're what demonstrate the facts and reality of what you are up to.
Many readers will see that if a law says, ‘a company should do this’, or ‘a company shouldn’t do that’; and it is clearly and unequivocally demonstrated, with facts and evidence, that TSMP failed or refused to comply, their judgement will not be in your favour. Those things are not the result of my bias or opinion - nor yours.

Conversely when contributors post irrelevant and abusive rants - IGNORE facts and relevant questions, and send up smokescreens of incoherant rubbish; objective readers will also draw certain conclusions.

Tom McVey I will prove you wrong in a court of law added to this here is a message from one of your ex employee's

Hi Steve

I worked for the Social Media people for a total of 2 weeks.
Within that time I discovered how rubbish they really are. Their employment method was simple, if you could sell and not afraid of hard work you would be put forward for the role. But this was only after the trial period.
You were told you would start with a 16k basic with a target of hitting 8 sales within a week which would result in a pay rise to 18k. This was all bollocks after you had been there the two weeks.
I discovered that after the 2nd week if you didn't make a sale you would go to commission only which I saw to be unprofessional as again I was told it was a 16k basic.
People would be hired for 1 week to look at new sectors, gather all the information and make the calls and when that sector went cold they where asked to leave without any pay for that week. You would only be guaranteed a concrete position and placed on the books if you where classed as a mate or part of the clan.

Since my time there I have spoken to customers who have informed me that all their promises of reports, account managers etc has all been a con. No one ever saw any of the adverts and most the sales were all lies andwas just played by mere cleverly placed words in an e-mail.

I hope they get what is finally coming to them.

I am just saddened that all the innocent business's where lead to believe that they investment was going to provide trade.

I DO NOT WISH TO HAVE MY NAME MENTIONED WITH AN ARTICLE ALTHOUGH YOU ARE MORE THAN HAPPY TO USE THE INFORMATION.

Camilla's Chinchilla Another matching IP address of the one and infamous ### Tom McVey from the Social Media ### here to steal from eveyone they can.

Camilla's Chinchilla this thread is about THE SOCIAL MEDIA PEOPLE, again the dumb ### idiot gets all his facts wrong. Good hunting idiot, In relation to Winterbourne Consultants Ltd now disolved there are no complaints on the Internet of ripping people off as you claim. Second there is a Winterbourne Consultants LLC registered in the USA That company is not owned by me as I sold it. Again there are no complaints of scams like your outfits. Then you talk about me working for a loans company. Fact is I have never received a payslip or any wage from any loan company so yet again your alleged facts are all wrong.

Again you can explain all this to the Judge in the court room and hope a jury of your peers believe all your crap.

I guess in Tom McVeys words all the jury and the judge will all be liars and he will be Mr Sweet and innocent.

But it will be to late when the Official Receiver takes everything you own and your put out of business for life.

Camilla's Chimp
Do you know how many Stephen Jones’ there are in Wales? About 200, 000 at a guess what a complete ### for making that assumption. They are trying to get me to lose a job that I don’t have, Go for it idiot perhaps then a few more people will be suing your sorry ###. I will gladly help anyone that wants to sue these ###s.

REMEMBER IF YOUR READING THIS AND HAVE PAID THIS SCAM OUTFIT CLAIM THE MONEY BACK VIA YOUR BANK ANYONE NEEDING HELP WITH THIS SEND ME AN EMAIL AND I WILL GLADLY ASSIST YOU. THERE CONTRACT MEANS NOTHING IN LAW AND DON’T LET THEM BULLY YOU THEY WONT DO ANYTHING AS THEY ARE SCARED OF ANY LEGAL ACTION.

I am going to use a new signature on here its this and it will be posted on every post

REMEMBER IF YOU’RE READING THIS AND HAVE PAID THIS SCAM OUTFIT CLAIM THE MONEY BACK VIA YOUR BANK ANYONE NEEDING HELP WITH THIS SEND ME AN EMAIL AND I WILL GLADLY ASSIST YOU. THERE CONTRACT MEANS NOTHING IN LAW AND DON’T LET THEM BULLY YOU THEY WONT DO ANYTHING AS THEY ARE SCARED OF ANY LEGAL ACTION.

28-07-2011: Check the evidence and form your own judgment on The Social Media People.

The main issue is the appalling business practices, dishonesty, and lack of integrity of The Social Media People. Neil McVey and Tom McVey ARE The Social Media People.

Things get muddied when so much 'whistling in the dark' (by virtue of smokescreen, insult and rant) is thrown about by The Social Media People.
What possible logic could there be in Tom McVey attempting to argue his case by claiming I’m publishing 'doctored documents', when EVERYONE who reads the documents and my comments can simply consult the official government website to see the originals which have never been in my possession, and could not possibly have been ‘doctored’.

No-ones interpretation needs to be considered. An objective judgment can be made by every person who has enough curiosity, fair-mindedness, or desire to make an accurate assessment.
Whilst I am confident in the information conveyed in the official papers – which support my statements; I sometimes think that The Social Media People is not completely truthful!

To check the post code 'errors' for the Net66 Web Services Ltd and The Social Media People Ltd. -
Use this link to 'Webcheck':
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/b1b66b6f14a7c51ad6fedb828392a815/wcframe?name=accessCompanyInfo

Once on the page, enter the company number in the box. (Try: [protected] to start with ). (Or the name will also work, but adds another step.)
This will show a page of basic information (as attached here)
Click on ‘Order Information on this company.’ The page which comes up often provides some additional information.
None of the above costs anything.
For £1 you can get the Certificate of Incorporation of a company – downloaded within seconds, and see much more detail.

Attached to this post are 2 more unedited, un-doctored pages from Companies House ‘Webcheck’. Just click on the link:
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk/661b9145e390414f4bae4ce0c0011910/wcprodorder?ft=1

See how simple it is to check who tells the truth.
If it’s me lying – you now know. If it’s The Social Media People lying – well you already knew!
Now you can check the others – and you’ll get the same confirmation. (Although for Certificates of Incorporation it’ll cost you £1 per company.)

28-07-2011: The issue is the refusal to recognise facts.

Tom McVey: We both know that the documents just posted are genuine.
If, by the remotest possibilty Camilla C is not Tom McVey then she is showing that she is totally blinding herself to the truth. It would have taken less time to check those documents with the official source than to write one abusive message - let alone two.
Tomilla: Just check. It's quite simple. And unless you are as simple as you appear, you would be able to do the check. In refusing, all you do is confirm that when presented with a fact you can not or will not recognise it. So why would anyone listen to anything you say? I've been accused of bias, but you are in a league of your own.

you know what you lot, i dont really care about all this pathetic personal ###, i feel i was ripped off by this company and so do many other people

Well said Humphrey, spot on. What's the point in all this anger and why are so many posters being abused?

Because Stephen Jones isn't doing his "good work" of "uncovering the bad guys" for anything other than money in his own pocket - eventually he hopes some companies will give him a wod of fivers to shut him up. It won't happen.

Personally I don't know the practises of TSMP, nor does it really bother me - but what bothers me is the fact that this man thinks he can get away with slandering companies by buying a [censored]load of hosting and domains (which clearly, Go Daddy has cottoned onto and disconnected themselves with him entirely, especially after creating the strangely named "Go Duddy" website), and he's brainwashed others into joining in with his filthy little schemes.

And yes, he DOES have connections with Yes Loans. Take a look at this hilarious piece of reputation management, using the good old "kssbcm" username:

http://creditcarddebtfree.tk/unenforceable-credit-agreements-wwwbeneficialclaimscouk.html

(Beneficial Claims & Yes Loans are ran by the same bunch of con artists - by the way, read the first four comments before the final for the most hilarious affect!)

Can anyone give me any advice?
Ashamed to say I have been caught by the Social Media People scam. I have only just realised they have taken 5 payments out of my account totaling £709.20.
Any advice?
Janette

camilla4785 So yourr going to ### slap me hey? Nice threat of a criminal offence keep it going guess where you will be visiting and then in previous comments you should check Jones v Halifax, Jones v Lloyds TSB a current case Jones v Edwin Coe LLP so I never took anyone to court, Again you get all your facts totally wrong again.

Janette T I hope your not using your real name. as you can see people associated with this company threaten violence and threaten businesses I suggest that you follow this,

REMEMBER IF YOU’RE READING THIS AND HAVE PAID THIS SCAM OUTFIT CLAIM THE MONEY BACK VIA YOUR BANK ANYONE NEEDING HELP WITH THIS SEND ME AN EMAIL AND I WILL GLADLY ASSIST YOU. THERE CONTRACT MEANS NOTHING IN LAW AND DON’T LET THEM BULLY YOU THEY WONT DO ANYTHING AS THEY ARE SCARED OF ANY LEGAL ACTION.

Camilla's Chinchilla, You talk about me having no balls I suggest you reveal yourself who you actually are. You mouth off like a little ### and you obviously think you know who I am, but if your not some scared little wimp you would say exactly who you are. By the way you should also read Jones v British Telecom. yet another case that is open to the general public.

Again anyone dealing with The Social Media People

REMEMBER IF YOU’RE READING THIS AND HAVE PAID THIS SCAM OUTFIT CLAIM THE MONEY BACK VIA YOUR BANK ANYONE NEEDING HELP WITH THIS SEND ME AN EMAIL AND I WILL GLADLY ASSIST YOU. THERE CONTRACT MEANS NOTHING IN LAW AND DON’T LET THEM BULLY YOU THEY WONT DO ANYTHING AS THEY ARE SCARED OF ANY LEGAL ACTION.

29-07-2011: The issue is The Social Media People defrauding customers.

Much of the volume of recent posts has been to provoke and deliver exchanges which divert attention from the issue which is the title of this thread:
"The Social Media People, Net66. Complaints - scam"

There are lots of genuine complaints. The Social Media People and Net66 do 'scam' customers.

Although aggrieved customers know by now that a rational, businesslike response is unlikely from TSMP, the discussion should be concentrated, and reconcentrated when necessary, back to the subject.

Tom, you're right.

We should create a new thread entitled "The Stephen Jones Badbiz Scam", pertaining to this sad little individual and his fetish of signing up to every service in the bloody country, trying his hardest to shoehorn some kind of complaint out of it and threatening to them to court because he can't ready the T&Cs.

Funny how Stephen ignores all the comments about him being associated with one of the most notoriously poor companies in the UK who has SCAMMED, yes, genuinely SCAMMED people out of hundreds, if not thousands of pounds and providing a NON-EXISTENT SERVICE.

But anyway, back to TSMP...

29-07-2011:
Whatever other threads develop, this one is now back on track to focus on The Social Media People and its devious and criminal activities.

A comment made by Clive_Wilmot can certainly be applied to The Social Media People. They:
"SCAMMED, yes, genuinely SCAMMED people out of hundreds, if not thousands of pounds and providing a NON-EXISTENT SERVICE."

Ok, there seems to be some very bad feeling towards Steve Badbiz Jones from a few posters. Why include others or bring it on to a thread about a completely different issue? Can't one of you open a thread devoted to him and his companies rather than using this thread? I'm pretty sure he'd reply.
Regards Uth

Morning all,

Firstly, although I fully appreciate & would go as far to say I support Camilla & Clives comments. I have to confirm it is NOT me, neither anyone in my organisation.
Having said that, it is nice to see some truth on these forums, yes, we too get AT LEAST 8 requests per month offering a "reputation management" service from comments both on this forum (well known for extortion) and also badbiz (well known for delusion & lies). Everyone of our clients receives a personal account manager & if there is any misunderstandings we have a network of customer care agents.
The malicious insinuations on here are primarily by Steve BadBiz Jones who has influenced others around him & put words in people mouths time after time. This is unacceptable & as far as his own personal ethics, WELL!
they leave a lot to be desired. He is a preacher who does not practice his own preaching - aka A LIAR & A CHEAT!
Why has he spent all that time trying to influence people to make us look unethical when all along this individual is linked with some very unsavoury practices have a look at:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001335499181&sk=wall
Blatently his profile, set up to get traffic to his sites, just like:
https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100000198055038&sk=wall
On which he changed his profile pic from his own pic to someone he has probably stole from google or something on the 13th June 2011, I think it was Steve Jackson who pointed that out.
Now we know his wife (or him) also commenting on:
http://creditcarddebtfree.tk/unenforceable-credit-agreements-wwwbeneficialclaimscouk.html
The puzzle is slowly fitting together, this individual has influenced people around him, put words in their mouth & has gave the impression we are unethical for too long, now his time is up and the liar he is is exposed for all to see, what a con merchant.

Let me also quote the ASA (advertising authority) when commenting a website (maybe set up by Steve Jones) about The Social Media People Ltd (UK), this site implied we were a scam the ASA say:

The ASA noted that the complainant’s company was called The Social Media People and understood that any consumers searching for ‘Social Media People’ via Google would see the advertisers’ sponsored search ad appear alongside the search engine results. We considered that the ad was alleging that the Social Media People was a company running a scam and because we had not seen evidence to support that claim

Make your own mind up. Who do you believe, a well funded, well resourced authority who specifically monitor advertising online or Steve "BadBiz DebtAddiction Winterbourne" Jones. And his side kick Tom Faulkner who, honestly has it in for us because we exposed a website set up by his pupils making some serious accusations, if he continues to LIE and call us unethical, maybe we will have to put forward the evidence so people can see his true colours and understand his motive, after all its been proved beyond reasonable doubt that he had his advertising campaign on Facebook and we delivered as after he lied to the bank to try to get a refund they found AGAINST him as they seen the proof. Tom, a bit of advice, stop doing what Steve tells you, its obvious your not interested in the truth otherwise you would'nt constantly openly support a liar! call it a day with the untrue allegations, the truth has come out you will not be extorting any money from us.

Also Janette T I have sent you a personal message if you are a genuine client we are keen to speak and rectify your opinions and offer help & a speedy resolution. Although why call us a scam without making contact, also, I can confirm we only have ONE Janette on our books, who has only been on board 2month. Also £709.20. /5 = 141.82 our service is £99 per month + VAT = £118.80 x 5 so I must admit I doubt this is a genuine claim. If your is genuine I would be happy to help.

Kind Regards
Tom McVey

Er Clive,

Yes you are right, but most companies don't try and give the impression also that they are actually working from that address as Steve Jackson, 'Customer Services Director' did on numerous occasions and on this forum. Take a look - if you don't know already. Seemed to have stopped doing that now.

You seem to be forgetting that most of us are concerned on here about the SMP and not a side show about Badbiz.

29-07-2011: The Social Media People breaches confidentiality?

Anyone who has had dealings with ASA knows that when they correspond they require complainents to maintian details of communications as confidential - and not be re-transmitted. Only when what they term 'an Adjudication' is made is the process publicly apparent. Thus quoting the ASA statement (if its true?) breaches that confidentiality. Something not new to the antics displayed by TSMP.

TSMP repeatedly attempts to dismiss me as a puppet of BadBiz. Just look back at the text of what was just written (more thn once).
Then look much further back, and you can see that my dissatisfaction with, and questioning of the ethics, morals, integrity, business practices of The Social Media People began long before BadBiz came on the scene.
Additionally, my first post offered TSMP the opportunity to disprove my claims by publishing communications between us. But instead of using the opportunity to use clear, objective evidence, it ignored the offer and just began the pathetic attempts at character assasination etc.
Have I mentioned the term 'smokescreen' before?
And, of course, you've seen that when TSMP documents are publicised they are very uncomfortable about it. TSMP can not bear to defend the indefensible information conveyed by its own documentation. Once again a smokescreen goes up.

TSMP COULD have used evidence and reasoned arguement in its attempts to prove its case; but it chose insult, rant, defamation and any amount of unverified claims - against me and anyone else it feels threatens its criminal, fraudulent, unethical activities.

I have (usually) provided evidence of claims I make. TSMP has rarely provided anything other than diversionary tactics.

The ASA has already acted on at least a copule of occasions to reign in TSMPs false claims (thus the 'coincidental removal of the infamous 'Our Clients' page, and the removal of the substitute 'Reviews' page which also included fake reviews at times when ASA was in touch. Although apparently removed, reviews are still there but have been downgraded to unverifiable, anonymous reviews.
See:
http://thesocialmediapeople.co.uk/blog-reviews/social-media-people-reviews/

TSMP will no doubt continue to attempt to defend itself by attacking others. But objective readers can look at the evidence, check the sources and make their own judgement.

Remember - the issue is The Social Media People and its scams.

And somewhat amusingly I was directed to this site by The Social Media People.

Before TSMP wrongly accused me of libel, and directed me to this site, to see the post which offended them so much, I was blissfully unaware of it.
TSMP accused me of libel because it believed I was making waves by asking its Blue-Chip 'non-Clients' how happy they were to be helping TSMP advertise its services.
TSMPs suspicions had been demonstrated previously when a 'fake' solicitor phoned me to accuse me of slander.
many will have seen that TSMP has never responded to that question 'Who was the solicitor?' Just like it never responds to any material point, question or complaint. And a recorded telephone message from TSMP to me confirms that they wanted me to believe a solicitor had phoned me. (Many will have heard that message.)

TSMPs suspicians were at least partly correct - I had contacted many of its Blue-Chip 'non Clients' - not to slander the company but to ask about the association. ALL said they had never given permission for their good names to be used to support TSMP. The majority said there had been no dealings whatsoever. Some said there had been some minor dealings but they were unsatisfactory. Some successfully had their logos removed, others found it more difficult to get any cooperation.
For the preceding points I am not offering proof, as my conversations with those companies and ASA were confidential. However, the removal of the 'Our Clients' page from the website coincided with the involvement of ASA relating to misleading advertising and false claims.

We all know that TSMP doesn't like me. I don't like them much. But those feelings do not affect the validity of the accusations supported by solid evidence. These companies are scams.
No ethics. No Integrity. No ability to address a criticism, question or arguement. Defrauding customers intentionally. Flouting the laws of business.

Camilla/Camillas Chinchilla could you just go away you are lowering the tone of the whole forum with a ludicrously high level of unprofessionalism, foul language and slander. Funnily enough encouraged and condoned by TSMP's own MrMcVey. The social media people are a vile scam, anyone on this is here for a reason, they've been conned, or they're Tom McVey under an alias, because you don't get satisfied customers on a complaints board. I can speak for myself at least for defo, and assume JanetteT and Lady1000 etc have been victims also. We have all been scammed and harassed by this company and the genuine advice from genuinely dissatisfied clients of theirs, is not to go near them.

29-07-2011: Tom Faulkner continues to post dates of all his comments & misleading statements.

Yet another attempt to insinuate we are unethical.

Tom Faulkner says: "Remember - the issue is The Social Media People and its scams."

The ASA (Advertising Standards Authority) Says: "consumers searching for ‘Social Media People’ via Google would see the advertisers’ sponsored search ad appear alongside the search engine results. We considered that the ad was alleging that the Social Media People was a company running a scam and because we had not seen evidence to support that claim"

Who Are The ASA: The ASA is the UK’s independent watchdog committed to maintaining high standards in advertising for the benefit of consumers, advertisers and society at large. Visit this section for an introduction to the ASA, our remit, history and meet our senior team members.

Who is Tom Faulkner: A driving instructor that works alone in the Brighton area. Who has made almost 200 negative & untrue comments about us, because he did not see an add on Facebook.com. (even though when he lied to his bank to call us a scam & say we didnt do the Add we forwarded the info.They obviously ruled against him because they looked at evidence NOT opinion)

Please beleive who ever you will.

I must state I can not emphasise enough my regret that we are 23 pages full of accusations & insinuations. As a family business we have pride in our work and business ethics. For more than the past decade we have endeavoured to provide the highest level of service possible and we have received some fantastic feedback built long lasting business relationships with people we are proud to have worked with. We have shared many happy memories with many good people but, with regret, of late we have been forced to fend off some horrible accusations and, admittedly, we have had to stoop down a level or two. Please do NOT believe some of the lies on here, to read some of them you would think we were criminals. We never said that we have kept 100% of our customers happy 100% of the time, but we HAVE gave 100% and nothing less, judge us on our results NOT on peoples opinions, which for all you know could be fabricated lies.(and based on what the ASA have concluded it looks as though thats exactly what it is!)

It seems that the ASA staement quoted by TSMP was the result of an adjudication, so was not confidential, and therefore was not a breach of confidentiality.
I can't believe I'm saying this but: 'I apologise for getting that wrong.'

However it does NOT say that TSMP isn't a scam. It states:
The ASA noted that the complainant’s company was called The Social Media People and understood that any consumers searching for ‘Social Media People’ via Google would see the advertisers’ sponsored search ad appear alongside the search engine results. We considered that the ad was alleging that the Social Media People was a company running a scam and because we had not seen evidence to support that claim, we considered that that implication was disparaging to the complainant’s company. We therefore concluded that the ad denigrated The Social Media People.

Therefore all it states is that the ASA has not seen proof TSMP is a scam.

I wonder how sympathetic readers will be to hearing that someone made an unsubstantiated claim about the integrity of TSMP?
Now, has ANYONE on this forum ever made an unsubstantiated claim?

All remaining elements of my 2 previous posts remain unaltered by that mistake. (But Tom's gonna love it!)

29-07-2011:
The Social Media People states that I insinuate they ae unethical. That is a lie.

I categorically, unequivocally state: The Social Media people is unethical.

29-07-2011:
But Tom McVey - You ARE criminals.
Some crimes you may still be getting away with, but by not reponding to a 'Request for Company Information' and not displaying your company name at the registered office you have demonstrably committed criminal acts. (Companies Act).
Some may say 'small crimes', and possibly so but crimes nonetheless.

29-07-2011: Evidence
Another point about the ASA adjudication. The use of that piece of 'evidence' - which is certainly what it is - shows that on the rare occasion that The Social Media People can use some evidence in its favour it is very happy and quick to do so.
Yet - when volumes of evidence which do not support its case are presented - they are not man enough to acknowledge or address it. They send up a smokescreen of abuse and irrelevancies.

29-07-2011: Tom Faulkner continues to post dates of all his comments & misleading statements. AKA Lies and very un-credible opinions. - Everytime he posts we will continue to prove why his comments should be ignored.

Tom Faulkner's opinion: "categorically & unequivocally" WORTHLESS

He has repeatedly called us a scam because he didn't work out of the advert he did with us. We KNOW it is to do with his local reputation, but we will not post that info as the police didn't actually gain the evidence to charge him - although the network of solicitors & investigators have also requested to see some of that info & if we don't provide it we are sure somebody will. - Then based on EVIDENCE! - not opinion or accusation or claims that contradict governing bodies, you can make up your own mind.

Tom Faulkner says: "Remember - the issue is The Social Media People and its scams."

The ASA (Advertising Standards Authority) Says: "consumers searching for ‘Social Media People’ via Google would see the advertisers’ sponsored search ad appear alongside the search engine results. We considered that the ad was alleging that the Social Media People was a company running a scam and because we had not seen evidence to support that claim"

Who Are The ASA: The ASA is the UK’s independent watchdog committed to maintaining high standards in advertising for the benefit of consumers, advertisers and society at large. Visit this section for an introduction to the ASA, our remit, history and meet our senior team members.

Who is Tom Faulkner: A driving instructor that works alone in the Brighton area. Who has made almost 200 negative & untrue comments about us, because he did not see an add on Facebook.com. (even though when he lied to his bank to call us a scam & say we didnt do the Add we forwarded the info.They obviously ruled against him because they looked at evidence NOT opinion)

Please beleive who ever you will.

I must state I can not emphasise enough my regret that we are 23 pages full of accusations & insinuations. As a family business we have pride in our work and business ethics. For more than the past decade we have endeavoured to provide the highest level of service possible and we have received some fantastic feedback built long lasting business relationships with people we are proud to have worked with. We have shared many happy memories with many good people but, with regret, of late we have been forced to fend off some horrible accusations and, admittedly, we have had to stoop down a level or two. Please do NOT believe some of the lies on here, to read some of them you would think we were criminals. We never said that we have kept 100% of our customers happy 100% of the time, but we HAVE gave 100% and nothing less, judge us on our results NOT on peoples opinions, which for all you know could be fabricated lies.(and based on what the ASA have concluded it looks as though thats exactly what it is!)

29-07-2011:
When The Social Media People states: "Please do NOT believe some of the lies on here, to read some of them you would think we were criminals."
Are people to conclude that the "some of the lies" we shouldn't believe are any which don't come from them; and the remainder of the lies, those we should believe are the ones peddled by The Social Media People?

There may be lies on here accusing TSMP of criminality, but there are also truths demonstrating their criminality.

"We have shared many happy memories with many good people" - Aaaah isn't that lovely!

The only reference from TSMP to the ASA noted they had not seen enough evidence to suggest the Social Media People were a scam. It was also suggested that the ad had been created by a disgruntled ex-employee, who obviously felt there was something wrong to go to all the effort of building a website, buying the domain name www.the-social-media-people-scam.co.uk and running an Adwords campaign and I quote his thoughts on TSMP:
'...THIS COMPANY IS A SCAM!

TRUST ME THE AMMOUNT OF ADVERTS YOU RECEIVE IS NO WAY NEAR ENOUGH TO MAKE ANY TYPE OF RETURN, AS 80 PERCENT OF FACEBOOK USERS IGNORE THE ADS ANYWAY.

TRYING TO CANCEL IS ANOTHER STORY. THEY RE-BILL YOU MONTH AFTER MONTH EVEN AFTER YOU CANCEL THE ONE MONTH TRIAL!

AND DONT THINK OF WORKING FOR THEM EITHER, AS THEY WILL KEEP YOU ON THEN GET RID OF YOU AFTER 2 WEEKS WITHOUT PAY! UNLESS YOUR DOIN 10 DEALS A WEEK!

I WAS THEYRE 6 MONTHS THEN LEFT,

SCAMMING ###...'

So it appears that it is not just the people who have been scammed by the McVey's who are pissed off, it is also their employees that they piss off too! What a lovely company to be involved with on all fronts!
Role on the clowns, over to you McVeys

We just received some negative reviews on this website, the I found this thread could FBG Interent be the new face fo these people?

http://fbginternetscam.blogspot.com/2011/07/fbg-internet-employees-are-now-breaking.html

In reality I doubt it, there are a lot of blagging Sammer companies out there and it would appear that McVeys have a tendency to arrange their businesses around Portugal Street Manchester as there trading address, due to their residency in Heywood Greater Manchester (address details by request) not their registered address which they have a various PO Box numbers in London.

Dear Mr McVey,
Unfortunately, I was stupid enough to fall for the facebook scam and the google scam. We have never had a single click on the facebook page, and the promise of being in the top 3 positions with 10 phrases is a total lie. The highest I found for one of the phrases was on page 5. I couln't find us with any of the other phrases. The funny thing is that we were on page 4 before I paid you. The total is now £889.20, not so funny!
Janette T

Good morning readers,

I am forced YET AGAIN to post to make sure anybody who may read this understands the difference between fact & opinion. There are many many accusations on here of scam, scam fraud this & that.

Steve Badbiz Jones (who works for one of the largest scam outfits in the country) now has a new alias, & has been up to his old tricks of posting on here at 2 in the morning again, look at the times on Saturday, you have to wonder about this man & his alias's, they really are worrying to us normal human beings.

I have invited any genuine customers with questions or apprehensions to myself direct so we can deal with efficiently & speedily. If you wish to call us a scam, please don't expect to be believed, complaints are fine, with the amount of customers we have we expect to have unhappy customers, but calling us a scam is different, not ethical & certainly NOT TRUE.

Please read these details:

The ASA (Advertising Standards Authority) Says: "consumers searching for ‘Social Media People’ via Google would see the advertisers’ sponsored search ad appear alongside the search engine results. We considered that the ad was alleging that the Social Media People was a company running a scam and because we had not seen evidence to support that claim"

Who Are The ASA: The ASA is the UK’s independent watchdog committed to maintaining high standards in advertising for the benefit of consumers, advertisers and society at large. Visit this section for an introduction to the ASA, our remit, history and meet our senior team members.

I must state I can not emphasise enough my regret that we are 24 pages full of accusations & insinuations. As a family business we have pride in our work and business ethics. For more than the past decade we have endeavoured to provide the highest level of service possible and we have received some fantastic feedback built long lasting business relationships with people we are proud to have worked with. We have shared many happy memories with many good people but, with regret, of late we have been forced to fend off some horrible accusations and, admittedly, we have had to stoop down a level or two. Please do NOT believe some of the lies on here, to read some of them you would think we were criminals. We never said that we have kept 100% of our customers happy 100% of the time, but we HAVE gave 100% and nothing less, judge us on our results NOT on peoples opinions, which for all you know could be fabricated lies.(and based on what the ASA have concluded it looks as though thats exactly what it is!)

01-08-2011:
Request to The Social Media People to provide accurate information to help all readers.

To give The Social Media People an opportunity to present the correct information – and thus avoid the possibility of others ‘lying’ or presenting their ‘opinions’ - I wonder if The Social Media People would like to tell everyone what information is required to be included in a VAT Invoice?

Again, sadly, no questions nor customers concerns are answered, just a quote from the ASA which neither confirms or denies that the TSMP are a scam however, Tom Mcvey has put a spin on it to his own end. Some might say fair enough but taking into account the ASA did NOT say they were not!
Yet TSMP condemn others (Tom Faulkner for example) for quoting and providing legitimate paperwork which discredits them with the lack of professionalism, spelling and grammatical errors, basic arithmetic - and that's not including Tom McVey's threatening behavior, both verbal (phone calls) and written as well as pretending to be a solicitor and a non existent customer services' Company Director. These Facts are clearly plain to see by all yet Tom McVey clearly does not and will not engage with anybody who questions his or his father's ethics, propriety, honesty and professionalism.
Why would that be? Umh hard question(s)?
No! The questions are not hard, but to answer them Tom McVey would have to engage in the truth and use the integrity that all professional and legitimate businesses engage, and do you really think that will happen?
I think not!