Online hosting network (ohn) review: Scam? 225

Hello to all...I am in Australia and have been through all of these answers on here and agree with all of them...Call me stupid but I checked on line and as well as with ASIC before hand and couldnt find anything to say they are a scam so I committed to the whole deal ($7, 000) and have built the site and followed all of their suggestions and had 3 training lessons...it has been a month since I signed up and I have rung them twice already to cancel and been talked out of it again. It is olnly the last 2 days I have found this site and today I called the commonwealth bank and reported this as a scam, the bank firstly said it would investigate but it would take 45 day or so as it is an overseas thing, they would investigate them by giving them 30 days to prove they have given me what I have paid for. In the time it took for her to go away, putting me on hold, to cancel my card, she came back and said the investigation was already approved and the money would be credited to my account by 3 days end. That includes any payments made to" myadminspace "as well as international fees. I asked why it was approved so quickly without investigation and she said it could be that they are already listed as a scam. I did not put in any calls to OHN at all asking for my money back. So I am writing this in the hope that it will help anyone else in AU...DO NOT DEAL WITH THEM..I will further go on to report them to ASIC and any other overseas authority that deals with this type of fraudulent business practice and there are many. It shouldn't be long before they are OUT of business.

sorry I clicked the message twice there

I was called by them just a couple of hours ago...I'd almost been persuaded to at least do the initial sign up...luckily I googled them while on the phone to their guy (called himself Karl), and found this! So I told him I was running late and he said he'd ring back tomorrow...I said fine...except I just won't answer their calls! Thank god I saw this in time! Bullet dodged.

boy how stupid am i, i outlayed $8, 500 have not seen a penny in almost 12months approached them i was told i would be entileted to $450

wendy australia

Hey guys..just name the directors individually and gooooooooooo for them! Look at my previous postings for details... good luck and lets get rid of theses leaches!
Mary Oz

OK so let me get this straight wini44
You have came to this site after you signed up?
If so then read all the posts because in the post you will find the ways to get out of eny contract or what you have signed up to with OHN
I have posted on here a few times and have typed in phone numbers.
My first comment here i was new to everything, i was lucky to not have spent eny money to have been riped off like others have.
I hate scams and i now have a website that is full of different scams out there.

www.freethenewbie.com
Review sites can also be a scam but not this site, although i will add that on the google page where you will find the link to this site, it will say there are no Adsense ads and no Affiliate ads but if you go to the site you will see lots of ads.

Hey everyone. I've still not received anything back from OHN... got a phone call yesterday from a guy called Chris who is a 'trainer'. He actually listened to me when I told him what had happened and that I had cancelled the whole thing with 'Hugo Atayde' on 27th October. He seemed to be the only genuine person I have spoken to. I told him that there was no way I would be dealing with OHN and was expecting my money back as promised by HUGO. I have to date, cancelled my cards which were used to pay for the SCAM, sent dispute forms back to the banks for them to deal with OHN. I also got on to the Better Business Bureau in Arizona and have received a reply that they are dealing with it and they have sent a copy of what they sent to OHN and OHN's reply. Wait for it... a person at OHN named JAMES HOWARD sent the Bureau a reply in which they LIED. JAMES HOWARD wrote that they had been intouch with me and QUOTE " I am happy to report that we were able to resolve this matter to her stated satisfaction" UNQUOTE What a load of charlatons! My website and Myadminspace were still on the web last night. Not checked anything else as yet but I'll be getting back to the business bureau today. send all your complaints to: www.arizonabbb.org my contact there is ASHLEY BROSSMAN... we WILL get our money back and get rid of this company. Post all your info on what's happened to you on Facebook, Twitter and any other means where we can expose them...Take care all
Mary Oz

The best way to get back at them is to post a complaint ...look up Arizona State Better Business Bureau..that's where the head office is follow their complaints instructions. They will ask you to type in the name of the company you are referring to...there's a form they have you fill out it takes a few minutes... so far they have 12 complaints but if everyone does it then the BBB will have to take action under law . You can also post a complaint at the FTC level Federal Trade Commission, that's my next step. Plus I'm seriously considering posting a video on you tube... Power to the people ! Lets bring these scamers down.
And we can always start a class action suit against them !

This BUSINESS is the a big SCAM! They rang me offering me to own my own website and that I will be promoting business for BIG companies like SONY and AMAZON and all I had to do was update my website at least once a week and I will get 10% OF EACH SALE made through my website and $300 through each referral made thru my website to their company. As I am single mum of 3 and have a 5 yr old daughter severe spina bifida I have no option but to stay home and look after my children so I fell for this scam. THEY fed me talk like popple can't open a business without money and the elite program $377 is such a little investment to start one and SOny & Amazon are known companies and that I am back up with 60 day money back guarantee if unhappy...etc... So I paid the $377 and thought if it doesn't not work out I can GET my money back. 5 days later they call me saying my website will not make any money if I don't adverstise and they have a advertising method which ranges from $2500 or $4955, I told them I want my money back and that I don't to pay any more money so he offered me the first package of $2495 for $1995 before I paid I asked him what if I am not happy with the service is there a guarantee? The guy called George Valenzia said sure mam everything here is backed up with money guarantee if your not happy but you just give it a try and 100% you will like and start making money fast and he showed a site called babiesandbooks.net and how successful it is so I believed him and paid. When I saw their training methods in writing the back office and what I actually had to do was so completely different to what he said, I immediately asked for a refund, I never used a training session or their/my so called website! Jennifer the trainer referred me to GARY MINOR a so called QUALITY MANAGER assuring me they will help me with the cancellation.
I told Gary Minor that I cannot do this and it is completely different to what was described by GEORGE Valenzio and that I want my money back immediately, he said we can help you by pausing your business for now and you can get back to it when you can . I sent him an email telling I do not want to get back to it and that this a big scam there is no way to make money like that. After numerous emails he offered to refund me $377 out of $2377 ! I was furious with him and sent many emails after that calling the business a big scam and that I will report them. SHAME ON AMAZON, SONY, and any other partner; I am now sending an email to sony that I am boycotting their products! http://esupport.sony.com/CA/perl/support-contacts.pl? and amazon. Because of their partnership with OHN. I just cannot believe there is such heartless people like that out there ! I hope they all get prosecuted and fined and shutdown but most of all we get our money back!

PLease people send your complaints to www.arizonabbb.org like Mary Oz & other victims suggested and maybe they will help us when they see the complaints and I also reported them to www. ic3.org and pay pal and commonwealth bank and ANZ.

I've just had a negative response to my complaint by the " Better Business Bureau" in downtown Pheonix...I bet these toothless wonders are 'friends of the Leeches at OHN... they say they have investigated and there is nothing to be done. They will keep my complaint for 3 years and...get this... if similar complaints are forthcoming ...they will do something?... I've attached their letter... hope you can read it. SEND ALL YOUR COMPLAINTS TO : WWW.ARIZONABBB.ORG.
LET'S MAKE SURE THEY KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SCAMMED, and lets make them work to get 'Better Business Practises "in ARIZONA.
Mary Oz

LETS MAKE A COMPLAINT ON 'BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU' because obviously they did not investigate properly! I sent my complaint earlier this morning!. HOW ridiculous ! That they let these filthy so called human beans scam good hearted people! I am sick of this!

What's the need to post this on this web site... go to Facebook or Twitter...certainly won't be buying anything over the American internet sites...ever! Mary Oz

I am with you MARY! Never again. NO matter WHAT!

Hi there, I am a single mother to three from Australia and working hard to get back at these scammers online hosting network, please send your complaint to
WWW.ARIZONABBB.ORG. the more complaints about ONLINE HOSTING NETWORK in PHOENIX the more chance we get our money back. PLEASE it only takes a few minutes . As Arizona BBB will not do anything if they do not get more complaints.

thanks

Total scam... I'm in Canada... when they called... I looked up Online Hosting Network and started reading all your posts... to the guy on the phone lol I said... don't tell me... if I don't start selling... I can pay more money for help... lol He got frustrated and let me go... as he discouraged me from looking up anything else but the website he was giving me over and over... Nice try losers.

Signed up then read all of this and realised I didn't want it anyway! I could have done this myself and have done with no results. Why was I crazy enough to pay someone? Anyway, credit card is cancelled (probably not necessary but better to be safe) and told the bank. They reckon it should be approved within 3 days and have my money back. Ohn continue to call me and ask how I cancelled and why blah blah blah. I simply told them its a scam and what we in Oz call fraud and left it at that. I thought the more I say the more they may be able to use against me. Guess what? They called back but I was interested in anwering. Now I gotta be careful with every private number that calls me.

I too signed up. Money taken out of my credit card on the 10th of Nov 2010 for $188.79. My first phone call was from John Palka, he talked me into upgrading from the basic US$149 to the standard US$188. Tells me this will give me the website, domain name, banner for amazon and unbeatable sales. If someone signs up from my referal I will get up to $200 per person. Unlimited use of the customer service. Within the week I had about 12 missed calls from George Ybanez, who finally contacted me on sunday morning 20th Nov 2010. After talking his speel for over 1/2 an hour and trying to get me to hand over for the Ulimate Package US$4995, or then the Delux Package for US$3495 and lastly the Standard Package for US$2000, then he slipped up and in conversation he said the standard was only US$2500. (Wow, it went up US$500 in a matter of seconds!) I told him I did not have this sort of money, he told me to use my credit card, I told him again I did not have this sort of money, he advised me to apply for another credit card! I told him I would not be given any more credit from any credit card compnay. He finally got it that I was not going to pay any more money. He then told me he would help me out by getting the advertising people to give me a call and they would help promote my website for free. He asked when the best time for them to call was, I told them today (sunday) he said they will call me right back. I got that call this morning. Today is Wednesday 26th Nov 2010. The lady that called, Regina, told me she was sending me an email to help me out. Which she did. It gives me links to 4 sites to help with advertising to "suit anybodies budget" and also 6 websites so I can get some idea of how my website should look. One of those wedsites is a scam site too! I now want a refund. Wish me luck people!

Hi Guys... Read the attached correspondence from the Arizona Better Business Bureau in regard to my complaint about OHN. Previously they had sent a 'stock' reply in which they said they could do no more. I promptly sent a 'dissatisfied with result ' complaint back to them and told them about all of the complaints on Complaints Board. They, OHN are telling the BBB that you guys are 'their competitors... LOL ! PLEASE... bombard the arizona bbb with your genuine complaints... let's get them to see how many people have been taken by OHN and that they are still scamming for more victims ! MARY OZ

Hi, I am new here. I just found this site and like most of us here, I also falled into OHN on 19/11/2010. Stupid me trust this kind of people eventhough I have no money to invest in, I still joined them. After looked at all the comments here, I decided that I will go to my bank trying to get my money back (AU$467.67 for my set-up fee and training centre). My husband surely not happy if I tell him that I am falled into scam...Wish me luck to get back my money, guys. By the way I am in WA.

I got scammed over AU$3000 in August by these lowlifes and contacted bbb arizona who sent them a letter and this morning Gary Minor said ok we'll refund you 2/3 of it.I'm not holding my breath but it's a step in the right direction.I strongly recommend contacting bbb and don't be brainwashed again into continuing on. I'll keep you posted on refund-15 working days apparently.

Just reading other posts from miss gullible - isn't it amazing that the Commonwealth Bank has them as being scammers why are thy still trading and stealing our money.

What a load of crap!...why is complaints boardallowing this type of advertising? Don't even bother to click the link...shoots at fashion? Is this serious and objective to the scam by OHN? Mary Oz

So glad my internet was down when OHN called. They are expecting me to send them $188 via paypal, they will have a very long wait! Thank you for all your warnings...you have probably saved me a fortune and my sanity. Can't wait for Debbie to call at approx 9.30, I will tell her and OHN where to go!
Jacki UK (6th Dec 2010)

Sorry... Erstgrehyrt... don't see the relevance of your advertising here on Complaintsboard!

I had someone ring me again from America about all this...even after i hung up months ago on them without getting involved at all. I think they are getting pretty desperate to be re trying people over and over again. If they ring again im going to really give them an earful of earthy aussie language...thats for sure. judych

Good on you Judy... I'm waiting to hear from my bank... aparantley the OHN Scammers have refunded some money but I don't know how much at this point as I don't use internet banking...on that card anyway...I think we were lucky not to get sucked in tooooooooo late...The experience has stopped me looking for work at home...on the computer or in USA Based Companies...if you can call them companies...Hope they go down...big time!

...and so do i hope they go down. It certainly does make you very distrustful of anything at all thats out there, and by being burnt we could be missing out on something thats quite genuine. I wouldnt touch anything like this with a barge pole now...and before all this happened i had an open mind to it all. How many people are just going to give this whole avenue a miss because there are people out there who rort the system and ready to rob us?... it really stinks.
I hope that you get all your money back. I dont do internet banking either...i do everything else within reason but not internet banking. Im not that trusting there either. judych

Hi all, just a bit of info for all of the victims of ohn.
Last week I was having my daily look at ebay and when I was finished I decided to shut my computer down and when I closed internet explorer I found a small survey about working from home and after I answered 3 questions I was rewarded with the GIVE US YOUR DETAILS AND WE WILL RING YOU questionaire that the last time I filled it in it cost me over $2000(the ohn contact form)and so I immediately sent an email to ebay and told them that the ohn scammers were loitering around ebay.I got an immediate response from ebay and the offending advert was gone the next morning.Did anyone else see it?
Amazing how much effect the word SCAMMERS has on a reputable online business.
And just a statement to the person or persons from ohn that read this, you people are more stupid than us, your victims, if you think that all of the people that have posted on this site don't know what your contact form looks like.
Lastly, I made a copy of the so-called survey and contact form and it is in the possession of the Australian Federal Police.

WOW John...go get em... to long they've been able to get away... let's get them and get them BIG >>> Cheers Mate...Mary OZ

HI There. I just got a call from them, her nam is Tresha, I listened to the recording and at th same time googled them and get all of this from all of you. NO thank, s don't want part of this. They have been calling many times a day since weeks.
Ittlooks like the same things. On line Hosting they call themselves
tol free # she gave me [protected] is this the same.?
yep they asked if I had a credit card and companies who are part of this is Yahoo and Amazon. com

People who warn against scamers if you have to pay them $$ for a job it is a scam. But if you pay money to start your own business then yes you do have to pay $$ and I think the gal who called me gets paid commission if I signed up but I am not doing that.
Am I talking about the same bunch as all of you are? Can someone reply to me about this. Thanks
Carolyn

yes, I am in Canada, Now I have read from all of you, It is the same cheating bunch. I am so happy I didn't give them a penny, I don;t have $1000's to give them.

Thanks People and I hope you all get your money back

God Speed that you do
Carolyn

Well Done Carolyn... As long as we spread the word... these scammers will go down big time. Thank goodness for this website. Have a Great Feastive Season and look after yourselves! No Telesales to be answered... just make them pay by saying you are not the person they need and put the phone down saying you will get the person. They are paying for the call so leave it off the hook till they go away...They'll only call a few times and when they get the same treatment... they'll give up! Happy NEW YEAR ALL
Mary OZ

Hi all, I also have had enough of the ohn phone calls that come from a number that apparently doesn't exist because my mobile(cell)phone tells me so and so as ohn apparently reads these statements on complaints board, my phone wouldn't go wild the day after I wrote each one if they didn't read them, then how about this ohn, look in my account and whatever it says I have paid you, about $1600, and write a cheque and send it to my postal address that you still have and then I can promise you that you won't hear from me again.
I know that I have said before this that I have paid ohn a total of $2400 but if you can work out who the last super salesman was that I spoke to then you can take the other $800 from him as your so-called set up fee.
Compliments of the season to all and here's hoping I get an xmas present from ohn, but I won't hold my breath.

Hi all, I am so happy to have found this site. Recently I was also a target of these unscrupulous people and paid them the basic charge to set up my website etc. Within hours I began to feel something was wrong and googled to find any information on them and found this site. Next was a series of phonecalls and messages through Paypal asking them to stop the process and give me a refund. Everything I read on this site follows the script. I then opened a dispute through Paypal and a fraud investigation through my bank. I just want to share that within 11 days my bank has reversed the money and I have recovered it. The OHN guys still try and ring me! I am glad to have gone through my bank and Paypal so that these bad people are exposed to investigation by people in authority. I hope this can give hope to some folks who have been badly burnt by this scam. I hope I am never so gullible again. They certainly are persistent and deceptive. Daph

HELLO EVERYONE WHO HAS BEEN SCAMMED BY OHN. TODAY I GOT MY MONEY BACK! IF YOU KEEP ON AT THEM...DON'T LET THEM TALK YOU INTO ANY REDUCTION IN THE AMOUNT THEY REFUND.. THEY HAVE TO REFUND IT ALL. KEEP YOUR BANK INFORMED AND GET THEM TO CHASE THEM TOO. IT WORKS'S !
GOOD LUCK AND MERRY CHRISTMAS... LET'S ALL HAVE A BRIGHT NEW YEAR... EXCEPT THOSE BLOOD SUCKERS AT OHN... Mary OZ

Have got a refund from Ohn for $1800us out of $2594us-with the help of better business bureau. Don't sit back and accept that youv'e lost money -email bbb and get it back!

I am out 99.00 and 395.00. I am trying to get them to phone me back but no reply. They asked me to okay a digital signature of my name which I did not do. If I don't sign it Visa said I am still lible for the 395.00. Visa told me to keep trying to cancel. Merry Christmas to me.

I am sorry to say that I fell prey to these [censor] and I am trying to get my money back. I contacted the BBB in Arizona, we'll see what happens. Too bad I didn't know about this site a lot sooner... I wouldn't have been taken in. I am hoping the BBB will be helpful and I hope nobody falls for their tactics anymore.

If enough people complain to the BBB, OHN will be wiped out... You will get your money back...if you persist. I did Good luck and Merry Christmas to all of us from Mary OZ

Thank you MaryOz, Merry Christmas to you too, and a Happy New Year! Just want to give you an update. A Mr. Gary Minor called this morning offering a settlement of $6, 000.00. I told him I would think about it and of course I informed BBB of this event. Also told BBB I would not settle for any more or any less than what I put into it. Hopefully they will realize I am not trying to run a scam of my own. I just want what belongs to me, that's all. So hopefully things will settle soon. I have not heard from BBB yet, but I realize it is Christmas time. How long did you have to wait for yours?
Thank you for your help, reading all your entries has helped me so far!
Again Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year