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Judge Presiding over Jan-Pro case rules against Jani-King. The same fate awaits Jan-Pro.

Another Judge once again rules against the cleaning franchisors this time against Jani-King. They to like coverall will have to pay back there cleaners there franchise fees. The cleaners are ruled to be employees. I'm only posting a small portion of the article to read the whole article you can go to the following link.

http://www.bluemaumau.org/11679/deja_vu_janiking_workers_are_not_franchisees

Posted Wed, 2012/06/20 - 13:23 by Janet Sparks

Deja Vu: Jani-King Workers Are Not Franchisees

BOSTON – A district judge once again has issued an order stating that Jani-King International and other entities misclassified its janitorial workers in Massachusetts by labeling them as franchisees.

In doing so, the world’s largest janitorial cleaning service franchisor will have to pay damages to the employees, which will include the franchise fees and additional business fees, as well as all insurance payments made by the workers. The judge also denied the company’s efforts to decertify the class action lawsuit, at this time representing approximately 300 janitorial workers

Here is the most recent article. Coverall has to post a 3 MILLION DOLLAR BOND before they can appeal!

Franchisor Nightmare: The Scandal At Coverall

By Carol Tice, Forbes Magazine 5/11/2012

Janitorial franchise Coverall is receiving a $3 million bill from a Massachusetts court this week in a lawsuit other franchisors are watching closely. At the heart of the case is a controversy over whether some franchise owners aren’t franchisees at all, but rather employees who’ve had to pay fees for the right to have their job.

The court ruled last fall that the Boca Raton, Fla.-based franchisor must pay back the franchise fees over 100 people — mostly new immigrants — paid the company, plus interest and lawsuit costs. The court’s opinion? Privately held Coverall misclassified its employees as franchisees, so their fees should be refunded.

The damages calculation was just completed this week, says attorney Shannon Liss-Riordan of the firm Lichten & Liss-Riordan, who represents workers in the case. She says this judgment may only be the beginning — more than 700 additional Massachusetts Coverall workers are still pressing their claims.

Coverall’s woes stem from the way the company structured their franchise arrangements. Most franchises work like this: An owner pays a franchise fee and receives training and marketing help from the parent company. But other than that, the franchisee is in charge of their own business, and finds clients, makes sales, and records revenue. Out of that revenue, a franchise royalty is then sent off to the corporate parent.

Many of the big janitorial franchises operate differently, the suit claims.

Instead of funds flowing from franchise units up to the corporate parent in the form of royalties, “money flows downhill, ” Liss-Riordan says. The suit documented that in general, Coverall finds the clients, assigns them to franchisees, negotiates contracts, bills and collects payments — and then pays the franchisee their share. This structure led the court to conclude the relationship is really that of employer and employee.

As you might expect, the ruling in Awuah v Coverall North America Inc. has sent a shiver down the spine of the franchising industry ever since the state court ruled against Coverall last year. Similar suits are in process in other states and against other major janitorial franchisees, including Jani-King and Jan-Pro, says Liss-Riordan. Attorneys are looking to other states with strong employment laws, such as California, as likely places to pursue similar class-action lawsuits on behalf of franchisees.

For its part, fast-growing Coverall plans to appeal the Massachusetts decision. The company issued a statement saying, “Coverall still believes its Franchised Owners are independent business owners and not employes; as such, they operate their commercial cleaning service businesses, maintaining accounts and hiring independently.”

Unsurprisingly, the International Franchise Association is also unhappy with the ruling, which is the first time courts have ruled against franchisors in this manner. “We continue to believe that the franchise industry should not be subjected to this Massachusetts independent contractor law, ” IFA said.

Will there be more cases like this? Bet on it, says Liss-Riordan. But don’t expect this to spread throughout the franchise world.

Most franchises don’t structure their agreements with franchisees the way janitorial chains do, Liss-Riordan says. Asked to identify another industry that might be next, she says she’s heard of no others with similar franchise setups.

“This decision has not ended franchising as we know it, ” says Liss-Riordan. “The sky is not falling.”

http://www.forbes.com/sites/caroltice/2012/05/11/are-some-franchisees-really-employees/

To lying source, I know many veterans who got ripped-off. These veterans are in the process of suing jan-pro and the other cleaning franchisors. piper can appeal, how ever it will not take six years. Please stop Lying so much. Also before they can appeal Coverall has to PUT UP a 3 MILLION DOLLAR BOND ! It also looks like Attorney Fortman's clients that got ripped-off have recently been on FOX. FOX exposed how these cleaning franchisors have riped-off people and the cleaning franchisors were exposed to be PONZI SCHEMES!

Judge Orders cleaning franchisor to Pay for ripping off cleaners who bought into the Ponzi Scheme!

'The Sky is Not Falling'
Although ruling in Coverall case could cause sweeping changes

By Julie Bennett
As published in: Franchise Times - May 2012

Coverall’s five-year legal battle over whether its Massachusetts franchisees are really company employees is not over, but the lawsuit’s growing success is generating alarm within the franchise community. In March, District Court Judge William Young ruled again in the franchisees’ favor, stating that a group of at least 115 franchisees were misclassified as independent contractors and are eligible for the benefits employees would have earned during their tenure with Coverall, including back wages and overtime pay.

He ordered Coverall to refund the monies the franchisees had spent on franchise fees, cleaning contracts and insurance, and said he would impose triple damages on the cleaning company back to 2006. “We’re talking tens of thousands of dollars for most of the workers, ” said Shannon Liss-Riordan, of Lichten & Liss-Riordan in Boston.

Judge Young was expected to rule on the total amount of damages in mid-April. And as soon as that happens, lead defense attorney Norman Leon, a partner in DLA Piper’s Chicago office, said that Coverall would file another appeal. In order to ask the U.S. Court of Appeals, First Circuit, to review Judge Young’s most recent ruling, Coverall will have to post a bond based on the total damage amount, Leon said. Oral arguments should then begin in nine to 12 months.

More to be included in suit

In the meantime, Liss-Riordan said she will continue to argue that other Coverall franchisees who had signed arbitration agreements should also be included in the class-action litigation. And, she said, her firm will continue to represent franchisees of Jani-King, Jan-Pro, System 4 and All-Pro in similar employee misclassification lawsuits in Massachusetts.

The implications of these lawsuits are profound. All the janitorial cleaning franchises involved have reportedly stopped selling franchises in Massachusetts and some franchise industry insiders are concerned other types of franchise companies will follow. Judge Young had based his ruling on the fact that Coverall and its franchisees are involved in the same business. “If that is the case, ” Leon said, “it is difficult to conceive of any franchise or distribution system where different levels are not deemed to be in the same business, which would make every franchisee an employee.”

The International Franchise Association and some franchise attorneys predict a final judgment in favor of the franchisees could affect the future of all franchises within Massachusetts and, possibly, outside its borders as well. The IFA, which filed amicus briefs in favor of Coverall throughout the litigation, said in a statement, “We continue to believe that the franchise industry should not be subjected to this Massachusetts independent contractor law.” The IFA “will continue to strongly support efforts to protect franchising from unwarranted and unnecessary government intrusion. The IFA calls on the Massachusetts legislature to permanently address the employee misclassification issue, which would allow franchise businesses to flourish in the state.”

So far, the IFA’s lobbying has not swayed Judge Young, who first ruled in favor of the franchisees in 2010, or altered Massachusetts’ law, but it has spurred pro-franchising lobbying in other states. On April 2, the Georgia General Assembly passed IFA-backed legislation that codifies franchisee/franchisor relationships there as “contractual business relationships.”

Opposite sides

On the other side of the issue, last fall six states—Connecticut, Maryland, Minnesota, Missouri, Utah and Washington—joined Massachusetts in support of a memorandum of understanding between the U.S. Department of Labor and the IRS to “improve efforts to end the business practice of misclassifying employees.”

Changing the status of franchisees to employees would be a boon to cash-strapped states, which could then collect income taxes from the newly classified workers and unemployment compensation insurance payments from the franchisors, said attorney Michael Webster, the chair of the strategic committee of the International Association of Franchisees and Dealers. Webster posted an article, “Is Snap-On Tools the next Coverall?” on the IAFD website in which he notes that, like Coverall, Snap-On Tools exerts a lot of control over its franchisees, by determining which customers they can call on and what tools they must have available to sell. A Dallas Snap-On franchisee, Jim Lager, is using the website to invite fellow franchisees and those from similar franchise systems to join a newly formed Mobile Tool Dealers Association, so they can work together to gain more autonomy.

Companies with unionized work forces may also be looking at potential future actions. In Massachusetts, ” Webster said, “commercial cleaning companies that pay their workers union wages were annoyed that Coverall and other cleaning franchises kept underbidding them on jobs.”

Cabdrivers next?

But Liss-Riordan, who just launched litigation on behalf of Boston cabdrivers, said she believes the alarm is unwarranted. “Yes, we are receiving calls from other workers who feels they have been misclassified, but none from franchisees of other companies. The way cleaning companies misclassify employees as franchisees is unique. I don’t see this taking over traditional franchise systems.”

Attorney Seth Stadfeld, of Weston, Patrick, P.A. in Boston, agreed. “Traditional franchises, like maid services, hotels and donut shops, in which the franchisee deals directly with the customer, are not at risk. The sky is not falling in Massachusetts.”

What you can do to get Justice.

Near the back of your franchise disclosure document there is a section that contains a List of Former Franchisees.

Step 1 – Call everyone on this list and talk to them ad tell them your store, they will tell you their reason for leaving Franchisor, you must all ban together.

Step 2 – Then call all radio and television broadcasting stations near all you and tell them your story, one of them will want it exclusive and they will broadcast it.

Step 3 – Get a transcripts from both radio and television broadcasts, and yes get a video from television broadcast too.

Step 4 – Find a attorney that will take your case without putting any money down as he will see he can get paid when he wins your case.

To lying source, the person you are talking about first attacked another veteran who was a Star for his franchisor and the franchisor ripped him off. If you like I can give you the names and numbers of veterans that have been ripped-off by cleaning franchirors. Its really sad that these cleaning franchisors like jan-pro, coverall, stratus and janiking keep ripping of veterans. I have freinds and relatives who are veterans and what these franchisors do to rip off these veterans is really sick.

New Lawsuit against Jan-pro in Massachusetts. There is a new Lawsuit in Massachusetts against Jan-pro. Please contact me if you bought into Jan-pro in Massachusetts.

Jerry

[protected]

If you have been ripped-off by jan-pro or any other Ponzi Scheme cleaning franchise please report them to the FBI.

There is a special agent at the moment investigating another franchisor.

Agent / Victim Specialist Michelle Thorne, U.S. Department of Justice, Federal Bureau of Investigation, FBI-Jacksonville, FL. [If you'd like Ms. Thorne's full contact information, please email ADMIN at unhappyfranchisee@gmail.com]

Lying source, it looks like you are in Desperate mode to do anything and say anything to defend your employers jan-pro, janiking, coverall, stratus, and cleannet. You are predagist against imigrants but jan-pro, coverall, janiking, stratus and cleannet had no problem taking an immigrants money.

Now in your delusional mind you LIE and you say that I’m an illegal with out papers. Would you like to wager a BET! I can prove you wrong very easily but I don’t think you’re a man who would pay his bets. Your to scared to even tell me your name or how much jan-pro and the rest of the ponzi scheme franchisors pay you. You will never tell us who you are will you. You will keep hiding like a rat in a cave because you are not a man.

To lying source, When jan-pro rips-off people, when jan-pro steals from families, when jan-pro steals there hard earned money people get Mad and they take legal action. I to could turn things around and say that the legal team that is defending jan-pro defends criminals. You are so desperate to defend the cleaning franchisors that pay you money to come here and defend them that you run out of ways to defend jan-pro, coverall and janiking. If jan-pro, janiking and coverall wouldn't be ripping of people then there wouldn't be hundreds of lawsuits, it's as simple as that.

lying source here is an example of your racist and derogatory remarks and why jan-pro is such a low life and desperate company. What you just posted = " You of course being an illegal alien here on expired visa should know that without issue". If anyone is looking at buying a jan-pro cleaning job this is the kind of people that you will deal with so be Warned! If you ever encounter a problem with them or have any issues they will turn to racist and derogatory remarks.

Lying source, they are trying to take workers compensation away which wont last when they go to court, it isn’t final yet this is only more proof of a state going backwards. Lying source you sound like a complete Anarchist. I don’t know who the Seiu is but it looks like they have smacked you around in the past because you keep mentioning them all the time.

Finally lying source or churn will you ever tell us who you are or will you completely keep hiding like a Rat in a cave? You know who I’am. You know my name, my phone number. But you somehow are scared to tell us who you really are. Are you a Man or a mouse?

Tell us who you are or this will mean that you are simply a little chicken mouse.

If you have been ripped-off by Jan-pro or any other cleaning franchise don’t let them get away with it. You can do the following things.

1. Report them to the Federal Trade commission www.Ftc.gov

2. Report them to your States Attorney General. Gather a group of people and pay your Attorney General a visit and file a criminal complaint.

3. Gather a group of other people who have also been ripped-off by jan-pro and take legal action.

4. Picket jan-pros offices and warn other people not to invest there money with them.

5. You can call me or contact me and I can give you more information and a copy of the National Class Action Lawsuit that we have against jan-pro

Jerry
[protected]
Grvz5247@cs.com

Another Lawsuit against another Ponzi Scheme cleaning franchise.

Here is the link to the whole article article

http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/01/16/43057.htm

Court House News Service Monday, January 16, 2012

Latinos Say Janitorial Franchisor Ran a Scam
By MATT REYNOLDS

SANTA ANA, Calif. (CN) - More than 50 people say so-called janitorial franchisor Stratus Building Solutions of Orange defrauded them in a cold-blooded "corporate scam" aimed at Spanish speakers.
The 51 Latino plaintiffs say GoldeneyeHoldings dba Stratus Building Solutions of Orange ran a "simple" scam that targeted "victims who don't speak English by taking out ads in Spanish speaking publications."
"The advertisements seek to attract Latino immigrants with promises of financial freedom if they purchase janitorial franchises from defendant Stratus. The advertisements encourage prospective franchisees to immediately call or visit 'Fernando, ' one of its sales representatives, " according to the Superior Court complaint.
The complaint does not state how much each plaintiff had to pay to buy a so-called franchise. But they say Stratus made them promises it did not deliver.
"(T)he plaintiff's attempts to achieve the 'America Dream' was thwarted by the new American reality - the corporate scam, " the complaint states.
Lead plaintiff Alfred Mendoza, and 50 more, say that regardless of they responded to the ads by calling or showing up in person, "Fernando" discussed the terms and conditions of the franchise agreements in Spanish.
The complaint states: "During his 'pitch, ' 'Fernando' informs those that are interested in purchasing a Stratus franchise that Stratus sells sixteen (16) different franchises, franchises that will earn the prospective franchisee between $6, 000 a year to $204, 000 a year. During this presentation, plaintiffs are enticed to purchase the franchises because Stratus guarantees a certain monthly income based upon the size of their franchise. Moreover, Stratus promises the prospective franchisees that their cleaning locations would be geographically located in close proximity to their residence and that they would be guaranteed to make a higher hourly rate because their contracts were extremely lucrative.
"Once the prospective franchisee agrees to purchase a franchise, 'Fernando' immediately pulls out a franchise agreement in English and immediately insists that the prospective franchisee sign the agreement in order to reserve a franchise since it contends that its franchising opportunities are about to be sold out.
"Once the prospective franchisee signs the agreement and pays the franchise fee, he is informed by 'Fernando' that Stratus will be calling the franchisee shortly to inform them of the location of their new franchise. Despite these promises, none of the prospective franchisees are ever given the franchise they purchased nor are they ever provided with a refund from Stratus for its inability to provide the franchise it promised.
"In the present case, each of the plaintiffs purchased a franchise from Stratus and none of them ever received the franchise they were promised by "Fernando", while acting as an agent for Stratus.
The complaint does not name any individual defendants, nor does it list an address for Stratus or Goldeneye.
The plaintiffs seek damages for fraud, breach of contract and violations of the California Business & Professions Code.
They are represented by Eric Aguilera with Bohm, Matsen, Kegel & Aguilera of Costa Mesa.
Neither the law firm nor Stratus responded to requests for comment.

To lying source or also known as Churned

Will you ever tell us your real name and your reason for attacking all the people who bought a fake cleaning franchise? How much are the Fake cleaning franchisors jan-pro, coverall, cleannet, stratus and janiking paying you to do Damage control?

Tell me your real name Churn / lying source or keep hiding like a Rat in a Cave.

To lying source or should I say churn

I see that you are still giding like a Rat in a cave. Seriusly why are you so scared to say who you are?

Here is another article.

Cleaning company took franchise fees illegally, SJC rules
September 01, 2011 By Katie Johnston, Globe Staff

The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court ruled yesterday that Coverall North America Inc. illegally collected franchise fees from a worker, clearing the way for hundreds of workers involved in a class-action lawsuit against the cleaning company to be awarded millions of dollars in damages.

The ruling could have a significant impact on similar cases pending against five other cleaning companies in the state.

The decision follows a US District Court of Massachusetts ruling in March of 2010 that found that Coverall had misclassified the workers, the majority of them immigrants, charging them thousands of dollars apiece in franchise fees to establish their own cleaning companies, but treating them like regular employees.

“It’s a perverse system in which the workers are paying to do the work, ’’ said lawyer Shannon Liss-Riordan, who is representing the Coverall workers and hundreds of others suing Jani-King International Inc., Jan-Pro Franchising International Inc., System4 Commercial Cleaning, CleanNet USA, and Westborough-based All Pro Cleaning Systems. She is also involved in cases against cleaning companies in California and Pennsylvania.

The SJC ruling could lead those cleaning companies, which use the same franchising model Coverall does, to settle their cases, leave the state, or change the way they operate, Liss-Riordan said.

“The commercial cleaning industry has been plagued by companies such as Coverall that make their money by profiting off of their own workers, ’’ Liss-Riordan said. “The ruling will have huge ramifications on the commercial cleaning industry, as well as the trucking industry, adult entertainment industry, and other industries that exploit their workers by misclassifying them as independent contractors.’’

Coverall officials could not be reach for comment.

The SJC’s ruling also entitles the former Coverall workers to recover worker’s compensation and other insurance fees that the company illegally deducted from their paychecks. In all, Coverall workers could be awarded tens of thousands of dollars each.

Diego Low, a coordinator at the Framingham-based Metrowest Worker Center who first introduced Liss-Riordan to a group of Coverall workers in 2004, said he is pleased that the immigrants with whom he works will get their money back.

“It was a situation that was clearly predicated on vulnerable people who because of language and because of status would be easy to rip off, ’’ Low said. “There are hundreds of people out there in this state who lost three or four years of savings to these schemes.’’

Here is the link to the full article up above

http://www.bluemaumau.org/11385/coverall_pay_triple_damages

Coverall Looses, Coverall to Pay Triple Damages!

A good article just came out on Bluemaumau.org you can read the full article by going to the following link.

Coverall to Pay Triple Damages Posted Sat, 2012/03/17 - 21:53 by Janet Sparks

BOSTON – A federal judge ruled last Thursday that Coverall North America must pay triple damages to hundreds of workers classified as franchisees instead of employees, dating back from 2006. Previously, he had ruled that the court would triple damages from 2010. That changes the calculation of damages dramatically, adding the four year period.

In addition to the award on damages, the global janitorial cleaning franchisor will have to pay all the initial franchise fees and additional business fees, as well as recovering insurance deductions. The judge said those fees were unlawful and can be recovered as provided by the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court.

Attorney Shannon Liss-Riordan of Lichten & Liss-Riordan, representing the class plaintiffs, said they were excited about the order. “We are very pleased that the workers who did not have arbitration agreements will be getting a judgment, and can finally see a conclusion to their case, ” she declared.

Liss-Riordan said the parties were given 30 days to submit what final calculations are based on from this order. She added, “We are now looking forward to the judge’s further rulings on the workers who had arbitration agreements. That will be the next step.”

The case, Awuah v Coverall North America Inc., has been closely watched by the franchise community since it began in 2007. The original complaint filed by eight purported franchisees alleges that they were misclassified as independent contractors instead of the reality of being employees. They accused Coverall of not providing the promised volume of cleaning contracts to them after they paid $6, 000 to $30, 000.

To Lying Source,

Like always you Lie and you are still afraid to tell us who you are. Why wont lying source tell us who he is? Why are you so AFRAID to tell us who you are ?

Another Post that I saw by Attorney Richard Solomon

" There is a janitorial franchise joke in America. The janitorial franchisee is known as a Janitor In A Drum. Janitor In A Drum is a cleaning solution product that comes in a can shaped like a 55 gallon drum. The joke is that when you buy a janitorial franchise you become - in the financial sense of it - a janitor in a drum.

There are other janitor in a drum jokes but they wouldn't pass muster on BMM."

The following is what Attorney Richard Solomon recently posted on another website.

" Jan Pro is an excellent example of a bozo franchise that I have vetted for over a dozen investors. Not one of my clients bought one of these fanchises.

The story of janitorial franchising is that they are sold with a promise of a guaranteed initial inventory of building maintenance contracts so that you start out "making money". Most of the time these deals either don't produce even enough start up revenue to enable you to do the work and also go out and scout up your own additional building maintenance accounts, or if they are good accounts they are soon taken from you and given to another new franchisee.

It is easy to take a building account from a janitorial franchisee. The rep goes to see the account and tells them that they have conducted a follow up inspection of the work you have been doing and have found it to be less than proper. They will happpily replace you with a better operator to assure their total satisfaction with the service. The building manager signs off on your being fired and you are toast in that account and in any other account of that building management organization. These franchiors typically lack sufficient actual on hand accounts to provide a start up customer base for new franchisees signed on. So they just go take buildings away from recently signed franchisees and give them to the newbies.

Even in the best of situations the ability to go get a building janitorial account on your own is nothing like you are told in training or on "discovery day".

You always end up doing toilets yourself because you lack funds to hire help. Often your wife and kids are doing toilets with you to try to get it going.

This is a perfect segment of franchising where competent pre investment vetting by someone who knows the industry can save you from financial ruin."

To lying source,

Lets see what you say when many more Class Action Lawsuits and individual lawsuits are filled in many more states. They will keep getting filled until jan-pro and the rest of the other franchisors stoped ripping off people. People in over 30 states have contacted me and many people and groups are organising. Here we come and we are growing in numbers looking for Justice. We will get JUSTICE!

If anyone reading this has been ripped-off by jan-pro or any other Ponzi Scheme cleaning franchisor do the following.

1. Report jan-pro to the Federal Trade commission. www.Ftc.Gov
2. Report them to your states Attorney general.
3. Talk to everyone and organise and find a lawfirm and take legal action or join a class action already in progress.
4. Picket jan-pro and try and get media attention.
5. You can contact me Jerry at [protected]. I can give you more information on our class action.

Judge certifies class of cleaning workers misclassified as 'franchisees'

The National Law Journal

By Sheri Qualters February 13, 2012

A Boston federal judge has certified as a class a broad swath of
purported franchisees of cleaning company Coverall North America
Inc. who are suing the company for misclassifying them as
independent contractors instead of employees.
In a Feb. 10 order in Awuah v. Coverall North America Inc., Judge
William Young of the District of Massachusetts defined the class as
individuals who owned a Coverall franchise and performed work for Coverall customers
in Massachusetts at any time since Feb. 15, 2004, who didn't sign an arbitration
agreement or have their claims previously adjudicated.
Young's recent ruling expanded the class he certified on Sept. 22, 2011, to include
some people who obtained a franchise through transfer. The class includes individuals
who became franchise owners through a consent-to-transfer agreement but did not
receive a copy of Coverall's franchise offering circular, which outlined terms of the
janitorial franchise agreements, including mandatory arbitration.
Eight named plaintiffs claimed in their February 2007 complaint that the company
misclassified franchisees as independent contractors. They also alleged Coverall did
not provide the promised volume of cleaning work to franchisees who paid $6, 000 to
$30, 000. And they claimed Coverall targeted immigrants who do not speak English as a
first language or fully understand the company's legal documents.
Since they are employees, the plaintiffs contend that the company is liable for minimum
wage, overtime and wage law violations. The legal claims include breach of contract,
misrepresentation, deceptive and unfair business practices and unjust enrichment.

In March 2010, Young granted the plaintiffs' motion for partial summary judgment on the
misclassification claim. In that ruling, he found that Coverall did not meet the second
prong of the state's three-part test that defines independent contractors, which requires
workers to provide services that are "independent, separate and distinct" from the
employers' business.
The other two parts of the test require independent contractors to be "free from control
and direction in connection with the performance of the service" and customarily
engaged in the same trade, profession or occupation that they're doing contractually.
In his Feb. 10 ruling, Young expanded the class to include people who didn't sign an
arbitration agreement and get notice of the arbitration agreement, so "it's a pretty
straightforward commonsense ruling, " said one of the plaintiffs' lawyers on the case,
Shannon Liss-Riordan of Boston's Lichten & Liss-Riordan. "People can't be bound by an
arbitration agreement that they didn't get notice of or a copy of."
Liss-Riordan said the plaintiffs are looking forward to Young's pending ruling on the
"illusoriness" or validity of Coverall's arbitration agreement. "We have challenged the
arbitration agreement as a whole, " Liss-Riordan said.
She also said the case "raises very interesting questions about whether companies
really want to compel hundreds of individuals to go to arbitration or [whether they] are
they hoping they can deter people."
"This case is showing these issues are not going to go away, " Liss-Riordan said." It's
going to be even more expensive and complicated [for companies]."
The plaintiffs have filed a motion for summary judgment on damages, which is slated for
hearing on Feb. 14, based on Young's March 2010 ruling. They're seeking several types
of damages, including: $916, 844.65 for initial franchise fees and additional business
fees; $894, 433.78 for insurance deductions: $106, 535.77 for funds collected to offset
unpaid customer bills; and $122, 932.25 for interest on late payments.
The plaintiffs are also asking for triple damages based on a 2008 amendment to the
Massachusetts law concerning unpaid wages that allowed for the increase in damages.
Aside from that change, the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts ruled in 2005
in Wiedmann v. The Bradford Group that courts can treble damages for unpaid wages
when there is a showing of "outrageous[ness], because of a defendant's evil motive
or…reckless indifference" to workers' rights."
"He'll either assess the damages based on the papers or will have a trial in March to
determine those damages for the class members, " Liss-Riordan said.
Liss-Riordan said those amounts don't include fees paid by class members before
February 2004 and after June 2010, or fees paid by the class members added by

Young's Feb. 10 ruling. Neither fee category has been calculated, she said.
Lawyers at DLA Piper who represent Coverall were not available to discuss the case.
Coverall did not respond to a request for comment.

If you have been riped-off by jan-pro or any other cleaning franchisor There is several things that you can do.

1. Report them to your State Attorney General.

2. File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission www.ftc.gov

3. Get together with other cleaners. All of them have been ripped-off and you should get together and look for an attorney and take legal action.

4. You can call me for more information. My name is Jerry and I'm a plaintif.
[protected]

To Lying source,

Your still being a chicken and not telling us who you are ? Still hiding in your cave like a Rat ! I guees you will never tell us your name because you are so scared. Why are you scared to give us your NAME ?

Jan-crap is constantly Lying.
Jan-crap says that they have thousands of cleaners which are all missclasified employees. This has been proven in the Rhina Alvarenga Lawsuit using the 3 prong test.

One of Jan-craps Biggest Lies is that jan-crap claims to have thousands of cleaners which is a Big Lue. Thousands are no longer with them but they add them to there fake numbers. Jan-crap claimed to have cleaning operations in all 50 states. This was another ine of there many thousands of lies. Jan-crap doesn't have cleaners in all 50 states. Lie, Lie, Lie!

Many of the cleaners that they say they have only have one account left because jan-crap has already stolen all of there accounts. Last but not least many cleaners haven't worked for jan-crap in years but jan-crap puts them on there cleaners list. Many left years ago but jan-crap adds them as still being with them. Inflated numbers just like Wallstreet, Rats hidding in a cave or like Judge Young stated:
Describing franchising as a business in itself, as Coverall seeks to do, sounds vaguely like a description for a
modified Ponzi scheme – a company that does not earn money from the sale of goods and services, but from taking
in more money from unwitting franchisees to make payments to previous franchisees.

To Lying source,

Why wont you tell us your name? What are you hiding ? Why do you HIDE like a Rat in a CAVE ? Will you tell us your name or will you keep hiding like a mouse?

Here is a list of more lawsuits against these rip-off Scams or like a Judge recently called them Modified Ponzi schemes!

Ismarv Diaz v. Coverall North America. Inc.. (Circuit Court for Hillsborough County Florida, General Civil Division, Case No. 97 06827), filed October 1, 1997. Plaintiff, a former Coverall franchisee, claimed that Coverall did not timely provide him with business accounts after relocating his franchise from Milwaukee, Wisconsin to the Tampa, Florida area; that we attempted to terminate his franchise without cause; and that we misled him by failing to reveal facts regarding the franchise. He asked that we pay him unspecified compensatory, punitive and treble damages. We denied any and all wrongdoing and stated that plaintiffs franchise had been terminated for cause. On May 3, 1999, this case was settled without any admission of wrongdoing by us. Accordingly, we paid plaintiff $7, 000, and he released all claims against Coverall, and dismissed this lawsuit with prejudice.

Karen and Steven St. Clair, et al. v. Coverall North America. Inc.. d.b.a. Coverall of San Diego. Inc.. (Superior Court of California, County of San Diego, Case No. 720129), filed April 27, 1998. Plaintiffs, Coverall janitorial franchisees, claimed that Coverall unjustifiably terminated certain of their cleaning accounts and failed to replace them, and that Coverall failed to provide certain additional business accounts purchased by them. This conduct, they claimed, was a breach of the Franchise Agreement; breach of the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing; breach of fiduciary duty; intentional interference with economic relations; and unfair business practices. Coverall denied all allegations of wrong doing. On March 3, 1999, a settlement was reached by which Coverall paid plaintiffs $7, 500 in exchange for the dismissal of this lawsuit, "with prejudice, " and plaintiffs'' Coverall Janitorial Franchise Agreement was mutually terminated.

Richard and Jeanie Ko v. Coverall North America. Inc.. et al.. (Superior Court of California, County of Orange, Case No. 795516), filed June 12, 1998. Plaintiffs, Richard Ko, a former Coverall franchisee, and his wife, claimed that because an account, which they were servicing, was terminated by the customer, Coverall was in breach of the Franchise Agreement. The plaintiffs also claimed this action by Coverall constituted fraud and deceit and breach of the covenant of good faith and fair dealing. Their complaint, also named as co-defendants Alex Roudi, former Chief Executive Officer of Coverall; Bill Burch, former Coverall Vice President and Divisional Director; and former Coverall Regional Director,

Jason Rasmussen. Plaintiffs asked for "an order of restitution in the amount of $157, 000, " plus an order of rescission of their Franchise Agreement, plus unspecified compensatory and punitive damages and attorney''s fees. We denied all liability and filed a crossclaim against plaintiff for the balance of the amounts still owing by them to us. On August 6, 1998, the parties entered into a settlement agreement by which we, without any admission of wrongdoing, paid plaintiffs $62, 000, and the parties dismissed their claims against each other, with prejudice.

Coverall North America. Inc. v. Warion. Inc. and Murray Arthur: and Coverall North America. Inc. v. Warion. Inc.. Murray Arthur andMichael Warden. (Before the American Arbitration Association, Chicago, Illinois, Case No. 51T1140001397) (consolidated); filed January 10, 1997. Coverall filed this arbitration proceeding against defendants, Warjon, Inc. ("Warjon"), our Coverall Service Franchisee, and Murray Arthur and Michael Warden, Warjon''s principal shareholders seeking a declaration that we did not, as respondents had accused, violate federal and state disclosure laws and guidelines by misstating and/or fraudulently failing to state facts regarding an alleged predecessor company of ours; an alleged affiliate company of ours; an alleged act or acts by us jeopardizing the Coverall service mark; and an alleged failure by us to disclose certain litigation regarding Coverall''s mark. Respondents denied that they were entitled to the relief sought, and filed counterclaims against us claiming we breached their Service Franchise Agreement, the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing, and California, Florida, and North Carolina law, and that we committed fraud, misrepresentation and a breach of fiduciary duty. Respondents sought rescission of their Service Franchise Agreements, repayment of all money paid by them to Coverall, and unspecified damages. We denied the allegations in the counterclaim. On August 24, 1998, the parties entered into a settlement agreement by which Coverall, without any admission of wrongdoing, paid respondents $200, 000 as a partial reimbursement of their attorneys'' fees, and the claimant and the respondents dismissed their claims, with prejudice.

Ted Freeman v. Coverall North America d.b.a. Coverall of Los Angeles. Inc.. (Superior Court for Orange County, California, Case No. 787765), filed December 8, 1997. Plaintiff, a Coverall franchisee, claimed we breached his Franchise Agreement by failing to provide him with business accounts in a timely manner, and that we fraudulently misrepresented that we had an adequate number of accounts to timely provide him with the volume of business agreed to in his Franchise Agreement. Plaintiff asked for $40, 200 in compensatory damages, plus punitive damages in an unspecified amount, plus attorney fees. We denied breaching the Franchise Agreement or that we otherwise acted wrongfully, and filed a cross claim against the plaintiff for the principal balance of a promissory note from plaintiff to Coverall, then in default. On April 9, 1998, a settlement agreement was entered into between the parties by which Coverall paid plaintiff, and both parties dismissed their claims, with prejudice.

Coverall North America. Inc. v. Thelen Commercial Cleaning Corp. and William E. Thelen. (American Arbitration Association, Seattle, Washington, Case No. 75 Y [protected]), filed January 10, 1997. We initiated this declaratory judgment action. Respondents filed counterclaims alleging breach of the Service Franchise Agreement, the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing, and violations of Washington law, and misrepresentation seeking either damages or rescission. On February 10, 1998, the arbitrators ruled. It was declared that while our disclosure regarding a predecessor company failed to satisfy technical disclosure requirements it was not a violation of the Washington Franchise Investment Protection Act, and did not damage the Respondent. The arbitrators ruled in our favor on the Respondents'' Washington Consumer Protection Act and misrepresentation claims. They further found that loans made by then CEO, Alex Roudi, to his brother constituted breach of contract and should have been disclosed; but ruled that rescission or termination of the Service Franchise Agreement was not warranted. The arbitrators further ruled that our failure to disclose certain matters justified Respondents'' suspension of franchise sales, and assessed damages against us in the amount of $280, 000. We were also enjoined from providing information, assistance, guarantees, financial support, loans, or referrals of business, customers or accounts to the company owned by Alex Roudi''s brother, or its officers, directors, shareholders, or affiliated companies. We were also ordered to pay Respondents'' reasonable attorneys'' fees in the amount of $150, 000, plus a portion of costs.

Coverall North America. Inc. v. Kevin Foster, et al.. (District Court for Harris County, Texas, 295th Judicial District, Case No. 96-45847), filed September 10, 1996. We filed this action against defendant Kevin Foster, a Coverall janitorial franchisee, and others, based on breach of contract, fraud, and civil conspiracy, claiming that although defendant Foster agreed in his Coverall Janitorial Franchise Agreement not to engage in the janitorial business during the term of his franchise (other than as a Coverall franchisee), he, with the aid and assistance of defendant Gwendolyn Hodge, operated a non-Coverall janitorial business concurrently with his Coverall business. We asked that the defendants be enjoined from so competing and using our confidential and proprietary information in their non-Coverall business and that they account for profits earned as a result of so competing; and that we be awarded damages and attorneys'' fees. Defendant Foster filed a counterclaim against us, alleging we did not furnish him the amount of business called for in his Franchise Agreement, and also claimed that we failed to comply with unspecified "statutory required disclosures" when we sold him his Franchise, and that the sale was in violation of the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices Act. On April 23, 1998, the parties entered into a settlement by which Coverall without any admission of wrongdoing, paid defendant $100, 000.

To Lying source,

I see that you still wont tell us your NAME? Why are you so SCARED to tell us your NAME? It looks like you are still a COWARD for not telling us your NAME.

This is a long list of the so many Lawsuits and settlements against cleaning franchisors ! It's only a partial list. I will post more later.

Jesus H, Castro and Herschand Co. v. The Kover Group. Inc. dba Coverall of South Florida. Mauro R. Guerra. individually, and Management Risk Group.iFinancial Corp.. (Circuit Court of the 11th Judicial Circuit in and for Dade County, Florida, Case No. 97-8090-CA21), filed April 11, 1997. Plaintiffs allege breach of contract, rescission of contract and fraudulent misrepresentation. They claim they purchased a franchise and were not provided the appropriate amount of business. The plaintiffs claim damages in excess of $100, 000. We have denied all allegations of wrongdoing. The plaintiffs filed an Amended Complaint in November 1997. The case was settled on August 24, 2007, and Coverall agreed to pay the Plaintiffs $20, 000.

Yared Bevene. et al v. Coverall of [sic] North America. Inc, , , Pacific Commercial Services. LLC. Coverall Cleaning Concepts and Coverall of Nashville. Inc. (Davidson County, Tennessee, Case No. 06-1202), filed May 12, 2006. There were five named plaintiffs who purported to be franchisees of Coverall or Coverall''s Service Franchisee, Pacific Commercial Services, LLC ("PCS")- The plaintiffs alleged violations of the Tennessee Consumer Protection Act, fraud in the inducement, and negligent misrepresentation. The case was removed to the United States District Court for the Middle District of Tennessee on June 22, 2006 and assigned Case No. 3:06-0628. Plaintiffs filed an Amended Complaint on October 17, 2006 adding two additional plaintiffs. Mediation was held on September 13, 2007, and the case was settled. Coverall paid the seven Plaintiffs, five putative plaintiffs, and their attorney $37, 500.

Jubilee General Contracting LTD. et al v. Coverall North America, Inc.. et al. (State of Michigan, County of Oakland), Case No. [protected]-C2, filed February 20, 2007. Plaintiffs claim that they were fraudulently induced to accept two cleaning contracts; because they were shown documents by Defendant JLAG Janitorial Service, LLC that contained erroneous data about expenses related to the two accounts. On September 6, 2007, Coverall paid the plaintiffs the sum of $14, 200.00; and plaintiffs waived their right to appeal, and the case was dismissed with prejudice on July 25, 2007.

Isam Yonis v. Coverall North America. Inc., (Circuit Court of Williamson County, Tennessee, Case No. 04695), filed November 9, 2004. Plaintiff filed a one count Complaint alleging unspecified violations of the Tennessee Consumer Protection Act. We filed a Motion for More Definite Statement, which was never answered. The case was settled on January 8, 2007 for $12, 500. The case was dismissed with prejudice on January 26, 2007.

Bradley Carter v. Coverall North America. Inc. (Broward County, Florida, Circuit Court of the Seventeenth Judicial Circuit, Case No. Case No. [protected]), filed on August 2, 2006. Coverall moved to dismiss the Complaint in its entirety. In lieu of a response, Carter filed a First Amended Complaint (the "Amended Complaint") on October 9, 2006. The Amended Complaint alleged breach of contract and violation of �559 of the Florida Statutes pertaining to business opportunities. Coverall moved to dismiss the complaint based upon failure to engage in mediation, statute of limitations grounds and the inapplicability of �559 of the Florida Statutes to franchises. The parties mediated the dispute on December 19, 2006 and Coverall paid the Plaintiff $20, 000. The case was dismissed with prejudice on December 26, 2006.

Machado. et al v. Coverall North America. Inc. (U.S. District Court, District of Massachusetts, Case No. 05 CA 11884 RGS), filed September 16, 2005. Plaintiffs, eleven current and former franchisees, filed this purported class action variously claiming that they were misclassified as independent contractors and that they were or are employees of Coverall; breach of their Janitorial Franchise Agreements; misrepresentations regarding the time necessary to clean customer accounts and the location of customer accounts; underbidding of customer contracts; and unfairly targeting franchise candidates with limited English language skills. Coverall filed arbitration demands against ten of the Plaintiffs. The case was settled and Coverall paid $300, 000. The case was dismissed with prejudice on December 19, 2006; as were all pending claims filed by Coverall against the Plaintiffs.

"Vazquez, et al v. Security Insurance Company of Hartford, (District Court, 166th Judicial District, Bexar County, Texas, Case No. 2004-C1-17880), filed on December 3, 2004. Coverall was one of seven defendants. Plaintiffs, former franchisees of ASK Services, Inc., a former Service Franchisee of ours, claimed that we violated the Texas Deceptive Trade Practices-Consumer Protection Act by instigating a scheme to "profit from premiums paid by Plaintiffs" to participate in a workers'' compensation program. None of the named Plaintiffs ever paid anything to us. The case was settled and the case was dismissed with prejudice on January 24, 2006. Coverall contributed $13, 000 to the settlement.

Jamil Abuajina v. Advantage Cleaning Corporations, Coverall North America. Inc.. (Jefferson County, Colorado, District Court, Case. No. 03CV1181), filed April 18, 2003. Jamil Abuajina, a Coverall franchisee, variously claimed that Coverall breached the Janitorial Franchise Agreement by failing to provide him with sufficient accounts to service and by providing him with troubled accounts. Abuajina also alleged violations of the Colorado Consumer Protection Act claiming that Coverall made false representations to him about the accounts it would provide to him. The case was settled and Coverall paid $30, 000. The case was dismissed with prejudice on November 22, 2005.

Rhina Alvarenga v. Coverall of North America d/b/a Coverall Cleaning Concepts and Coverall of Boston. Sunrise Senior Living. Inc. d/b/a Sunrise of Arlington, et al (Superior Court, Middlesex County, Commonwealth of Massachusetts, Case No. MICV2005-01782-A), filed on May 2, 2005 and Amended on August 8, 2005. Plaintiff, a former Coverall franchisee, filed this eleven count complaint against Coverall and one of its customers, Sunrise Senior Living, Inc. ("Sunrise"), variously alleging common law fraudulent inducement, and claimed damages in the amount of $19, 654.11; violation of the Massachusetts General Laws 93A; the right to rescission; breach of contract; breach of fiduciary duty; breach of the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing; violation of the Massachusetts Minimum

Fair Wage Act; violation of timely payment of wages statute; overtime violations under the Massachusetts Minimum Fair Wages Act; and unjust enrichment. The case was settled and Coverall paid.

To Lying source, the lawsuits are going well and more are getting filled. Lawsuits against jan-pro have been won! Many have been settled out of court and others have gotten all of there money back.

If you have been ripped-off by jan-pro there is a few things that you can do.

1. File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission www.ftc.gob
2. File a report with your states attorney General and also the US attorney general.

3. Talk to everyone that works for jan-pro they have all been ripped-off then look for an attorney and take legal action.
3. Feel free to call me I can give you more information Jerry [protected]

To lying source, Coward you still wont tell us your name ? Why wont you tell us your real name? Why do you hide ?

To lying source, The lawsuit against stratus has been filled. The only Coward is you because you wont say your real name or tell us who you are. You know my name will you tell us yours or will you keep being a COWARD!

February 1, 2012
Attorney Jonathan Fortman filed suit in Missouri yesterday seeking certification of a nationwide class of all Stratus Building Solutions unit franchisees.

According to Fortman, “We are simply asking the court to declare that under Missouri law, the Stratus Master Franchisees are captive agents of Stratus (based on Stratus’ level of control) and not independent contractors.”
Fortman says “We are also asking the court to declare that Stratus Building Solutions and its franchising company have conspired to defraud both the master and the unit franchisees into purchasing into a system they knew, based on their experience in St. Louis, could not be sustained.”

The Stratus Master Franchise Agreements require that the agreement be interpreted under Missouri law. If the Missouri judge rules in Fortman’s favor, he will be well-positioned to file group action lawsuits throughout the country on behalf of Stratus Building Solutions franchise owners.

To Lying source, the only little crying girl is you because you are to afraid to say who you are or your real name. The complaints on unhappyfranchisee.com are still up. Yes all 600 Post are still up and gues what more complaints keep getting posted. jan-crap I mean jan-pro Threatened people including veterans in the Millitary, families, immigrants and single Mom's. If you look at the video when jan-crap was exposed on Television for Ripping of so many people they had Ladies who had there faces covered because jan-pro had threatened them. For your information the lawsuits continue and there going very well. Oh and also please post your complaints on www.unhappyfranchisee.com you can add to the 600+ complaints on there.

If you have been ripped-off by jan-pro one thing that you should do immediatelly is file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission www.Ftc.gov They gave the authority to shut down jan-pro, raid there offices, and arrest them with police enforcement and the FBI. Please file a complaint.

If you have been ripped-off by jan-pro feel free to call me My name is Jerry and you can call me at [protected].

To Lying source, Your still avoiding the QUESTION? What is your real name? Why dont you tell us your real name? Why do you hide like a RAT in a Cave ? Be a Man and say who you are. What is your name and why are you so afraid to say who you are ?

The Lawsuits are going well. Don't let this Rat from corporate intimidate you. If you have been Ripped-off by a cleaning Ponzi Scheme like a Judge recently compared them to you can take action to get Justice.

The following are things that you can do.

1. File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. They are a Goverment agency with the Power to take action. They can and will go into a building with armed police officers and agents and take action. You should file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission. WWW.FTC.GOV They will take action once they get enough complaints . Your complaint with them is confidential. WWW.FTC.GOV

2. File a complaint with the Attorney General let them know that these companies are in violation of the Rico and Raqueterring Acts. WWW.Justice.Gov

3. Let your local News Stations and newspapers know what is going on with these cleaning companies and how they are a "Ponzi Scheme" Thats what a Judge recently said.

4. Organise with other cleaners who have been ripped-off. When you go to pick up your paycheck talk to everyone.

5. Look for an attorney or Lawfirm. There is many pursuing lawsuits at this moment.

6. Picket and warn other people of this Scam!

6. If you call me I can give you a copy of the lawsuit and more information. Jerry [protected] I also plan to picket jan-pro offices. Call me so that we can picket there offices I will also send you more information about the Lawsuit and give you a copy.
Call me Jerry [protected]

To Lying source I see that you are still SCARED to give us your Name. Why are you so SCARED ? Lying source why do you hide ? Why don't you say who you are ? Why do you hide like a Rat in a Cave ? Will you be a man and tell us your name or will you keep hiding like a COWARD ? You know my name, you have my number and my adress. However you won't say who you are. All you do is hide like a Rat in a Cave with a fake name.

To anyone who has been ripped-off by jan-pro or any other cleaning franchise don't let these criminals get away with this crime. Don't let them intimidate you. You can do the following.

1. File a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission www.Ftc.gov

2. File a complaint with the Attorney General www.Justice.gov
I think that they will be interested when you tell them that they are in violation of the Rico Raqueteering Laws

3. File a complaint with www.Fraud.org

3. Talk to everyone, talk to other cleaners, organise and look for an attormey.

Feel free to call me. I'm a lead plaintif in a National Class Action Lawsuit against jan-pro. I can give you a copy of the lawsuit and more information. We also plan to picket infront of jan-pros offices.

Jerry
[protected]

To Lying source, your post are just so desperatelly funny, jajajajaja.

I noticed that you keep avoiding the simple question? What is your name ?

What is your name ? Awnser the question?

Who do you work for ?

Answer fully, fairly, candidly. Answer what is your name ? What is your purpose? Who are you? Who do you work for ? Quit hiding like a little mouse.

Answer the question with facts, and not with arguments that simply make you run and hide.

Don't evade my QUESTIONS, Don't give me the run around. Answer the questions or we will all know that you are hidding the TRUTH!

WHAT IS YOUR NAME?

To lying source, your comments sound very desperate. I can tell that you are freeking out. I can tell by your comments that you are very very scared.

You know you have always been so SCARED to reveal your name? Why wont you tell us your name? Why are you so scared to tell me your name ?

What is your name? Will you keep being scared and not tell us? Are you scared?

What is your name? and if you don't tell us it simply means that you are scared.
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Coverall Stops selling there fake franchises !

Coverall is " Treading on eggshells "

They have been Stopped!

6 Judges of the High Court have Ruled and required coverall to pay back all the franchise fees, royalties and insurance premiums they had collected from their misclassified employees.

They are now treating there cleaners like employees and paying for there insurance.

Read the following and newest article on how Coverall has been stopped!

http://www.franchisetimes.com/content/story_result.php?article=02283

Why wont lying source and the voice of lyes come forward and tell us who they really are? Why so scared to tell us your name? Why are they HIDING? A real Man comes forward when he has nothing to hide.

Here is the right link to the Coverall decision and a few other articles that came out that day on that decision.

http://www.bluemaumau.org/10644/franchisor_hit_hard_pretending_employees_are_franchisees

http://www.bizjournals.com/boston/news/2011/08/31/sjc-employers-not-workers-must-pay.html

http://articles.boston.com/2011-09-01/business/30102317_1_coverall-north-america-franchise-fees-commercial-cleaning-industry

To lying source

Now you just very Desperate. You don't even know what to say now. The fact is the Supreme court found that coverall Broke the Law and they are liable.
1.First of all it doesn't mater if it takes 4 years or 10 years to get Justicethe important thing is to get Justice. W dodnt see George Washington give up just because it took some time to fight a WAR! So your number 1 question was just DESPERATION.
2.Damages will be awarded that is a FACT!
3. Your number 3 comment is just so ridiculous. It's really funny how you just make this stuff up. Damages will be paid. Read what the Supreme court said. Oh yea I think its TREBLE Damages plus interest! That means 3 times Damages.
4. You are really loosing your mind now! Did you just call these Judges Corrupt ? I don't think that these Judges will like reading that you and the cleaning franchisors that you are representing are calling them Corrupt! Also other states will look at what happened in Massachusetts. In another state they already found a jan-pro cleaner to be an employee and not a franchisee.
5. You can't just claim bankcruptcy and hide in a cave like a rat. A Judge will make you pay one way or another. If they try and hide assets and a Judge finds out then it's PRISON time. I'm sure that a Judge will like to read this post on how you and the franchisors that you represent intend to try and trick the Justice system.

You sound so Desperate and you just don't even know what to say. Hey In source will you ever reveal your true name ? Go ahead go back in your cave and hide like a rat.

Coverall LOST ! HIT HARD BY THE SUPREME COURT !

Cleaners WIN !

AWUAH WINS !

Jan-pro is NEXT !

Here is the link to the article
http://www.bluemaumau.org/10644/franchisor_hit_hard_pretending_employees_are_franchisees

BOSTON – Today the Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court smacked Coverall janitorial franchise system with a huge bill for labeling its employees as franchisees.

The high court ruled that the franchisor must pay back franchise related fees, including franchise fees, promissory note payments, additional business fees, and payments for insurance.

Experts think the ruling that franchisees can be disguised employees will ripple down to other franchise systems and other states.

Coverall argued that the franchisee should only be allowed to collect fees directly related to the misclassification. Because the additional fees Pius Awuah sought were the result of his contract agreement with the franchisor, Coverall asserted that they should not apply to the damages he sought.

Coverall SJC Decision
U.S. District Court Judge William G. Young ruled (pdf) that the misclassified employees could collect wages, insurance premiums and other employment benefits, but the attorneys for the franchisees weren't satisfied. Shannon Liss-Riordan of Lichten & Liss-Riordon stated that her clients should also be paid all fees. She said, "By requiring companies to fully reimburse employees for all the fees they incurred as a result of misclassification, the court will send a message to employers that wage law violations will not be tolerated."

The judge then certified the Awuah v Coverall case to Massachusetts highest court after determining that state wage laws require employers to cover certain statutory costs of doing business, and that shifting such expenses to a misclassified worker constitutes damages incurred. Because the Supreme Judicial Court had no controlling precedence, Judge Young submitted pertinent questions to give the court the opportunity to set a precedent in defining the damages that should be available to the employees misclassified as independent contractors.

On one pertinent question addressing whether Coverall could deduct franchise fees from the employees' wages, the state's Supreme Court concluded, "No. . . the Wage Act forbids the deduction."

Prior to the decision the case had brought criticism from the franchisor community. Coverall attorney Michael D. Vhay of Boston's DLA Piper stated that broadening the damages beyond wages and benefits would produce a flood of litigation and drive franchisors from the state because they would be unable to collect fees from franchisees.

Steve Calderia, CEO of the International Franchise Association said, "On behalf of the franchise industry, we urge the court to fully take into account the unique attributes of franchising and the federal regulatory oversight of the franchise business model."

Following the court's decision, Liss-Riordan said, "Today's ruling from the SJC is a long-awaited victory for potentially thousands of cleaning workers throughout Massachusetts. The court determined that Massachusetts wage laws and public policy prohibit employers from selling jobs to employees." Liss-Riordan added that the commercial cleaning industry has been plagued by companies such as Coverall that claim to be franchisors but are really employers who make their money by profiting off of their own workers. She said, "This ruling will allow commercial cleaning to be performed in Massachusetts by legitimate employers who do not charge their workers for their jobs. The ruling will have huge ramifications on the commercial cleaning industry, as well as potentially other industries, and the ruling will likely have ripple effects in other states."

Recently in the news over 2 dosen people were picketing infront of Stratus. These people on Television were saying that Stratus ripped them off. Most lost there life savings. One gentleman who lost everything described Stratus like a Cave of RATS!

The Police were called and Stratus was hiding and refused to talk. They ran and hid because they know that they are guilty!

I'll see if I can find the link and I will post it here.

These are just some of the cases jan-pro lost or settled out of court

Climaco Guzman and Cielo Guzman vs. Jan-Pro Cleaning Systems, Inc. and Carol McLennan (Case No. C. A. P96-4703, Superior Court of the State of Rhode Island, and Providence Plantations) was filed on September 4, 1996. Mr. Guzman, a JAN-PRO unit franchisee, brought this suit against Jan-Pro Cleaning Systems, Inc., a Rhode Island regional master franchisee, and Carol McLennan, who at that time was the regional master franchisee''s vice President, alleging breach of contract and fraud because of the defendants'' alleged failure to provide Mr. Guzman with the customer accounts provided for in Mr. Guzman''s Unit Franchise Agreement. The Trial Court ruled in favor of Mr. Guzman and awarded Mr. Guzman damages of $120, 00 0 and attorneys'' fees of $7, 500.

This following case was settled out of court I wonder how much jan-pro had to pay.

Ellen Morales, Plaintiff vs. Clean 17, Inc. (d/b/a Jan-Pro Cleaning Systems of Southwest FL), and Jan-Pro Franchising International, Inc., Defendants; Circuit Court of the 20th Judicial Circuit, Lee County, Florida; Case No. 07-CA6992: Ellen Morales ("Morales"), a franchisee of Clean 17, Inc., ("Southwest Jan-Pro"), filed a complaint on July 8, � 2007, against Southwest Jan-Pro., � a Florida regional master

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franchisee, and Jan-Pro Franchising International, Inc. ("JPI"), the franchisor. The complaint asserts the following causes of action against Southwest Jan-Pro: 1) . breach of contract, alleging that Southwest Jan-Pro: failed to pay total gross monthly revenue or monthly gross billing owed for customer accounts; failed to provide the minimum number of customer cleaning accounts; failed to provide start�up equipment and cleaning supplies; failed to provide adequate advisory services; failed to provide invoicing and billing services; failed to provide mandatory training; and failed to provide adequate assistance with customer accounts; 2) fraud in the inducement, alleging that Southwest Jan-Pro made misrepresentations to induce Morales to purchase the franchise; 3) general fraud, alleging that Southwest Jan-Pro''s misrepresented Morales''s ability to recoup investment and obtain replacement accounts; and 4) quantum meruit, alleging that Southwest Jan-Pro was unjustly enriched because it failed to fully pay Morales for labor, services, and materials. The complaint also asserts negligence against JPI, alleging that JPI failed to perform its duty to properly train, supervise and implement company policies, procedures and obligations. Morales is demanding damages and attorneys'' fees and payment of $32, 094.05 for labor and materials for service she allegedly performed.

To lying source I have received 100's of calls from people in 27 different states including 3 different states from Canada. It looks like to me like that means that the whole jan-pro corporation is crooked. Its not just a one master franchisor it's the whole jan-pro corporation. I was a very good cleaner worker just ask the people who I was cleaning for I even have letters of recomendation. You should ask jan-pro to give you a copies or if you want lying source I can send them to you but of course you are to CHIKEN to contact me!

The coverall Lawsuit the Awuah case is now in Superior Court were a panel of Judges will determine how much coverall will have to pay for hurting and ripping of these families. lying source stop telling lies.

Jan-pro has been sued in the past and jan-pro has lost and been forced to pay for hurting families. Our Class action Lawsuit is going strong. A plaintiff recently Won a Summary Judgement against jan-pro in Georgia! This was a big blow for jan-pro. So you see lying source our attorneys have won so quit lying. They also won one of the Biggest most important lawsuits against a cleaning franchisor when they prooved that a worker was not a franchisee but an employee and they forced the franchisor to pay this person all of there investemnet and damages and they even got unemployment.

If you have been ripped-off by jan-pro please contact the Federal Trade Commision and file a complaint at www.Ftc.gov you should also contact the Attorney General and file a complaint with them to. You can also contact the following lawfirm www.llrlaw.com

You can also contact me Jerry at [protected]

To Lying source and voice of Lies,

Why wont you say what your real names are? Why are you so afraid? What are you hiding? It's time to be a MAN. It's time for you to say who you really are. I have my proof of how jan-pro Rips-off people. I will show this proof. I will say who I'am. I'am Gerardo Vazquez "Jerry" I go by 1st Amendment my cell number is [protected]. I'am a MAN. If you are both real MEN. Then tell us who you are. It's time for you both to stop hiding behind a computer. Are you Men or are you COWARDS?

To the lying source and voice of lies

1. Who do you work for, oh I know ?
A. jan-pro wonder how much they pay the ifa international franchise association
B. www.webstercapital.com
C. richard kisane
D. ifa international franchise association david french. Did you know that cleaning franchises pay them lots of $$$ money. The ifa sent letters to congress to try and stop us from getting Justice. Wonder how much $$$ Money $$$ there giving them in donations?
E. all of the above

2. I just found out who the SEIU is . I wonder why you are so afraid of them? Why do you fear hard working people? I'm not part of them but I find it interesting why you hate them so much I wonder why ?

3. Nobody is paying my Lawyers they are working on a constituency
basis.

lying source and voice of lies Will you ever tells us who you work for ?
Will you ever tell us who you work for or your names ?
I know lying source is the same idiot who was talking crap on the other site www.unhappyfranshiee.com you got your but kicked there and your but kicked here to.

If you have been ripped-off by jan-pro you should file a complaint with the Federal Trade commission www.Ftc.gov.

Also file a complaint with www.Fraud.org

You can also file a complaint with the department of corporations. In California the number is [protected]

You can also file a complaint with Attorney General www.Justice.gov

My attorneys website is the following www.llrlaw.com

You can also talk to the following law firms.

1. www.Dadygarner.com
2. www.Goldlawgroup.com
There is many attorneys out there. It's best however if you use a law firm that specializes in franchise law, fraud, Rico raqueteering,
The following organizations will also help
1. ACLU
2. NAACP
3. NCLR
4. www.ncvc.org
5. www.ncpc.org
6. www.ovc.gov
7. www.fraud.org
8.www.trynova.org
9. Postalinspectors.uspis.gov
10. We also feel that they have broken some laws with the IRS you might want to look into it as we believe that jan-pro has broken some IRS laws.

My name is Gerardo Vazquez "Jerry" I go by "1st Amendment" on the internet I live in California my phone number is [protected]
I have NOTHING to Hide and I'm not afraid of jan-pro or there goons that they send here to attack me.
Anyone can call me.
If anyone wants more information on the National class action Lawsuit please feel free to call me.
To voice of lies and lying source Who are you? What is your name? Why wont you come forward, Cowards!

Again exposed on Television again. The fake cleaning franchises keep ripping of people. We need to stop this Fraud, this Crime. These people need to be sent to Prison. Like the guy on the video said there like "Rats in a Cave" as you can see the master franchisor would not come out. He was hiding because he is guilty of stealing peoples money.

http://www.telemundo52.com/video/27856290/index.html

To voice of lies, I knew that you were not a real man much less a man of his word. Why are you so afraid to come forward and say your name? You can say a lot of lies and throw crap around and hide like a mouse behind your computer. It’s time for the truth to come out or is it that you are just someone being paid by jan-pro to lie? Or are you a master franchisor ripping of a lot of people.

Again why are you so AFRAID to say your name. Why is it that you would be so afraid to post your phone number? Is it because you would get hundreds of calls from people from all over the country calling you and telling you how they were ripped of by jan-pro? We all know that’s the real reason why.

I have received hundreds of calls from people all over the country from 27 different states. I have also received calls from people in Canada. The list keeps on growing.

If you have been ripped of by jan-pro there is several things that you can do.

1. File a complaint with the Federal trade commission www.ftc.gov

2. File a complaint with the Attorney General www.stopfraud.gov www.justice.gov

3. File a complaint with the department of corporations. In California the number is [protected]

4. Let your local news station know what is going on and hopefully they report the scam on television. If you know anyone who speaks Spanish Telemundo has a number that they can call and they will investigate and expose them on tv [protected]

5. There also seems to be some shinaginans going on which could be a violation of the IRS. You might want to call the IRS and investigate.

If anyone wants a copy of the National Class action lawsuit that we have against jan-pro or if you want more information please feel free to call me at [protected].

To voice of no reason I have told you before the same thing so quit trying to lye. I told you I turned those ripoff underbid accounts because they were paying less than minimum wage! I'm not the only one who says this. If you read all the complaints against jan-pro and all the hundreds of people who have been tiped-off by jan-pro they wil all tell you that they were given badly underbid accounts that pay less then minimim wage. Call me and give me your adress and I will send you copies of letters of recomendation. Unless your afraid to talk to me. I think that the only hypocrite and liar is you. You say that I'm calling you names but then you call me names? Your the Hypocrite.

You know my name is Jerry. Whats your name voice of lies? I will be waiting for your call [protected] so that I can send you my letters of recomendation.

If anyone is getting riped-off by jan-pro don't let them rip you off, if they are not stoped they will only keep ripping off more families. One of the things that you can do imediatelly is file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commision. www.Ftc.Gov If they get alot of complaints then this Federal Goverment Agency will step in and take action.

To someone who calls himself informed source or like what you realy are a lying source. First our National class action is still going and we will never back down until we get Justice. We are not being founded by seiu and if we were why do you hate them so much? Who is lying source and why does he hide behind that nick name? Mean while more people keep posting complaints and more lawsuits keep geting filled and I hear that jan-pro is starting to settle them out of court.

To voice of LIES
You want copies of my letters of recomendation. Absolutely I will even frame them for you. Give me your adress and I will mail them to you.

To the Voive of LIES!
First of all I didn't loose any accounts. I turned them in because jan-pro underbid them so LOW that I was making less than minium wage! It's sick how you just LIE and LIE and say things that are not true. Really why do you do that? Why would you LIE and say that I lost any accounts? Why do you LIE so much. I never lost any accounts. I was working for less than minimum wage and got tired of jan-pros crap and turned in the keys. You really need to stop Lying and pulling things right out of your [censor] without knowing me or what is going on. By the way I hear that more lawsuits are being filled. Things are also looking good in some lawsuits.

Hello doug, I used to clean for jan-pro. I was a verry good cleaner. I received letters of recomendation from Big companies that you would easily recognice. All of the cleanners that worked for jan-pro cleaned very good even though jan-pro was only paying them less than minimum wage. I have talked to other independent cleaning business owners who have told me that jan-pro underbid there accounts so low that jan-pro took there accounts away. I these independent business owners have a right to sue jan-pro and win since they are using unfair competition.

I feel bad for you for jan-pro underbiding your accounts and taking your business away. No business or person can live by making $5.00 Dollars an hour.

You cam read this article at the following website.

http://www.courthousenews.com/2008/04/22/Jan-Pro_Faces_Class_Action_From_Franchisees_.htm

Jan-Pro Faces Class Action From 'Franchisees'
BOSTON (CN) - Jan-Pro Franchising International cheats its cleaning employees by misclassifying them as franchisees, selling them "franchises" through misrepresentations, violates labor laws, and targets immigrants for all this, a class action claims in Federal Court.
The three named plaintiffs say Jan-Pro abuses its workers by "systemic misrepresentations and breaches of contract. ... Most notably, Jan-Pro purports to sell cleaning 'franchises, ' knowing it does not have sufficient business to satisfy its obligations under its franchise agreements. Individuals purchase these 'franchises' for substantial sums of money, based on Jan-Pro's misrepresentations about the guaranteed amount of monthly income the franchises will provide."
Jan-Pro targets people who do not speak English well for its deceptions, knowing they will not understand the contracts, and misrepresents the hourly pay they will receive, the plaintiffs say.
Plaintiff Giovanni Depianti bought his "franchise" by paying Jan-Pro "an initial fee of $23, 400, " and Hyun Ki Kim paid "an initial fee of $14, 400, " the suit states.
Jan-Pro claimed to guarantee them "a certain level of monthly income, " but "systematically breaches" these agreements, the men say.
Depianti was guaranteed $8, 000 a month and earned less than $3, 000, and Kim was guaranteed $7, 000 a month and made less than $4, 000, the men say.
They claim Jan-Pro churns accounts by manufacturing bogus "customer complaints" to take business away from one of its victims to offer it to another.
Represented by Shannon Liss-Riordan with Pyle Rome Lichten, the class demands damages for misrepresentation, unjust enrichment and wage law violations.
.

One of the things we can do is file a complaint with the FTC, Attorney General and join the National Class Action Lawsuit.

How to file a complaint with the FTC and why you should

It is very important that if you are defrauded or have been victim to one of the scams we discuss here that you file a complaint with the FTC (Federal Trade Commission). Filing complaints with the FTC is very important because complaints filed with the FTC get put into a secure database that is used by law enforcement to investigate cases. The FTC does not follow each and every complaint but instead investigates sources that have lots of complaints.

The FTC will total all the related cases into large case leads and refers them out to task forces for investigations. You are not the only victim of these scams but if we do not file a complaint it may not get the attention deserved. Do not think that you are going to get a call from the FTC because you filed but it can help raise awareness with the FTC so they can take action.
The FTC however can open investigations against entities that have violated consumer protection laws so filing a complaint is very important in this regard. FTC will not advocate on your behalf or even promise they will investigate the claim however it is one way they can get the information they need to put a stop to organizations that are violating the law.
How to file a complaint with the FTC

* Go to the Federal Trade Commissions Complaint Assistant
* Click on the Complaint Assistant link on the right
* The wizard will walk you through all the steps of filing the complaint. Add as much detail as you can and make sure the information you give is clear and effectively tells your side of the complaint.

It is a very easy process but one that is vital to combating the scams that are taking advantage of millions of people.

As you know I have received many calls from people all over the country. So far people from 25 states have called me including people from different parts of Canada. Close to 100 people have contacted me. From this we can conclude that the whole company is bad.

Someone might say do the math before you accept a building. The problem with this is that most people don’t know and this is were they take advantage of them. Those that do have experience and decline a building because it’s so badly underbid will be retaliated against because now jan-pro will count those accounts towards them and jan-pro will not offer them anymore accounts. They wont return your money and they will say that they have met there obligations of offering you work. This is basically a Racketeering Scam. Also many times they will call you and if people don’t accept a building right away without even looking at it they will count it towards them. Why are they even offering people bad accounts that pay less than minimum wage? They know this is wrong. Why do they count accounts towards people when they decline an account when jan-pro knows very well that an account would pay less than minimum wage. I have had people tell me that they would be offered accounts to be cleaned during there normal working hours in there regular job. jan-pro knew very well that they couldn’t clean those accounts at those times because people would be at there regular job during those hours. They had already told jan-pro that they could not work those hours but now jan-pro would call them knowing very well that they will decline it because they work there normal job during those hours. Now they use this as an excuse to say that they have offered you accounts. Other times they wont even let people look at an account they just want them to accept it right away or they will count it towards them. Basically this is all a Racketeering Scam.

Being in a recession is no excuse to rip people off. If they can’t find a decent account then simply give people there money back. It’s that simple There is no need to underbid an account so low that people make less than minimum wage.

You are right in that the operation managers should not have a franchise or anyone in there family. An operations manager can now take accounts away from anybody and then give them to someone in his family. This is a Racket that needs to be prosecuted and these people put in jail.

I suggest that if you have been ripped-off by jan-pro that you should file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commission and Attorney General. You can also join the National Class Action Lawsuit against jan-pro.

You can file a complaint by going to www.Ftc.Gov

I read the following article at Bluemaumau.org

Federal Judge: Franchising Sounds Like Ponzi Scheme

Posted Thu, 2010/04/01 - 19:12 by Corbin Williston

Is franchising "a modified Ponzi scheme?" Last week, a federal judge said it might be.

Janitorial franchises have long been a source of embarrassment for the franchise industry, and frequently attract purchasers with few assets and poor command of English.

A 2001 report by the GAO on FTC enforcement of the Franchise Rule found that from [protected], Coverall violations had affected 2591 investors, and JaniKing violations affected 900 investors.
A 2005 news article in the NY Times noted complaints by Brazilian immigrant franchisees of Coverall in Boston, and a settlement of Coverall litigation in Los Angeles in which franchisees alleged fraud.
An August 2009 interview with Franchise Times quoted Coverall making this claim:
Jacqueline Vlaming, Coverall’s general counsel, said, “Every franchise owner who runs it like a business can make money.”

In the most recent lawsuit, Pius Awuah and 10 other franchisees relate similar stories:

1.They paid Coverall North America a "franchise fee" in exchange for which
2.They were promised a minimum dollar amount of client accounts to service each month.
3.Coverall entered into the contract with the clients and billed the clients.
4.Coverall assigned the franchisees to clean the client premises, and
5.Coverall would remit money to the franchisees after deducting various charges.
The franchisees alleged in their Complaint that they were never given the amount of business they had been promised, and that the degree of control which Coverall exercised over them meant that as a matter of Massachusetts law that they were really employees of Coverall.

After filing suit, the franchisee attorneys uncovered damaging information and Coverall moved to seal court documents. In an interlocutory appeal, a 3 judge panel of the 1st Circuit Court of Appeals said in October 2009:

Coverall has been charged--it has not been found liable in this case--with activities that could be viewed as highly unattractive[cite omitted]

It is not necessarily the disclosure to competitors that makes the district court's order a matter of concern. Others, including enforcement agencies and potential plaintiffs, may find the disclosures of interest in ways that would not serve Coverall's interests. [emphasis underlined in original]

The lawsuit continued and on March 23, 2010 the District Court ruled in favor of the "franchisee" plaintiffs, holding that they are in fact employees.

What has attracted attention within the franchise community is the Judge's comments about Coverall's assertion that its business was actually the sale of franchises. Traditionally industry trade groups such as the IFA have maintained that franchising is not an industry but rather a business model (although the IFA has on other occasions defined franchising as an industry).

Judge Young stated:

Describing franchising as a business in itself, as Coverall seeks to do, sounds vaguely like a description for a modified Ponzi scheme – a company that does not earn money from the sale of goods and services, but from taking in more money from unwitting franchisees to make payments to previous franchisees.

The Judge went on to say that he believed that in fact Coverall was in the business of janitorial services and that under Massachusetts law the "franchisees" were really employees of Coverall. But the use of the term "Ponzi scheme" and the interlocutory ruling have caused this case to gain wide attention.

An interesting issue raised by franchise law firm Nixon Peabody is the impact of the Massachusetts statute and case law on post-term non-compete clauses.

The IFA issued a press release criticizing the ruling as a threat to franchising in Massachusetts. As far back as 1998, the IFA took the (then) unheard-of step and filed an amicus brief opposing a janitor who filed for unemployment after being fired from his job at West Sanitation Services. (Matter of Francis, 688 N.Y.S.2d 55)

A bigger threat to Coverall might be the bad publicity which has caused it to lose contracts with Boston-area clients such as Legal Sea Foods and Cheescake Factory (NASDAQ: CAKE). Both restaurants paid Coverall, but the mostly Hispanic cleaning staff did not get paid.

Coverall said it had properly sent money to the Boston "franchisee" and that it bore no responsibility for seeing that the workers were paid. After media reports, Coverall paid the wages. Legal Sea Foods terminated Coverall due to concerns about worker mistreatment, Cheescake Factory terminated Coverall due to a number of concerns, and the Massachusetts Attorney General is investigating the janitorial industry, according to the Boston Globe.

To voice of Lies,

1. Here we go again you start of by calling me names. Now your calling me a baby and a socialist, etc…Then you call the people who got ripped-off by jan-pro Blind men. What are you going to call me on your next post? What will you call everybody else? Then you start to apologize but it’s another jan-pro trick because at the end you kick everybody in the back of the head and take it right back, like if it’s some kind of joke. Then again you switch it and tell me that you are not apologizing to me but only to the Thousands of people that got ripped-off by jan-pro? Nobody can believe anything you say.

2. One of the things that I would like to emphasize to people who are looking into buying a fake franchise with jan-pro is don't believe anything jan-pro tells you. Voice of Lies even tells you on his last post do not do business with jan-pro unless they put it in writing because jan-pro will Lie to you to get your noney and once they do they will go back on there word. So be Warned that jan-pro is not the kind of people that you can shake hands with and make a deal or believe anything that they tell you.

3. Why is it that you call me a socialist. Is it because I stand up to jan-pro and say, Stop ripping off people! Now anybody that stands up for themselves is a socialist. What do people that have a fake franchise with jan-pro call the treatment they get from jan-pro? A Dictatorship.

4. jan-pro had there chance to come out on Television and defend themselves. The only thing that they told the Television station was that they would send people a letter to see what they could do. It's been almost two months and those letters still haven't arrived. They lied again. Richard kisane the President of jan-pro said on Franchisetimes that they only have one lawsuit but on TV were jan-pro was exposed they showed Four Lawsuits and I know of at least seven lawsuits.

5. When jan-pro steals accounts to give to someone else they call those loans, I call those stolen accounts. What they do is sick. How can they steal accounts from someone and resale it a few times to diferent people and keep the Racket going. How can jan-pro take food away from a family. How can you steal accounts from families or single moms with kids. Have you no soul?

6. You said that the lawsuits are very lucrative to Lawyers. This is part of jan-pros way of putting us down. Sounds to me like you are saying that when people get ripped-off they shouldn't do anything. That’s why we have trials in this country to seek out Justice. You are desperate and to the point you will say Anything to put us down because we are seeking Justice and our day in court.

7. Voice of lies, Now you really did it. Now you have absolutely no Credibility AT ALL. Anybody looking to buy a jan-pro franchise please read what voice of Lies tries to say in his last post. Voice of Lies is somehow convinced that making $5.00 Dollars an hour is a great deal. His mind is going out of whack! He is trying to justify that making $5.00 dollars an hour is great. He really needs to stop listening to the voices in his head. To any person looking to buy a fake franchise remember this, if you buy a fake franchise with jan-pro and they give you accounts were you only make $5.00 Dollars an hour they will try and justify it. That is the kind of Bull crap that they will pull on you.

8. Jan-pros system is set up to rip you off from the beginning. I read on Franchisetimes.com that franchise Lawyers for Franchisors are constantly changing the contracts and Fdds so that they can beat any Lawsuits in court. It’s to the point were they try and change the Law. One franchisor tried to change the Law by bringing down the statue of limitations by a year. Can you believe that kind of crap. They are to the point were they are changing the Laws of our country. When I left jan-pro they wanted me to give up my right to talk to an Attorney. Can you believe that they tried to take my right to talk to an Attorney! It’s a Racket, a modified Ponzi scheme that needs to be stopped. .

9. Finally I leave you with the last paragraph of an article I read on Franchisetimes.com

“When the courts are involved, no franchisor is an island” by Janet Sparks

Franchisors’ bad behavior affects all

Some franchisors don’t seem fazed by the sea of litigation they are sinking in or by bad press. Attacks on blogs from angry franchisees may jolt them when they attempt to sell more franchises, but even then, many choose to stay the course. But as court decisions change the way franchisors must conduct business in certain states, and public legal documents allow their dark sides to be exposed, what are potential risks? If Capitol Hill should get a whiff of the rank odor coming from some big franchisors, new legislation might favor franchisees. That’s one risk no franchisor wants to take.

To Voice of Lies

1. There not allegations, they are Facts and the Truth. We have the proof. This will all be proven. You can’t call Maria Celeste a tabloid. She is an honest reporter who reports the news. She is highly respected and a lady of integrity. For you to call her a tabloid is wrong. I know that you are mad because jan-pro was exposed on Television so you feel the need to lash out. You said that the lawsuit was the first place that we went to. That is not true. We tried talking to jan-pro but jan-pro didn’t care. Infact I tried talking to them many times but they simply told me tough luck. They didn’t care.

2. The way you accuse me of being a socialist is wrong. The way you make things up like saying that I expect things given to me whether I earned them or not is also another sick attack on me and more made up lies. I know that you are mad because I said that jan-pro underbids accounts so low that I was making less than a Third World countries minimum wage. I tell the truth of what happened to me and even though you don’t know me you attack me with lies. Sounds like typical jan-pro management. Now do you see why we were forced to take legal action, because talking to jan-pro is like talking to a Dictator.

3. The problem again being that jan-pro bids there accounts so low that there is no money to be made. No profit. It’s really ridiculous at how low jan-pro bids. Voice of lies would you take an account were you only made $5.00 Dollars an hour?

4. I expected jan-pro to do what they promised not to be deceitful, lie, commit Fraud, or underbid accounts. You said that I shouldn’t expect jan-pro to provide all the answers. Guess what that is exactly what they tell potential franchisees. They will be very nice before you give them a check but once you do they change. It’s an ongoing Racket.

5. Jan-pro gave me accounts that they took away from other people. They gave me underbid accounts and you call those loans? It’s more like stolen recycled accounts. Jan-pro told me to do extra work. I did what jan-pro told me. I was told that I would be paid for that work, then I wasn’t. Theft, Fraud and Racketeering.

6. You can keep trying to deny it all you want but I know of other lawsuits. Jan-pro has been sued in Rhode Island, Jan-pro has been sued in Texas, Jan-pro has been sued in South Carolina, Jan-pro has been sued in Florida, jan-pro has been sued in San Jose California, jan-pro has been sued in Ontario California, jan-pro has been sued in the United States District Court.

7. The bbb can’t do anything. They can’t enforce anything. They have no judicial power to take action. Jan-pro can simply throw away any complaint in the trash and once they find out who complained they will retaliate against them just like janiking did recently against its workers.

8. Many people are afraid of jan-pro. On this one newspaper interview a person asked the newspapers to hide there identity. Did you see the special on TV were some of the ladies were hiding there faces. That’s because they are afraid of jan-pro. I had a lady tell me that she was afraid of jan-pro and that even though she was getting ripped-off she was afraid to speak up. They to tried to scare me and intimidate me.

9. I’m not an attorney but I do feel that jan-pro is in violation of the Rico and Racketeering acts.

10. In response to your last post. It seems like you started to apologize but the way you worded it, it seems to me like you took it right back. When we go to trial you will see what I have been telling you all this time. You will see the truth. You to will be disgusted at what jan-pro has been doing Nationwide .We were Ripped-off by jan-pro. That is the Truth and we will prove it when we go to trial.

I found this at TRLA

February 22, 2010
San Antonio Worker Sues for Unpaid Wages and Retaliation
Posted by Texas RioGrande Legal Aid under Client Resources, Labor & Employment, Press Release
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FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Contact: Sarah Donaldson, Attorney
Office: [protected]
sdonaldson@trla.org

SAN ANTONIO, Texas – February 22, 2010 – A San Antonio worker has sued Dallas-based Jani-King International, Inc. and local Jani-King employers Ramiro and Elizabeth Bernal for violating minimum wage and overtime laws and for unlawful retaliation.

Represented by Texas RioGrande Legal Aid (TRLA) and the Equal Justice Center (EJC), Gabriela Monsivaiz alleges that she was not paid minimum wage and overtime for the janitorial work she performed for Jani-King between 2007 and 2009. The lawsuit also alleges that Ms. Monsivaiz was terminated when she asked to be paid properly.

“The complaint alleges that our client was fired because she stood up for her rights to minimum and overtime wages, ”said Sarah Donaldson, a TRLA attorney representing Monsivaiz.

The lawsuit alleges that Jani-King and its local operators violated the Fair Labor Standards Act (FLSA) and the Texas Minimum Wage Act. According to these laws, employees must be paid at least $7.25 per hour of work. Under the FLSA, an employer must also pay overtime of 1.5 times an employee’s hourly rate for each hour worked beyond 40 in a given week. The FLSA prohibits an employer from retaliating against an employee for asserting her rights under the FLSA. The lawsuit was filed in federal court in San Antonio.

Monsivaiz’s case comes as part of a new San Antonio-based wage recovery project aimed at helping low-income workers recover when they are unpaid or underpaid for their work. TRLA and the EJC, two non-profit law firms with experience advocating for low-income workers, are collaborating on this project to address the growing problem of workers’ rights violations in San Antonio. Workers who are interested in learning more about their rights can contact the project at [protected].

According to Donaldson, the problem is wide-spread. “We have heard many complaints from janitorial workers who, like our client, say they were not paid correctly for their work cleaning the businesses, schools and restaurants we all use.”

Established in 1970, Texas RioGrande Legal Aid, Inc. (TRLA) is a nonprofit organization that provides free civil legal services to low-income and disadvantaged clients in a 68-county service area. TRLA’s mission is to promote the dignity, self-sufficiency, safety and stability of low-income Texas residents by providing high-quality civil legal assistance and related educational services. The Equal Justice Center (EJC) is an employment justice and civil rights organization which empowers low-income families, individuals and communities to achieve systemic reforms that improve their lives. For more information on these organizations visit www.equaljusticecenter.org or www.trla.org.

To [censored]

1. Here we go again first thing you do is start calling me names. In your last post you called me a communist, a hater, a liar and an idiot. You said I fell from a wagon and then you finish it by saying that You have no brain cells. LOL. Anybody looking to buy a Jani-king or jan-pro franchise this is the kind of people you will deal with so beware.

2. No [censored] I think you forgot to do your homework. You thought you had me didn’t you. Not! The Lawsuit in Minnesota didn’t go through because of some technical issues. Federal class actions are very technical. However it’s nothing to worry about. The franchisees can file there own Lawsuits. Just Imagine if 30, 40, or 50 of them all go and file independent Lawsuits. That is going to be one very crowded courthouse. Imagine what the next jani-king Fdd is going to look like with 52 lawsuits plus another 40 or 50 added to it for a total of maybe 100. Half the Fdd will be Lawsuit disclosures!

I also like the way that somehow you forgot to mention a few things or maybe they just slipped through your brain. Oh I’m sorry I forgot that you have no brain cells. You forgot to mention that the judge in the California lawsuit simply said to comeback and amend the lawsuit because he wanted to see more details. I would hate to see it not get class certification and have 995 independent lawsuits. Imagine the next time a person walks into a jani-king office looking into buying a franchise and sees 995 lawsuits on the Fdd. I can see that person flying out of there like a Bat from hell.

You also forgot to mention that the Jani-king Lawsuit in Massachusetts got Class Action Certification and the Trial starts in May.

3. So somehow you try and suggest that it’s ok for jan-pro to not give you all of your accounts and that you should get them yourself. What would you have done if you would have bought one of there biggest packages and they only gave you one very small account that paid less than minimum wage and a whole year passes by and you never hear from them again. You are forgetting that they don’t teach you how to acquire accounts infact they don‘t teach you much except command you where and at what times to clean like an employee. There is no support, the training is a joke, and they have a bad name.

Infact on a website www.Bluemaumau.com reporter Corbin Williston stated “Janitorial franchises have long been a source of embarecement for the franchise industry”

He also stated that “A 2001 report by the GAO on FTC Enforcement of the franchise rule found that from [protected] jani-king violations affected 900 investors”.

4. Again you start with your Deceit and try using mumbo jumbo to change things around. Basically all they do is tell you when and were to clean. They don’t teach you sales, or marketing, or nothing, nothing at all. They sell franchises, steal franchises away and sell them again and steal them again and sell them again. It’s a Racket. A Ponzi Scheme. It’s Fraud and the stealing of accounts to sale to another. The money that these franchisors have made from this scam is in the Millions. They are not in the business of cleaning. Your business never grows instead they steal your accounts to sale to another new franchisee. Did your brain cells get it this time?

5. You said something about give and take. These cleaning franchisors only TAKE. You said that I shouldn’t expect to make a Million Dollars. I don’t expect that, but I didn’t expect to be given accounts that pay less than a third world countries minimum wage! Would you take accounts that paid $5.00 Dollars an hour?

6. You said you turned in accounts after 10 days. Why? Your brain cells couldn’t handle it? Did you get a callous in your hand? Was there no air condition in the place you had to clean or you couldn’t find someone to rip-off that would do the work for $4.00 an hour. By the way this reminds me of the latest Lawsuit against janiking in San Antonio, Texas were a worker is suing for unpaid wages? Yes, add another lawsuit to there litigation and Fdd. How many Lawsuits is it now? Is it 30, 40, 50, Did I loose count? oh wait it’s up to 53 Lawsuits.

7. All the decisions come from headquarters. The decisions come from the Top.

8. I thought that you were so smart that you could bid and get any account and now your excuse is that you couldn’t get a bond. Sounds like excuses to me. You should have done like your buddy “voice of lies” says and went to some website and figured it out. [censored] you didn’t take your buddy’s advice. You should have gone to his website that he talks about. He is going to be disappointed in you. Lastly [censored] I don’t believe you, No body believes you or your bag of lies. Your full of brain snot.

“I went and bought a fake franchise with jan-pro, two long months later when they gave me my first paycheck, I looked at it and said what the Fock!”

1st Amendment

To the Voice of lies,

1. If you saw the Television Special were jan-pro was EXPOSED for Riping-off those ladies then what more proof do you need. Those ladies are hard working ladies. They just want to work hard and be able to pay there bills and make a living. They don't like Lawsuits and I don't like them either. However we were Riped-off and it isn't right.

2. You acused me of being a socialist because I said that jan-pro was ripping me off. The accounts they gave me payed less than a Third World Countries Minimum Wage. Making less than minimum wage might be ok in a comunistic Third World country but it isn't right in Canada or The United States of America. We can't alow to let jan-pro get away with this because that will hurt this Country and everyone that lives here.

3. Again you start of by Making things up and imagining things. That is what jan-pro tries to do all the time. You should have heard some of the lies jan-pro told about me to a reporter, it was so ridiculous that the reporter laughed.

4. Again the accounts that jan-pro gave me were underbid. Many people will tell you the same thing. It's the Truth. Some were so low that it would not surprise me if they were paying less than a Third World Countries Minimum wage.

5. I also now of many people in the Military who got Riped-off by jan-pro. What do you have to say to that? I know of some veterans and people active who got riped-off by both janiking and jan-pro. They are very mad that they got riped-off.

6. What is deplorable, what is Sick and disgusting is that because of jan-pros Fraud people will loose everything and you seem to not care.

7. I know many people who invested $25, 000, $20, 000, $15, 000 $10, 000 $5, 000 and some who invested $900.00. Either way and either amount it isn't right for jan-pro to rip them off. You said that you expect people to perform the minimum when there is a contract. Let me tell you jan-pro doesn't do any of that.

8. Here we go with your shinaginans of Deceit again. You are ridiculous in what you said about buying a car and then having the person you bought it from drive you around. Is that the best example you could come up with? Are you seriuosly thinking straight? What PART of underbid accounts don't you understand. What is the use of investing on a jan-pro franchise. I hope that anyone looking to invest in a jan-pro franchise reads all of this and all the post because that way they can read what you keep on saying and they can see what kind of crap they would have to deal with. They can also read the part were you continue and continue to say that if jan-pro doesn't help you once you give them Thousands of Dollars that you should just go to some website in the midle of who knows were and read some tips.

9. Basically you have said and you continue to say that if you buy a franchise with jan-pro and they don't help you tough luck and that you should figure it out on your own. Thats not what they say on there advertisements. More False advertising by jan-pro.

10. I bought the $9, 000 Dollar fake franchise and put $5, 000 down and on every paycheck they would deduct money from the rest of the money that they were riping me of on. They also charge interest on this. The accounts that they gave me were riped-off from other people and then given to me. I was also riped-off because they didn't pay me for extra work I did. They also tried to rip me off on some equipment.

11. You are lying again. Jan-pro has more Lawsuits than just 2. I know of 7 Lawsuits. I have talked to people who have filled there own Lawsuits. Jan-pro was sued in Rhode Island, jan-pro was sued in Florida, Jan-pro was sued in Ontario California, Jan-pro was sued in San Jose California, Jan-pro was sued in South Carolina, jan-pro was sued in Texas, Jan-pro was sued in The United States District Court For The District Of Massachusetts. By the way there is 11 Lead plaintifs in the National class action Lawsuit, these are people from all over the Country. As you can tell the jan-pro Scam is hapening all over the country. I also know of more people who were about to sue jan-pro but since jan-pro knew that they had all this incriminating evidence they settled out of court.

12. The first thing I did was talk to jan-pro and then they responded by giving me the Finger! Many people are very scared of jan-pro because they are afraid of retaliation. If you start to ask jan-pro questions they will retaliate against you. Besides if you feel that jan-pro is so inocent why are you so afraid of the Lawsuit. You also lied because the bbb is not showing any of the closest offices to me. I have also received calls from people who got riped off by jan-pro from all of these areas including Riverside county, Orange County and the Ontario area. I talked to someone who went to the bbb but they never heard nothing back. So nothing was acomplished.

13. Jan-pro is comiting deliberate Fraud across the country and Canada thats why it's a National Class Action Lawsuit. I would also like to see the U.S District Attorney go after them for Fraud. I feel that they have violated the Rico and Raqueteering Laws. They have Deliberate and ongoingly continue to commit Fraud. This is a crime that needs to be prosecuted with Prison.

To the voice of lies,

1. When we go to trial you will know exactly why I chose to use 1st Amendment. I picked it for a very important reason. For something that hapened at jan-pro and not just to me but everyone else. I will save it for our day in court. The evidence will come out.

2. Again I tell the Truth and I use my 1st Amendment rights and you call me names. Then you atack me because you say that I have posted twice since your last visit which wasn't that long ago. Your mad because I reply to your post. You are now sounding like a litle baby.

3. You are Lying and then you resort to calling me a socialist. How can you call me a socialist when I believe in the First Amendmentt? You are then saying that I couldn't make the crap accounts that jan-pro gave me work. The accounts that jan-pro gave me were Overwhelmingly Underbid, Those accounts payed less than a Third Worlds Countries Minimum Wage. Those were Overwhelmingly underbid accounts. Have you ever heard of paying people a fair wage? So now you resort to calling people who get mad because jan-pro riped them off by Overwhelmingly Underbiding Accounts Socialist. You really need to get your head cheked.

4. You talk about me not using resources. Are you seriously going back to that post you posted a short while back when you said that after someone gives jan-pro $20, 000 Dollars and jan-pro refuses to help them that they should go to some website and get help from who knows who and who knows where. Are you kidding me. Then why even bother buying a franchise. You would think that after paying jan-pro Thousands of Dollars that they would help you. Basicaly they take your money, control you and give you Overwhelmingly Underbid Accounts. Then you get mad when I tell you the Truth and you call me a socialist.

5. You act like being sued a few times is ok. Hey no big deal right. Lawsuits against jan-pro have been filled in the following states. Jan-pro has been sued in Rhode Island. Jan-pro has been sued in Florida. Jan-pro has been sued in Northern California. Jan-pro has been sued in the Inland Empire, California, Jan-pro has been sued in Texas, Jan-pro has been sued in South Carolina, jan-pro has been sued in the United States district court for the district of Massachusetts.

6. You keep trying to turn the other way and not listen to the Truth. Jan-pro takes accounts away for no reason and sells them to other incoming franchisees, jan-pro rips-you off with overwhelmingly underbid accounts, jan-pro doesnt give people back there money when they don't give them accounts which is a breach of contract, jan-pro controls you. Did you see the special report on Television on how jan-pro was riping of those ladies and how jan-pros checks would bounce. How the ladies would go to pick up there pay check and they wouldn't give it to them. There is your Proof.

7. If you have been riped-off by jan-pro you should file a complaint with the Federal Trade Commision. www.FTC.gov. You should also go to your District Attorney and tell them about how jan-pro ripped-you off. I feel that they are in Violation of the Rico and Raqueteering Acts. It's an ongoing deliberate Fraud.

To Dusche group,

1. You are using the same tactics as jan-pro to try and stop me from posting the Truth. Jan-pro tried to take my 1st Amendment Rights. It looks like Janiking is trying to do the same. What you can't handle the truth!
I'm exercising my Rights under the 1st Amendment. Besides as an American that Loves his Country if I see someone ripping of someone or taking advantage I can't just sit down and let them get away with it. Slavery was abolished a long time ago. Dusche group maybe you need to go to a communist country because here in America we have fredom. I know of all the scare tactics that you and jan-pro try to use but people are going to start standing up.

2. Explain the 52 pieces of Litigation Janiking has.

3. Explain the Class Action Lawsuits that Janiking has in California, Pennsylvania, Massachusetts and Minnesota.

4. This following Lawsuit by janiking is really something else. In order for janiking to get away from paying Taxes they tried to pass it on to the franchisee. Clasic isn't it. The Goverment didn't go for there crap. So now Janiking sues the Goverment. Yes thats right can you believe that. They sued the Comptroler of the State of Texas and the Attorney General. The Judge didn't buy there crap either and granted States Motion for Summary Judgement and held Janiking LIABLE. Janiking then Appealed and the court of appeals again found Janiking LIABLE! Anyone looking to buy a franchise with these companies now know what to expect from them. You have been warned that this is one of the many ### things that you can expect.

5. You said that if I dont like the contracts that jan-pro gives you that you should then go out and get your own. You make absolutely no sence. What is the point of buying a franchise then. I'm Glad that you mentioned this that way any potential person looking to buy a jan-pro or janiking franchise can see the way you all operate. So be warned everyone or any potential person looking to invest in these franchises. If they offer you crap accounts and and you are getting ripped of and you don't like it then tough luck and kiss your Hard earned money good bye.

6. These companies are in the business of selling franchises not cleaning.

7. You said that in some accounts you broke even, mine were much worse. Its funny how you try and use psycho bable to try and convince us that it's ok to get accounts were we breack even. Now you have been exposed. Now any potential people looking to buy a franchise have been warned. Then you try and imply that its ok because you can get some extra work which will also be underbid and a rip-off. You make absolutely no sence.

8. You lied again about the franchisor giving you 10 days in to which you can turn in the account. Infact this is a BIG FAT LIE.

9. Again you lie again. I see janiking franchises being advertised for $900 Buckos all the time. Is this more FALSE advertising.

10. On your last paragraph again you make no sence. You say that you are so good at geting accounts. Then why did you buy a franchise. If you are such a great business man what are you doing cleaning toilets. What jan-pro is doing is Fraud. They are doing the same thing a thief does when they breack into your house and steal your belongings. I'm not an Attorney but I think that Jan-pro needs to be prosecuted under the Rico and Raqueteering acts and there Executives and management need to go to Prison just like Madof and Enron. Anyone going to see there District Attorney please mention the Rico and Raqueteering acts.

In responce to "voice of lies"

1. You seem to not understand. I'm telling you that the only reason jan-pro has sold many franchises is because they are like vultures and sell many franchises for chump change. If all there franchises were selling for $500, 000 Thousand they would probably only have half a dosen franchisees.

2. You can jump up and down scream and yell and deny it all you want but the truth is that jan-pro Controls you. Thousands of franchisees will tell you that. We are treated worse than employees. It's a fact.

3. I have talked to alot of people and jan-pro never helped them. Infact they did the oposite. They riped them off. So I know you are lying and so does everyone else. I have also had people from Arizona call me, yes your area and they told me that they got riped-off by jan-pro.

4. I asure you that we will be suceesfull in pursuing justice. We are pursuing justice because we got riped off.

5. Yes jan-pros lawyer admited that to me personally. Yes I'm very serious. You know why he admited it, because it's the truth. What you can't handle the Truth.

6. Yes I do know of 7 lawsuits that were filled. You can cry and deny it all you want, but the evidence is there. What shocks me is that you try and make it seem like if it wasn't to many.

7. The lady who came out on the Television Special on how jan-pro rips-off people signed the contract because Jan-pro was Deceitfull, Missrepresentfull and Fraudaulent. They lied to her and comited Fraud. Jan-pro will tell you what ever they have to tell you to get you to buy.

8. Did you listen to one of the ladies statements? Jan-pro Lied to her and told her that the customer hadn't paid, but then they went and talked to the customer and the customer told them that they had already paid. What kind of Fraud is jan-pro pulling. To me this is Fraud and breach of contract.

9. Did you see what the ladies that were covered up said. They said that when they went to cash there jan-pro check that the jan-pro check BOUNCED! Then when they went in to talk to jan-pro to tell them that there check Bounced they were kicked out of the office.

10. When they show up on the day that they are supose to pick up there check many times they don't have it.

11. Do you know why some of the ladies are covered up, because jan-pro will retaliate against them for telling the truth and take all of there accounts away. That is how Jan-pro Controls you.

12. Because of jan-pro one of ladys is now loosing her house.

In responce to "v of r" who we all now is someone from Corporate.

1. By the way why are you copying my number system copycater.

2. The only reason Entrepeneur or jan-pro might say that they were growing fast is only because anyone with chump change can buy a franchise with $900 bucks. They are in the business of selling franchises not cleaning. Selling franchises for $900 bucks does not make jan-pro sucesfull but a seller of $900 chump change franchises.

3. You have lied. You said that you control your own business and that is a BIG Fat Lie. Jan-pro controls you and decides what they want and what they can doo to you. You are simply buying a less than minimum wage job. Again you are being Deceitfull and Fraudulent like jan-pro. I know of veternas who have been ripedoff. I find it offensive that jan-pro riped them-off and I dont understand how you could let jan-pro get away with that.

4. Are you seriously gona keep trying to tell everyone that after you pay jan-pro Thousands of Dollars and they don't help you after they promised you, that you should go to some website that is in who knows where for help and not jan-pro who you payed Thousands of Dollars to. Jan-pro who promised you so many things before you gave them your money. Are you seriously thinking straight. What was the use of paying Thousands of Dollars to jan-pro for? You make absolutely no sence! I hope that anyone who is looking to buy a franchise reads all of these post that way they can read your post and know that if they spend $20, 000 Dollars on jan-pro and you need help that you beter forget about it and go to some website from who knows were so that you can get some tips from who knows who. I guees you finaly admit to being part of corporate at jan-pro.

5. Why do you want to skip this part. Is the truth getting to you.

6. The Fdd is not straight forward. It is Missrepresentfull and Deceitfull. Jan-pros lawyers admited to me and said that the Fdd and Contract is hard to understand. They also said that you should get a lawyer who can read it for you. Why would he say all of that? Because he knows its hard to understand. Now ask yourself why is jan-pro making this so dificult to understand, what shinaginans are they pulling?

7. Yes I do know of 7 Lawsuits. This is a scam hapening all over the country. I have also received calls from people in Arizona. People from your area have also called me to complain and tell me that jan-pro has riped them off. You said that you would be interested in seing this incriminating evidence. I will make sure to save you a seat at the courthouse when we go to trial.

8. Jan-pro Exposed on TV. Recently jan-pro was Exposed on Television. Here is the link so that you can see how jan-pro riped-off these people.

http://msnlatino.telemundo.com/shows/Al_Rojo_Vivo/video_player?uuid=7d4cfdb4-97e0-4799-9b76-6a38d058e95f

This is in response to "the voice of r"

1. It's only obvious to anyone that if Entrepeneur magazine is getting payed THOUSANDS of DOLLARS that they are most likely going to say good things about them, Duh!

2. I see that you agree with me that $900 buckos is the only reason jan-pro got so many people to join and not because you tried to imply that they are a sucess. They are in the Business of SELLING Franchisees and nothing more.

3. You lied again. Are you in here to Lie and be Deceitfull? Stop being a LIAR. You Don't control your business. jan-pro controls you! If they call you at what ever time they feel like it and you don't return there call they will FINE you $50.00 Dollars. What kind of Dirty Crap is that. That is straight out stealling money. If jan-pro feels like it they can take your accounts away when ever they want to. Do you know how many people from around the country have called me and almost cried because they lost everything to jan-pro, because jan-pro ripped them off. How can you rip-off single moms, veterans, and hard working American families. How can jan-pro sleep at night.

4. Your 4th statement makes absolutely no sence. I mean seriously did you really think before you wrote it? I hope other people looking into buying a jan-pro franchise read this. Basicaly you are admiting that jan-pro will not teach you how to sell more business. So after someone gives jan-pro $20, 000 Dollars they should forget about jan-pro helping them or teaching them how to sell more business. So you are saying spend $20, 000 Dollars with jan-pro and then go to some website so that they can give you some tips ? You have got to really be kidding me. Basically you are admiting that once you give your money to jan-pro and they don't help you, you should go to some website from who knows where and learn from who knows who, how to do something that you paid jan-pro Thousands of Dollars for . Why even bother buying a franchise with jan-crap, hey just go to some website in the middle of who knows where. You really need to screw your head on right because you are sounding just like jan-pro management.

5. You can have all the doubts you want about us goin to trial but Me and all of the Thousands of people from around the United States of America and Canada have Faith that we will get justice. We will keep fighting until we get Justice. Many more people will also be going to there District Attorney to file criminal charges. We need to stop jan-pro from hurting so many American Families.

6. The Fdd is very hard to understand it's like reading Tax Code. Even jan-pros attorneys admited that it's Very Hard to understand. Why would jan-pros attorneys say that because it is.

7. I know of about 7 lawsuits. There could also be many more posible Lawsuits in small claim courts. I wouldn't be surprised if there was many more of those around the country. I know of 2 other lawsuits that were about to be filled but these people had so much incriminating evidence that jan-pro settled. This was some really Hard Core Incriminating evidence.

This is in responce to someone who calls himself " the voice of reason " who as we all now is someone from corporate.

1. You said that entrepeneur magazine has said that jan-pro is one of the fastest growing franchises. I can already smell the dirty toilet water. You forgot to mention how much money or how many Thousands of Dollars jan-pro spends advertising on entrepeneur magazine. There is a conflict of interest there. Maybe it's time we all call entrepeneur magazine and let them know how jan-pro Riped-us off.

2. You also forgot to mention that anyone with Chump Change can buy a jan-pro franchise. If you got $900.00 buckos they will take your money no mater who it is. The only reason they might have many franchisees is because anyone can buy one. That is not success.

3. You told us to reduce our cost to as much as posible. That is imposible when jan-pro has underbid the accounts so low that we are loosing money.

4. You sulution is for us to sell more business. However jan-pro will not show you how.

5. Simply this is a scam with Deceit and Fraud that we will prove when we go to trial.

Krussi can you please call me. I'm in the proces of taking legal action. Jerry [protected]