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It's like the DMV but worse. My company and I am in the process of trying to contact someone above the customer service and supervisor reps. If anyone is able to help with such contact I'd be most appreciative.

That's their game - give them an address or a phone number and they will bombard you with junkmail/cold calls. They have to do this because they are losing members in a steady trickle because Scientology is an abusive cult. Just Google "Wise Beard Man" or "Xenu.net" and the facts are all laid out.

So interesting to see so many comments about peoples experiences in the basic and yet not surprised at all. Wherever we go, there we are. The question always remains, is the way you are showing up contributing to you and those around you? HMMMM?

Whoever made this comment above is a complete narrow minded idiot lol. I just did the basic seminar and I remember the staff people told us that if we didn't like what we heard on the first hour, we can leave and we will get our full money back. Seriously lol nobody was brainwashing or forcing people to come and sit there and listen to wisdom. As a PSI grad, I can tell you now that I don't care about your life. That is your life, be a hater or spread negativity out there and guess what? Who's the loser? You. You know why? Because you're raging over some seminar that brainwashed you or something..Listen, dude, you have a choice do not blame the people who enjoyed it, blame yourself for being the odd one out lol. It's just so funny to see people like you in the seminar..I think I saw 2-3 people just glued on their chair being invisible not sharing, not participating lol. Those ppol were doubting ALL the TIME what the heck they're doing there. Lol I feel that I'm wasting my time writing this comment cuz I don't know if you'll be able to read it. But anyway, if those people chose to be open-minded, they'll get more and enjoy more the course. Anyhow, I hope I'll never be unfortunate enough to meet negative people like you, just not worth it. Anyway I hope u have a good life someday!

I just took the PSI basic last weekend looking for self improvement. Yes, people should learn and grow. Yes, change is hard and you need to come out of your comfort zone. Yes, life isn't want you expected and you've either disappointed yourself or others. Yes, you want to make a difference and awaken the spirit within you. However...don't be caught like Hansel and Gretel...so hungry that they couldn't resist. What's missing in your life?

What doesn't look right, smell right, sound right...(however that saying goes) probably isn't right.

1. What kind of legitimate educational course runs till midnight on Thur and Fri? Then have you come back full day Sat and Sun?

2. What kind of course asks you for $500 -$700 but won't tell you what it's all about. You're not going to the movies. You won't find good surprises here, although you'll be lured into thinking so. Instead, you'll come back with problems you never knew you had. I don't call that a surprise...and it's not the right kind of personal insight either.

3. If there are negative blogs all over the net regarding this seminar doesn't it ring alarm bells? Keep surfing, get enough info to make an informed decision. I spent over 8hrs finding loads of info, unfortunately only after I went to the basic.

If you still decide you'd like to go. What price are you willing to pay? Not financially but cognitively. Would you open your mind to someone who isn't even a liscenced practioner? I was there...I don't care if it's hypnotism, brainwashing whatever. It's guided imagery where they take you back in time and conjure some of your deepest feelings as a kid. I think the practice is beneficial but not done in a group setting by some facilitator!

Even if you go in there thinking you're smart with no issues and you're all happy...well be careful. My happy go lucky friends who were satisfied with life came out wanting more. The countless exercises will get you. The meditation, the voice of the narrator, the dim lights, the imagery will get you.

I'm usually the type of person who reads the stuff online but I won't contribute. However this time, I think it's really important. For all those who are like me, please please share your thoughts for all to hear.

Reading this reminds me of my involvement at the Ministry of the Spirit of Truth. Yes, there's transformation and at the beginning everything feels like heaven. But nobody knows about the slave work, the thought reform the spiritual abuse and even sexual abuses.
I'm glad that part of my life is over, and I feel so sorry for those who fall into these traps. ery dangerous org, high rate of psychosis and suicide post-seminar w/no followup. Classic LGAT.
If you want to see what happens to the people who become brainwashed by this type of groups please see:
http://whathappenedtodeerfield.wordpress.com/
I hope with all my heart that before you put the money in any of these scams you do your research.

PSI sucks, avoid this at all costs.

I have completed all PSI offerings even Principia. I am forever disconnecting my self from this fraudulent organization. They love you when you are buying their crap; they are nasty when you don't. I was so disgusted at the last Principia due to the pushing to buy the next event which will be The Summit, that I left the week long event half way through the week. I could go on and on; however I've decided if you would like honest feedback please contact me at: cbailey1357@comcast.net

I attended the PSI Basic seminar in Chicago, and initially believed it to be a good thing. So good in fact that I signed up for an advanced seminar (Psi-7), which is held at the compound (I mean ranch) in Northern California. However, only a couple of weeks after the basic seminar I became aware that I was totally unprepared to deal with the issues that the emotional raping of the Basic seminar opened in me. But, no fear, as the Psi gurus told me...all that will be dealt with in the next seminar.

I continued to have new difficulties in life all the way up to the advanced seminar. Once you get on the ranch in California it is nearly impossible to get out. Shame, guilt, belittling, browbeating, public humiliation, and the ever popular 'You're on silence' are the tactics they use to keep you from leaving. I finally was allowed to leave the ranch only after walking off a 'training exercise' and refusing to participate any further.

PSI claims to promote a 'win-win' philosophy. However, the only way to 'win' with PSI is not to become involved. When approached by someone about PSI, make them get specific. Don't allow them the luxury of 'not spoiling your experience.' Make them give you the intimate details of their life, they did it with a room full of strangers, they can do it with you. Then as you see how really screwed up most of the people who are into PSI really are, you'll be glad that you're not getting involved.

If anyone is contemplating a PSI seminar you may contact me via this list, I'll get back in touch with you, and tell you anything and everything that I know and have experienced with these self-trained hack psychology wannabes. If you're a PSI grad looking for a 'discussion', then send me a check for $3000 and I'll be glad to 'discuss' with you. But not before the check clears, I wouldn't want to 'give you any expectations.'

I have to laugh at all of these, no literally. I look at life as a experience and to see and hear people that have closed their mind off to growth is a horrible way to live. I have seen many lives changed for the better, relationships rekindled, people coming in that are so closed up and stuck in selfishness that getting a smile out of them would be like pulling teeth. What the writers fail to tell you about this is that we are a result of our experiances and when your raised with negativity or beat down for anything, you become closed off from accepting that you are not your past. When people leave a quality training like this and accept that they can be different and accept that they can CHOOSE to be different is powerful and creates a benchmark in their lifes.

It is so sad to see that one would think of this as a cult, when you can go to a church, read a book, watch the news and be influened to exactly what they want you to be induced to. There is no cool-aid, no NIKE shoes and nothing in these things that hurt people in anyway except when people like you leave feeling sorry for yourself and choosing to not to step out of the box and live a life that is much more full.

The single most powerful law is the law of attraction. I would suggest looking at the people you attract in your life and review what your thinking.

Good luck in your endeavor for happiness

PS, I did not attend the groups your are talking about, however PSI Seminars is one that I can absolutely vouch for. Changed my life and has brough more happiness and success in every area in my life. I was always down, kind of like you, but I was open for change.

Duane

Flirtation with the Cult/LGAT
So I recently attended a recruitment meeting for an LGAT- a Large Group Awareness Training. These cult-like groups don't really have a compound and make you live there; they are mostly about getting your money by charging you absurdly huge amounts of money for seminars that use some very shady tactics.

I had presented a speech the night before at my school, discussing the ways that cults and LGATs hook people and their similarities to hypnotic techniques.
So I went the next night to actually observe what went on and see what happens. Here's the story:

The first thing was that I signed in to a table outside the hotel ballroom. Several of the seminar leaders were standing by, dressed immaculately. I approached one, smiled, and signed in and was given a name tag. The man recognized my name (I had been emailing him) and introduced himself, asking who had brought me. I told him nobody.

Tonight's event was the "Graduation" from the initial seminar, which had taken place over 4 days and cost a shade under $500. To celebrate the graduates, all the participants who'd made it through the four days were invited to bring their friends and family along. As the crowd mingled, the grads and guests mingled and chatted with Seminar employees who strolled around, making introductions.

None of them attempted to talk to me- the lone guy ambling around, talking on my cell phone periodically, taking notes here and there.

Finally we were let inside to the ballroom where the meeting was being held. We took our seats. Some seminar people went around the room, still talking to people, working the room.

The man I'd been emailing came to the front, introduced himself, proudly pointed out the grads, and asked us all to give a big hand to celebrate their achievement. I glanced around the room- the grads all looked so excited, so happy, but it was nothing next to when the speaker introduced the man who'd actually led the entire seminar.
When he came bounding up on stage and took the mike, the grads went wild. It was spooky- it was like Elvis inciting a flock of girls. The grads even gave him a standing ovation, and, as he spoke for the next hour or so, the grads' glee didn't diminish- they kept giggling in bliss and ecstasy.

The moderator spoke at length, again congratulating the grads, at first admitting a couple of things- first off, how odd this must all seem to the guests. "You get BEGGED to come to this by your friends or family, and now you're here, hearing all this, right?" Pretty much.
"And you must think its kinda weird, right? They're telling you 'You gotta come to this! BUT- I can't tell you what it's about!" The grad next to me giggled. "Well, let me tell you: it's not a cult. No. We're here to help you, to get you to achieve your full potential…." He went on; talking about what the course could do for you, but in very vague terms. "Nobody's forcing you to attend, right? We're all here on our own free will, are we not? We all have the choice to accept or decline." I nodded, but my stomach was turning. This is exactly the 'illusion of choice' that a cult would present.

The moderator went on to tell a little about the seminar, but even he admitted it was hard to put into concrete terms- that it was really something that must be experienced, because there were so many group exercises; that it was very 'experiential.' I wanted to hear more about this, to find out what the exercises were like, but he would only say it was like a taste of steak; that the only way to see it was to actually go through with it.
One of the more disturbing moments was when he presented a 'theory of mind' on the board to illustrate how our minds work. It bothered me because it was similar to part of the hypnotic induction process in how you describe the workings of the mind and how hypnosis works, just before you actually perform it. Basically, 'you first describe, and then you perform.' He prattled on about it, and I nodded my head, pretending to be intrigued instead of horrified.
He next had all the grads come up on stage as we applauded them. The mod continued heaping all the adulation and praise onto him that he could, recognizing them for being on the pathway to success and overcoming their personal limitations. He gave them diplomas and read them on stage, which pretty much just reinforced or repeated what he'd said a minute ago. Then he asked the grinning grads to tell us all about how much they loved the program and their experience, to tell us how great it was. "Just try to sum it up in one word, " he challenged them.
They thought a moment and then you heard them say things like "enlightening", "success", "learning", "magical", etc.
Now came another creepy highlight.
"And how many of you had resistance at first, when you came in here, all but kicking and screaming, at the start of the first day?"
Almost all raised their hand. "How about at the end of the first day?" Most hands stayed up. "And the second day?" About half the hands were still up. "How about the third day?"
ONE hand remained in the air.
Jesus Christ, I thought. This is how it works- the first two days are spent in long exercises designed to break, embarrass, or humiliate these people, and the second two days are about building them back up.
It was pretty insidious. One thing a cult or LGAT would do is shower the individual with love and acceptance. But this group went one better- start with ridiculing them or tearing them down. It actually makes sense- in one hypnotic induction, we create relaxation by first inducing some stress, and when that's absent, the relaxation is more powerfully felt. And likewise, how best to show love and acceptance? By first creating its opposite experience….

But why would nobody walk off after the first few hours of abuse? Simple; they've heard the promise of personal benefit if you stay in for the full four days; plus, you're not eligible to get your money back for any reason if you don't complete the course in full.
After this, the moderator showed the schedule for the next seminar (four days- 2 days of 6pm to midnight, and 2 days of 10am-8pm) and presented the cost and where we could sign up, also saying if we had any doubts, just ask around tonight, and to take it, since we could always get our money back if we were dissatisfied (provided we completed, of course). He closed by suggesting we now turn to the person who brought us here and ask them why they so badly wanted us to take this seminar.
I turned to the man next to me, "A", I'll call him, and began asking questions. I talked to him for a while, learning that a friend had gotten him into this almost a year ago. At first he had declined but I guess the friend had badgered him enough and he finally took it. I also learned he was new in town and I wondered why he'd waited till he'd moved to take it, but didn't ask him.

He told me that he'd always been into reading about religions, philosophy, self improvement, and the like. Off the bat, he also admitted that this seminar was like a religion and wasn't- it was definitely an organization, and they were out to make money, plain and simple. That said, he felt like it benefited him quite a lot anyways.
I moved on to my next question. "I understand this stuff is a lot of group exercises; that you learn a lot in there."
"Oh, yes, definitely, " he nodded vigorously.
"But what was it like? What did you guys do?"
He looked blankly, as if he'd lost his train of thought, finally saying. "It's hard to describe. We did so many…” and trailed off- it was as if he couldn't remember any! Why couldn't these people describe what had gone on? It wasn't like they were being coy or secretive about it; it's more like they just couldn't retrieve the memory!
He finally told me an odd one about the inner child or intuition, being in groups of 2, where one person describes a sick friend, giving somebody a few clues, asking them to come up w/ whatever they intuit about the described person. "A" claimed 90% accuracy rate in the facts the intuition drags up and looked at me, wide-eyed, for my reaction. I saw through this (vague-speak, like an Oracle; can be interpreted so widely that it could apply to nearly anything) but he was amazed by it. I feigned amazement, too.
"What else did you guys do?"
I really had to pry it out of him- you'd think in four days of doing mainly exercises, he'd be able to remember much more, more readily, but no. Finally he came up with another, and it was sad.
I'd had heard of this one before: the "broke your word" thing, designed to make everybody see their flaws and play that up. "A" described how he seemed to have done the best, seeming to have kept his word the most faithfully, for a full week, until the mod turned it on him, saying he didn't believe it; either A had lied to him, or A had broken his word to himself. When confronted with that, A said he felt shocked, and reacted in an astonished manner, as if he were still stunned by it. He even described hearing that as a "slap in the face." Of course, this same point was driven in, in many ways, to all the graduates in those first 2 days.
At end of our conversation, I asked if he had any last things to tell me about it, and he advised me to "take the jump" and just try it out. He thought I'd get a lot out of it, that I was curious and smart. He hoped it would help him succeed farther, especially to get over his shyness, loner tendencies, and to help him become a leader- after all, he'd signed up for the next 2 courses, which probably cost $6, 000 to $8, 000.
I kind of wanted to hear more about this and track his progress, so I exchanged phone numbers with him and left, wondering what I'd hear next. As I stood up to go, I noticed nobody ever asked me directly to sign up, which was kind of a nice sign, but then again, when I looked around, I saw all the seminar people were busy talking to the grads and their guests.

So what hypnotic techniques and methods did I observe? I'll detail them in the next blog.
Oh- and if you don't think these people are out to take your money, if you really think they're beneficial- I just have one question for you:
If this group does so much good, and there's nothing sinister or shady about their method, and that it really WILL change you life, well, why can nobody who goes through the program seem to be able to tell many details of it?

Surely something so important, so groundbreaking in one's life would be a bit more memorable, wouldn't it?

How the Cult Works: Hypnotic Secrets
So here's my expose on how and why the group worked:
One of the really ingenious tactics they used was not to use any kind of promotion except for the very best of all: word of mouth. Everybody knows how strong word-of-mouth is, and anybody can tell you that's going to beat any paid advertisement. But these people went a step further- they had instilled it into their grads that they absolutely HAD to share this path to success with whoever they loved and cared most about.
I thought that was pretty smart. Just think: if your closest friends and most beloved family members came begging you to do something, you'd surely listen to them and consider it over just about any other source in the world, wouldn't you? I mean, what if it was your parents? Your wife or husband? And that's exactly what I saw. One woman even brought her 8 year old daughter.
As further proof that the seminar leaders found this angle to be absolutely critical, remember that nobody approached me before the meeting to give me a friendly hello. Why? Because I'd come alone- they had no convenient grad to use as an opportunity to springboard through to me. No, they concentrated on talking to the grads and getting through to THEIR guests. They knew full well that those people were the ones to work on, because they already had a very solid 'in'. Remember also that the lead guy took notice of me when I signed on and his first question was to ask who brought me.
The Moderator: He was definitely 'built up' in the grads' mind as an authority figure; unquestioned, blindly accepted, and acknowledged as somebody who had total control and commanded total admiration of the group. Again, it was creepy to see the unabashed adulation for the guy- standing ovations, big vacant smiles and laughs at whatever he said.
The moderator was also quite smart early on in his speech to disavow that the group was a cult or that it was shady, all the while acknowledging it was mysterious, wasn't it? In hypnosis, one great tactic is basically to acknowledge whatever the client says; all the while you lead them in the direction you want. He also made sure to let everybody know that they had a choice to say yes or no to this, but to request that you at least give a chance and listen with an open mind. Doing this puts the guests at ease and calms them, as well as creates an "illusion of choice." If you believe you have a choice, it relieves the pressure and you remove your mental blocks and defenses to whatever you're about to hear.
Also, this talk was similar to our hypnotic pre-induction speech, in which we give to tell the client what is going to happen, what to expect, and demystify the process, etc.
Most of the talk was quite vague and nebulous- the moderator almost never gave concrete ideas or facts, but rather couched everything in metaphoric and indistinct terms- these is completely the language of trance, especially that method practiced by Milton Erickson, who could basically hypnotize somebody without them really being aware of how it was working. The way it works is that the mind of the subject is distracted, trying to address and make sense of the vagueness, while the speaker continues, throwing out more stuff, slowly overwhelming the subject's critical mind and thought processes, until they just want to escape, which they do- into hyper suggestibility and hypnosis.
The Theory of Mind diagram was more of the same- misdirection, vagueness, and giving an explanation of how the mind works. Again, we do something almost identical in hypnosis. It's part of the standard process.
Bringing Up the Grads: This was just more of the adulation and praise and attention lavished on those who succeed in the group's terms. If they deviate or fail, they are punished, ridiculed, but once they make it through, they are accepted and rewarded by the group. These people who did stick it through probably have some issues on where they belong, or are looking for a place or group to have an identity with (In fact, the man I'd later talk to would tell me as much, saying that he was new in town, didn't have any friends, and was sort of lonely. I also thought it was curious he waited for a year to take the class, it was as if he had come at a more vulnerable time).
Also, with this praise/reward, it becomes even more powerful when it's contrasted against earlier punishment methods- again, what better way to make somebody feel loved or appreciated than to first put them down?
RESISTANCE: The major creepy moment. In the first two days, the grads admitted resistance to the group's exercises, but almost none for the 2nd two days. This suggests that the first couple days were completely about breaking down the grads, showing them they were insignificant, wrong, and fundamentally incorrect and deeply flawed. Of COURSE there would be resistance to that. Incidentally, in almost ANY hypnosis, there is resistance of some sort, even for very positive therapy, because the subconscious is grappling with suggestions for change and there's a consequent struggle as it grapples with integrating the hypnotherapist's suggestions. And hypnotherapists actually take resistance as a positive sign, because it means that the course of therapy is working...
So 'resistance' means that the lessons are sinking into the grads, and after two day's worth of these exercises they're open to all sorts of things, reflecting sadly over this deeply vulnerable self that has been exposed and open. They go home, probably feeling broken and beaten down. But there's not much time to reflect on that and think too critically about it, because after the second day ends (at midnight), they're back at 10am the next day for another round. So they have just enough time to sleep before they return- this limits the chance they have to think too much about it and try to get out of the seminar, which they probably won't, because they can't get a refund unless they tough it out for the full four days. So they reluctantly trudge back to the group, likely expecting more abuse and breaking-down exercises.
But when they come back, there's a change: the group is using a new tactic! Now, they're focusing on acceptance, more positive things, likely telling them that they can change and have all they could ever want if they take the next courses and learn more what the group has to offer. And that day and the next are devoted to showing them acceptance and love, as well as heavily pitching their higher levels of courses.
In fact, I'd suspect that the group doesn't really impart much, if any, lessons for success in the first seminar. I bet, as the first session in hypnosis is really to condition the subject for more hypnosis, that the group is really just priming the individual client for more and more sessions and seminars.
Another thing that contributed to breaking down the individual's willpower and opening their suggestibility was the long hours. There are many ways to go into trance; the best known of which are things like dancing, chanting, singing (which I heard there was singing going on at these), and doing this for long periods of time. However, a lesser-known way of increasing suggestibility is by controlling the diet. Not just by fasting, but by affecting the blood sugar levels, by not eating, or eating too much. If you control the diet (which seems likely, since the first two days were held during typical dinner hours), you could affect blood sugar, making it drop and creating a subtle anxious, hyper suggestible state in your subjects.
That said, when all was said and done by the 4th day, they had created 30 people who had 'learned' that this group was the key to success and changing their lives, and were also told to share this wondrous revelation with all the loved ones in their lives. This was reinforced again after the moderator finished talking and suggested that we turn to the people who brought us and ask them why they wanted us to take the class so badly. Again, they're using the power of word of mouth (from loved and trusted friends and family) to convince and tantalize the guests, so they can continue the cycle.
So there you have it- of course, many different walks of life use these methods, but before you dismiss it, you have to admit that when a group is using all sorts of hypnotic manipulation tactics, whether or not they intend to, then they consequently must be practicing hypnotic manipulation, whether they intend to or not.
I think I've made a pretty strong case that's what this group is obviously doing and using that leverage for the sole purpose of making a lot of money from their seminars.
Oh, and here's another bit of evidence why I doubt their sincerity: Part of their name/motto is about people working synergistically together. You'd think with a focus like that, what better synergy could you get than a couple of their grads partnering up? Or better yet, a big group of them networking within each other, buttressing and backing each other up? What a strong, powerful bond, right?
But when I asked "A" if he was going to stay in touch with his fellow grads, who we had just been hearing had some sort of collective epiphany all together, he reacted like the thought had never really occurred to him. "Hm, I guess so, that might be good, " he said hesitatingly.

Dear Michelle, or whoever your are, (I'm not speaking to the Michelle Shelton),

I like that you seem conflicted over your experiences with PSI Seminars. I too, sometimes feel this way. On the one hand, I have received much benefit from these seminars, however, on the other, there is something inside me that gives me a "creepy" feeling about some of my experiences. I too have done all the advanced seminars. I'd love to talk with you via email. If you could respond, Michelle, or whoever you are. Just let me know that you're still out there. I'm speaking to the person who wrote the initial post, not the person who commented on the post. Anyways, there aren't many people I can talk to about my experiences, since most of my friends and family haven't done the seminars, the people I've met from the seminars are "biased, " so to speak, and those who "hate" PSI are a little on the extreme for me.

I truly believe that whatever path one takes on the road to happiness is the "right" path for them, as long as they are not hurting themselves or others in the process. I'm happy for those who have found happiness and success by using the tools of PSI, however, I wish they could return the same respect for someone who has their doubts. PSI is a great vehicle, however, it's not the only ride in town!

At the final seminar, Principia, I was at times disgusted by some of the speakers aggressive attempts to sell their products on self help, on what seemed like some sort of "get rich quick" schemes. There are many other things that I witnessed that I find disturbing... I don't want to discuss them on a public forum, though.

You sound like a normal person who is questioning some experiences in your past. My only advice to you, is to look at your experiences with PSI as important learning experiences, whether or not it was a mistake, you still have learned from it. Perhaps you and I will be more cautious and listen to our intuition next time we deal with any "self-help" group.

-MS

Interesting. This is some weird-o using my website and name to post negative stuff about psi seminars. PSI seminars is an AWESOME experience. My marriage is better...my business is better...everything is better after going through their seminars. Don't believe everything you read online...this guy's wife left him because she realized what a nut job he was and now he has no life and goes all over the web slandering psi seminars. So, if you want to know the truth about them, please email the real Michelle Shelton of azmastermind.com and I will share my experience with you and even give you my corporate discount so you can attend. You will LOVE it.
Michelle Shelton

My partner at PSI 7 had his wife leave him and accuse him of cruelty and abuse. I do not know where this came from. He was working on himself to be a better husband and father. It tears my heart. I think she was reading about how many came back from PSI and broke off their marriages. He wanted the opposite and got it anyway:(
As for me, the experience was positive. My life and relationship has been helped. But the truth is that we each need to walk our own walk. Taking the time and $ for an intense experience to examine yourself can help you to change for the better. For reasons like you find here, I would avoid it if you are not well grounded. No-where outside yourself can you find what you really want and need. There are many ways to find this. PSI is one that works for some, but not without some risk.

PSI seminars is like network mrketing, except the residual income goes to the people at the top. It is designed like network marketing, as it came from holiday magic, shirley hunt is a network marketer and it is better than network marketing ( for PSI Seminars ) as the believers work for free. which has landed the company into labor law violations in denver, as a result of an employee complaint. the material is recycled pop psychology and since this is a complaint board, the original author has evvery right to voice her frustrations. This is not one of the healthiest products out there..look at some of the courses Oprah endorses and and do your homework. There is a lot of dysfunction within the company in its relationships, and how it markets, better to stay away and not get caught up ...in the drama..all the best.

I have graduated from the PSI Basic.
I am truly shocked with all this negativity I read here. They didnt strip me of my own thoughts morals logic or values. My marriage was saved after we attended- better communication, stronger friendship and true honesty. We are far from perfect and didnt leave the seminar with an over night fix. Through day to day life we have used our new tools to create stronger and happier relationships with others and each other. It's really up to us how we want our life to be, we can not change other people, we only have the power to change ourself. We can not always change what happens to us in life but we CAN change how we react to it. Everyone leaves with their own kind of experience from the seminar. Can I say the seminar saved my marriage? I dont think so. I think the seminar showed me to look within myself, be honest with myself. Everything starts and begins with me. My husband and I saved our marriage because thats what we really wanted to do. I really suggest if you havent attended, go check it out- see what it is that your spouse or family members learned- see if they were really brainwashed. Dont worry you can drink the water :)

I've spent the last 4 days in PSI Basic training. I enjoyed the seminar. It touched on a variety of subjects all of which had to do with discovering more about myself and how I think. I had some good experiences and some personal growth. It's true they apply pressure to get you to bring your friends to an introductory session and to get you to sign up for the next, much more expensive seminar. The whole class gets an hour long sales pitch for the next seminar. Then, there's 20 minutes of the 12 staff members talking to people one-on-one. I got hit up once, stood my ground, and the guy backed off. It wasn't a big deal to me. I had a worse experience with a door-to-door Kirby vacuum cleaner salesman. Yes, it's heavy handed, but it's a free country and you don't have to buy anything you don't want. Personally, I dismissed the sales pitch, felt gratitude for having learned what I did, and moved on. And, I didn't get any heat for not signing up.

Keep in mind the general public attends these seminars. There's no screening process and there's a lot of pain and suffering in the world. When someone is confronted with exercises that have them review past hurts, there are people with enormous burdens who are unloading, perhaps, for the first time ever. On the application, you are required to state if you are undergoing psychiatric treatment or have a mental illness. If so, you can't attend. There's no verification of records so its possible to have mentally ill people attend or people who aren't being treated, but should be. There are also people who have no friends in their lives and the good feelings generated from the seminar experience cause them to want to perpetuate it with the same people. So I'm sure there's people who get fixated on the whole thing, but I don't know that it's PSI Seminars fault per se.

It is a New Age course, so to speak. Occasionally, there were some facts or famous anecdotes which weren't quite accurate. But, on the whole, I found it to be a very good seminar. They clearly tell you if there's something you can use, use it and if you don't like a concept, then don't use it. The people who completely change their identity or seem brainwashed are probably people who thought they were completely "broken" before the seminars. I suspect these are the same personality types who take on other identities to replace their own: bikers, Goths, punks, or sometimes corporate executives. They don't like who they are so they replace their identity with somebody else. In those cases, if it wasn't a PSI Seminars identity, it would definitely be something else.

PSI Seminars is a business. They have to put out a good product, make people feel good about how they spent their money, and gain new customers. Otherwise, they go out of business. How is this any different from any other business?

Have you read Michelle's comments and website, ? It is clear she is not the brightest light bulb on the Christmas tree.

Hi Michelle, thanks for your comments, but I think you're full of [censored]! Please grow up and look at what your doing and asked yourself "What if your wrong?"

Flirtation with the Cult/LGAT
So I recently attended a recruitment meeting for an LGAT- a Large Group Awareness Training. These cult-like groups don't really have a compound and make you live there; they are mostly about getting your money by charging you absurdly huge amounts of money for seminars that use some very shady tactics.

I had presented a speech the night before at my school, discussing the ways that cults and LGATs hook people and their similarities to hypnotic techniques.
So I went the next night to actually observe what went on and see what happens. Here's the story:

The first thing was that I signed in to a table outside the hotel ballroom. Several of the seminar leaders were standing by, dressed immaculately. I approached one, smiled, and signed in and was given a name tag. The man recognized my name (I had been emailing him) and introduced himself, asking who had brought me. I told him nobody.

Tonight's event was the "Graduation" from the initial seminar, which had taken place over 4 days and cost a shade under $500. To celebrate the graduates, all the participants who'd made it through the four days were invited to bring their friends and family along. As the crowd mingled, the grads and guests mingled and chatted with Seminar employees who strolled around, making introductions.

None of them attempted to talk to me- the lone guy ambling around, talking on my cell phone periodically, taking notes here and there.

Finally we were let inside to the ballroom where the meeting was being held. We took our seats. Some seminar people went around the room, still talking to people, working the room.

The man I'd been emailing came to the front, introduced himself, proudly pointed out the grads, and asked us all to give a big hand to celebrate their achievement. I glanced around the room- the grads all looked so excited, so happy, but it was nothing next to when the speaker introduced the man who'd actually led the entire seminar. When he came bounding up on stage and took the mike, the grads went wild. It was spooky- it was like Elvis inciting a flock of girls. The grads even gave him a standing ovation, and, as he spoke for the next hour or so, the grads' glee didn't diminish- they kept giggling in bliss and ecstasy.

The moderator spoke at length, again congratulating the grads, at first admitting a couple of things- first off, how odd this must all seem to the guests. "You get BEGGED to come to this by your friends or family, and now you're here, hearing all this, right?" Pretty much. "And you must think its kinda weird, right? They're telling you 'You gotta come to this! BUT- I can't tell you what it's about!" The grad next to me giggled. "Well, let me tell you: it's not a cult. No. We're here to help you, to get you to achieve your full potential…." He went on; talking about what the course could do for you, but in very vague terms. "Nobody's forcing you to attend, right? We're all here on our own free will, are we not? We all have the choice to accept or decline." I nodded, but my stomach was turning. This is exactly the 'illusion of choice' that a cult would present.

The moderator went on to tell a little about the seminar, but even he admitted it was hard to put into concrete terms- that it was really something that must be experienced, because there were so many group exercises; that it was very 'experiential.' I wanted to hear more about this, to find out what the exercises were like, but he would only say it was like a taste of steak; that the only way to see it was to actually go through with it. One of the more disturbing moments was when he presented a 'theory of mind' on the board to illustrate how our minds work. It bothered me because it was similar to part of the hypnotic induction process in how you describe the workings of the mind and how hypnosis works, just before you actually perform it. Basically, 'you first describe, and then you perform.' He prattled on about it, and I nodded my head, pretending to be intrigued instead of horrified. He next had all the grads come up on stage as we applauded them. The mod continued heaping all the adulation and praise onto him that he could, recognizing them for being on the pathway to success and overcoming their personal limitations. He gave them diplomas and read them on stage, which pretty much just reinforced or repeated what he'd said a minute ago. Then he asked the grinning grads to tell us all about how much they loved the program and their experience, to tell us how great it was. "Just try to sum it up in one word, " he challenged them. They thought a moment and then you heard them say things like "enlightening", "success", "learning", "magical", etc. Now came another creepy highlight.
"And how many of you had resistance at first, when you came in here, all but kicking and screaming, at the start of the first day?" Almost all raised their hand. "How about at the end of the first day?" Most hands stayed up. "And the second day?" About half the hands were still up. "How about the third day?"
ONE hand remained in the air.

Jesus Christ, I thought. This is how it works- the first two days are spent in long exercises designed to break, embarrass, or humiliate these people, and the second two days are about building them back up.
It was pretty insidious. One thing a cult or LGAT would do is shower the individual with love and acceptance. But this group went one better- start with ridiculing them or tearing them down. It actually makes sense- in one hypnotic induction, we create relaxation by first inducing some stress, and when that's absent, the relaxation is more powerfully felt. And likewise, how best to show love and acceptance? By first creating its opposite experience….

But why would nobody walk off after the first few hours of abuse? Simple; they've heard the promise of personal benefit if you stay in for the full four days; plus, you're not eligible to get your money back for any reason if you don't complete the course in full.

After this, the moderator showed the schedule for the next seminar (four days- 2 days of 6pm to midnight, and 2 days of 10am-8pm) and presented the cost and where we could sign up, also saying if we had any doubts, just ask around tonight, and to take it, since we could always get our money back if we were dissatisfied (provided we completed, of course). He closed by suggesting we now turn to the person who brought us here and ask them why they so badly wanted us to take this seminar.
I turned to the man next to me, "A", I'll call him, and began asking questions. I talked to him for a while, learning that a friend had gotten him into this almost a year ago. At first he had declined but I guess the friend had badgered him enough and he finally took it. I also learned he was new in town and I wondered why he'd waited till he'd moved to take it, but didn't ask him.

He told me that he'd always been into reading about religions, philosophy, self improvement, and the like. Off the bat, he also admitted that this seminar was like a religion and wasn't- it was definitely an organization, and they were out to make money, plain and simple. That said, he felt like it benefited him quite a lot anyways. I moved on to my next question. "I understand this stuff is a lot of group exercises; that you learn a lot in there." "Oh, yes, definitely, " he nodded vigorously.
"But what was it like? What did you guys do?" He looked blankly, as if he'd lost his train of thought, finally saying. "It's hard to describe. We did so many…” and trailed off- it was as if he couldn't remember any! Why couldn't these people describe what had gone on? It wasn't like they were being coy or secretive about it; it's more like they just couldn't retrieve the memory!

He finally told me an odd one about the inner child or intuition, being in groups of 2, where one person describes a sick friend, giving somebody a few clues, asking them to come up w/ whatever they intuit about the described person. "A" claimed 90% accuracy rate in the facts the intuition drags up and looked at me, wide-eyed, for my reaction. I saw through this (vague-speak, like an Oracle; can be interpreted so widely that it could apply to nearly anything) but he was amazed by it. I feigned amazement, too.
"What else did you guys do?" I really had to pry it out of him- you'd think in four days of doing mainly exercises, he'd be able to remember much more, more readily, but no. Finally he came up with another, and it was sad.

I'd had heard of this one before: the "broke your word" thing, designed to make everybody see their flaws and play that up. "A" described how he seemed to have done the best, seeming to have kept his word the most faithfully, for a full week, until the mod turned it on him, saying he didn't believe it; either A had lied to him, or A had broken his word to himself. When confronted with that, A said he felt shocked, and reacted in an astonished manner, as if he were still stunned by it. He even described hearing that as a "slap in the face." Of course, this same point was driven in, in many ways, to all the graduates in those first 2 days.

At end of our conversation, I asked if he had any last things to tell me about it, and he advised me to "take the jump" and just try it out. He thought I'd get a lot out of it, that I was curious and smart. He hoped it would help him succeed farther, especially to get over his shyness, loner tendencies, and to help him become a leader- after all, he'd signed up for the next 2 courses, which probably cost $6, 000 to $8, 000. I kind of wanted to hear more about this and track his progress, so I exchanged phone numbers with him and left, wondering what I'd hear next. As I stood up to go, I noticed nobody ever asked me directly to sign up, which was kind of a nice sign, but then again, when I looked around, I saw all the seminar people were busy talking to the grads and their guests.

So what hypnotic techniques and methods did I observe? I'll detail them in the next blog.
Oh- and if you don't think these people are out to take your money, if you really think they're beneficial- I just have one question for you:

If this group does so much good, and there's nothing sinister or shady about their method, and that it really WILL change you life, well, why can nobody who goes through the program seem to be able to tell many details of it?

Surely something so important, so groundbreaking in one's life would be a bit more memorable, wouldn't it?

How the Cult Works: Hypnotic Secrets
So here's my expose on how and why the group worked:
One of the really ingenious tactics they used was not to use any kind of promotion except for the very best of all: word of mouth. Everybody knows how strong word-of-mouth is, and anybody can tell you that's going to beat any paid advertisement. But these people went a step further- they had instilled it into their grads that they absolutely HAD to share this path to success with whoever they loved and cared most about.

I thought that was pretty smart. Just think: if your closest friends and most beloved family members came begging you to do something, you'd surely listen to them and consider it over just about any other source in the world, wouldn't you? I mean, what if it was your parents? Your wife or husband? And that's exactly what I saw. One woman even brought her 8 year old daughter.

As further proof that the seminar leaders found this angle to be absolutely critical, remember that nobody approached me before the meeting to give me a friendly hello. Why? Because I'd come alone- they had no convenient grad to use as an opportunity to springboard through to me. No, they concentrated on talking to the grads and getting through to THEIR guests. They knew full well that those people were the ones to work on, because they already had a very solid 'in'. Remember also that the lead guy took notice of me when I signed on and his first question was to ask who brought me.
The Moderator: He was definitely 'built up' in the grads' mind as an authority figure; unquestioned, blindly accepted, and acknowledged as somebody who had total control and commanded total admiration of the group. Again, it was creepy to see the unabashed adulation for the guy- standing ovations, big vacant smiles and laughs at whatever he said.

The moderator was also quite smart early on in his speech to disavow that the group was a cult or that it was shady, all the while acknowledging it was mysterious, wasn't it? In hypnosis, one great tactic is basically to acknowledge whatever the client says; all the while you lead them in the direction you want. He also made sure to let everybody know that they had a choice to say yes or no to this, but to request that you at least give a chance and listen with an open mind. Doing this puts the guests at ease and calms them, as well as creates an "illusion of choice." If you believe you have a choice, it relieves the pressure and you remove your mental blocks and defenses to whatever you're about to hear.
Also, this talk was similar to our hypnotic pre-induction speech, in which we give to tell the client what is going to happen, what to expect, and demystify the process, etc.

Most of the talk was quite vague and nebulous- the moderator almost never gave concrete ideas or facts, but rather couched everything in metaphoric and indistinct terms- these is completely the language of trance, especially that method practiced by Milton Erickson, who could basically hypnotize somebody without them really being aware of how it was working. The way it works is that the mind of the subject is distracted, trying to address and make sense of the vagueness, while the speaker continues, throwing out more stuff, slowly overwhelming the subject's critical mind and thought processes, until they just want to escape, which they do- into hyper suggestibility and hypnosis.

The Theory of Mind diagram was more of the same- misdirection, vagueness, and giving an explanation of how the mind works. Again, we do something almost identical in hypnosis. It's part of the standard process.

Bringing Up the Grads: This was just more of the adulation and praise and attention lavished on those who succeed in the group's terms. If they deviate or fail, they are punished, ridiculed, but once they make it through, they are accepted and rewarded by the group. These people who did stick it through probably have some issues on where they belong, or are looking for a place or group to have an identity with (In fact, the man I'd later talk to would tell me as much, saying that he was new in town, didn't have any friends, and was sort of lonely. I also thought it was curious he waited for a year to take the class, it was as if he had come at a more vulnerable time).

Also, with this praise/reward, it becomes even more powerful when it's contrasted against earlier punishment methods- again, what better way to make somebody feel loved or appreciated than to first put them down?

RESISTANCE: The major creepy moment. In the first two days, the grads admitted resistance to the group's exercises, but almost none for the 2nd two days. This suggests that the first couple days were completely about breaking down the grads, showing them they were insignificant, wrong, and fundamentally incorrect and deeply flawed. Of COURSE there would be resistance to that. Incidentally, in almost ANY hypnosis, there is resistance of some sort, even for very positive therapy, because the subconscious is grappling with suggestions for change and there's a consequent struggle as it grapples with integrating the hypnotherapist's suggestions. And hypnotherapists actually take resistance as a positive sign, because it means that the course of therapy is working...

So 'resistance' means that the lessons are sinking into the grads, and after two day's worth of these exercises they're open to all sorts of things, reflecting sadly over this deeply vulnerable self that has been exposed and open. They go home, probably feeling broken and beaten down. But there's not much time to reflect on that and think too critically about it, because after the second day ends (at midnight), they're back at 10am the next day for another round. So they have just enough time to sleep before they return- this limits the chance they have to think too much about it and try to get out of the seminar, which they probably won't, because they can't get a refund unless they tough it out for the full four days. So they reluctantly trudge back to the group, likely expecting more abuse and breaking-down exercises.

But when they come back, there's a change: the group is using a new tactic! Now, they're focusing on acceptance, more positive things, likely telling them that they can change and have all they could ever want if they take the next courses and learn more what the group has to offer. And that day and the next are devoted to showing them acceptance and love, as well as heavily pitching their higher levels of courses.

In fact, I'd suspect that the group doesn't really impart much, if any, lessons for success in the first seminar. I bet, as the first session in hypnosis is really to condition the subject for more hypnosis, that the group is really just priming the individual client for more and more sessions and seminars.

Another thing that contributed to breaking down the individual's willpower and opening their suggestibility was the long hours. There are many ways to go into trance; the best known of which are things like dancing, chanting, singing (which I heard there was singing going on at these), and doing this for long periods of time. However, a lesser-known way of increasing suggestibility is by controlling the diet. Not just by fasting, but by affecting the blood sugar levels, by not eating, or eating too much. If you control the diet (which seems likely, since the first two days were held during typical dinner hours), you could affect blood sugar, making it drop and creating a subtle anxious, hyper suggestible state in your subjects.

That said, when all was said and done by the 4th day, they had created 30 people who had 'learned' that this group was the key to success and changing their lives, and were also told to share this wondrous revelation with all the loved ones in their lives. This was reinforced again after the moderator finished talking and suggested that we turn to the people who brought us and ask them why they wanted us to take the class so badly. Again, they're using the power of word of mouth (from loved and trusted friends and family) to convince and tantalize the guests, so they can continue the cycle.

So there you have it- of course, many different walks of life use these methods, but before you dismiss it, you have to admit that when a group is using all sorts of hypnotic manipulation tactics, whether or not they intend to, then they consequently must be practicing hypnotic manipulation, whether they intend to or not.

I think I've made a pretty strong case that's what this group is obviously doing and using that leverage for the sole purpose of making a lot of money from their seminars.

Oh, and here's another bit of evidence why I doubt their sincerity: Part of their name/motto is about people working synergistically together. You'd think with a focus like that, what better synergy could you get than a couple of their grads partnering up? Or better yet, a big group of them networking within each other, buttressing and backing each other up? What a strong, powerful bond, right?
But when I asked "A" if he was going to stay in touch with his fellow grads, who we had just been hearing had some sort of collective epiphany all together, he reacted like the thought had never really occurred to him. "Hm, I guess so, that might be good, " he said hesitatingly.

My husband and I went through the seminars TOGETHER. I find it interesting that so many of the people on here don't seem to be willing to grow with their spouse and then they wonder why they find themselves in different places in life. My husband and I learned this early on in our marriage when I was reading so many books and attending real estate seminars...I began to grow and he was not in the same place. We talked about it and agreed that we should both grow together so we are in the same place at the same time. Perhaps ask yourself why your spouse wanted to grow and you didn't? I see THAT as the reason marriages split up...I see it every day before any of them ever go to a seminar. When I take responsibility for myself, my marriage, my children, my finances...then and only then is when I am in the drivers seat. Taking a look internally and seeing why you have the results in your life that you have...that is key. So many on this board seem to give away the control of their life. If my husband was going to something and said it was so good and he wanted me to go...I would go because I trust, love and respect my husband. I would ask you...why didn't you value your marriage enough to trust? How in the world can someone else have so much control over your marriage?

Michelle Shelton
www.ranchesisters.com

So yesterday I was on my way home from a family reunion on a small but very full plane, and was extremely tired and just ready to turn my brain off. The woman next to me introduces herself and asks me what I was there for, bla bla bla. I answered her and was polite, but all I really wanted to do was read my book. She then says I seem tired and stressed, and I say, "yes, I am" and then it comes: "It sounds like your family could use some emotional counseling. Have you ever heard of PSI Seminars?" At this point, my brain screams. I suddenly become claustrophobic and want to get off the plane NOW! Instead of panicking, I tell her what I have heard about PSI. She then asks me where I have heard it. I say some forums that I go to. She tries to ask which forums, how does she log in, etc. I am very vague and evasive about rickross, and just tell her I cannot remember what they are called (at the point my brain was in last night, it was quite believable, too since I kept forgetting words and such). Then she asks all about whether I have heard of the secret or anything like that. So start to tell her about my linguistic analysis of said book, and how we use certain metaphors in order to make certain concepts more concrete and easily understandable. Suddenly, she didn't want to talk to me anymore. I managed to escape from that conversation much more easily than I thought I would.

Here is more emails going back and forth. Problems in marriage after their return from PSI7!
Proof that PSI causes problems with peoples marriages.

Re: [PSI7Team471] Any feedback?
On Mon, 9/22/08, Bxxxx Axxxx
From:
Subject: [PSI7Team471] Any feedback?
To: PSI7Team471@yahoogroups.com

Date: Monday, September 22, 2008, 6:57 PM
Strange I thought. My husband got out of psi7 and since then or I should say since we went to these classes he's been different. Not
in a good way. Example, since basic in July he's went out and turned his phone off about 8-9 times. In the 7 yrs we been together
he did that maybe 2x. He's been very cold towards me where as before he was a lot warmer. He accused me of taking interest in
someone from psi7 no idea where that came from. He said he see how people are so friendly up there and wonder what I was doing?
How weird is that. It seems a lot of his team mates found someone on the ranch and did not care about the 30 day rule. Not my
problem. I told him our team was serious about our ### and I couldn't say for others but no I was not even thinking of it. I had
a whole lotta my own bs to deal with. So this whole being responsible for yourself thing has been challenging to work with.
However I been totally surprising myself. The angry Bxxxx would have had a divorce by now after I got done doing the pay back.
wow. I don't want to be that way and I realized that by me being mean to him that is what gets him to get into shape. What an eye
opener. So this past weekend he did it again this time for the whole weekend. Which was his first weekend home since he went to
psi7. He had to work for 2 wks in cali before he came home after psi7. I know why we attracted each other in the first place but now
I no longer am willing to go back to my ego. It never did serve me. However, it would have served me in making my husband act
right. Scary. So talk about realization. I will never go back to that, even if it means parting ways. I talked to him like I never
did before after this weekend. I told him that I will not go back to operating from ego, so this is what's in my heart that I was
really hurt and he's been taking this new loving me for granted. Based on results. When he graduated psi7 we established rules for
our marriage which he has broke every one repeatedly even the ones he has made. Still doesn't make it right for me to break them too.
I been going through some major trials especially within my marriage. I told him I choose not to be a taker and will not do
things back to him however I am no ones door mat. So we spoke as we always do and I went to church Wednesday night and he came and met
me there. We saw a counselor Thursday night where he said he realized how much I changed and freaked him out in a sense because
he hasn't made that kind of changes. Pretty interesting. Then I told him I hope for his self that he is sure about what he wants and
is doing it to be a better man not changing because I will walk if he doesn't change. Then it will just keep resurfacing. It has been
a challenging ride for me in my marriage. I It made me realize how empowered I am and thanx for some people from the team reminding of
rule #6. Reminding of how far I have come and to be responsible for me. I found myself picking at him and realized I was doing it just
because I was frustrated with myself. The bottom line is that I just wasn't willing to give him me anymore. The real me. I tried
justifying how he doesn't deserve to know the real me and therefore I'll just talk 2 him from my ego. wow what a trip. I so had to
call of me forward lately to shift constantly all my negative thoughts. In the corner of my eye I could see my whole list of
justifications for why I'm going to get a divorce and never speak to him in a really long time. His family was even adding to my
justification list. I so had to stop and focus and call forth the real me to be responsible and shift this to a positive path for
myself. I know, a long message. Thanks for taking the time to read it. So I have and I have been noticing when I am in resistance a
lot faster now. I thank god for psi it has definitely helped my children as well have a better mother. I know I can do anything
literally. Any feedback? Where do you draw the line between not being a door mat or how can I tell if I'm just taking a back door?
If rules was established and constantly broken by one player? The player breaking it is saying there's nothing wrong with it but they
don't want me to play by the same rules. What is that communicating?

(OK, DOES ANYONE SEE A PATTERN HERE? LOOKS LIKE THE HUSBAND HAS FOUND ANOTHER WOMAN AND IS GETTING READY TO DUMP HIS WIFE BECAUSE SHE HAD COME BACK AS A PSI ###.)
Dear Bxxxxx,

What a kind and open heart you have! My advise would be do not give up your positive, giving side - sounds like you are trying to stay on the right path but are experiencing major turbulence! I want to share with you that I just watched the movie that Rob recommended, 'The Secret', then I watched it 4xs over. Some relevant excerpts: The Law of Attraction states if we stay positive and focused on what we want, we are bound to attract it in our lives (and vice verse)... in a relationship it is easy to see/feel the negative things... so try writing down all the things that are going 'right' and all the things you appreciate in your husband - that he has contributed (perhaps ask him to do the same) and share the list every day. Listen openly just as we did in class. Just a thought...

(THEN SHE RECEIVES THE "SUPPORT" FROM HER POD-MATE)

My husband also returned from PSI7 last month and we are working on the fundamentals. (WORKING ON THE FUNDAMENTALS)

It takes effort but "When You Put Your Heart in it", and "Honesty", you may experience some "Precious Pain" and "Lessons Learned" but "If We Hold on Together", you will "Believe Can Fly"... "My Wish" for you is complete love and happiness so "Dive" in, lead with your heart and go after the life you deserve!

Hugs,
Jxxxx

Re: [PSI7Team471] Any feedback?

Hey Bxxxx dont give up! I also have had some troubles with my hubby and am know seeing our marriage therapist again. Remeber old habits dont just disappear cuz u went to 7! it takes 90 days to install new habits. fight on, ur not a quiter! continue the counseling and hopefully the resentment and breaking of rules will stop. only u know what ur relatinship is like so be careful on the feedback cuz we will comment on what was wrote and do not know all that has happened between you both. My rule has always been if there is no physical or mental abuse then there is hope for a future together. I hope in your case its not that. being married is a learning process...so learn what works and toss out what doesn't. I love u and hope that with counseling and alot of love u are able to work things out!
(AND ANOTHER ONE; STARTING COUNSELING?)

THE BEGINNING OF THE END FOR AT LEAST THREE COUPLES THANKS TO PSI SEMIN

HI, MY NAME IS ROSSY NOVA DE ALMONTE.

MY SALESPERSON TEST NIN MASSACHUSETTS.

Psi hasn't give me my score I need help please

Terrible, PSI testing can't find my Real Estate salespersons National Portion test after I took it on January the 27Th, 2024I still dont know what the score was , No one can help me with this situation,

I am very disappointed with there sevice

PSI refuses to fix my account so I can take my real estate brokers exam. I have been asking them every 4 to 5 days since June 19th. 23 to fix it and they won't but they took my $210 from my bank account for the exam. So now I'm out $210 for my exam. I'm out 549 for my schooling for my real estate brokers and I can't take my exam.

I took this exam for the fourth time on September 9th 2023. I failed the exam again with only missing a few questions. i was wondering if there is a way to have this exam reviewed. Please let me know what i can do about this, my email is shawnjaltman@gmail.com. Thank you

The woman who works at the front desk is a bully, and I witnessed her make two people cry within the same day. Please stop hiring narcissistic bullies.

They cancelled an 8am proctored exam with no notice. I've been on hold for 45 minutes with no one able to tell me why the exam was cancelled. If you want reliability do not use PSI for your exam.

I logged in thirty minutes earlier like it asked and still didn’t get to take my exam and I waited an hour. I called several times and couldn’t get an answer I finally got in touch with a lady at Nha and filed a appeal because I never was able to take my exam.

They registered me for the wrong test and cannot get someone to help me straighten this out to get a refund and reschedule the right test. It’s been a month and dozens of calls and no one ever responds after their day they’re looking into it. BEYOND frustrating. They are hijacking’s my ability to get my license and get a job.

I tried for hours to log in without being able to last night. I did a system check twice before, and when I went to log in, it wouldn't let me. I tried it on two different computers. I'm frustrated after wasting days and money on PSI. I still don't have my test posted for a rescheduled day.

Hi Dr. Spaghetti,

Did you pass the test that PSI Administered?