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Wyndham Vacation Ownership review: deceptive sales methods and fraud 6

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Wyndham has consistently refused to resolve this complaint, opting rather to call the US Navy Chief Petty Officer making the complaint a liar:

On April 4, 2008 while visiting Wyndham’s Governor’s Green resort we attended a sales presentation conducted by Wyndham salesperson Henry Wilkerson. We were promised that the presentation would take only 90 minutes, but by the time it was concluded it lasted much longer. In fact it lasted four hours. We had our children with us who are 10 and one year old. At the end of the presentation, Mr. Wilkerson knew they and their frustration distracted us. Our baby, just a year old, was very fussy while we were attempting to sign the documents. We were tired, hungry, overburdened with information and ready to leave by the time we were signing our contracts. We now understand that this was by design. We believe that we were purposely hurried through the contract signing specifically in order to keep us from reading it more carefully.

It has, in fact, taken us over a year to discover that our contract is defective. We have been able now to compare our contract with those of other owners and we are missing vital parts of the contract that were never copied for us. We never received a copy of the document required by the Department of Housing and Urban Development—the Settlement Statement. We never received any notarized documents such as a Mortgage Deed or Deed in Trust. We are therefore ignorant of the specific duties assigned to us and of those assigned to Wyndham. It would seem to us that the contract is invalid on this one point alone. While someone might contend that we signed the documents, the signing was conducted by the representative in such a way that they seemed not to be of great importance. We trusted the Wyndham representatives to include all the necessary documents and we would not know how to identify any missing documents in any case. As we’ve already mentioned, we were under a great deal of stress from our children and from being hungry that our judgment was definitely impaired and Henry Wilkerson knew it.

Mr. Wilkerson promised that he would personally help us to move points from year to year into Wyndham’s rental program “Extra Holidays” in the event that we should not be able to make our payments. Everyone pays for their maintenance with this program, he said. He told us that we should not worry, that enough money could be made to make payments and take care of the maintenance payments as well. Our maintenance payments are $77.49 and our monthly payments are $412.68—so we were led to believe that renting out our points would earn that much. This was especially relevant in our discussion with Mr. Wilkerson as we informed him that due to military obligations, we would be unable to take advantage of the points ourselves for the first two years of our ownership. He told us not to worry, we’d be making money until we could use the points and we’d retain our VIP status as well. This was not true.

Henry continually assured us that this purchase was a sound financial investment. That its value would increase if we ever wanted to sell it. He promised that we’d be getting a tax break because this was a real property purchase—we could write off the interest and property taxes even though they’re included in our maintenance fees.

Presidential suites were to be available to us and we could still travel three to four weeks every year on the points that we were purchasing. This would be possible because Mr. Wilkerson promised to help us “work the system” to our advantage. He promised to be the person we should go to with any problems or questions we had concerning using the program. Henry showed us the point conversion chart in the RCI book and told us that we could travel anywhere, anytime we wanted for a “blue studio week.” Because Wyndham owns RCI, he said, we could stay at any Wyndham resort for a week for the same number of points that it took to get a “blue studio week” which we now know is 28, 000 points. We also know that this is not possible.

We would be able to transfer points from one year to the next according to Mr. Wilkerson. He would be available to help us with this, he said, all we had to do was call. Available, is what Mr. Wilkerson was not—ever. We later learned that what Mr. Wilkerson had promised is entirely contrary to Wyndham’s policies.

We specifically told Mr. Wilkerson that we would not, because of my Permanent Change of Station orders with the U.S. Navy, be able to use the first 2 years’ points or the bonus points. Mr. Wilkerson and his manager both assured us that this did not matter—our VIP status would be permanent and we could start using our points whenever we were ready. We were also informed that our bonus points would be reserved for us. Mr. Wilkerson specifically told us that our points would just “roll over” to the next year and to the next until we had accumulated a huge number of points for a big vacation when it came time after the two years. This was not true.

We indicated that we were ready to leave but were told that the price we were being offered was only good for that day. It was a special price offered to us only on the day that we took the tour. We were told that we absolutely had immediately to make up our minds concerning a purchase that would eventually cost our family more than $50, 000 plus maintenance fees. There was no time to “think about it.” After investigation, we found that the price we received was no different than those offered to any other.

In summary, Mr. Wilkerson and his manager made promises that misrepresented the program. Every time we indicated that we needed to attend to the children or that we were all hungry, we were told to “hang on for one more minute.” They knew we were being worn down emotionally and physically and needed to attend to our children. So they knew we were under duress when we signed the contract. The contract was not explained to us and the provisions were covered only in the most cursory manner. We didn’t know until recently that the contract was deficient and that the promises made to us by Mr. Wilkerson were false.

To be sure, Wyndham has a rental program called Extra Holidays, but were we were not informed that 40% commission was charged. We were specifically told that we’d be able to make enough money to make payments and never have to pay maintenance fees. We were told that Mr. Wilkerson would be available to help us arrange the rentals and he is not. We have been informed that the role of sales people ends at the point of sale. After that it appears we are on our own. These methods of securing a sales commission were deceptive and fraudulent; they caused us to suffer loss.

Update by Jim in Texas
May 30, 2009 11:04 pm EDT

Wyndham still refuses to settle this one amicably. So complaints are going to official agencies.

Update by Jim in Texas
Jul 20, 2009 9:29 am EDT

I would love to hear from you. Wyndham is still resisting this one. somebonus@yahoo.com

Update by Jim in Texas
Sep 23, 2009 12:01 pm EDT

THIS COMPLAINT HAS BEEN SUCCESSFULLY RESOLVED. THE OWNER HAS HAD THE CONTRACT CANCELED AND RECEIVED A REFUND OF OVER $19, 000. THEY ARE READY TO PROVIDE REFERENCES.

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Update by Jim in Texas
Sep 23, 2009 12:15 pm EDT

Make sure to check your Wyndham contracts. Did you get a copy of EVERY DOCUMENT YOU SIGNED?

somebonus@yahoo.com

Update by Jim in Texas
Sep 23, 2009 12:20 pm EDT

AND Mr. Wilkerson, conveniently, no longer works for Wyndham...

Update by Jim in Texas
Dec 30, 2010 4:37 pm EST

This was indeed a heartbreaker for me.

Update by Jim in Texas
Dec 30, 2010 4:38 pm EST

You can check out my site at www.mywyndhamlawsuit.com for more info.

Update by Jim in Texas
May 07, 2009 12:11 am EDT

In August of 2007, Mr and Mrs. S from Florida visited Maui, Hawaii and took in a Wyndham timeshare sales presentation. Their salesman was Brian Alazawi. Their complaint is outlined below. Wyndham has been typically non-responsive:

"1. RESALE AND INVESTMENT VALUE
We were told that because the Waikiki Beach location was new, that it would immediately have a high resale value. Brian Alazawi said that this would be a sound financial investment for us, saying we could always get our money back through and then some from resale. This is simply not true.
2. FUTURE RESORTS
We were told that one of the reasons that it would be good for us to own was that Wyndham had plans to build a resort on Maui, soon. We would have access to this with our Hawaii points while others would not. This was a misrepresentation.
3. PERSONAL COORDINATOR
Brian Alazawi claimed that he would always be assigned to our account to help us with the program. We later found that this is not the case.
4. BUYING RESALE POINTS TO REACH VIP
If we wanted to achieve VIP later, Brian told us, we could buy points on the resale market to get that status. He said that we could become Platinum VIPs for less than $10, 000 at Bonnet Creek, if we first purchased there at Maui. We later found that this was untrue.
5. EXTRA HOLIDAYS RENTALS
Brian told us that we could rent out our points that would earn us enough money to pay our maintenance fees and make extra money as well. This was part of why this purchase was a great investment and was an incentive for us to buy it. We have found that this is not possible.
6. EVERY OTHER YEAR MISREPRESENTATION
We purchased an every other year program, which gave us a deed for 115, 500 points. Brian told us that we shouldn’t worry about this, that we’d be able to travel to Hawaii for a week every year by banking half our points through RCI. We have found out now that we cannot get Hawaii weeks in this way. He also said we’d be able to travel to any of Wyndham’s resorts in any location for a week for 28, 000 points, so we’d get more than just one week every other year.
7. TAX WRITE OFF
We were told that buying a timeshare was a tax advantage; that it was like owning a second home and we’d benefit by writing off our mortgage interest.
8. NO PUBLIC OFFERING STATEMENT
We have talked to other owners who we have seen with books that describe their resort and contain floor plans. Apparently, this is a document that is supposed to be a part of our purchase. We have never received a public offering statement for this resort.
9. RIGHT TO REVIEW AND RESCIND OUR CONTRACT SUBVERTED
Before we were to receive our ‘gifts’ and immediately after our documents were signed, Brian and his manager packaged up our documents and marched Scott to the Post Office where they paid to have our documents sent to our home in Florida. They said that way they’d be there safely waiting for us. We arrived in Hawaii on the 18th of August and purchased on the 27th. We did not arrive home until the 2nd of September. We reviewed our documents and read that the rescission period had expired on the 31st of August. They withheld our gifts until this mailing was complete.
10. HAWAII POINTS NEEDED TO STAY IN HAWAII
We were told that in order to stay in any of the Wyndham resorts in Hawaii we had to own points in Hawaii. Not only that, but that our points “traded” better and were more valuable in gaining access to mainland resorts."

Beware of false promises and claims by timeshare salespersons.

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Heather Indiana
Evansville, US
May 31, 2009 10:43 pm EDT

GLAD TO SEE SOMEONE IS LOOKING INTO THIS. THANK GOODNESS FOR JIM IN TX TO HELP THOSE WHO GOT IN OVER THIR HEADS. WHAT A SCAM THIS IS!

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Brian Alazawi
Honolulu, US
Jul 09, 2009 3:23 am EDT

I know Brian Alazawi personally and agree that he works his scam at every job, family and personal relationships. It is his practiced lifestyle.

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SarahinAK
Anchorage, US
Oct 02, 2009 4:08 pm EDT

We had a similar experience dealing with this individual on the phone. He claimed to be a supervisor but could not even get me a simple phone number

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DJ Navarre
ladson, US
Nov 23, 2009 3:01 pm EST

You are so correct. My husband and I was lied to straight to our face. They told us to try the timeshare and if we didnt like it we can cancel it and it will not affect our credit! It was a straight up lie! We tried to book a few vacations and each time, it was not available, so eventually we stopped making payments and recently we found that we were told a big lie. Just furious because we worked hard to maintain our credit and we hate to have it tainted to some scammers! we need to do a class action suit

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Navy CPO
Hampton, US
Dec 30, 2010 5:06 am EST

This story is about my family. We stopped paying, made all the right contacts, tried military law, tried to explain what happened. We still don't know what is going on. Don't know if it's cancelled. I'm sure Wyndham will be really proud of what they do to my credit. Jim's a guy fighting a good fight. I'll follow a class action suit any day, just don't know how or have the time to start it. Wyndham's corrupt "leadership" and salesmen will burn in hell for what they're doing now. It's ironic...I'm fighting for their freedom to screw my family and I. How messed up is that?

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tosean
US
Jan 01, 2011 9:54 pm EST

I found this post looking for a way to help my 80+ year old grandmother out of two timeshares with Wyndham that total over $2000 a month. She has one that cost $370 a month and another that costs $1230 a month and then about $550 a month in maintenance fees. Somehow the two contracts are separate but the maintenance fees are tied together. She is behind on the maintenance fees so she can't use either property but she still has to pay the monthly bill on the two properties. This makes no sense! I have tried to call and reason with these people, or get her service trimmed back. I have never owned a timeshare so I don't understand the finer points of it but I am getting a copy of those contracts and taking them to the family lawyer so I can get a clear understanding of her options. Sidenote: The entire I was in the Navy, my CPO's pushed the fact that we should never sign anything without having it looked over by a lawyer. It's one of the best things I learned, if they won't let you take the contract to get looked over by a lawyer it is probably a scam.

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