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New Age Frauds and Plastic Shamans (NAFPS) review: libel, slander, identity theft, hate speech, cyber-bullying 11

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The newagefraud.Org website is used primarily, but not exclusively, to slander members of native american communities. The site is owned by alton carl 'al' carroll born 1965 tx, presently employed by northern virginia community college. It is currently hosted by flokinet of iceland in an attempt to avoid further charges of libel/slander. The site is administered by al carroll and three others; kathyrn price (Aka kathryn m shea, kathryn nicdhana, kathyn theatana, yells at pretendians) born 1962/63 of ma. Sky davis (Aka christine sonya davis, chrstine weed, omgsrsly?) born 1966 of ma. Deborah moran (Aka debbie redbear, debbieredbear) of suquamish wa

Update by Daniel G Grant
Jan 12, 2016 10:57 pm EST

Northern Virginia Community College has a policy against harassment: Harassment is any unwelcome verbal, written, or physical conduct that either denigrates or shows hostility or aversion towards a person on the basis of race, color, national origin, age, religion, disability, marital status, or pregnancy that (1) has the purpose or effect of creating an intimidating, hostile, or offensive working environment; (2) has the purpose or effect of unreasonably interfering with an employee's work performance; or (3) affects an employee's employment opportunities or compensation.

Unwelcome conduct that denigrates and shows aversion towards people based on race, color and religion... Alton Carroll in a nutshell

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nafps critics
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Mar 30, 2016 2:43 pm EDT

Miguel Sague - My relatives recently there were a number of quotes made here in this group concerning opinions about me personally posted in a blog site called Newage Frauds and Plastic Shamans. This site claims that it provides an Indigenous forum for the discussion of organizations and individuals who are currently misappropriating Native American tradition for self-enrichment. The problem is that those who participate in this forum indiscriminately and in some cases illegally attack legitimate Indigenous spiritual leaders based on a very narrow set of criteria that has actually gotten them in trouble and exposed them to the world as a fake group. They search around the internet using a set of “keywords”. If they see anybody using any of these target words they attack. They particularly target anyone they feel is not Indian enough.

On the whole these people either don’t believe that there are really any Tainos living in the diaspora or they claim that there are NO Tainos at all. Check out this quote from the moderator of the website as they comment on the Caney Circle whom they began to target in 2005 when some of them posted some particularly disgusting lies about me personally…claiming to know that I had a girlfriend on the side and making allegations that frankly I could have taken them to court for. In fact they have been taken to court by others that they have attacked and had to shut down their operation for a while.
The moderator said this:
“I'm not sure what to make of this group myself. This looks more like Curanderismo or Santeria than any Native beliefs. The carvings and names they use seem more African to me than NDN. (in his ignorance he was talking about pictures that I have on my Caney site of Taino cemies and words such as Jan Jan Katu and Seneko kakona. He feels that cemies look African and those words are also African)
Groups calling themselves Tainos generally tend to be Dominicans and Puerto Ricans trying to reconnect with any NDN roots they have. There might be small NDN communities on those islands, but most of the ones in the US calling themselves Tainos aren't from those communities”
They will look for any way to attack you. Because they don’t like ANY of us and to them we are all in the same boat. We are just a bunch of Puerto Ricans and Dominicans pretending to be NDNs.

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National Geographic
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Oct 15, 2019 10:10 am EDT

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/history/2019/10/meet-survivors-taino-tribe-paper-genocide/

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Bill AJ Ross
US
Apr 13, 2016 9:45 pm EDT

The newagefraud.org site has been shutdown. It was last archived on March 27 2016. All Google Search results for the site have been removed.

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nafps critics
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Apr 15, 2016 8:32 am EDT

They left this message on their FB site

The site is temporarily down due to an equipment issue at the server. We're all still here and will be back online at the main site as soon as a part is replaced.

However, the server is still online

If they were kicked off this would be the 18th server to have given them the boot.

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nafps critics
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Apr 22, 2016 6:52 pm EDT

Now they write

Rumours of our demise are false. The server is functional, it was the particular machine we were on that's taking a while to reload.

the particular machine they were on? what kind of machine were they on? first it is an equipment issue at the server and now it is a problem with their own machine? can they get their own story straight or are they busy looking for a new server? Turkey, Switzerland, Panama, Iceland, where next? The Congo?

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Eye Tuwe Slo Waya
pine ridge south dakota, US
Jun 21, 2016 9:45 am EDT

Ingeborg Native American Association of Germany making fake accounts and profiles on that website

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Native Voice
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Jul 10, 2016 9:59 pm EDT

The NAFPS site was down from March and May. An increasing number of First Nations and Native American individuals have been speaking out about the lies and hate that have taken hold at NAFPS.

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Gabriel Baker
US
May 14, 2018 4:01 pm EDT

It is important to get this site shut down they do a lot of damage to a lot of innocent people. I know people attacked by that forum for saying that plant medicine can "cure" AIDS and HIV... they said that was fraudulent to claim that plants can help to alleviate suffering in terminal illness cases and even lead to "cure" (I use the word cure in quotation marks because the subject of a cure for AIDS is full of contradictions. AIDS itself is not a disease, its a syndrome and as such its a condition that can be alleviated and the immune system can be helped and strengthened so as the illness don't get in...) but anyway the fact is that I have seen people get back their lives having had or being labelled as HIV Positive... NAFPS never investigate they only attack... and they just make the whole thing into a witch hunt, allowing slander to perpetrated against innocent people. In that case the people that had helped people with terminal illnesses using plants study shamanism seriously and native indigenous medicine. I know them. NAFPS then went on the warpath and published serious allegations about those shamanic students, accused them of being frauds and all was based on totally unproven allegations made by annonymous people. If anyone defends they get banned, accused of stalking and much more. We need to defend and to denounce this so that more and more people realise that this site is not valid. It needs to be taken down. Any more info on where they are based apprecaited. Best wishes, Gabriel Baker

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fredyygg
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May 25, 2018 4:47 pm EDT

for you to understand what you are dealing with, this was all translated from German. Psiram, Esowatch, Nafps are the same people.

Esowatch is to be regarded with justified suspicion. It acts out of anonymity, contains no imprint, are self-proclaimed guardians where obvious common sense has been lost.
The research quality is completely inadequate and at the same time it tries to create the impression of an equal discussion but contributions are censored or changed and then, without the actual author still being able to exercise any right of access, the contributions are published under his name.

Information disseminated should be treated with extreme caution. As it also became known, some operators are convicted of defamation and try to evade jurisdiction by registering the domain in Hong Kong (and now Iceland), due to their still widespread repeated slander. The web site has no imprint and therefore the access is virtually impossible. - HolgerM3

Claus Fritzsche stated that the authors spread dubious and rather crazy conspiracy theories. He puts it this way: "The authors of the platform browse Google for fragments of information that fit into their enemy image ... and add decorative details that are fictitious in many cases." Claus Fritzsche summarizes: "As long as the authors of the platform ... also use excessive exaggeration, manipulate, violate ethical rules and break the law ...then it is criminal and ethically unacceptable. The anonymity allows the operator to attack all sorts of people in a malicious sniper slanderous manner. The related lawsuits have also resulted in the domain being blocked.

Roland Wilhelm Ziegler from Weiskirchen is said to have been the operator of EsoWatch/Psiram and is no doubt the administrator Krazy Kraut on NAFPS where Al Carroll is the listed owner. He was alleged to be a paid pharmaceutical lobbyist. The Kopp-Verlag reported on their way of working:

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It is in fact, an Internet pillory, which vilified websites, people and worldviews under the protection of anonymity. This happens in a way, that those affected can't defend against it.
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The creators now attack critical websites and denounce people who are off the mainstream .
The approach of the denunciation portal is always similar: With reference to dubious sources, victims are either accused of right-wing radicalism or right-wing populism..., individual facts are picked out, twisted, and put into a contemptible context.
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A dangerous criminal organization that anonymously defames, manipulates, and conducts bad research. In general, everything that is alternative medicine is ridiculed.
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"The system consists of various blogs, on which the victims are attacked. Then follows the extermination blow with reference to their own, dubious blogs, which are quoted as a source. In addition, they have their fingers on Wikipedia .
You can not recommend them in good conscience. All statements must be viewed very carefully and searched for independently.

The following was admitted in an interview:
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Why do you slander and mob your innocents?
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We only denounce, and very cleverly. Many of our "victims" are branded in different grades as right-wing. This weapon always helps. When we make statements, they are cited and referenced - even though they are often the pages of Psiram-makers but it looks good and nobody notices yet.

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fredyygg
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May 26, 2018 9:00 am EDT

Everything that Mr. Ziegler and his colleagues do not believe or approve of is discredited, lumped together, malignantly worded, half-truths, flat lies and deliberate, unproven links, some brown sauce over them, stirred vigorously, and poured into a wiki content system . » - Niki Vogt

According to the Kopp-Verlag, not only is alternative natural medicine attacked but ... "new energy technologies, etc. are ridiculed".

So congratulations to Al and NAFPS for not only being complicit with a paid pharmaceutical lobbyist and those who back him but being complicit with those who oppose clean technology and who promote the interests of the oil companies. We who support Standing Rock, who oppose Kinder Morgan and Keystone etc. denounce these fraud sites.

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NAFPS and PSIRAM
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May 20, 2018 4:40 pm EDT

NAFPS and PSIRAM operate under the same umbrella. They are based in Europe, specifically Germany. They were formerly ESOWATCH, an illegal, highly slanderous site with questionable backing. All authors use anonymous nick names.

http://website.informer.com/185.100.84.150

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ByrfQwMdtN0 - translates to - Who is behind Esowatch.com (now psiram.com) [Cybercrime]

Al Carroll is the registered owner of NAFPS.

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