C.R. England
Reviews and Complaints

My father got employed with CR England back in Jun 2010, and it's been hell ever since with these people. Basically it started with a huge amount of lies and misleading information provided by Ryan Johnson, a driver manager for CR England in Utah. My mom was flying in for 3 months from Europe, and dad asked for 3 weeks off around begining of Oct or end of Sep, and they said no probelm...of course come that time, they said they couldnt do that, they gave him 3 days instead, and that messed everything up for me because i bought specific tickets for my mom, now i had to send her back to California where my dad lived so they can see each other for 3 days, a huge financial and family mess. Then, of course comes the money issue, he wasnt making crap with them, i constantly had to send him money for food and rent, basically so he can survive, and back in Nov he put his paperwoks to quit, and he was supposed to get a load back to Utah to drop off the truck and quit the company. Well it's Dec 22 now, and they keep sneding him back east and to Texas, and back east again, with ho intent from the company to send him to Utah and drop off the truck. They are a piece of crap, they are keeping him on the road to milk whatever they can out of him, and in the meanwhile, they keep telling him "we are working on it"...supposedly working on sending him back to Utah...well, today, Dec 22 they gave him another load back east. Needles to say he quit and the truck has been turned in to the CR England yard in Laredo. These people have no soul, they are scammers and liars, they dont understand when you treat a person like that, it affects his or her entire family and friends, and creating a whole set of issues for everyone, just so they can keep making money.

My name is Mike, I applied to C.R. England to get some OTR experience. I already had my class "A" with endorsements and wanted to get some OTR experience, well I put in an application with them and a recruiter called me back. she asked me some questions and asked what I wanted from C.R. England. I said I wanted to be a Company " SOLO" Driver and that I wanted to be trained for winter and mountain driving, she said that I would get what I wanted. She faxed me the application and included all the paper work. I filled it all out and sent it back to her. I was "ACCEPTED into their program and started the training at a "REDUCED FEE". Anyway, when I finished the class room and course work, it was made perfectly clear by no uncertain terms that as a student driver and trainee, I was "NOT" an Employee of C.R. England. well that was ok with me. I was just there for the experience. Well while I was out on the road with a trainer that onoly had 5 months of driving experience I soon found out that this guy wasnt making any money, he was a lease driver and was broke as hell he didnt have a C.B., phone or any money. I had to pay for his meals, showers and laundry, let him use my phone and pay for the toll roads. This guy was broke and had some seriously horrid oral hygene. I really felt sorry for him. i had also done some asking aroud at the truck stops about C.R. England and found out from company drivers and lease operators that England was not hiring anymore company drivers. i called the recruiter and asked if this was true she said it was infact true and appologized. she said if i wanted to drive for C.R. England i would have to lease a truck. well with all that said, i started to investigate the lease program and after doing the numbers with my step brother whom owns his own trucking company (woulda went to work for him but his insurance wouldnt carry me because i didnt have enough experience) and my step father we found out that C.R. England pays .90 cents a mile to lease operators well after tax, broker fees, pallet charges, insurance, licensing, fuel, permits and maintenance it was actually .035 cents a mile in your pocket. i just couldnt afford to do it. i opted out of the training at that point. mind you they said i was NOT an employee of C.R. England. Well i was on unemloyment throu this whole time. i didnt get paid as they said i would and wouldnt you know it when it came time to renew my unemployment and the unemployment agency contacts England, they say i was an employee. now my unemployment has been cancelled and they want me to pay back more that $12, 000.00 because i quit my job and because i was an employee of C.R. England i wasnt entitled to benefits. now im between a rock and a hard place. i am filling a legal complaint with the Attorney Generals office here in Las Vegas and we'll see where that goes. if any of you have a story similar to this maybe you can contact me and we can all get together and put a stop to this. You can call [protected] to respond to this.

Thanks.

Mike

I submitted an online application for employment on the C.R. England (CRE) website on May 16, 2009. I was contacted by Jennifer Skinner, Senior Recruiter, with a job offer on June 11, 2009. This offer included: (1) employment after completion of four days of orientation, and (2) ten days of driving with a trainer. I accepted the offer. She offered Greyhound bus transportation to their facility in Salt Lake City, UT. I opted to fly since the departure date was on Fathers Day and it was a 9½-hour bus ride from Reno to Salt Lake City. She said that CRE would reimburse me $100 of the plane fare.

I arrived in SLC on the afternoon of June 21st. The next day, Monday, I began their orientation. That afternoon I was called back into the recruiting office with the news that there was “a problem with my paperwork”. There, I was told that my driving experience was inadequate and that I’d have to attend their school for three weeks (the cost would be deducted from my future pay) and that I would have to spend 30 days on the road with a trainer (at a reduced rate of pay). (I’d had my CDL-A for four years). I refused and said that that wasn’t what Jennifer and I had agreed upon before I left Reno. I was met with silence and a stare.

Once back in my quarters, I called Jennifer and left a message that I was awaiting her direction as how I was to be getting back home. There was never a response from her so I made the arrangements for my return for the next day, June 23rd.

Once back in Reno, I emailed Jennifer and asked what arrangements I could make for CRE to reimburse me for the money I had spent. I heard back from her on the 24th. She stated, “I guess our compliance department saw your experience different than I did.” She also asked that I send her the plane receipts for my travel and she’d see what she could do. (I emailed those to her on the 25th.) Later, she wrote, “…we reimburse for travel once an applicant is hired, so I will see if I can get an exception made.” This reimbursement policy was never discussed beforehand.

I have not heard from her since. My last email was on a July 14th, in which I said that I had not heard from her.

I contend that CRE violated a verbal contract made between myself and their Senior Recruiter. I feel that they have a well-rehearsed ploy to get prospective employees to SLC and then, once there, change their offer of employment for financial gain. Once I refused their amended offer for additional schooling and training, I, and my former training and experience, were set aside and ignored. It was obvious to me that once I was no longer a source of monetary gain, I was on my own.

Since, I’ve spoken to other drivers and they’ve said that CRE “is good for that”. “They get you there and tell you have to go through their program if you want the job. It’s hard to refuse because you’re already there and you don’t want to leave and start over.”

After not hearing from them for a month or more I contacted a lawyer with my story. He said that he’d heard about this problem with C.R. England before. He said that what they are doing is called “bait and switch”. And, the best way to approach the problem is with a civil lawsuit. Anyone interested?

Guess Many have learned that ENGLAND stands for Every New Guy Lasts About Ninety Days.

The way the Pay and Lease programs are structured, the company gets the work done, their trucks and fuel paid for by you and YOU get nothing! Unless you consider $100.65 for 2500 miles of driving a good pay!

Obama could use this program as a weight loss program by requiring overweight people to work for CR England! The entire family would be homeless and lose weight at the same time...Good benefits...HUH?

C R England will soon be a trucking company of the past. No business can continue behaving like a criminal that steals and doesnt care who sees. They have stepped-up their abuse of their drivers as for as they can in every creative way one can imagine. When a company begins to use such methods, it is usually an indication that the company is experiencing difficult times. Desperate people do desperate things. Businesses are the same way. The best way to quickly put this company out of its misery is to stop their student/school programs from which they find new victims.

There are several reasons for C. R. England behaving badly these days. You could actually make a good living at one time as a independent contractor/leasee with them. The greatest reason for them being so tight is the increased competition in difficult economic times. Loads are harder to find and it is sometimes necessary to take very tight loads. Ofcourse, it is the driver's fault if the load is late. You will be accused of poor trip planning, or you failed to notify your DM that there is bumper to bumper traffic in Chicago for several miles during peak hours that the load planners failed to consider. But, never turn down a load.
They have obtained loads heading east from Chicago for me several times. The required arrival time for the load means having to take an unapproved toll road ( no reimbursment for toll fees). I was basically working for free after deducting the incurred cost. Did I begin rejecting such loads? Ofcourse. I will not work for free but C.R. England will try to make you a virtual slave.
A lady in Portland, Oregon suffered a seizure and hit the side of my new 2010 Freightliner. There was atleast $1500 in damage. Without seeing the damage, I was told by the insurance obtained through C.R.England that the damage was less than $500 so it would be deducted from my maintainance fund. I was too broke to afford the downtime for repairs and have seen not one penny of my money in that fund ($3500). You will see little if any of that if you break the lease.
C.R. England basically encourages team driving which requires, in most cases, that you become a trainer. I played the game. Let me tell ya. Even though you may get lucky and get a good trainee, you dont he is exceptional for atleast the first week. Try sleeping well with one eye open while learning to trust your new 2nd seat. I will not elaborate about the horrifying experiences that did happen. Yes, I drove while being exceedingly tired for 10 hours.
C.R. England is so intent on squeezing all they can out of their drivers that they have lost sight of their primary mission. That mission is to deliver freight safely and on-time. Their new mission statement would be this:
To lease a truck to our students thru our leasing company and have them purchase our insurance
and work them just enough to barely get by until their loan is paid then starve them out and make
room for another student.
Many times my students made more than I.

When I began prior to signing a lease agreement, I figured on driving an average of 500 miles per day everyday. That is 3500 miles per week. Not a bad check even now. I sometimes would sit in a truck stop for two days waiting for a new load though plenty of hours were available. One week there were only 1800 miles driven and my settlement indicated a negative balance of 125 dollars to be deducted from the next settlement. Try and live on that.

My boyfriend was just hired on with CRE in July of 2010. It has been nothing but hell ever since. He went to the school in Salt Lake City, and with previous driving history he was told that he would only have to attend the orientation and would then be placed on a truck with his phase II trainer. He liked his trainer as an individual person but didn't really feel that he was being taught anything; he felt that his trainer saw this as an opportunity to nap. In fact, he and the trainer both earned a MAJOR log violation because of an oversight on his trainer's part. We decided that the best course of action was for him to become an O/O for CRE and to lease a truck. WOW! Was that the wrong decision. His first week out, he drove 2713 miles and his check is a whopping $253.72. We knew going into it that there would be fees and fuel charges that we would be assessing by choosing the O/O option, we just didn't know the extent to which we would be charged. Today is day 3 (!) that he's been sitting in a yard in Texas. He is burning fuel (that we'll be charged for while he's sitting there not making any money) and has no next dispatch. His DM gave him a load to Jacksonville, FL (30 minutes from home) and then took it away with no explanation. He delivered his load to Texas on Friday at 0800 and was told that his next dispatch would come shortly. It never came. He messaged the DM AND the after hours employees to no avail. His DM went home to his family for the weekend and left his employee sitting at a loading dock in TX with no next dispatch. I am TERRIFIED that this is indicative of the most we can expect from CRE. We are absolutely disgusted with this company and come Monday morning they will probably have lost another driver. He is a hard worker who just wants to make money and provide for his family - but will not tolerate abuse by his employer. I researched this company before he signed the lease and I warned him of all the negative things I'd found. He believed in his heart that he was being told the truth by his trainers at orientation and felt that if he worked hard and proved himself to be a good employee, that he would be taken care of by CRE. Unfortunately he was wrong. I thought it was strange, also that at his orientation the trainers told all the new employees that the truck drivers that were at the office were either in trouble, or they were lazy and didn't want to work - is this any way to speak of your employees? This company has gotten one over on too many people - I would advise anyone to stay away from CR England.

I leased a truck from cr england thinking i was going to make money, they gave me the first two weeks without a truck payment but at the same time i did not make any miles those two weeks so i ended up going in the hole any way the third settelment i made around 300 dollars after they took what i owed them then went in the hole again, the best check i made with them was around 700 dollars but the rest of the time i was in the hole with them, my driver manager acted like he didnt care, he would hardley ever answer my questions on the computer and could never get him on the phone.cr england does not care about the drivers, all they care about is the money they can make, they are a bad company to work for, i was with them for 6 weeks and i quit.wiht the trucks goverened at 60 mph you cant make the miles you need to and with the electronic logs every time your sitting it will burn up your hours then they take the load from you and give it to a team which is a trainer and a student.they rip you off out of money and dont care, good luck to all the drivers that stay with them, i am no fool i left after 6 weeks before they really screwed me over, if your smart you will not go to work for the rotten crooks.

I recently went through the Cr England orientation at Mira Loma California. I have 3 years experience and was sent there to be a company driver, and would have to team with someone. At the end of the orientation my partner and I were given instructions to take the bus to our home terminal in Salt Lake City Utah. I had to first go home and quit my current job in person to my manager who has been outstanding. My partner went straight to Utah. Upon arrival he was put in a bunk with 7 other drivers, and had to wait three more days until tuesday after memorial day. Right away they told him there were no company trucks available, and that the only way he could drive for CR England was to lease a truck. He did just that, at nearly 800 dollars a week between the payment and the insurance. The starting pay for lease drivers is 90 cents a mile and if you keep a 5.8 mile per gallon average on fuel, you only have to pay 1.25 per gallon. If you do the math here and include peanut butter and jelly 3 meals a day etc..., you need to pull an average of 400 miles a day just to make a couple of hundred dollars a week to send home to the family. He has been driving for a week now, and we were told the following tuesday would be pay day and a settlement statement would detail everything. It is wednesday right now and still not sign of anything. Also over the qualcomm system he has been trying to get his driver manager to send him to a repair shop to fix a belt tensioner that has been squeaking severely since day one, and if he doesn't get it fixed soon, it will turn into a 3 day job. So far he has only done short haul runs all week in California because he is a solo driver and has been running out of hours to go any farther. All the runs have been picking up a load, then having to exchange his load with another team sent to him that could go across the country. There are those that can make money, but you need to be a team and stay out on the road for a minimum of 3 weeks at a time, and that's if your DM gives you good runs. I really trusted the instructor at Mira Loma, and perhaps they just don't know what is going on above them. I never did get on that bus thank GOD. Good luck for those of you looking to make money to take care of your family. It can be done, but it will be a huge sacrifice and gamble to do so with Cr England.

Anyone who is thinking about or have a loved one thinking about taking a job with CR Enland, please stay away!

My husband was an employee of Werner for a year and Werner lost the local account he was on. He didn't want to do 48 states so he decided to start looking for other options. He called CR England and spoke with a requiter by the name of Claudia. She stated that she had a dedicated run available for New York State and he would be home every weekend and two or three eves during the week. I know sounds to good right! That is why we called her multiple times to verify and even had her email it in writing. It was very important that he was home every weekend because I work the weekends and he needs to be home for the kids.

My husband gave Werner their notice and headed off to Indiana for orientation (which by the way they don't pay you for!) He completed 4 days of orientation and on the last day they gave everyone their dispatch contact info and on the paper work it stated he was working for Sorrento? He called his dispatcher to confirm that he would be home every weekend and during the week and he laughed at him and said try once every two weeks! WHAT!

They had him! He called Claudia to discuss it with her and she now claims that HE MUST OF BEEN CONFUSED! WTF! We thought that we covered our butts even by getting it in email.

I called Claudia's boss who was a b***** and she stated that she doesn't know of any account like what Claudia was talking about but refused to help us!

He decided to stick it out, really we didn't have a choice at this point.

On his start date we drove two hours to pick up his truck, they gave us the keys then we drove to a secluded lot to find the truck that was a piece of junk! My husband opens the truck and someone else's junk was in it! It looked like they just walked off the job and never looked back. The shifter was duct taped together and the fan system and air conditioning didn't even work and did I mention it was dirtier that S****. We went back to the office and told the dispatcher that was on and he said sorry about that, you will have to go back home till we get it fixed? WHAT?

We spent our last dimes on gas to get him there!

What kind of company assigns a truck to a new employee and the don't even check the truck?

Also did I mention we ran into another trucker in the lot and he said to my husband "Is that your wife? You better give her a big hug because you will be lucky if you get home"

I will be damned if I let my husband work for a company that is so crocked, so now my husband is unemployed thanks to CR England! Thanks Claudia you liar! I don't know how you sleep at night taking advantage of families and lying to them to make a pay check. You should be ashamed of yourself!

Someone has to put a end to these companies taking advantage of people like this! It is so wrong!

i drove for cr england, everybody warned me not to work or sign a lease with this company. i did not listen. my son was with me, he was a big help. i drove until i was totally exausted. never made any money, my checks were always in the negative, i was solo they are cold blooded people and i am glad i am not working for them anymore. i still miss my 2007 white pete though you guys be warned really. i did not listen i hope you do. you will never take money home to your wife, never you will starve out there all by yourself. michelle [protected]@yahoo.com have a good day...

Cr England has not done one thing they have said they would. My husband was told he would have home time and he has not he got hurt on the job and they have not paid the medical bills. One of his checks was 5 dollars how the *** is someone suppose to live on that. We are broke I am being evicted and have to move and they still sniffled about him coming home to help me move. They are frauds and liars do not trust them! They flat out do not care about there drivers and their families..

I use to work for them then lefy(I should of stay from them) I was out of work from previous job so I call CR England back up and they said sure you can come back, take the three day orientaion and you'll be on the road .They lie when I got there they told me I have to go back to refresh class and pay a fee, I was cool with it I been out of a truck for 4 years so I said I'll brush up on my skill.after two weeks when the classes was over I finally go a trainer on our way back empty ou he got close to home and quit(O/O) complaint out cutting back on mileage paid so I call dispatch and they told me even I got my CDL's and a former driver coming back to the company I could not move the truck I have to wait they send someone out there from the compamy to drive it so I ask them when is the person coming and they told me you have to wait and see so I ask them will they paid for a Hotelt for me and never gotton an answer back, so that told me right there, I can my wife she gotton me a bus ticket and I was gone then 3 three weeks later they call me and ask me when I wasn't in the truck the driver is looking for me I told the they can kiss my a$$.

I made an big Mistake going to CR England...I was hired by this Company back in June 2008. I ace there road test and skills test in Indiana at orientation. The Hotel house us in was ###. 3 Days went pass and i got call that they have an trainer for me, I did request an Non-Smoker, but being an nice guy that I said "ok". well the Trainer decline cuz I was an Non-Smoker. 10 mins later she call back and said he will take me. The Trainer name is Mark Bishop, and he is the worse Trainer I ever seen. 8 days into the Training, we just got done with our 36 hours reset and I was sleeping. When i woke up, I saw Mark Bishop Driving and with my logs written into. I call my TC and told what happen and she call him and i was being drop off in Dallas. I fail cuz i told on him.

Now is Dallas Monday june 23, 2008, I walk into the school in dallas. The secretary is Dallas, took my paperwork, inclusing my logs copy. I told her what as happen, She call my TC and I Talk her again and I was told I was not be testout today. So I wait for the van so I could go back to the ### hotel in Dallas. while i waiting, gay guy works in the dallas School Name Aaron made an pass at me. I told him "NO'. The Next day I walk into the School to turn in my statement about the Sexaul Hassement (which never made it to Utah) and getting ready to take the cumputer vis. of the Test and i was told Not too. When finally they were ready to gave me mine road test, I was ready to go. The guy that did the road test with me, They call him "Cowboys". He took on the Norrow Industal road and wanted me to an right turn on another norrow Industal Road, The an park on the other side of the road and I didn't have enough room to make the turn and I told him. He told me "Do the turn or you fail" so I turn and tendems in the duch...

Since i been home fight this termination that James Rhodes and Carrie Johansen Refuse to Listen and change my Termination. you see that want us to follow the Sexaul hassement policy which they don't follow the Policy at all. CR England is the worse Trucking i ever been with. With there magt. it about the Money. I don't think James Rhodes and Carrie Johansen ever and I mean Ever been in an truck and i didn't think they have an CDL class A lic.

All i ask was job back and status change to Quit, But James Rhodes only care about himself, instead making things right. I'm going to fight this as it takes...

I gave the recruiter all of my information, I have an accident and two tickets on my driving record. They knew this up front. I was asked for a copy of the accident and I sent it to them. They sent me a bus ticket to California and from the start they seemed to be unprofessional. They didn't start the disqualification process until they got you to fill out all of the paper work and that's where the cutting starts. Some people were let go for numbers of reasons, that should have been looked at before they had them travel half way across the US. I went through the whole school process because I hadn't driven a tractor trailer in ten years. The day that I was suppose to start getting paid they tell me I need to call my recruiter who tells me they need a copy of the tickets because they don't say how fast I was going on my driving record. Mind you I'm from Texas and I'm in California so They get me another bus ticket to come get the copies. I send them in and then they say that the tickets are fine but the accident disqualifies me because I was at fault. Here's where it gets funny, The accident falls off my record in December and I can come back but I'll have to pay for the course out of my pocket and the loan for the school that I attended for the past three weeks would be deducted at that time because I would then be an England employee. Now They are the cheapest when it comes to School and that's largely due to Government Funding. They get Funds from the Government and have everyone sign the paperwork, then they start to disqualify you and they won't give you back the paperwork that has your name, ssn, and other information on it so that they can turn it in for a payday from the Government for Creating Jobs. That why if you complete the program they want the money up front if you are desperate enough to want to come back and wouldn't say desperate enough but you think you are getting such a great deal because they are only charging you about 1500.00 to got through the truck driving school at that point when you would have to pay more with other companies, but they have already received a big payday from the Government.

I was an I/C for C.r. England from March of 07 until Oct of 07. I leased right aftr training. I only had two late loads my entire time with them and that was right after signing my lease. Understandable new to driving alone...right. Well in Sep of 04 I requested home time from my DM to be there when my son was born. He said I had to go to the terminal in salt lake first to face the professional development board and I would probably be terminated for late loads. Well I said no I was going home. My lease was a walk away lease. I called them and told them where they could pick up their truck. Even spoke to the repo driver. Next thing I get is a bill for the remainder of my lease term. Which is funny because before I leased that truck it was abandoned and the previous driver was issued a bill for the full lease term which he paid so england owned the tractor. Well they can kiss my [protected]@$!

C.R. England is THE biggest RIPOFF out there. They are thives and will take everything that you have and then some. They start by telling all these things how they will make your business succesful and all they really are worried about is getting your money. They want you to train their employees so if there is any damage you have to pay to get it fixed. They have just turned into a puppy mill. They want you to go to their school just to get your money and then they will put you in the hole so bad that you cant even see daylight if you let them. Just ask the over 600 drivers who turned their trucks in. England has become the lowest of the low. Out on the road they are known as the Morman Mob and it is the truth. They are nothing but CUT THROATS.

My husband recently graduated from CR England's trucking school (a total duration of of 3 months). During school, they refused to talk about pay, stating "you aren't an employee yet, so don't waste your time with questions like that". The first odd thing we came across was a cash reward for anybody "turning in" anybody talking badly about the company (trainers and other drivers affiliated with the company). It brought to mind, the nazi's, who would tell people to turn in anyone going against them. My husband had a severe abscess in his jaw (which can be deadly) and called corporate to get medical treatment with his supposed "benefits". His calls were never returned, left to be OTR having to take large doses of ibuprofen from the severe pain. Once my husband graduated the OTR phase of the training, they, all of a sudden, had a 2 month wait list to be a company employee, were eliminating employee drivers altogether in December and were cutting pay by 2 cents a mile (it really adds up when you are driving many thousands a week). They claimed that he could lease a truck through them for a 6 month "trial period". They end up making the big bucks by ripping off their, already struggling independent contractors by charging full price for the truck during a 3 year lease, then giving you the chance to buy it (for full price) afterwards. They also make you purchase your insurance through them which is just one more way of getting your money into their pocket. I begged my husband not to sign, but he was already in that boat well before. He ended up driving second seat with his phase 2 trainer, who decided not to train anymore to give my husband second seat (even though he would get a pay cut from England). In the past two weeks, they have received less than half of their miles driven while trainer and student. My husband found out that England had bumped his already slave wages from 14 cents a mile to 13 cents a mile stating that it is subject to change without notice(for a 70 hour work week it evened out to be about $5 an hour)and they decided that his partner was going to pay 100% of his paycheck (instead of a portion of it). His partner, who leases a truck from them, came out with a grand total of $250, not having money to pay his bills or get Christmas presents.

YOU WILL REGRET SEEKING WORK WITH THIS COMPANY. Don't let their sly marketing and "be your own boss" inspiratonal posters and smoke and mirrors of a religious family business charm you. They take advantage of people down on their luck and take them for everything they can.