Goldicq International
Reviews and Complaints

I've ordered online game currency of 2600M, which is worth $1702.05 CAD on Sep 1. Their live chat operator instructed me to answer a phone call, verify my identity with a text message, and has requested a picture of my identification and along with the payment card used for the transaction all to confirm my identity and verify that I am the one purchasing the order. I can send of sent emails to their email address. After wasting my time with this process, they told me that they cannot accept such large amounts of payment from Paypal (even tho they have the option to buy even more currency up to 5000M which is worth $2400 USD) when they are the ones who listed Paypal as their main option. They should've NEVER listed Paypal as one of the payment options available on their website and list items with a price tag too large for them to process. They've refunded my money through Paypal after wasting about an hour of my time to verify my identity for an order that they cannot even process. $1702.05 CAD has already been charged to my card and I've essentially lost the money during the time it takes for the bank to process it. The refund process takes couple days during which I don't have access to such a large sum of money. They first wasted my time asking me to verify my identity and then refused to process the order and forcibly refunded the payment, wasting my time even further. I wasted time verifying my identity so that my order could be processed and now I have to waste more time waiting for the refund to be posted to my card all because of their shady practices. I will not just let them get away with wasting so much of my time and money. They should've never asked me to verify my identity if they were not even going to process the order and should've never sold items worth large sums of money and list Paypal in their payment options. I will not accept this b*ll[censored] practice from them and demand a compensation.

Waited an entire month to deliver with various excuses. Eventually I gave up because they would not issue a refund. I'm now in a chargeback situation with paypal. They will not refund me unless I send them another 400 dollars through my bank. They are scammers and ALL positive reviews are probably fake or some rare situation where they held up to their promise.

Pick another site, these guys are literally the worst. I paid them 400 dollars. I may never get it back. I feel like an IDIOT.

Sorry ahead for my english
I ordered gold in Revelation online, it was 5k.
So when I entered the websait I was amazed by the prices and their promise for 8min until 24 hours delivery.
This is the date when I ordered my gold: 18 Jul 2017, 14:44.
Now is 23 july 2017 17:06 and everytime
when im asking what about my gold im receiving that annoying answer, that was copy pasted of-course, the supplier is offline, please wait a bit more and we will call or send you an email.
None of does things happened after 2 days so I asked for a refund, most of the times they were avoiding it by saying that they are sorry or dont worry you will get your gold.
Anyways if any of you is really interested I can provide this all conversation trough pictures, ofc I SS everything.

ps: few days passed the are converting my order from 5000k to 3800k already. I got 1000k tho and prolly wont see any other, they are ignoring and very annoying.

The price rised, sorry, we can't control the market.

the supporter said he promise that he wont convert it
question can u give me 1.8 all now?
so can you give me that 1800k?
?

can you answer? or you gonna keep ignoring? give me this dam 1800k and finish with the deal already !

Cindy 07-30 18:43:42
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Cindy 07-30 18:43:46
sent？

Hi, my number is [protected]. Qelacien

can i have my gold?

1800k

Cindy 07-30 18:46:32
yes

good, where should i go to?

Cindy 07-30 18:49:54
sent？

what sent?

Cindy pass the conversation to someone who is going to do hes work

your troll isnt funny

its just a very small part of how annoying and scamming they are, so see your self if u wanna spend your money on that.

I purchased the virtual goods from the website. They delayed delivery for three days. They are still not fully delivered.On the first day I asked to cancel the order, but they do not agree. Until now they did not give a solution. I need them to return the full amount，and give me the relevant compensation. They deceive consumers, in the absence of sufficient goods are still selling goods. Their customer service also admitted that they are deceptive Web site

It's been 6 days, still haven't received game cash, payed $22.00, keep receiving same message...Requested refund, manager not in.. [Jocelyn] Hello, how may I help you? [Jocelyn] Please hold on, I will check on that. We will mail the gold to you soon, you don't need to wait here, we will send an email to you once the delivery completed. Order Completed! Thank you for your payment. The order number is xxxxxxxxxxxx, please let us know in live chat room. Please hit the live chat button below, one operator online will help with you for the delivery.

I have been pay with my master card and they dont pay cabal alz they say I have to pay again with other of the payment thats not normal what they ask again I just want some one can read this and see thıs side what do people I want they close side bec I dont want anybody lose they are money I pay 127 euro for the payment

First, i'd like to say this three websites are the same company with the same live customer (just check their contact info or the name on the payment). I bought gold for around 23$. Before purchase, i inquired about stock and delivery delays. They confirmed all was in stock and delivery should take from an hour to 24h max. I Asked if they refund if the delivery delais were not respected because i needed the gold for an ingame event that would end in 48h. They assured me everything would go rapidly and they would refund me if not. 10days later, still waiting. I went to the live support after 24h to ask for info. They paste some automated messages telling they send my order again to the supplier and that i need to wait more. So i waited more 24h. The event i purchased the gold for was ending and still no gold. When i asked why, the same automated messages were answered, supplier currently offline, manager not working today. Next day, still no answer, supplier still currently offline, manager on vacation, live support cannot give refund (even if it's noted in their "terms and conditions"). Next days, the same went going down. It's been 10days now and still no clear answer on why it's not been delivered and no one can grant me a refund because the manager never works. When i ask simple questions like: "why can't you ask the supplier why it has not been delivered?" or "Are you refusing to refund me?" or "When will your supervisor be at work?", they give bogus answers. So unless you pay with paypal (which was not an option on my order) and can open a dispute, never buy on their site. I paid via skrill and have no legal options against them :( Skrill does not interfere, they are just paid to collect and transfer money to scammers (they are profiting from scammers).

this company will lie to you outright

Janice 05-31 21:31:32Hello, how may i help you?

You 05-31 21:32:12hi, i'm thinking about buying astral diamonds for neverwinter online. want to see how long it would take for 2 mil?

Janice 05-31 21:33:53We will arrange the delivery in 10 minutes usually after you pay.Janice 05-31 21:34:14We have plenty of stock, you can place the order now, and delivery will be arranged real fast.

You 05-31 21:34:32do you have in stock or will there be a waiting period?

Janice 05-31 21:34:40we have in stock now

Janice 05-31 21:34:54u dont need wait

im still waiting

Do not use this company – they are fraudulent!
Complaint rating:

Do not use this company – they are fraudulent!
I am thinking of starting a lawsuit against them they have been giving me the run arround for over a month. Stupid me clossed my paypal issue because they told me closs it and you will recieve in 15 min. Yeah right now paypal will do nothing so just lost money. Looking at all the sites and all they have done wrong multi lawsuit is what im thinking because there are more than just a few.

I had put in an order with these ppl and i kick myself in the proverbial 'butt' for not having checked with this site first. Unlike most, my order only cost me 11 dollars, but i think this has to be put in as a complaint as well just to show others that these guys are serious scam artists if nothing else. I put in an order, and then in my email i had to click a link that opened up a chat box with these people. I was asked to send my information about my email character name etc. As if that wasn't enough, i was then asked about my age, my phone number and another email, after all of this nonsense and running around, i was then told that their supplier was offline and that as soon as he was back on i would get an email. Well, the email never came so i got back online with them after i read the complaints on here's what happened;

Thanks for contacting us. An operator will be with you shortly...

[Evian] May I have your payment email address and character name please?
[Visitor] nathalie.[protected]@gmail.com, Valckyrie
[Visitor] i also sent in a lot of information yesterday, , i'd like to know when your 'supplier' will be giving me my game money that i had paid if full for?!

[Evian] Please hold on, I will check on that.
[Evian] hello
[Evian] do u order now ?
[Visitor] i HAD PUT IN MY ORDER 2 WEEKS AGO AND THEN YOU PPL YESTERDAY TOLD ME THAT YOUR SUPPLIER WAS OFFLINE
[Visitor] LOOK I KNOW YOU PPL ARE SCAM ARTISTS AND YOU WILL NOT GET AWAY WITH THIS
[Evian] may i know u order number ?
[Visitor] NO! YOU HAVE THE INFORMATION YOU NEED NOW GET ME MY MONEY
[Visitor] [protected] THAT'S IT NOW GET ME MY MONEY!
[Evian] sorry for u, i don't know u mean
[Visitor] YOU PPL ARE SCAM ARTIST, YOU STEAL FROM PPL YOU NEVER GIVE THEM WHAT THEY PAID FOR, , I'M LOOKING AT ALL THE COMPLAINTS AGAINST YOU
[Evian] u need refund ?
[Visitor] YOU WILL BE SHUT DOWN
[Evian] Please use lowercase letters

[Visitor] i want what i paid for
[Visitor] now
[Visitor] if i hear once i again that your supplier is offline
[Evian] did u paid 120 gold for King of Kings 3 ?
[Evian] and our supplier
[Evian] Is helping you receiving
[Evian] need u w aiitng
[Evian] so can u waiting ?
[Visitor] Hello Nathalie Le Maire,

The $11.44 CAD eCheck payment you made to [protected]@gmail.com has cleared.

Here are the details:

Total amount $11.44 CAD
Transaction date January 31, 2012
Transaction ID 34K59926MV604193U
Subject www.goldicq.com--King of Kings 3--Dynia--100 Gold Crown + 20% extra bonus--11.44 CAD--Ihatespldbrats--OrderNo:[protected]

[Visitor] i have a hard time understanding your english
[Visitor] there's all the information you need above
[Evian] yes i know
[Evian] i find u order
[Evian] our supplier here now
[Evian] but need u waiting
[Evian] our supplier has helping you receiving
[Visitor] 'i will find your order' ' can you wait please and i will get your information'
[Visitor] ok, , , what do you mean 'our supplier has helping you receiving?'
[Visitor] my god what terrible terrible english
[Visitor] i have no idea what you are saying at all
[Visitor] are you saying he is 'getting the order for me so i can recieve it?'
[Visitor] This is from the site Complaints Board;
[Visitor] More Goldicq complaints
Goldicq - no product received of virtual goods
Goldicq - Online Gold Scammers!
Goldicq - Scam
Goldicq - SCAM website Don't BUY
[Visitor] so ppl are onto you
[Visitor] and now im being ignored, , , yeah, , consider yourselves reported and hopefully you people will be ### down and you will all be thrown into the streets!

I will never see my order/recieve my goods, and i do blame paypal for supporting crooks like this. I'll never use paypal again. Lesson learned and yes, i sincerely hope they get shut down and justice is brought down, but again, i'm a cynic by nature and ppl like this only get away time and again with crimes like this.

THEY ###ING SCAM LIKE HELL:
paid 100+ in euro`s waited for 5 weeks for my cash and all the time they say they got problems whit paypal but i paid whit moneybookers! and they say yea we will take care of ure order today but they dident had my email yet so how the F. can they take care of my order then

09:49:14 PM [Lucy] Hello, how may I help you?
09:49:16 PM [Visitor] why is ure problem not on the site yet whit moneybookers and WU and all
09:49:17 PM [Visitor] :S
09:49:31 PM [Visitor] its been 4 weeks now since i made a payment
09:50:30 PM [Visitor] i want my runescape money i CAN`T pay whit WU
09:50:56 PM [Lucy] sorry for the trouble, but if you pay western union we will refund you and give you the gold at once
09:51:02 PM [Visitor] dont want any excuses
09:51:18 PM [Visitor] i told u befoure i can`t pay whit WU
09:51:40 PM [Visitor] its not my problems its the site problem u got the cash ready i want 2 get paid
09:52:17 PM [Visitor] dont macro me plz just awnser personal
09:52:50 PM [Visitor] i want my cash i pay for like every month 100+ on euro`s i want my money
09:54:54 PM [Visitor] ?
10:01:33 PM [Lucy] sorry, i will leave a msg to our manager and he will deal with your order in 12 hours
10:01:52 PM [Visitor] how do u know my order if u dont got my email :S?
10:02:33 PM [Visitor] they told me many times but u dont got my email so how do the manager knows thats my email ore account
10:05:52 PM [Visitor] ?
10:05:54 PM [Visitor] tell me
10:06:01 PM [Visitor] how u know my email'
10:09:11 PM [Visitor] ?
10:09:11 PM [Visitor] ?/
10:17:41 PM [Visitor] tell me ?
10:17:44 PM [Visitor] awnser
10:29:10 PM [Visitor] ********@gmail.com (Username) fix it i want an email tomorrow
10:30:12 PM [Lucy] ok, i will send you a email to notice you, sorry for the trouble (still no email!)

So here`s proof i got many more chats

Like many hard-working folks in Second Life, I try to stretch my lindens as far as they will go. I normally buy lindens in game, but thought I'd try an alternate source, since their currency is traded legally on the open market outside of the game world. I typed, "cheap lindens" into a search engine and found 3 prominent paid-for Google links, one of which was sllindenshop. I followed this link and found their website which promised delivery of lindens from 8 minutes to 24 hours. Their exchange rate was about 398L to a USD, which was far better than the 249L per dollar you can get in game. I did a Google search on "sllindenshop and scam" and didn't come up with anything bad, so I placed the order and then chatted live with a person named "Daisy" who was nice, said she was 24 years old (she asked me my age and so I asked hers), and the order would be delivered in-game in about 20 minutes. I stayed on the live chat with her until 30 minutes had passed, and she asked me to send her my in-game name in an e-mail so they could arrange the transfer. Then she told me they were having problems reaching their supplier. I asked her how long, and she said a couple hours. A couple hours later I went back to their web site and chatted with another girl who told me that my lindens would be delivered shortly. They never came. I went to bed and woke the next morning and found that I still had no lindens. My card was charged withing minutes of the transaction the night before. After work, I logged back onto their website and got yet another girl in chat who told me the were having supplier problems but they'd definitely have it worked out today. I then did a Google search on the company who's name appeared on the Credit Card charge and it pulled up tons of information on people who'd been ripped off by these guys. All of them reported the same things that I was experiencing. I told the girl that their site promised 24 hours and they had until then to deliver the goods or I would consider them in breach of the terms of the order and take appropriate action. 24 hours passed with no communication. I called my bank and told them I wanted to dispute the charge, and asked for the phone number of the company who made the charge so that I could call them and work it out. I called the number they gave me and it went to PayPal. The Paypal support representative I spoke with was very helpful. I explained the situation and told him all the complain info I'd found on this company. He helped me file a formal complaint against them and told me that they would withhold the funds from the company and would add my complaint to what may already be an ongoing investigation into this company. He told me to formally dispute the charge with my bank, and then money would then be credited back to me. The next morning, I found an e-mail from GoldICQ saying,

"We have got the gold ready for you, please contact our live support for face to face delivery. Please contact us as soon as possible, we can't hold the stock for a very long time."

I replied to them as follows:

"Dear Sirs:

Your website promised delivery of goods in 8 minutes to 24 hours. 24 hours passed with no delivery of goods. You are therefore in violation of the promised terms of the transaction.

I have filed a formal complaint against your company with Paypal. They have stopped payment for the goods I ordered from you. At their recommendation, I have also disputed their charge against my bank for this transaction so that my money will be returned to me.

In addition, so that countless other innocent people will not fall victim to your fraudulent and criminal scam, I called Paypal directly and spoke to them at length regarding the many complaints documented by http://www.complaintsboard.com/ and other similar websites not only against your company's deliberately deceptive tactics, but also against Paypal for their complicity by not involving Federal authorities in this case sooner (which they led me to believe may be already in progress).

I have also learned that Linden Labs has been suspending the accounts of anyone caught accepting goods from you in game, so I will not be accepting anything from you or any of your representatives.

I have provided Paypal with the lengthy list of names under which your company does business so that unsuspecting victims will not continue to be fooled by your various disguises.

I would advise you to get out now, before you are escorted out in handcuffs by the FBI, which may actually be a good thing if it saves you from being gunned down with an AK-47 by some poor schmuck that you scammed. Get a real job with a legitimate company that actually is trying to make the world a better place.

Happy Friday 13th to you."

Please help stop these guys by putting your experiences with them on the web for people to read. Oh... and if you find a deal on the Internet that seems too good to be true, it probably is.

This company sells gold for mmorpgs or claims to do so, to be more accurate. Do not do business with them, they will steal your money. Avoid this company and spread the word that they should be avoided, they operate under different site names for various online games.

'I purchased virtual goods through the website:
www.buyimvu.com a week ago. I have not received the product yet. I paid
through payal. I have maintain corresponse with the website trying to
obtain the goods but the company keep giving me the run around. I do
have document of live chat conversation that we had. I contact the
website each day since I purchase yet no product. First the the company
needed me to verfiy I did that by emailing them my information : imvu
user name, they also wanted my phone number i did that, they called to
get more verfication, next they wanted me to create something on the
website of imvu and set at ##k thats the amount of credits i bought from
www.buyimvu.com...they said they would buy it from me (the product I
created) well i dont know how to create. so they ask if they can have my
password to farmer my credits. I was apprehensive but i gave them the
information. They asked me not change the password until they were done.
They had done nothing, i changed my password. Now the company says the
market is slow or the supplier is offline and come back in three hours
but each time i come back the company says the supplier is offline again
and they have my order. This is unjust i have never had an issue before
with any other website receving goods, this website is fraud with paypal
services connected.

This is a topic for all those who are looking to buy or have bought and got scammed from these websites. Here is your solution to getting your money back:

First of all, if you're looking to buy from these websites, do not. They will not deliver period.

My situation and solution:

I bought $400 worth of coins via paypal on botsgold.net promising delivery of the coins within 20 minutes. Not only were the coins not ready, they excused wanted me to check back within 1-2 days. Throughout the transaction they also asked me to reveal myself via webcam or show them a personal identification card (some will ask for a phone call). As with authentic companies, everyone should know that this is completely unnecessary. By this time, I realized that I was the victim of a scam and immediately filed a dispute with Paypal.

Next day, they told me to CLOSE the dispute and then they would refund the money. Obviously, I knew that I couldn't do that or I wouldn't get my money back. Then they provided the excuse that if they refunded the money before I closed the dispute, then Paypal would provide a "negative evaluation" to them. I immediately called Paypal regarding this and they said that in NO WAY would a "negative evaluation" be given if the money was refunded. The claim would automatically be closed if money was refunded. I told them this and I threatened that if they refused to refund my money, I would make sure that Paypal and my credit card company would look into their company's fraudulent practices and that this would be much worse ramifications than a "negative evaluation." That got their attention and after they spoke with their "leader", they refunded my money.

Uncovering their business tactics:

We all know that they will attempt to steal your money but how?
1. Paypal - If you decide to close a dispute, you will no longer have the option to revive it and you will no longer get your money back.
2. Identity - They will ask you questions regarding your age in attempt to evaluate your maturity level. If you are young enough, they will try to manipulate you into getting what they want.
3. Relations - In an attempt to cover their tracks, they will try to forge personal relations with you. They asked me what nationality I was (I'm chinese for the record) and they immediately tried to relate to me because they happened to chinese too. Too bad I wasn't that cooperative.

Solutions:
1. File dispute with Paypal immediately - This will get their attention and they will beg to ask you to close it. Don't until your money is refunded.
2. Contact Paypal and credit card company - After 1 day, ask Paypal to escalate your claim to a dispute. Also, notify your credit card company of the situation.
3. Be serious and direct - The most important tip of them all. You must talk to the customer service representative of the website from which you bought from. Be forceful into saying that there will be harsh consequences if they don't refund you the money. Usually by then, they will (slowly but surely) look into it and give you a refund.
4. File with IC3 - I did so due to their fraudulent practices.

Finally good luck to all of you and feel free to contact me with any questions.

Goldicq International Sales Ltd offers (game-money) ISK. but have no intent of give it to you. When your money has been transfered from PayPal or your creditcard, they run into trubble contacting their supplier, they tell you to come back later. When you come back at a later time the same thing happens, over and over again. I opend a case at PayPal, and Goldicq begged me to close it, if i did the ISK would be in my gamecharacters wallet within 5 min. everything was ready for transaction. I closed the case at PayPal and Goldicq closed the chat...These people are really ###, they robbed me for USD 7, 39 and went to all this trubble to get at them? I know i shoul never closed the case at PayPal before the ISK had been transferred, i know! By letting websites like this use PayPal, PayPal help criminals operate, they are not without blame here!

Yeah same here although i got my first 300mil in two days.Later than they said but still happy with results so i decided to get more, a larger amount this time.Oh big mistake in chat f0r 4 days and they either said supplier wasn't on or they are still collecting.I then found this site and decided to contribute to the hate :)

Day 5 chat went like this...

[Julie] Hello, how may I help you?

[Visitor] hello I have purchased gold 5 days ago and still not got what I payed for.I must receive it from you today or I will have to open a dispute in paypal and will not purchase a third time.

[Julie] May I have your payment email and character name please?

[Visitor] Character name: KeyGrip email ***************@yahoo.co.uk

[Julie] Please hold on, I will check on that.

[Visitor] my patience is running out.

[Julie] We are keeping collecting the gold for you, but need more time. As soon as we get it ready, we will email you at once. Thanks for your understanding.

[Visitor] you said that 2 days ago

[Visitor] Could you send me what you have collected so far?

[Julie] so sorry for the delay

[Visitor] will you have it by tonight?

[Visitor] thats 7 hours

[Visitor] should be enough

[Julie] yes

[Visitor] ok will check again later thank you

[Julie] np

It has been almost a month and I have yet to receive my 6K gold. All they did was buying more time from me, making excuses that their gold are out of stock. On their website they said they bought out gold from retired gamers and that makes them legit because it doesn't involve any 3rd party program - that's why I bought their gold. I just send them a charge back a moment ago via paypal. If you have enough proof and evidence (like me) that you've been scam, you can also report this to the Internet Thief Department or your local police department, they will definitely deal with them. It won't hurt much, only if they refuse to pay the charge back they will have their whole website shut down and pay some "extra" payment.

October 10, 2010

Re: www.goldicq.com

http://livechat.boldchat.com/aid/4629474529609948992/bc.chat?cwdid=5761377227234514412
[Moolin] Hello, how may I help you?
[Dwayne] hi moolin i just placed an order, form number is : 10101022094xxxx
[Moolin] Please hold on, I will check on that.
[Dwayne] ok
[Moolin] Could you please email us your character name, level and Server, we may need to make a confirm before the first time trade.
Please make sure the character name you wrote is exactly the same as your ingame name, with correct capitalization.
Please email it to [protected]@gmail.com . Thank you.
[Dwayne] ok
[Dwayne] Hi message sent
[Moolin] ok, let me see
[Dwayne] sure
[Moolin] wait
[Dwayne] ok
[Moolin] We may call you to make a confirm, if you don't mind, may I have your phone number please?
[Moolin] :)
[Dwayne] 1-403-xxx-xxxx
[Moolin] how old are you
[Dwayne] xx
[Moolin] whose card did you use to buy
[Dwayne] my own
[Moolin] ok
[Moolin], wait for the call
[Dwayne] ok i am waiting
[Dwayne] I use paypal as i have my card link to this account this is also for my protection as well.
[Moolin] ok
[Moolin] Oh, we meet some problem with our phone connection currently, I won't call you now, we may would call you next time, sorry for the inconvenience.

[Dwayne] no this wont work as i have to back to work in a couple of hours. If you are not able to process at this time then I would like to cancell this order and not process later.
[Moolin] contacting the supplier for you
[Dwayne] ok, continuing to wait.
[Moolin] Our supplier is offline now, would you please check back later for the face to face trade ?
[Dwayne] I do not want to wait anymore, I contacted Mary about 30 minutes ago and she said that you had stock. I wish to cancel my order and not meet face to face later.
[Moolin] the supplier just has a little pqoblem with his system, he cant log in game
[Dwayne] I would like to have a credit back to paypal. This has taken to long, sorry.
[Moolin] can you wait ?
[Dwayne] for how much longer do you think?
[Moolin] soon
[Moolin] ]he is trying to fix
[Dwayne] Moolin this is my free time I dont wish to waste it waiting, my patience is wearing thin.
[Moolin] sorry:(
[Moolin] can you check back later'
[Moolin] I know your feeling
[Dwayne] It not the mater of feeling as i am not able to play online later as I have to work. I wish to cancell this order now and not wait and I suggest that you find a more reliable supplier.
[Dwayne] please return credit.
[Moolin] our supplier are reliable
[Moolin] just need time
[Dwayne] no more time.
[Dwayne] If you can not issue a credit at this time then I will have Paypay contact you directly as I have stated I no longer wish to proceed.
[Moolin] sorry, plz dont do that
[Dwayne] Then simply issue a credit.
[Dwayne] All that is lost is an order.
[Moolin] I have no right to refund
[Moolin] :(
[Dwayne] What is meant by that? you have no right is it not the company you work for?
[Moolin] the manage has the right
[Dwayne] He will also have the right to speak with Paypal and Mastercard. I will also post these comment for others to read as you seem not to be co-operative.
[Moolin] I will leave a msg to our manage, he will deal with your order soon
[Moolin] I will leave a msg to our manage, he will deal with your order soon
[Dwayne] Yes he can deal with paypal now. Unjustified Customer.
[Moolin] he is not here, when he come, he will deal