Loveme.com / A Foreign Affair
Reviews and Complaints

I'm really glad I went to the Philippines. I expected to meet a lot of women at the Davao socials. But personally myself, I had only written to one woman and she was the only one I invited to the socials. I attended the socials with an open mind to see if my feelings would change, and after the socials I continued to be with Jackie. I'm glad I did because she is now my fiancee. We were together for 12 days there and every moment I spent with here were amazing. I'm really happy that I found her through the site.

When I signed up, it was all about business, and they were always prompt, polite and professional. There was always a personal touch that made it all work for me. When I landed in Barranquilla, Colombia for the tour and cleared customs at 3 in the morning, there was a driver holding a sign with my name on it. Next morning, I met a wonderful interpreter who took me to the office to meet with the first of the ladies I had requested to meet. Everything went smoothly until the 3rd day. That was when I met Ruth and my life changed. Thanks to a great team in Phoenix and fantastic people in Colombia.

A Foreign Affair is a company you can put your complete trust in and rest in the knowledge that the experience you are about to embark on (should you decide to do so), will be one that you will want to remember for a long time to come. But the important thing you have to remember is, you have to be sincere in your intentions. This is not a game. You need to take this experience with an open mind, and with honest intentions. The women are real, and so you have to be. A Foreign Affair goes to great pains to make sure that your experience will be rewarding, and hopefully successful in the end. If something unexpected arises, AFA will be there to assist you. You are not going to be left to your own defenses, ever. This company has been around for almost 30 years, and has a proven track record, and complies with all state (of Arizona) and Federal laws. All you need to do is put your faith in AFA. I did, and I’m happy with my success.

I was motivated to join the Philippines tour because I love Filipino women. I find them incredibly beautiful, down-to-earth and humble. The prospect of meeting a lot of quality women and knowing that AFA was screening them gave me a measure of confidence that I was not meeting a random person and I felt that was important. When you're coming to a foreign country you wanna know that the women are vetted and screened to some degree. And AFA knows a little bit about their profiles and background. I liked that. It made me feel secure. So that was the biggest thing - my desire to meet a great Filipina.

I would definitely recommend the Colombia tour. It's organized for you, you're safe, and you're going to have a beautiful experience that you can't get on your own. AFA has all the connections with the city so you will be going to places that are interesting and then on top of that you will be meeting more sophisticated and elegant women than you could ever meet one on one anywhere else. So if you guys are looking and you're serious about finding someone that you want to establish a long-term relationship with leading to marriage, than this is definitely a place you should consider and coming to through the AFA tours.

My input and experience regarding AFA Tours, specifically to Cebu, Philippines -GO! Just GO! Do not write ANY letters unless you have a seat on a plane! No substitute for being there, no real need to waist any money writing anyone - the key factor is; You Must Be There Physically! Arrive with a list of possibilities or sort through the profiles when you get there -but you have to get there! I know because I wrote two women before I arrived on my tour. One of those women is now my Fiancee - we were engaged after our first meeting.

I found my wife to be on the Philippines tour. Meeting her in person after emailing for a few months sealed the deal for me. Everything about the tour, especially the ladies were the best and they should be proud of their organization. Everything including the hotel and service was first class and if I had to, I would go back tomorrow. These ladies really were the best and you should be proud of your organization , The hotel was as nice as any hotel in Vegas that I have stayed at ,and thats the truth They charged us for every little thing ,except maybe for the "air" we breathed , but that is their culture and we adapted . the service and food was impeccable. a real first class place to stay If I could. I would go back tomorrow John. Thank you for a great experience and the little promo that they asked me to do on tape, was sincere and true and I meant every word of this.

I want to thank this company for running such a professional organization. They made it possible for a serious guy like me to find a wife in the beautiful Philippine Islands. How I won her heart is still a mystery to me, but I am elated with the results. What an adventure life holds for those who are willing to take that first step to a truly happy and memorable life.

The socials was A1. You can’t ask for a better social than Lima, Peru. The women are breathtaking. I was dumbfounded, stunned as they were all so beautiful. Just mindboggling to see all the women there all dressed up nice, looking good. Just unbelievable. And all they want is a chance to talk and speak with the gentleman that is sincere, that really wants to be with them.

The social event was a frenzy. There's no other way to describe it. There were over 200 women, and they were literally pushing each other out of the way to talk to the guys, even average guys. It's like being a celebrity. You can't even walk across the venue without ladies stopping you and trying to take pictures with you. Everywhere you looked, there were beautiful women, and they all wanted to talk to you. I took 6 numbers that night. The ladies were literally pushing and pulling trying to get a guy at their table.

I would like to extend my heart-felt thanks to all of the individuals involved in creating this amazing experience. With so much to be done for an endeavor such as this they all handled it exceedingly well, exhibiting great professionalism and patience. Special thanks to their entire staff for a thoroughly enjoyable and memorable experience! May you continue providing international introductions into the distant future!

I've been using LoveMe.com (formerly known as AFA) for a while now and I have to say, it's been a great experience. My first trip to Ukraine was a bit nerve-wracking, but LoveMe.com made it so much easier. I didn't bother with writing letters beforehand, I just gathered up a bunch of profile numbers of ladies I was interested in and emailed them to LoveMe.com. They got back to me with a list of available ladies who were interested in meeting me based on my profile and photos. I was pleasantly surprised to find out that 60-70% of the ladies were available to meet me. The LoveMe.com office put together a daily schedule of who to meet and where, and if I needed a translator, they provided one for a cheap hourly rate.

It wasn't until my future trips that I started attending LoveMe.com's socials, and let me tell you, they are amazing. The ratio of ladies to men was at least 10:1, if not higher. It can be a bit overwhelming at first, with so many beautiful women in one room all there to meet you! Every social I've attended has included being pulled away or interrupted by other ladies trying to meet me. It's not an exaggeration. All contact info can be freely exchanged at LoveMe.com's socials, and with Skype, Viber, or email, you'll be able to communicate with the ladies you meet.

To those who left negative reviews: you need to actually use LoveMe.com and do more than just write letters. Yes, there are scammers out there, but that's true in any country. You just need to be smart and avoid the ones who are obviously after your money or just want to go out to an expensive restaurant. All of my dates start with a cup of coffee, and it's much easier to weed out the bad ones in person than it is by communicating through letters and never meeting them. And yes, all the girls use professional photos for their profiles on the website. They're trying to make a good impression on foreign men, so don't be surprised if they look slightly different in person. They're still the same girl.

At the end of the day, LoveMe.com is a business, not a non-profit organization. Long-distance dating takes time and money, but LoveMe.com is here to help. So if you're looking for love overseas, give LoveMe.com a try. You won't regret it.

I recently joined loveme.com and let me tell you, the women on this site are absolutely amazing! I was a bit skeptical at first, but after doing some research on Merry-Cherry and reading reviews on loveme.com, I decided to give it a shot.

Now, I haven't been on one of their tours yet, so my opinion may not be fully informed, but I have a pretty good feeling about it. One reviewer suggested not wasting money on writing letters and instead just making a list of the women you're interested in and adding them to your hotlist. This makes sense to me, especially since you're already spending a minimum of $3,000 on the tour.

Another reviewer mentioned that some of the profiles may not be entirely truthful and that the women may not look like their pictures or even be the same person. This is definitely something to keep in mind, but I still think the tours are worth checking out.

Here's my theory: instead of writing letters, just add the women you're interested in to your hotlist and wait for the next tour to that country. Then, find a cheap apartment or hotel room through loveme.com and arrive a week before the tour starts. Of course, you'll need to find the cheapest flight to get there first.

Before booking anything, clear it with loveme.com administrators and see if you can get a discount since you'll already be in the country. After all, they're not 100% honest (as mentioned in previous reviews), so it's worth a shot.

If you like the first tour, you can always be magnanimous and go on a second one. Just remember that trust with these types of people isn't always easy, so be cautious.

Overall, I think loveme.com is definitely worth checking out if you're interested in meeting beautiful women from around the world. Good luck, boys!

My experience with LoveMe (loveme.com) was absolutely amazing! I highly recommend going on one of their AFA Romance Tours. Trust me, there is no substitute for being there in person. Don't waste your time and money writing letters to potential matches. You need to physically be there to truly connect with someone.

Once you have your plane tickets, you can start thinking about who you want to meet. You can either arrive with a list of possibilities or sort through profiles when you get there. But the most important thing is that you have to be there! If you do decide to write to someone before you arrive, make sure to keep it short and sweet. Starting a letter with "I am coming to (Her city) on (Date)?I find your profile interesting maybe we could get to know each other a little before I arrive?" is a good format to use. If she's interested, she'll respond. But remember, no lady that is serious about a relationship wants a pen-pal or e-mail buddy. They want to see you, touch you, look into your eyes, and know you are real. And let's be honest, that's what us guys want too. No letter can do what one actual meeting can accomplish.

I personally wrote to two women before I arrived on my tour. One of those women is now my fiancée! We were engaged after our first meeting! Sometimes you write expecting her to be the one, and she's not. But in my case, the chemistry was WOW! The in-person meeting could not have been better. It exceeded both her and my wildest expectations!

I corresponded with two women who were both over forty, which was in my desired age group. But everyone has their own criteria. Just remember to stick to it and focus! It's not easy to focus with over a hundred pretty ladies and girls with bright expectant brown eyes and long black hair, all trying to get your attention! The socials are a whirlwind of fun games, laughter, talking, and meeting with every lady! It's a lot to take in, so keep notes and stay focused! You may actually find the woman of your dreams. I did.

One final note, don't sell yourself or her short! Deciding on your future partner in life for the rest of your life is not an offhand decision. It takes time and turmoil of emotions for both of you. Get to know the woman, and let her know the man. Take as much time to do that as you possibly can. Stay for the two-week tour (or longer if possible). A week or ten days fly by entirely too fast.

Overall, my experience with LoveMe was wonderful and I am thankful for it. If you're looking for love, I highly recommend giving them a try. You won't regret it!

So, I gotta say, I've never been one to buy into these kinda things, but LoveMe (loveme.com) really surprised me. I've only used the letter translation a couple times, but I gotta say, the dedication of the owners and staff is really something to behold. I've only experienced it in Cartagena, Colombia, but let me tell you, these guys really know how to put on an event.

I originally went to Colombia to try and buy an introduction agency, but after spending a few trips in the city, I became more and more interested in how the service worked. I went to the same place where they put on an event, and there were hundreds of women of all shapes, ages, and appearances. I was hooked.

Because of my passion for living in Cartagena, I relocated and lived in the city for more than two years. I opened a small internet cafe and helped a lot of the guys who came down for a tour. I did some translations and helped them find different things to do and places to eat while they were in this foreign country.

The one thing I did notice is that most of the guys I met had unrealistic expectations. They came to a foreign country as if they were coming there to save someone from their own life. Even though these women may live in a Third World country or a country that is not what you may feel equal to ours here in the United States, they still are living a good life. They just want a life with a good man.

I saw a lot of the guys that I knew come and go. Some came back, some came back many times. The one thing I can say is that they found out things that they could not find back home. LoveMe does everything that they think they need to do to keep every one of their clients safe by keeping them out of the bad spots or the places that may take advantage of them. They try to make good introductions to good women looking for good men.

The mail is a service to help make the introductions, and even though the staff is doing the translations, I have witnessed the women being in the office while the staff reads the letter to them and they send a response. There are more real women in this service than women you will find on dating websites here in the USA.

This is a good service, but you also have to understand that you can't just pick what you think is the best one to your eye and expect them to just want you back because you wrote some letter and paid for translations or took a tour there to meet them. This is a service that will help you meet a lot of beautiful women who are really interested in meeting men that want a good life together.

I just got back from a trip with LoveMe (loveme.com) to Ukraine and I gotta say, it was one of the best experiences of my life. I know some of you might be skeptical, but trust me, this is the real deal. I went on a group tour with AFA and we visited three different cities: Odessa, Nikolaev, and Kherson. At each stop, we had the chance to attend socials where we met some of the most beautiful and amazing women I've ever seen.

Now, I'm not gonna lie, I was a bit nervous at first. I mean, the ratios at these socials were insane. It was like 10 girls to every 1 guy! But let me tell you, once you get over the initial shock, it's an incredible experience. These women are looking for a good man with good family values, and they're not afraid to show it. And the best part? You're the commodity. You're the one they're all vying for.

If you're like me and you have trouble getting your nerve up, don't worry. The staff at LoveMe are amazing. They're always there to help and they'll even provide you with a translator if you need one. And trust me, you'll want to talk to these women. They're not only beautiful, but they're also kind and easy to talk to.

Overall, I couldn't have asked for a better experience. The tour exceeded my expectations in every way possible. And the staff? They went above and beyond to make sure we had a great time. So if you're thinking about going on a tour with LoveMe, my advice is simple: just do it. You won't regret it.

Hey guys,

I've been using LoveMe for a couple of weeks now and I have to say, it's been a bit of a mixed experience. While there are definitely some genuine women on the site, I'd say that around 75% of the profiles are scams. And to be honest, I think the site itself is also about 75% scammy.

So, how do you spot the scams? Well, there are a few warning signs to look out for.

Firstly, if a woman's profile only has studio photos, that's a red flag. I mean, come on, we all know that most women have a few decent selfies on their phone that they could use. If a woman's profile is full of professional shots, it's probably a fake profile.

Secondly, if a woman starts sending you lots of pictures without you even asking for them, that's another warning sign. Sure, you don't have to pay to open them, but it's still a sneaky way for the site to try and get more money out of you.

And finally, if a woman's profile says she has an email address for sale, don't bother. It's a scam. I tried emailing one woman and she never received my message. When I contacted LoveMe about it, they didn't even bother responding. Not cool.

So, how do you avoid the scams? Well, there are a couple of things you can do.

Firstly, read the profiles carefully and make sure the woman speaks a language you both have in common. And don't be fooled by women who lie about their language skills. If you can't communicate with her properly, it's not worth pursuing.

Secondly, ask the woman to verify her photos. This means she has to take a selfie holding up a sign saying "Hi, I'm XX" and attach it in the next email. It's a low-cost way to make sure she's genuine and it shows that she understands your instructions and intentions.

Overall, LoveMe can be a bit of a minefield, but if you're careful and follow these tips, you might just find someone genuine. Good luck!

I had a unique experience with LoveMe (loveme.com), formerly known as AFA, that I believe sets me apart from most others. My name is Joe and I attended LoveMe's tour to Lima, Peru several years ago. It was my first trip to South America and I was excited for a unique experience, and I was not disappointed.

Upon arriving at Lima's modern airport, I was driven to my hotel, a luxurious 21-story building in the heart of the tourist district. The hotel was safe, comfortable, and convenient, and I didn't have to worry about anything except meeting the ladies and going on dates. Supermarkets, drug stores, restaurants, and entertainment venues were all within reach.

The next morning, I walked five minutes to the LoveMe office and met several other guys on the tour and the office manager. The guys were all excited to be there and asked many questions.

Later that evening, we (the guys and translators) met on the fifth floor of the hotel for a quick orientation, then took the elevator up to the 21st floor. As soon as we stepped out of the elevator, we were face to face with dozens of beautiful Peruvian ladies, all dressed elegantly. You could tell by the way they were dressed that they took this event seriously.

As the ladies signed in and were directed to their tables in the ballroom, we stayed in the hall and talked to our translators. I talked to one lady for a few minutes and asked her to translate for me.

Finally, we were let in. You sit down at a specific table for 15-20 minutes, then a bell rings and you and the translator get up and go to the next table. I found it to be an effective system. This way, you are not allowed to hang back against a wall trying to gather your courage to approach a woman at a table. Here, you have an excuse to meet her along with the other ladies at the table. The LoveMe staff did an excellent job of keeping the guys moving from table to table.

My general style when I sat down at the table was not to quiz the girls but introduce myself and let them ask me questions and have a discussion, then see which ladies were most appealing. However, you will notice that some ladies will try to monopolize the conversation and keep your attention on her. So be aware of that and try to talk to the more shy ladies as well. During the socials, the purpose is generally to get to know which ladies you would like to take out later. I collected phone numbers, emails, and photos so I could identify them later if I forgot who it was I wanted a date with. You are meeting so many ladies at one time; it is easy to forget who is who!

The rest of the tour, I went on several dates and saw parts of the city. The LoveMe office staff was very professional and assisted with which restaurants to eat at, places to go, and helped coordinate my dates by calling the ladies and arranging times for us to meet.

On the last few days of the tour, I had a great time but hadn't met that special lady yet. But I was very satisfied with the experience and had 20 or more emails and phone numbers of ladies I planned to follow up on after I returned home.

During this time, another translator from the tour was taking me around the city and asked me to visit her language school since her students had never met an American. So we went there on the last day of the tour and there I met my future wife, Angelica. Ironically, she was at the second social, but I did not make it to her table, so I didn't meet her that night. However, at the school, she had my full attention and we hit it off quickly and started corresponding after I returned to the US. A year later, after several other trips to Peru to visit her, an opportunity arose for me to live in Peru.

Our relationship was very strong, so I moved there and we were engaged several months later.

Living in Peru wasn't as different as one might imagine. Along with my future wife, I had other people assisting me in finding an apartment, learning the culture, and keeping up to date with travel visa requirements. If you have a good grasp of Spanish, you will find that life is generally 80% the same as in the US. People get up, go to work, come home to their families at night, and do recreational things during the weekend. People make less there, but many things are much cheaper, and the expense of one or more cars is not necessary since public transportation is cheap and widespread.

We now live in the states, although we would not mind moving back to Peru at some point. It was a great experience for me, it obviously changed my life, and I would recommend the tour to anyone.

Hey guys, I just got back from the Cartagena, Columbia Tour with LoveMe and let me tell you, it was an experience of a lifetime! I'm not the tour leader, but luckily I was joined by Ken, who has done this many times, so I felt like I was in good hands.

I spent my time at the airport working on my Spanish and trying to forget my Russian. I knew I would slip up more than once, but I was excited to arrive in Cartagena and get familiar with my surroundings. The socials were held on Friday and Saturday nights, and I was interested to learn that the ladies were only permitted to attend one or the other, so there would be a new group to meet on Saturday.

The LoveMe office was great, with a manager and several girls who work there. Everyone spoke English, so there was no problem communicating. What I noticed was that they really wanted to get to know me and what I was looking for. As I spoke, I saw them taking notes. What I learned is that they were attempting to identify ladies I might be interested in.

The socials were a blast! The beautiful girls were seated at numbered tables, and we were all assigned a translator and went from table to table in an organized fashion. This activity was very pleasant. At the end of an hour or so, we all had met each of the ladies present. If one of the clients was interested in a lady, it was a simple matter to let your translator know and a date could be arranged.

The next day, the office manager had several girls who were not at the social that she suggested I have a date with. I agreed and had a great time the rest of the day with several beautiful girls who were eager to show me their city.

Now it was Saturday and time for the second social. Remember, this was a completely new set of girls to meet. The process was the same and I circulated from table to table. I must admit that I was a bit disappointed that I had not met a girl that especially interested me. However, while I was sitting at the very last table, a girl and her friend arrived late. She sat next to me and I was delighted. We began to chat with the help of my translator and danced the rest of the evening. I asked her if she would like to meet the next day and she said yes.

Well, when we met the next day it was clear to me and my translator that we felt the same about each other. It was great. Although the manager had several dates lined up for me, I had to decline as I wanted to spend my time with Lina. Her picture is included.

Although this was a seven day tour, I spent the rest of the time with her. Normal AFA wisdom would say that I should have dated as many girls as possible, but we really enjoyed each others company. I wanted to know as much as possible about her and life in Columbia. She felt the same about myself and life in America.

However, all good things must come to an end. She accompanied me to the airport. It was sad to depart and she cried.

We are still friends on Skype and Facebook and communicate often. I must admit that there is a difference in our ages. For this reason it probably would not work, although this did not concern her.

Perhaps, I will have the opportunity to visit her again. We both would enjoy that.

The lesson for you is simple: nothing will happen unless you travel to the country of your choice. Letters are fine, but they will never take the place of meeting face to face as I learned. I have many friends who did this and met their one and only and are happily married. So, if you're looking for love, take a chance and book a tour with LoveMe. You never know who you might meet!

LoveMe (loveme.com) is a website that offers tours for people who are interested in finding love abroad. The company has been in business for a long time and they know how to operate the tours professionally. They make sure that their clients have a great time and feel like they have experienced a trip of a lifetime.

There are a few things that you need to know before using LoveMe's services. Firstly, the company provides a service that is intended for entertainment purposes only. This means that they do not guarantee anything and they are not responsible for any of the services provided by their foreign affiliate agencies. Secondly, LoveMe does not do any background checks on the women profiled on their service. This means that there are no quality control procedures in place at all.

LoveMe contracts with third-party foreign affiliate agencies in order to provide a high number of new profiles on their website each week. By using the service, you agree to hold LoveMe harmless, as well as its directors, employees, and affiliates, for any of the services provided by affiliate agencies. LoveMe does not recommend that you travel to visit any of the women based solely on their letters or correspondence. If you take a serious interest in one particular woman, LoveMe is not interested in arranging just one meeting. You must either book yourself on a tour or purchase a 'Club' package that is valid for one destination city for a minimum of 7 days.

All introduction letters sent to your inbox are distributed to multiple men, hundreds at a time. Some letters will look generic, while others will actually address you by name. These are all attempts by LoveMe and their foreign affiliate offices to pressure you into answering. Do not be fooled into thinking that the letter is personalized to you. It is not. LoveMe's own advice published on their website contradicts all this nonsense by discouraging you from opening and answering the 'speculative' letters from the 'affiliate' offices.

From time to time, LoveMe holds public events such as socials. However, it is unlikely that the ladies you are particularly interested in will attend. LoveMe is not liable for theft of database information, so you are using the site at your own risk. LoveMe does not warrant that your use of the site will be secure, be error-free, meet your requirements, or that any defects in the service or site will be corrected.

Despite having an Affiliate Program Manager based at their Phoenix office, LoveMe permits foreign affiliates to totally control the content uploaded to the system. Dubious profiles that may be fake or misleading can and often do appear on the site. LoveMe strongly urges you to purchase one of their tours if you are serious about finding a partner. However, they permit published profile content uploaded by a foreign affiliate and state in their terms that they cannot be held responsible for anything at all.

There are hundreds of foreign affiliates out there, and LoveMe has no control over the corruption that happens on a daily routine in countries such as Ukraine and Russia. LoveMe has no quality control procedure in place to prevent it. Hence why their terms and conditions state that when using the online service, you agree to hold LoveMe harmless, as well as its directors, employees, and affiliates, for any of the services provided by their foreign affiliate agencies.

In conclusion, LoveMe is a website that offers tours for people who are interested in finding love abroad. However, there are a few things that you need to know before using their services. They provide a service that is intended for entertainment purposes only, and they do not do any background checks on the women profiled on their service. LoveMe contracts with third-party foreign affiliate agencies, and they do not recommend that you travel to visit any of the women based solely on their letters or correspondence.

This was started by Kenneth Agee, John Adams and Ron Redburn and to begin with they are DECEPTIVE because their name is misleading because its says "A Foreign Affair" meaning that it supposed to concern the whole of Europe for Sex Tours and I have been on there tours which 70% of all the woman they invite are known to be Prostitutes from the streets of Ukraine. China, South America, and the Philippians. Their site actually concerns just part of Europe, Ukraine, and China, South America and the Philippians. I guess for them that means Europe is made up of just one country! This site was named so because the owners think other "Foreign Affairs" that don't come from their own country are cheap and inferior ones and only ones that do come from Europe are the superior ones! Again here is where they are misleading and so if you connect with an American, Canadian, South American, etc well guess what your connection for them is inferior!

Now here is where they become truly deceptive because when one joins their site and you begin talking with the site owners about your needs (which are not ridiculous needs but sensible needs like for e.g. advice) the site owners actually are known to refuse to help you. This has happened with several on several occasions!

It has been known that if you point out to them in a nice way the problem of their refusal to help you with what you have asked them simply to do they act arrogantly, refuse to apologize and correct their mistake, and they will actually cancel your membership with the site without your knowledge or agreement. Here is their unfairness or prejudice!

The 3 owners of this site have been found guilty of such actions, they make not claim to do background checks on their ladies as well as the men who take there trips. They try not to find a wife for you, they are more interested in having you take there sex tours over and over again.

Even if one tries to reach them again for restoration of one's membership they will not respond to one's email or attempts to reach them. Again Wickedness!

You see here is where their trickery and skills in trapping other is because they want individuals to book tours with them even if you don't really get any results on the tour they get to pocket your money and you do it without complaining. In other words you become their obedient lackey and "suckup" because you fear them booting you off their site and not taking you one any of their "tours" where you might not even find success on these tours anyway! This is why one finds these "suckups" on their site who see wrong on the site and with John Adams and his so called wife who by the way he treats more like a slave then a wife.

Their arrogance is however today exposed and those who say that they are "real" are not saying the truth that they are indeed real at being wicked, arrogant and also deceptive!