PokerStars.com review: Rigged/fixed software 64

at first i wasnt a beleiver but now ive been noticeing werid things .my account been oh hold for three days now over twenty dollars, my bank dosnt have a restriction i live in a legalized gambling state the debit card provider dosent have any restrictions the money is in the bank .but there clameing they cant get the money.and now they want me to send a cashiers check or money order for 100.00 to pay 20.00 proclaming they dont except money orders or western unions or cahiers checks for no less than 100.00.and all ive deposit was 20.00 anyway ever since ive complained about it im allowed to play the freerolls . so i would play them and man i swera im seeing the same cards getting busted with trips you name it no matter what i have i loose. i guess until i send them a 100.00 bucks to cover twenty dollars i dont know it just seems weird . or the other truth is maybe i suck that much but before all this deal over the twenty bucks i was cashing in the micro tournies.and advanced to send a video to the big game twice so i dont think i suck that bad.i think there is something strange about it all.

You don't have to be clever to realize that with the amount of money involved and considering how easy it is to rig a online game - any poker site will or is at some point in time rigged. A inside job is just more likely.

what do you expect from a site run by an isreali criminal family?
it is in my view and many 10s of thousands that have been and gone from jokerstars the biggest rip off on the net!

I agree about Pokerstar tournaments. It's software controlled. I played this site for the last 5 years and learned that most of the times when there are 3 or 4 players left, players with bigger stack wins most hands against players with smaller stack. . They tried to make more tournaments and make more money so they speed up the games this way. Very obvious. If you want to win, play small and have fun.
I just got an email from them that I cheated playing $6.50 tournament by their security watch (I think it's software). I have no idea why. They credited to my account $4.40 based on their calculations and being fair to other players. In their email they said they are unable to explain how they do the calculations. This is a big joke. I was having fun playing some small (cheap) tournaments for a long time but it is not the same any more with all the emails they sent me.

Ofcourse its rigged! check it out...enuff said

I totally agree! I in my opinion, there is no doubt Pokerstars is so rigged and predetermined it makes me sick to my stomach. I think the chances of ANYBODY winning an average tournament is probably 1 in 10, 000 The sad part of it all is there is nothing anybody can do. It is especially bad for the addicted gambler who can t help himself from returning to this site time and time again. I know some people will disagree with this, but all I wouild say to these people is go stick your head in the toilet! The good thing for Ontario residence, is that next year we will have online gambling. This will surely put a dent in Mr Pokerstars wallet!,

ITS A COMPLETE JOKE, JOKERSTARS

I have been playing online for a little over a year now and it never ceases to amaze me at how so many hands can appear to be contrived. AA vs KK vs 53off and the 53 wins more often than not. KQ vs AK vs K2 and the flop is 22J. No matter what the Pokerstars people say, no one wil convince me that the hands are being dealt randomly. Computers can only "simulate" randomness. The site FAQs say that each deck is set once the shuffle is complete but how do you prove that? Too often you will get beaten by the only card that could possibly beat you and completely miss with 16 outs. The "too many outs" syndrome does not translate to live poker. The "seeing more hands online than live" argument doesn't hold water because each table should be its own microcosm and have no effect on other tables. I cannot trust a system that has the odds set. If it can be rigged, you can bet that it is being rigged at some level. Online poker is nothing more than a luck-fest, identical to video lottery terminals and slot machines. I'll continue to play online for fun but will never commit serious money to it and I will never endorse it if given the chance unless they can definitively prove that each table has a completely independant deck and shuffle. As far as I'm concerned, the way online poker is currently run, it is nothing more than a simulation of how the various games should be played. I'll stick to live poker.

Further to my post, I just busted out of a tourney on Ripoffstars. Had pocket 5s with 3K in chips and 7 left on final table. I raise, big stack calls. 4 Ace 5 on flop so I shove. He calls with pkt 4s. 4 on the turn. Needless to say, my laptop is lucky to be alive. Pokerstars is a complete ripoff. No one can prove that it is being run on the up-and-up unless they open up the program code and they aren't gonna do that. And all the sites are the same. I think that the online poker world is crapping their collective pants now hoping the Full Tilt/Tapie deal goes through and no one decides to check the software for operational issues. As far as I'm concerned, online poker is no better than an electronic slot machine. The odds are fixable and are, therefore, being fixed. I hope they all get cleaned up to make them more realistic or shut them down.

iam from greece and i play to jokerstar for 3 years, i have put inside over 1000 euros without win 1 cent!when i loose all the time say to me try again and again but nothing, i khnow now i have to stop.question?why people from america stop to play on site?thank you

Pokerstars is and always has been a rip off. I lose every tourney when i am all in on the turn heads up with the best hand and the other player has nothing. Why he has even called pre flop, fop and the all in at the turn is beyond me but one thing is for sure. He will get his 1, 2, 3 or 4 outta on the river every time. Shame on the owners of Pokerstars. If you anyone is reading this DO NOT PLAY FOR REAL MONEY - YOU WILL LOSE IT. The owners are criminals!

I am not one to easily say software is rigged, but I tend to believe what is posted here. It sure looks like slotmachine software. I don't claim to be a great poker player, but after I won a hot 0.55 tourney for 765 dollar, I lost about 95% of my tournaments before they hit the money. My play has not changed. I am basically pretty tight in the first part and than losen up when the limits raise, I guess like everyone else that posts here would. I don't mind losing flips, it's part of the game. But if you lose at least 80% against worse hands (and not just worse hands, but all in russian roulette kind of hands), that can not be called variance anymore. I have seen boards with all spades (2, 4, 6 9, 10) and at showdown one held 35s and another 78s. Both flopped straight flush. KK against 10 2, board 10, 2, 2 x x. Situations where you get only low cards for a long time, than get dealt big pocket pair in late position. Raise, reraise, all in and get beat on river by either flush or lower pair hitting trips. Next hand, almost down to zero chips, your 22 holds up against 4 opponents. Than to top if off, you get dealt AA in small blind, Big Blind calls your all in with absolute crap like Q4 and hits Q and 4 on the board.

This can not be defined variance anymore when it happens as often as you see it happen on PS. Go check it out. Follow a tourney for a while and write down how often worse hands win and how often you see complete ridiculous all ins win, no matter what stakes you watch. I expierenced the same pattern a few years back when I joined PS. I won 3 out of 5 12 dollar 180 mans SNGs in my very first week on there. After that, for weeks, couldn't win one all in flip or big hand and ended up being 2000 dollar in the dump 2 months later. It isn't so much the money. I can spare it. It's the pattern. I stopped played on a frequent base and rejoined the end of last year. Same thing happened. I won 3 sngs 8 dollar 180 man, finished close to ft on a Big 11 tourney and won the Hot 0.55. After that, nothing, completely nothing. I also noticed since Russians are allowed to play on PS, they keep getting rewarded with crap hands more than anyone else. They throw it in with 83o, J4s and those kinds of hands, no matter what position, get called by legit hands and suck out, preferrably on the river. I can not even count the times I shouted out the river card before it was dealt and got it right.

So, is PS software rigged? Yes. I do believe it is. Maybe rigged is not the right word, it for sure gets close to playing a slot machine. You play, play, win, play more and lose. Sure, there are winning players enough on there too. But what would also be interesting to know is what the deposit / withdraw ratio is per group of players. All that matters for PS is that that money keeps getting turned over between players. Turnover is the only interest for PS. After all that is where they make their millions of rake through, day after day.

Pokerstars is a total rippoff, It is just to constant that the worse hand gets their one and only card that could make their hand a winner on the river. It amazes me that when you contact costumer support about it, their answer is always the same " a bad beat", fine a bad bear happens every once in awhile, not every hand. I am not claiming to be the best player around, but I do manage to win where ever I go, so how come not Pokerstars? How come that piss poor player can get his one and only card on the river every time? How come there is no one checking this cheating site out?

Poker-stars, despite what they claim, has the games programmed for action, and not actual poker experience. For instance, Ace King in your hand, usually ends up flopping an ace... you bet knowing you have a great kicker and then when all is said and done, someone at the table had pocket aces. Does it happen every time? No, but it is set to do it 80% of the time. Why would they do this? Examine who is behind the online gaming. You have big name players and you have casino owners... simple fact is that you build up a persons confidence at home, to the point they think they can win at a live table, they take the trip and lose to the pros.

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Jokerstars is getting worse since they bought FullTilt. With no one to check them it is just pure ###. It is impossible to get suited connectors every hand only to get a 4 card straight and a 4 card flush and bottom pair every hand and miss on the turn and again on the river every F N hand. Their explanation is as always a bad beat. A bad beat happens every now and then, not every time you are all in and way ahead till the miracle card on the river to give eldonko the win every time.

poker is like cooking !
trust a iron chef opinion...trust that he will tell you if your technique is wrong !
TRUST ME ABOUT POKER ONLINE ... NO JOKE NOT GONNA BLOW SMOKE UP YOUR ### !
BEEN PLAYING LIVE POKER FOR 10 YEARS TOURNAMENTS AND CASH JUST JOINED PS ...OH YES JUST JOINED PS
WELL MY OPINION MATTERS AND MY VOICE SHOULD BE HEARD ! MY VIDEOS ARE REAL LIVE EXTREMELY SICK BAD BEATS SO BAD THAT YOU MAY NEED TO USE THE WASHROOM ALSO ~~
PYRAMID SCHEME IS THE OLDEST WAY TO SUCK THE WEAK INTO SPENDING THERE MONEY OVER AND OVER
ASK YOURSELF IF YOUR THE ONES DEPOSITING WITH PREPAID CARDS OR DEPOSITING EVERY WEEK THEY NEED YOU AND IF YOU ARE WINNING THEN ROME WOULD COLLAPSE THEY NEED THE BOTTOMS FEEDERS TO RUN THERE COMPANY DAY IN DAY OUT! ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES IS WRITTEN IN THERE DATA, SO AS LONG AS YOUR HAVING FUN AND LOSING GREAT !

I TAKE POKER SERIOUS IF I WANTED ENTERTAINMENT I WOULD PLAY MONOPOLY OR GO PLAY WITH MY TURTLE SO PLAYING WITH REAL MONEY IS SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE TAKEN SERIOUS AND STEALING SHOULD STOP FROM THE YOUNG AND WEAK .
SLOW PLAYING < RAISING PREFLOP

yes, agree i play live poker and you maybe see 10/100 what you see in pokerstras 60/100. nice software to steel your money not to play real poker

Total con. Always was and always will be. Anyone thats spent time playing on this sorry excuse for a fair gaming site will know the patterns that come into play to get you to deposit more money. Don't play for a while and see how much you will win within 24 hours. Play past the first day and watch out you will get more bad beats with your money all in good than you think could be truthly possible.
It's a massive scam. If you are thinking of playing poker - play in a club where you can watch the dealer - guarantee you the bad beats you suffer on pokerstars will cease. I just lost my last 8 all in's with against suckers playing weak hands and they caught turn and river for straights that just where impossible for the player to go for on the flop. I hope there is a heaven and hell - i know where the owners of pokerstars are going so they better enjoy our money while they are on earth :)

I play p stars quite alot and see so many crazy action hands all the time. Pretty much every hand. Especially on the sit and go hyper games is just sickening. A six player table. I got AA, raised. Next guy raised with his KK. A guy goes all in with his JJ and next guy calls with 1010 I [censored] you not. 4 Players all in from the first hand. The guy with 5 stars next to his name with kk hits a king on the river. 3 guys out straight off. Chances are twowill quickly Rebuy into another tourney making pokerstars more profits. Makes me wonder if that guy with 5 stars and also a pokerstars symbol! Is actually a bot collecting winnings for the owners? Can't ever prove it but something is not right. I will stick to live play where I actually win alot.

I have been playing for many years on pokerstars. Over the last 7 years I have noticed that most of my beats have unbelievable odds not in my favor.Time and time again. I am not a fish by any means and you can't win all the time. But 80-90 percent of the time We as players are getting beat when it is almost impossible to loose in some positions.. I have been googleing my odds on most of my hands and statistically it should not be happing with the consistency that it has been..Soo how about that

if you play omaha, its usually only 60/50% so its very hard to be profitable on omaha with 6 max. holdem is probably easier to win in the long run. what amazes me though, is everytime i deposit 10 dollar, i go to zoom 0, 2-0, 5 and i win about 60 dollars, then suddenly i cannot win a single hand and lose 30 dollars, then win it back to 60-70 dollar, then i lose it all, . everytime i do the same i win about 60 dollars, then its stop i cannot go any further i just keep losing that money, something must be wrong, i think theyre making me lose, otherwise, how can i win EVERY TIME the same, from 5 dollar buy-in to 60 dollar on one table in a few hours, there is something very rigged about this site. And to be honest, i dont think alot of people is making any money on cashgames there, even if you see supernova players i promise you the most of them are degenerate gamblers, thats what keeping jokerstars going, they take big loans to play mid/highstakes games.

I am going to say this just once. I used to work for PS. The site is fully rigged. We used to have automated bots with preprogrammed hands. 90% of the time in all tournaments the top 6-7 players are bots. The lucky players or the "chosen ones" are usually the new players to the site to get addicted.
Dont ask my for my name or contact details.
If you want to believe me fine, if not keep playing.
Regarding the schufling system, it is fully connected between tables. Winning or losing on PS has nothing to do with your skills. It is a scammed site that promotes itself through various celebrities that, trust me when i say, get paid with amounts that exceed your imagination.

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i agree i agree so much why can there be noting done about it

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Everyday there is another blog or post about poker stars being rigged. Is it all conspiracy ? Or is it simply bad players looking to blame something other than themselves and their playing skills?Yawn yawn yawn !Either way its a debate that will always divide opinion, i just read a very interesting topic on a poker community website and watch some of the videos posted by players, and a video released by Poker stars HQ who try and put their side across and i am still non the wiser lol, both arguments seem to have some credibility.A few people who have contributed to the debate are putting together something to present to the poker stars board with a view to getting them to release vital information and data to put and end to all the speculation.Have your say and lets see if they ( Pokerstars ) can finally end the controversy once and for all. The more voices the better chance we have of being heard!
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I agree. For a while ago I played Ladbrokes poker and Pokerstars. I played the same way on both sites, and in comparable tournaments. Guess what? I did a LOT better on Ladbrokes. Not to advertice for Ladbrokes, but Pokerstars - what is going on there?

Pokerstars, , , Hi, ive decided as much as I love playing it's just getting to obvious that something is wrong to play on pokerstars anymore. I know people will think that people just run bad or maybe there bad losers and are just complaining to make themselves feal better. This would be fine to assume if you didn't have players going all in with no pair and no draw after the flop, are the psychic? Why would anyone already deep in a 100k or more tourney risk the stack calling made hands with nothing? Probably because somehow they know what you don't, that the only card they can win with is coming on the river or better yet turn and river straight draw outs/ This would happen sometimes but if you get your money in good time after time and its getting to the point where you expect to loose with the best pre river either your the unluckiest player in the world or something is wrong. I get that people play bad so weird cards will win that shouldn't, what I don't believe is that players call off their whole stack with 7 q unsuited when there sitting in good position and don't have a short stack, and of course more often then not your a q looses to trip 7's or something else unlikely as hell. Basically what im getting at is if your opponents are drawing to a one outer 7% chance and winning 90% of those times there's just a point where your bad luck becomes something else.

Thanks to those who contribute this topic. I also made my thoughts about internet gaming, poker and other games. The problem with this kind of debate. It is really hard or impossible prove anything concerning manipulated software. There can be manipulated quite a lot inside the frame of
PRN (pseudo random numbers). The main problem is, the companies who offer these games got a legal right to deliver their own software for playing. These companies are monitored by other companies as ITechLab. It is then up to the players, if trust this system to work with random cards/numbers. When I agree to this debate it is also based on emperically experience of games for more than a decade in internet.
Those who make a complain to a Game Company about manipulated software will very often be met with a answer like this:
*The games are player vs. player. We got absolutely no interest in the outcome of the games!*
This answer maybe considered as incorrect for at least three reasons.
1. The game sites often taking a rake for the growing inserts during a game. This means f.ex. in poker they got a interest the pot growing during the
cards turned down. We see often people complain the so called *river card*.
2. The game sites got a interest (tournament gaming). Many as possible players been beaten out the tournament. The players can sign up new tournaments.
3. The game sites got a interest spread out the wins most possible, they not risks some of their *golden players* (players who insert often in larger scale), not getting blanked and loosing interest for the game.
*Let the best man win!*. I think we can forget all about it internet gaming.
The costumers internet gaming of today may considered as naive, if they just blind insert larger amounts into these companies.
The politicians got their fair share of the games. They may be considered blind and deaf too.
When I talk to other players about this problematic. I try compare it to the EPO scandal in cycling app 20 years ago. Nobody really believed the cycling teams were doped at that time. When all began come out in the open, it showed up, that nearly all of them doped that period.
It will not surprise me, if we at a time will see something the same in internet games.
Do not play for more than willing to throw away just like that. They call it amusement games and more than that, it is not!

game does not give you payouts correctly
Every hand game subtracts anywhere from 200 to 1000 chips from pot
also once you leave table it deducts 100, 000 chips from your total
It has done this at least twice

I have been playing online for years now. I play a lot of different sites and I would have to say most of them are rigged. If they can get away with it they will. The two worst sites are Pokerstars and 888! They make an impossible win seem so easy! On Pokerstars it is so obvious its sickening! I go all in with pocket aces against K9 and the flop is K-9-9 ! Unfreaking believable! I mean once in a while it happens But at Pokerstars it's about 85-90% of the time. I have never been afraid to go in with pocket Aces until I started playing on Pokerstars. I complained to them and sent them screen captures and videos of this happening over and over again. They tell me that it happens all the time in face to face (offline) Poker but you don't notice it because of the amount of deals in live offline compared to online. They say online will deal 100's of thousands of hands a day but live offline they can't possibly deal that much so it looks like it happens more often but in fact it's pretty much the same in the long run! Can you believe that ###! It is the most greedy, lying, scamming site on the net! A 10-Q will beat Aces 90% of the time! And a lot depends on the size of your chip stack and how often you have been winning. I have won many tournaments on pokerstars but I only play the tournaments for $1.10 up to $3.00 and every time I reach the $90.00 mark in winnings I start losing. That's because pokerstars has a minimum $100.00 withdrawal policy! It's one of the most crooked sites going. 888 is right up there with them. My last hand on 888 that did it for me was Q-4 in the hole against Q-2 in the hole. the flop is Q-9-9 then 4 then 10. Now as far as I know on ANY other site that's a tie. On 888 I lost! I screen captured it and sent it to them 2 weeks ago asking them to explain and they have not answered and I don't expect them to. In a cash game I keep track of every hand and mark down my winnings per hand. I started with $10 and I played 10 hands. I lost a total of $4.65 in 5 hands and my winnings in 5 hands were $30.55, 1.70, 1.65, 2.90 and .85.
(10.00 - 4.65) = 5.35 + (30.55 + 1.70 + 1.65 + 2.90 + .85) = $43.00

So I should have $43.00 for my table balance right. My actual table balance is $11.65? WTF? The other players caught and commented on it to. When I question 888 on it they tell me they can't find anything like that in my History file? Guess what? neither could I? SO what happened to it? I have screen shots and Witnesses showing it happened but it somehow did not show up in my History? But who do I complain to? There is no one who can do anything about it!
So I no longer play at 888, which should actually be called 666. I have a small balance of $20.00 left on Pokerstars which I will either lose or make over the $100.00 mark to withdrawal. I can pretty much guess what's going to happen! Once that's done I am also done with Pokerstars.

I have heard that William Hill is a good poker house and are on the up and up. Anyone know if this is true?