Ultimate4Trading
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Yes, i agree with other users off Ultimate4trading it is a scam, at first i thought it was real.
But after doing a few trades i realised it was a scam, they talk you into investing then say if you invest this amount they would increase the amount with bonuses. They don't say that if you invest £1000 for example that you have to do £12, 500 before the bonuses come off and your allowed to keep them. I too tried to get my money out but could not as the site keeped freezing up, or if you tried to do a trade it would freeze up.
The bottom line is that the site is a scam

too good to be true all information & reviews are made by themselves

Compare http://www.ultimate4trading.net/Home/AboutUs and http://preditrend.com/Home/AboutUs

This is complete scam these guys won price on start-up365.com. I’ve done some back ground research into Cooper Washington his know where to be found . No Facebook, LinkedIn or twitter accounts. The domain name start-up365.com was created to promote Ultimate4Trading.
I hope the information below will help

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Reall sorry to hear of your potential loss - please keep us updated..

I spent about two hours with the demo today and made a little over $5000 with very little effort and very little thought, my last twelve "bets" all won and I was "betting" max dollars, owe how I wish it was real money and I admit I am tempted to try it for real but as they saw if it is too good to be true then it probably is and it is very suspicious how all the google hits come back looking like it is all created by ultimate4trading.

Black hole-better to throw your money down the drain..do your due diligence first

One youtube testimonial even has the comments disabled.. Some people will say anything for a fast buck .She should be jailed.

Totally agree it's a scam and almost certainly fraud as well. Have tested their model against real time and their model is not always accurate. It reports wins when the real time screens show it couldn't be a win. Any dealer/broker. worth their salt could work this out in a short period of time. Why does it take so long for these sites to be taken down and banned.
Derek Cossey NZ

I have traded in 3 weeks my DEMO acc from $500 to over $50000 and am am not kicking myself yet for not having traded earlier for real but am on the cusp of doing so with a nominal amount ..By the way, Thank you John Cross? and Co for introducing me to Binary Options Trading which I had never heard of before but is a learning curve and a new world.The dynamics of it really suit my personality and if I can become fiscally independant all to the good.But it is very interesting doing all the research esp on Youtube...No sign of John Cross or U4T on Linkedin or Companies house ...mmmmmmm slow but sure I think but hey -lots of others to look at and hone the skills of Caveat Emptor -Buyer Beware !

I started with $200 and lost it in about 1 hour, these were mostly traded on the 60 Seconds trades. I opened another account to trade the demo account and this doubled from $500 to more than $1, 000 in one afternoon. Traded mostly Binary as the 60 Seconds also made losses. I then deposited another $100 and traded binaries which guess what got wiped out in 3 hours or so. Sure there are a few wins in between, but my experience on live accounts have been more like a 25% win rate. I have noted the following: (1) When comparing my demo account and live account if get different trades with different number of people in the trade if Put on a Item and Call on the same item in the different accounts; (2) A trade can be listed as a Put and before that trade expires it will change to a Call. I must say having the weekly winners list makes it very enticing the try again and again (Scam 101). With regards to being able to withdraw I have not had the privilege of experiencing that. To summarize, I may have been unlucky with my trades, but the fact that I don't have a consistent view between different accounts to me is very alarming.

Hello.
I don't have experience on the real version. I used the demo and got 78% success from 117 trades.
Did you attempt with the demo version as well or only the real one?
Question:
Did you try to withraw money back to your own bank account? I'm worried that this is a scam and the money can't be withrawn back to your account.

To me It's suspicious that you can't add comments to any of their Youtube videos or websites, dont you?

Where is the forex not scam ?
Thx

This is outrageous! I saw the ad for this scam on Forbes!
here is the screenshot:
http://pasteboard.co/1yX3fiLN.jpg
When a supposedly legitimate website like Forbes insults it's users by assuming them naive and posting such ads, we should report Forbes more than such scams.
I've reported that on
https://complaint.ic3.gov/default.aspx
please you do the same

I invested working funds to trade using the Ultimate4trading bot but subsequently after trading I realised I had been scammed. I established that the system will block a realy good trade request by either resetting the page and converting a put to a call or call to a put when the page reloads. or it presents a message "Transaction Failed, Try Again" And you try again and again.

I eventually complained to EZTrader on 18 March 2016 and requested the return of the balance of my funds in my account. Now after almost a month I am still waiting. EZTrader has closed my account with them, preventing me logging in to monitor my funds balance and transfer which I suspect will never happen.

My advice is to keep away from this company.

100% SCAM.
A link from "The Verge" got me to the website, and there is a tiny bar at the bottom of the webpage reading "This is an advertorial, the participants are actors and there is no startup and/or algorithm.". Crystal clear, it's all made up to trick people.
I include a screenshot here. Notice I shrinked the window so the footer is easier to spot, as well as the top "advertisement" label.

Dear reader

I would like to give my feed back on Ultimate4trading.
After watching http://www.start-up365.net/ interview on Ulimate4trading.
I tried up with the demo with $500 and profited up to $7000 plus easily.
The winning rate is about 70 to 80%.
I transferred real money of $400 and got an extra of $200 as bonus, so total is $600.
I began trading and within a few hour i lost all the money.
The loosing rate was about 70%.
In between that few hours i took break to see is there different in the loosing rate, but no different.
I was careful by trading small amount of $10 to $25 most of the time, but the loosing rate was to high.
I printed the screen of the trade i did.
I can transfer all the images to you if you gave me a link to do so.
If you see the images, you will believe what i just said.

Best Regards

This is a scam. They just started a french version preditrend.com . This is exactly the same site than ultimate4trading.net except the students are different. Compare ; http://preditrend.com/Home/AboutUs and http://www.ultimate4trading.net/Home/AboutUs .
The wining award price is on a fake tv show : startupF5.com All the videos are on youtube.
Behind this scam is eztrader.com, a broker based in Cyprus.

Yesterday I gave my details and bank details to use the demo. After I used a couple of times I though that it was weird on the 60 second trade, at the end of the trade shown that it was losing but when you go to the end trades shown that you won then I searched and I saw about the scam. Yeah, someone called me after I registered my details but I didn't take the call. I didn't deposit any money but I am getting worry if they could take any money from my card without authorization because they have all the card details. Could they take any money?

sorry to hear it, I had no intention of trading but the way they got into my email account by taking a name from my address book and using it to get my attention and not be added to the spam list straight away, I thought was smart so I did not click on the link (never click on the link) but I typed there name into a search engine and I see that they have tried to fill up the first page with reviews from themselves to make it look like they are ligit so they have gone to some lengths to pull this off so do not be too hard on yourself - like yourself I see that they are reviewing the posts on their facebook page and that is a warning in itself. There are loads more reasons like it being impossible to predicts the stock market from literally one minute to the other, that should have been enough for you right there but in future I am sure you will never give you bank details again and if you do set up an account with no money and that gives you nothing but the basic service so if you do give it out to a free trial there is no chance of being robbed.

Black hole...

Hello all I'm sorry to say this appears to be a scam. I thought I was protecting myself by not completing the Id process, I had some trouble with some of the information they were requesting and ask for the reason to be clarified. Well when to bank accounts the next day to find they had misappropriated funds to the tune of $418.00 from my account, it appear their Fraud and Money Laundering process doesn't protect you the consumer from them. I'm up to day 10 last day of promised refund, last response from Eztrader was it would be another 7-10 day. I have included Ulitame4trading in this process and the other day ask both companies to provide the name, phone number, and email address of a reasonable and responsible person, so as to proved accountability. I asked Uiltame4trading to take a active role in the process.
The Silents from both companies today has been deafening!
Should be noted that the page I was supplying a detail daily update on seems to have disappeared from Facebook and comments leaved on the Eztrader Facebook page are review prior to being allowed to be posted so I'm fairly certain that my daily update will not appear on their Facebook page. This says a lot about the company!
Be warn

ultimate4trading 100% scam. i get more win in demo. but in real, it give me huge loss. ez trader is scam broker, you can not withdrawal your money

Its a scam. The demo always allows you to win. I tried to open a account. it asked me to deposit £200 to open an account then asked me to verify my account after they rejected my documents and then would not give back my money:( they do not write back to emails or make any representation

Also trading under different names in France and Spain...
http://www.ultimate4trading.net/StepsA/Index?AffiliateID=8985
http://www.trading30elode.com/StepsA/Index?AffiliateID=11223
http://www.preditrend.com/StepsA/Index?AffiliateID=11212

The Demo is like confirmation that the Big Bang is proven beyond doubt -money keeps expanding - The real money trading proves Black Holes don't have to be in space...

This set up puts even Stephen Hawkings theories to shame - It can draw money in faster than any black hole!

The demo allows you to win as it has software bugs in it - losses are shown as profits ----the real time software is a different thing all together it has the odds stacked against you ---- have tried both versions -made a complaint - and withdrew my money after a small loss. I also complained about a trade which was a tie but marked as a loss - didn't get a refund - also the real time software eztrader- is very slow and it seems to blocking some of your winning trade ---- seems like a scam

Hi all, i used the demo system and earnt $25, 000 in a matter of hours - i then invested $200 into the system, they inturn gave me an additional $100 bonus. Which sounds great. However within 1 hour i have lost the lot. In both systems i used the 60 second bidding. Goodluck to all those who choose to give it a go. Cheers

One of the most bizarre things I have ever seen. I would say how could anyone be so stupid as to fall for it except I lost some money myself in a scam a while back.

This is a mad binary bot, I think it might have potential if used as a coin toss, just that this one has 75% probability to be right, not 50%. What I did on demo account was really impressive, I wish it worked like that on a real account, maybe somebody can share the same experience too, demo account starts with 500, so I put on 10 trades straight away, and what do you think, the balance went to 700, then I repeated same actions all over again and in less than 30 mins I had over 30k balance. I wish it was that easy with real account, of course maybe somebody can try to do that and report here on their success or failure

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