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First let me say this- Wynless sales will tell you ANYTHING to make you buy. Here's what C. Foreman, my coordinator, tricked me with; Incident = Was talked into $29k timeshare purchase to consolidate 2 previous purchases which are paid for. Only because this salesman/coordinator said a first right of refusal could be exercised and Wyndham would buyback timeshare if needed. Also that he would help with rental if needed. After months of trying to contact him, he gave me a referral to an online rental site.
Damage Resulting = Papers signed 3/28/2010. Last day of job layoff. Since payments went into effect last spring, my checking account was in dreadful shape. Borrowing from life savings to make payments of $590/month, now increased to 689. Then in November 2010, started collecting Social Security at 62. This is helping somewhat. But work may again slow causing layoff. Then what? Visited 3 lawyers to ask about Chapter7. 2 hadn't really reviewed my situation and were willing to file. the 3rd told me that the bankruptcy would be rejected because if the CC debt and timeshare were relieved I'd have a positive income balance.
Bought Wyn TS at sales an was told it could be sold back to Wyn. And coordinator would help with rental until then. Went to next sales and heard same, 650 miles away. THEY DO TALK TO EACHOTHER. Next sales, asked flat out about "right of first refusal" buyback. My 1st sales coordinator told me to especially meet with this sales, now 1300 miles away, he'd take care of me. This one told me there's no "right" but if I purchased he'd help me rent. Called me back several times and told me that he already had a renter, just buy. In the meantime we visited Atlantic City and sales told us we could get in WAAM for $11k plus costs. All along I'd wondered if Wyn rents to Moe Larry and Curly. They do. Making it tough to get reservations. The 2nd sales meet was in Myrtle Bch. and in Sept. Oceans on the Grove was shown to us and I wondered who were all the people staying at this beautiful location? RENTERS! Owners wouldn't have access until mid October.
Does anyone have any suggestions as to how we can get out of this situation?
Update=it's been a month since I talked to the 1st lawyer and the Bar Assoc. referral service recommended him. $35 fee. He recommended bankruptcy but call for deed in lieu of foreclosure. I did and was told by the financial representative that a deed in lieu would be available after 190 days. Informed the lawyer and he asked why so long a wait? From reading other forums I told him that was the standard length. The lawyer and assistant conferred and told me the best thing to do would be to file bankruptcy. Wyndham could sue me during that time. With spotless credit, although I owe $11k in credit card debt, I'm wondering if the lawyer is on the level to earn a higher fee of $1500 or if Wyndham is on the level and will send the paperwork for a deed in lieu? If I were to recoup some of the TS cost I could pay off the CCs.
When Wyndham consolidated the first 2 contracts, I'd get nothing that I've spent back in chapter 7. So it looks like a deed in lieu is not worth waiting for. Especially if risking a lawsuit from Wynless.
C. foreman may you eternally suffer a fate worse than death.
They've run a credit check everytime I've attended an account update/review/sales meeting. Is your income high enough? Are you credit worthy? If you're an owner I love the way they give you a special sales representative. Er- they're not sales, and make you wait after everyone else.
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HUGE SCAM! WYNDHAM IS THE WORST! I sat through a presentation with them with a promise of free money. I was not dumb enough to buy into this totally scam. However I was asked for my ssn# told i could not get my free gift if i did not give that information after over 3 hours of being harassed to buy something. I find that WYNDHAM without my knowledge ran my credit report. Im still not sure why. I did get my free $90 gift but was not worth my time or credit as everyone knows your credit score goes down the more your report is requested. These people racially profile during this presentation and pick what they think are the best people to buy or get sucked into this scam. I witnessed a sales person come in the room checking the name tags of the people that they forced to check in. They have about 100 people pushing to sell you something. When it comes down to getting your free gift they only have 2 people at that counter. PLEASE whatever you do don't get sucked into the scam that is WYNDHAM. Totally scam! It really amazes me how these people are still in business and are still legally allowed to conduct business this way. If a nice lady asked if you want free tickets for a show or free cash simply by sitting through a presentation please whatever you do say no and don't be polite because these people are not if you dont get sucked into their scam.
Wow, sounds similar to my situation. (same location) I was sold on upgrading thinking the rental income process would be handled by Ron and that it's his job to save us money through that option. We were convinced that his job was to handle getting us the highest rent for 100, 000 points. We went for this thinking the rent would offset the increase in payment. It's taken him weeks to let me know how to get started with the rental income. He seldomly returned my calls and if he did it would be to say, he can't talk but wanted me to know that he would call back to discuss the whole rental option and then would not call back Come to find out, its not his job to make us rental income. It's my job. I was mislead. During the meeting he would say things like let me work for you; I get my clients $4000 for a 4, 000 weekly rental; ect.
Shawnee is now a scam, talk to Jackie Miller, or any staff, they all lie there #15 out of 6790 townships in PA with no employment, Shawnee owns the place windham manages all of it, the name of the game is don't trust any of them, college kids get summer jobs that all come with and ego, windham is distoryng Shawnee, DON:T buy a time share and points are a joke if your loaded have fun with all the bugs, it's really the employes, no 1 knows what to do, new rules pop up when they want, the owners need a lawyer for a action law suit, theres $ to be made help get windham out, they done this before to another timeshare place, and paid 10 million to settle with all the owners, we need a good lawyer who wants to make a mil
I'm so thankful to all of you.
I had a telemarketing rep. call me to sell me timeshare.
Because I was able to come here and see all of your complaints, I turned down the rep.
Again, thank you. Please keep reporting rip-off companies.
I always key-in "scam" and the company name to search for scams. It has saved me many times.
Fred