Acorn Stairlifts’s earns a 2.1-star rating from 18 reviews, showing that the majority of mobility-challenged individuals are somewhat dissatisfied with their stairlifts.
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My 93-year-old mother is at risk due to their lack of service
This is the formal complaint I filed against Acorn Stairlift with the Better Business Bureau regarding its failure to provide timely service for my 93-year-old mother's stairlift in Sioux Falls, SD. My mother has been relying on this stairlift for years, and when we recently had new floors installed, two of the supports had to be unscrewed. We promptly...
Read full review of Acorn StairliftsBought an outdoor Acorn Stairlift and have had nothing but trouble with it.
We purchased it approx. 5 years ago and have had problems every time we trun around. It took forever for them to send a repair person even thought I needed to go to work every day. I asked how I'm supposed to get home at night and they basically said to stay at a friends house. They also said to sweep any light dusting of snow off the rail before using it. How do you sweep the snow dusting and try to operate the stairlift at the same time if you are handicapped and have an oxygen machine you are trying to hang on to at the same time?
On the fourth year, I called to check on the price of a part. They basically gave me a high price. They did tell me about purchasing an extended warranty and I finally did that. They finally came and fixed the chair. We are now into the 5th year and I am not purchasing any more warranties. I called and asked for the price of batteries and she told me $70.00 each but they would have to send a tech. to replace them at a cost of $250.00 per hour. She could not give me a date as to when they could come and install the batteries unless I gave her the ok. I bought the batteries from Amazon at $25.00 each. In all the time we have had the chair lift, they never initiated a visit to just go over the chair to check it out. We've always had to have an issue with it for them to come and look at it. They are quick to come if you want to purchase a chair but not so much if you need repairs. These chairs do not belong outside in any Northern states.
Desired outcome: There is no desired Outcome. People purchase these chairs for a reason. They are supposed to be free to come and go but sometimes these chairs hold people back from trying to lead a halfway normal life.
Maintenance plan/bill ripoff
I purchased a stairlift for my husband in November 2020. In December of 2021 I was informed that in order to keep the warranty on my chairlift I needed to purchase a yearly maintenance plan in the amount of $795. Initially, I declined, because after paying over $15K for this lift, I felt the plan was way overpriced.
However, the salesperson relentlessly, called me two to three times every week. I purchased the plan and was told someone would contact me to schedule an appointment to inspect my stairlift.
I have called this company at least 3 times throughout 2022. Each time I was assured someone would be contacting me to schedule an appointment. The next to the last last call was on September 22, 2022 and I spoke with a manager name Jodi. She once again assured me that someone would be contacting me to schedule an appointment, she blamed on COVID. I requested 2 weeks ago for a full refund from this company.
First of all, $795 a year for an inspection after paying over $15K is a scam. How dare they take advantage of handicap individuals, many with a limited income. Additionally, to add insult to injury take the money and NEVER provide a service. A complete rip-off! In the meantime, I don't know if the machine needs adjusting or not and my handicapped husband and handicapped mother uses it often.
I have asked for my money back and the company has yet to respond. So disappointing. I would never recommend this company to anyone.
Desired outcome: Refund of my money and a free inspection.
Is Acorn Stairlifts Legit?
Acorn Stairlifts earns a trustworthiness rating of 94%
Highly recommended, but caution will not hurt.
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- Despite a high level of trust, our investigation found issues with Acorn Stairlifts's service, including poor customer service, lack of accountability, and responsibility to resolve complaints. Customers may face long wait times for responses, receive generic or unhelpful answers or no response at all. Only 27% of 0 complaints were resolved.
No-Show for service appointment--Account # 710915
I was scheduled for the initial first-year service on 6 October 2022. I purchased the curved stair lift and it was installed in October 2021. On 6 October 2022, I called to confirm the arrival time of Acorn's service person and was told by a receptionist that Dominique had allegedly left a message on my phone on 27 September 2022 changing my appointment to 19 January 2023. I never received such a message. It is my belief that no such message was ever sent and if I had received it I would have responded accordingly, as I had requested a change in the original appointment of 13 October to 6 October 2022 with your representative Vanessa because of a scheduling conflict.
Desired outcome: I understood this to be a reputable and professional firm. As an early customer of the service agreement, I was given a three-month extension. I'd appreciate an additional three-month extension and a response.
Stairlift
Would not purchase this unit!
Our 80 yr old friend who is handicapped bought this over 5 years ago and works about 10% of the time. Service is a joke and usually takes 3 weeks to schedule a service call which is totally unacceptable when she has to literally crawl up the stairs.
Each time service has been called the chair works for around a month and then back to waiting three weeks to get service again.
Very poor design from our viewpoint and would use another vendor but unfortunately already spent $10,000.00 plus yearly service plans and does not have the funds to replace this.
Company does not seem to realize as when you are dealing with seniors that are disabled, response to failure and stable design is of the utmost importance and this does not seem to be a concern!
When you call the main number you will be on hold for min 15 minutes then it just disconnects after several attempts just gave up.
Desired outcome: Replacement
Customer service
I am writing to complain about the lack of customer service and follow through with Acorn Stairlifts. My 90-year old father has one of your stairlifts and it is essential for him in order to be able to still live at home. He pays the $695 fee for an annual service check up. He paid for this in June 2021 and has had his service appointment cancelled 3 times on him. Evidently Acorn doesn't have someone in the area to service him. When he calls Acorn he gets the run around and people don't return his calls or he is put on hold and no one comes back on the line. At this point he'd like his money back. I am planning on taking this further, contacting the Better Business Bureau and may small claims court if necessary.
Desired outcome: Either get our money back or get a service person out here.
Removal of Stairlift
We had a stairlift installed on Friday, 10/15. Though the installer showed my mom how it worked and such, it really does not fit in our apartment. I am not sure why it was sold to us with a narrow staircase and a landing at the bottom where the track and chair prevent the door from opening right. I know my mom moved forward with it so my complaint is not in the lift itself. I will just say though that an ethical company would not have installed the lift without telling us that it would be tight and that we would have to accept that, even maybe in writing. I would respect that 100%. Instead, we were told it would "fit" and then you are stuck with it and paying the fee when the install is done. It is not like they install and are willing to take it out and leave when you say it does not fit.
Anyway, after trying it out Friday night, we realized how tight it was and how it was not easy to walk past no matter what step it was on. If it is on the top, it is hard to carry packages onto the apartment landing. We really wanted to keep it cause my Dad needs it. However, it is not practical and involves too many steps to bring it up before opening the door. Again, we went forward. I am not happy with how it was sold but we approved it. That is not my complaint though I feel it is shady.
I contacted the sales person Saturday morning to say I probably need it removed and my complaints. He said he told my mom there might be "issues". My mom said he said it would fit. It does not fit but not getting into the he-said/she said/. I confirmed with salesperson Monday morning I want it removed. He says he will tell the office. I get no call from the office so I call later Monday morning. I was told their system was down and they missed some appointments over the weekend so now they are playing catch up and only scheduling installations. I was told once they are done with installs that need to be made up as well as once system is up and running they will schedule removals.
I get no call back Monday. I call again late Tuesday morning. A woman tells me their system was down since October 6th. She says they are not scheduling removals still. Both times they are only scheduling installations. No reason given why only installations. Just installations. She connects me with a tech rep.
He gets upset cause I called yesterday and spoke with me. It was not like I was calling to be annoying on purpose. I said well I was never told the system would be down so long and also that removals would be so delayed. He says to call back in a month to schedule the removal and gets argumentative because I am having trouble understanding why installations can be done but removals can't. I feel they are picking to do installations cause that generates high revenue. They don't want removals cause they lose any hope of future revenue and lose a member of their service. Seems weird to segregate customers to not be serviced because of what they are asking for. To me, you service who you can service. When I am ready to spend $3200, they come in 1 day. Now I want removal and I get discarded like my call does not matter.
All throughout this, we were given a lift that does not fit and are stuck. I am losing at a minimum $3200 for this and not even making a complaint about the money. I was told numerous times the removal will not be free and said I will pay. Am I happy I have to pay that after spending $3200? No, but I just want this out in a timely manner. The company comes in 1 day to install but it takes over a month to schedule a removal. What kind of company is this to treat customers this way? And on top of that, the rep I speak with gets a little tough guy attitude. Like I need to fight with someone on the phone as an adult. All I am asking is for something to be removed that should have not been installed in the first place while you keep my money and I pay for removal. What am I doing wrong?
Desired outcome: i need system removed asap
acorn stairlift 130 and 180 models
If you own an outdoor Acorn stairlift, an Acorn 130 or 180 from 2014 or newer you can qualify to be part of a class action lawsuit against Acorn Stairlifts. This company has been scamming and preying on the elderly for way too long.
The outdoor model they sell is not meant to be used outdoors and when it breaks they charge you a ridiculous amount. The problem is the limit switches rust and corrode very easily and you will be stranded without a stairlift.
The seat base of the newer model seat has a potential of cracking at the pressure points of the base which is a major safety concern. The FDA and CPSC have already been contacted and they are investigating them as part of possible recall. Acorn currently going around and replacing these seat squabs without telling their customers the reason behind it.
The same new style seat of the 130 and 180 tend to cut the wires at the armrest from folding the arm rest up and down. The company came out with a replacement kit but the problem is still happening. Due to their design flaw the company will come out for ridiculous service charge of $250.00 to replace it with another kit that will cut the wires in a few months.
We cannot let this company continue the rip off their customers. Please contact the Girardi Keese Lawfirm at [protected] if you've been affected by Acorn Stairlifts.
send broken parts at no exchange
I bought a used Acorn stair lift last year December which work fine. I
February as stop working and my electrician got in contact with acorn
and was told that is the motherboard which cost 750$ plus shipping. the
bord came and 2 brand new batteries as works for 2 to 3 days and quit.
Got other brand new set batteries work 3 days quit. keep calling acorn
their said is the mother board again. I called several times nothing
happens I mean 750$ is allot of money when you live on Social Security which their say not refund nor
send me another board. Not calling me back nothing. I am setting here
very limited in walking have a out hip and 5 disk out on my lower back I
differently need my chair back. I read on your feedback a women had the
same problem she bought a brand new one and Acorn never fix it for her.
Acorn calls them self the number 1 stair-lift company which their not.
I will not stop until I get my 750 $ back or a brand new board. I will
put them on Rip of and more sites from the inI bought a used Acorn stair lift last year December which work fine. I February as stop working and my electrician got in contact with acorn and was told that is the motherboard which cost 750$ plus shipping. the bord came and 2 brand new batteries as works for 2 to 3 days and quit. Got other brand new set batteries work 3 days quit. keep calling acorn their said is the mother board again. I called several times nothing happens I mean 750$ is allot of money when you live on Social Security which their say not refund nor send me another board. Not calling me back nothing. I am setting here very limited in walking have a out hip and 5 disk out on my lower back I differently need my chair back. I read on your feedback a women had the same problem she bought a brand new one and Acorn never fix it for her. Acorn calls them self the number 1 stair-lift company which their not. I will not stop until I get my 750 $ back or a brand new board. I will put them on Rip of and more sites from the Internet to let people know how much Acorn think and do for their people. Internet to let people know
how much Acorn think and do for their people. Also their Customer service is very bad normally the customer is the King but their treating you like a peace of ### . I will also write to the General Attorney and let them know what kind of business these company is doing.
Sincerely Karin Tivoli
The complaint has been investigated and resolved to the customer’s satisfaction.
advantage of seniors
Recently my in-laws purchased an acorn stairlift, and as others have pointed out, they will charge a different price if they feel they can take advantage of a situation. My in laws had a unit installed at a cost of $12, 000 and when my father in law passed away only 10 days later they told me they would give us only $300 per piece to buy back. This means for a 10 day old unit they will pay $900.00!
How can the price of this unit drop 92%? This company is a group of sharks.
price fraud
We had an Acorn Stairlifts representative come out to our home, as we were thinking about getting a stairlift for my mother who lives with us. She is 80 years old, and suffers from breathing problems and can no longer walk up and down the stairs. Mom weighs slightly over 305 pounds. We decided to buy the stairlift, but we were told that because my mom...
Read full review of Acorn Stairlifts and 5 commentscancellations of delivery + other
What a terrible time we have had from Acorn stair lifts recommended by Age Concern. For my Parents age 90 & 84not in good health & mobility problems.
Acorn did not just contact us for all delivery dates as requested kept contacted parents who are elderly & very anxious & vunrable.
Kept cancelling just the day before delivery should have taken place, my parents have carers in to help them so timing & day was most important, as we had to be thier & live over a hundred miles away & to get time off work.
Acorn kept changing time & day, & when rearranged cancelled again.
Chair lift now fitted today after a lot of hagling on a mobile phone on our way to be at parents house to be thiere for the delivery. I wanted to cancell as so poor service, but they are in desparate need for this chair lift & to go down the route of organising with another was too much for my parents to cope with.
So be aware, Acorn cannot organise, need a good project manager.
We await to see how the servicing goes!
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acorn stairlifts is ripping off senior citizens!!
Acorn Stairlifts will send a "Surveyor" out to your home and charge you $4, 500 for a new Acorn Superglide including installation. If you don't buy it on the day their Surveyor comes to visit, they will call you the next day/week etc. and lower the price for the very same model to $3, 000, claiming a "Demonstrator Model" just became available from an AARP...
Read full review of Acorn Stairlifts and 4 commentsacorn
i bought an acorn 3 years for my parents, and they love it. no complaints on their or my end, the sales person was polite and no pressure was implied. so lisa - your lesson is learned by dealing with a rinky dink local shop that is bound to close or skip town. for all others in the stairlift market, deal directly with the manufacture and not a medical bizzare store in town. i did my research and so should you. DEAL DIRECT.
he needs to wind his head in..
Nonsense, all wrong - my nephew is making this stuff up.. its spam
warranty worthless
From August 2007 to date, Acorn Stairlifts declines to honor its one year and lifetime warranty for a stairlift purchased December 2006. Contacted Acorn numerous times over many months, experienced many delaying tactics. Their authorized repairperson couldn't repair stairlift--and we had to pay extra for the repair visit. Acorn will not honor its lifetime warranty--for which we paid extra. Acorn alleges dealer is responsible (Stairlifts Online US); dealer alleges Acorn is responsible--no one takes responsibility. We are out over $2, 000 and are stuck with a stairlift that does not work. An independent electrician couln't repair the stairlift. We don't want others, especially elderly and disabled, to go through what we've been through.
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This is a scam you are correct! The PHONE Call to them is a waste of your time and effort. DO NOT buy this. Our thyseen kemp went bad and we bought this. lasted 3 weeks, 2 years old. The "board" c78 is bad. a new board is $600! A computer board for a complicated hvac unit is $50. AND has a 3 year warranty! This is a simple board and $600 is ROBBERY and no warranty.
Get yourself a mini elevator installed in a closet somewhere these stairlifts are a rip off. you can reach me a RentNashville@aol for more info 6.26.14
I am a physically disabled woman who can no longer get up and down the stairs. I cannot walk, so I have to crawl (literally)! I have had this stupid chair for a tear and a 1/2, and had so many problems since. I called their 888 number, and a supposed representative answered (a woman) and told me that all reps were busy assisting other customers. So, she asked me for my name, phone, and address, and told me that someone would call me back within 24 hours. I told her that I will just wait for someone to get on the line because I am not going to wait another day for someone one to call me back. She said that is the only way its going to work, so she gave me another phone number to call (866 #), and guess who answered the phone? SHE DID! I couldn't believe it! I asked if there was someone else that I could speak to her besides herself out of the entire call center, and she said no. that she was the only one! No Supervisor or anything! I was furious! I told her that if I do not hear from anyone by the end of the day, that I will contact my lawyer. They are scammers! I will not quit until this matter is resolved in my favor!
We agree with ALL NEGATIVE comments! We just paid $250.00 for a service call. Chair is 8 months old. There was a bad limit switch, under warranty but Acorn would not warranty the switch because I installed the lift myself! The faulty switch has nothing to do with the installation, it was FAULTY! Donot buy an Acorn product, period!
I agree. We had one installed 1 year ago July 2011. Acorn has made 10-12 repairs on the chair lift since including replaceing the entire rail/track, motors and battery packs. Acorn is now insisting that we purchase an extended warranty for ... $1, 926.00 for 4 years (which is a bargain?) up front. We are disabled and cannot afford this in one payment. They apparently do not have confident in their product. What was that other company's name...?
I agree with these customers. I live in Boston, MA. Purchased an Acorn lift 3 months ago and today they are calling from Florida asking me to purchase an extended warranty. 1395.00 for 4 years. I had to laugh at the girl. We are on soc security and cannot afford something like that. I asked her if they had no faith in these units to last more than one year. Then she said maybe they have a better deal for people on soc security, like 800.00 or so. I got rid of her real fast. Told her a warranty for this unit was not worth more than 79.00 for three years. Needless to say that ended the conversation. What a RIPOFF! I can buy a 10 year warranty for a car for under 500.00.
V. Williams
Acorn are abissmisal even in the UK too!
I wrote about Acorn some 439 days ago. Since that time, the new Representative based in Auckland, has been here and fixed the wretched thing!
I also had a call from him at 7:55 am today, demanding that I remove my post on this website; which is extraordinary, because it took more than two years for Acorn to get around to making this thing work. I don't appreciate hysteria at that hour, nor do I like their attitude (at any hour).
So, for the record... I E-mailed my initial enquiry to Acorn Australia and that was responded to by Mr Jack, from Acorn's Sydney office. He put me in touch with their New Zealand agent, Pandect Electric Solutions, who came and measured up the track length and quoted for two stair-lifts. I accepted the quotation of nearly US$10, 000 and the equipment was subsequently installed. Pandect, the Acorn sales agent for New Zealand, was then sold to a new owner.
The outside stair-lift began leaking gear oil from the gear casing nearly 12 months after purchase, so I complained and requested service under warranty. A couple of local contractors turned up, who said we have never seen anything like that and promptly left. Sometime later, they returned and replaced a socket on the indoor unit and removed the outdoor unit off it's rail and returned it Christchurch. Subsequently, a service unit was sent, which was refitted to the rail, but it was faulty in so much as it would go down, but not up. Pandect sent me a bill for about US$350, which I refused to pay.
After negotation, the original owner of pandect agreed to sort the matter out and the bill was quietly dropped, but I was left with a stair-lift that was useless... in so much as it would go down, but not up. I went to every Government agency that I thought might be able to help me, I called Mr Jack in Sydney, but he refused to take my call. So I posted my concerns on this web-site.
Subsequently, Acorn set up an office in Auckland and out of the blue, I had a phone call from this new Representative. So... he went off with an ear-full and said he would try and sort it out. Months later he came and actually fixed it, two and a half years after the stair-lift had died on it's rail.
The initial gearbox fault was well known to their service department... it was caused by the factory incorrectly torquing the casing bolts on the gearbox in initial assembly. Which left Acorn in breech of New Zealands Consumer Guarantees Act (1994) in so much as; the goods were not fit for the purpose for which intended, were not of merchantable quality, did not do what they were intended to do, did not last for a reasonable time, did not match a trade sample (good grief!). They also breech the Act, by their inability to supply parts (yep, Superglide 120 is superceded and there are no parts: apparently), which The Consumer Guarantees Act says they must do for a period of at least 5 years after purchase.
Which brings me their warranty. Their warranty is in addition to that given by The Consumer Guarantees Act (1994) and because the goods are being used privately, they cannot contract out of it. But their lifetime warranty on the gearbox and motor brings little comfort, because travel and labour to actually fix it, are excluded. I feel for anyone living in a Country without strong consumer laws.
So todays phone call... I was shouted down and threatened by Acorns local agent and he demanded that I remove my post of nearly a year and a half ago. Not bloody likely sunshine. You can go forth and multiply (or words to that effect)... but of course, I have already told you that!
I stand by my original statement... if you are in the market for a stairlift, go and see Stannah FIRST! Each and every one of them come with a 10 year unconditional warranty; which is absolutely priceless!
Michael Glover,
R.D. 4
Thames 3574
Phone me +[protected] Mobile +[protected]
E-mail michael.glover@clear.net.nz
As far as I know the only thing that is under the lifetime warranty on Acorn is the gear box and motor. Everything else - circuit board, switchs, wiring, etc only has a one year warranty. But, Acorn advertises all the time that their Stair lifts comes with a life time warranty. It does, but only for the gearbox and motor - read the warranty! Or go online and read it.
Most of the authorized technicians are independant contractors and do not work for Acorn, so they do usually charge a fee for repairs.
I believe if you look at the warranty on Acorns it will say in writing that labor is not included in the warranty. Actually I think it says if any component should fail, due to faulty manufacture, during the first year of ownership, Acorn will replace it free of charge. After that first year is up, you have to pay for whatever is not working.
I don't work for Acorn, but I do repair a lot of different stair lifts, including Acorn and I always charge for my services. I try my best to repair it without having to replace parts, but sometimes the circuit boards, as well as other items do go out and you have to replace them. In the last 3 years I have replaced 5 circuit boards in Acorn. My customer pays whatever the parts cost from the factory, I don't charge extra for it like some repair people do.
I am a repair person, but I don't charge a cent if I can't repair it. I have been known to replace the whole unit when it something I can't figure out.
Don't ever take a extended warranty on any product, no matter what it is. Just tell them no.
we live in scotland, and just before christmas 2009 purchased an acorn stairlift. it was installed and is working fine so fa.r. what is annoying me is the fact that i was infact asked to recommend the stair lift to friends etc even before the thing was installed. now, we are being telephoned frequently and being asked if we wish to take out an extended warranty for a very hefty sum of money. we paid quite a lot of money for this stair lift. at no time were we advised of any extended warranties or how much it would cost. another very annoying fact was that the caller ( who never supplied either his name or the company he worked for), refused to listen to anything i had to say. i told him i didnt want his 4year warranty because it was too expensive. his comeback was to say that i should take out a 10year warranty as it would work out cheaper over the years! he also asked for bank account details. very private info that is none of his bloody business. i feel this is borderline harassment. the man refuses to be told. in future if he phones me i will be giveing him short shrift. if i had been informed of warranties and their cost before i even thought of purchasing the stair lift, then i'm very sure i would have declined and looked else where. at the moment the stairlift is working fine, but i do feel the company should be upfront about ALL costs before anyone signs on the dotted line. there should be no hidden costs. this has all left a nasty taste in my mouth. i was very impressed with acorn initially, but they have went way down in my estimations.
If it's advertised on TV, it's either a scam, a ripoff or very poor quality. ALWAYS, ALWAYS Google it for complaints, before loosing your money.
customer service
I purchased a stair lift from Acorn Stair lifts. The chair lift required repair. I phoned Acorn to see who I should take the chair to. They sent me to their closest dealer to me which is in Indianapolis (60 miles away). The repair man made several trips, unable to fix the chair. Then he took my chair to his shop in Indianapolis. His phone number is now...
Read full review of Acorn Stairlifts and 17 commentspotential death trap
When I originally ordered the stair lift from Acorn to be installed in my father's house, I was told that it would take 4-6 weeks to be manufactured and installed. It took them 14 weeks to delivered and installed the unit. Meanwhile, they had required a 50% deposit of $6, 000 dollars upon ordering. During the time that we waited for the stairlift to be...
Read full review of Acorn Stairlifts and 15 commentspoor quality of materials and horrible installation of custom home stairs
I had called Acorn Stair of Chicago on 12/28/07, I spoke with Larry Pecor I, he stated to me that they were the best in the business, I would be completely satisfied with the work that they do, and their price would never be beat. He asked me to get him a copy of the stairs from our blueprint; I did so and mailed it to him. Over the phone I had explained the type of stairs I wanted as far as a craftsman style, with square balusters and square newel posts. He called me a few days later to set up an appointment to meet with him and stated I should bring a check for $2500 as that was ½ of the job based on the original estimate of $4546. Over the phone he stated to me that the price was for; the stairs 1st to 2nd floor in Oak and 3 box newels @ $300 each. When I met with him on 1/4/08 he showed me the estimate and we changed the type of wood from Oak to Poplar which he stated would be close to the same price, and I was told if we needed 2 more newel posts it would be $250 additional per newel. But he would not come to measure until a deposit was made to them. I signed the original estimate and gave him a check for $2500.000. He talked how it was a family business and all about his family, that they were good catholic people. A few weeks later his son Larry III came to our project location and took the measurements; I stated to him that I felt that the stairs would run into an existing column. He said to me that he was the best in the business and knew what he was doing, that we would be completely satisfied with the work. On 2/12/08 I received a much higher quote of $6188 on the stairs as well as a drawing showing how the stairs would lay out. As he drew it, the existing column, he showed being over further than it was and he stated we would need 2 additional newel posts at the start of the stairs, he also stated that I should remove a second non load bearing column as he felt it wouldn’t look right. Being that he is supposed to be the professional and knew how to measure for stairs (the best in the business) and that I had already expressed my concern at the column being in the way I trusted in his accuracy. When asked why the price was so much more I was told that, I was not quoted on what I wanted but on standard parts and that because he told me to remove the second column I would need even more materials. I was upset by this and requested to discontinue work with them as I felt that I had been misled not to mention the job was now coming very close to another estimate I had gotten for pre finished stairs (these were not prefinished and I was not told this until he was their measuring). He began to get very abrupt with me, telling me that “they already had a lot of money into the job and that now I was just wasting his time. That if I wanted to go elsewhere he would now have to deduct and unspecified amount of money for all the work they had done.” (Which I didn’t understand as I have received many free estimates in the course of building this house). I was really beginning to feel strong-armed and uncomfortable with the whole deal. He spoke to me in a manner that was neither professional nor fair. My husband and I decided that we would let them finish the job so as not to loose money for them just giving us a quote, since we were not told upfront what the cost of a quote would be, they could feasibly keep as much of our money as they wanted. I sent him the additional money to make up the ½ down based off of the new estimate. It was at this time that he stated I was verbally abusing him and no longer wanted to deal with me but would deal only with my husband and assured my husband that he would be completely satisfied with the completed work. When the installer came to put in the stairs we received a phone call that “the stairs ran into the column and how would we like them to handle this.” Being that they were supposed to be the best in the business we were not sure why it was our problem now that they measured wrong and why we were supposed to figure out how to remedy the problem. My husband had to leave work early in order to meet with the installer. I was very frustrated as I had specifically told him at the time of measuring that this would happen. We were told to move the column, and that the column was not in this spot when he measured and so forth. My husband spoke with Larry III and explained to him how to handle the issue with the stairs and the column, and stated that the newel posts were not needed as the column serves this purpose and that there is no room for them due to the column. Since I had explained this in the beginning we didn’t feel we should have to pay for the newel posts. He gave my husband the run around, and as my husband was to busy at work to play phone tag, I called to explain how unfair I felt he was being to charge us for his mistake. He gave me a hard time over the phone raising his voice and finally said “Why does everything have to be such an issue with you Kim, huh, why does everything have to be such an issue with you; ok Kim, you win, I’ll credit you the $500 ok, you win is that what you want” and then hung up on me. He told the installer that he must receive the remaining payment in full that same day, which made no sense, because the installer had not even started, It took the installer 4 days to complete the install, he left after the first full day and went back to Missouri and returned with his son who was their during the entire time. We had been back thruought the weekend and the stairs were not nearly complete by the end of the day on Sunday. Because we live 45 minutes away from the project we were unable to get there, upon his completion. We paid as requested even prior to us seeing the work completed. After completion we saw the stairs and to our disappointment, we found some of the materials that were brought out for the install were substandard. Some of the balusters were gouged; others had stains on them as if discolored from being tied and stored for a long period of time. The installer even stated that the materials had been sitting around for a few years. He said that a few years back the owner, Larry III was going through a divorce and was trying to hide money and so he purchased a bunch of material and it has been sitting in storage. This information was never shared with Larry Pecor III at the request of the installer. The balusters were not lined up evenly, which the installer blamed on poor materials. The third stair was not level and a return piece was cut and installed incorrectly. My husband went through marked and counted the affected balusters and called Larry III with a count so that when the installer came back he would have what he needed. My husband told him we would need 3 dozen balusters. During the installation, the installer stated it would have been easier to install if a wall had been built and the column wrapped prior to install. We had specifically asked Larry III if we should go ahead and do this ahead of time and he told us not to. The installer came out the second time with only 13 balusters. The installer also said per Larry; that he would be back on 4/7/2008 with more balusters and to complete the return piece. My husband spoke with Larry III a day or so later and asked him to come and look at the issues that were left with the stairs, and expressed his concern with how the whole job was starting to look reworked and damaged. Larry said he was planning to be in the area about the same time as the installer and would call my husband. My husband called Larry on Friday 4/4/2008 and left 2 messages. When we had not heard back my husband called again on Monday 4/7/2008 and Larry proceeded to tell him they were not going to complete the job since he had deducted the $500.00 for the newel posts and “Your wife is a ###” so basically we were out of luck. As it stands now the stairs are incomplete and we still have stained, warped and gouged balusters, and an incomplete return at the bottom of the stairs and just a nightmare of a mess. We do not want them back in our home as I will not be called a ### and then let them into my home to do who knows what. As far as him not wanting to finish the job because he gave me a credit for the 2 newel posts, he took those with him. I do not have them so; I do not understand that statement. I will be contacting another stair company for an estimate to complete the job; I would like to be reimbursed by Chicago Stair also doing business as Acorn Stair for the work. I will now have to pay someone else to finish and repair the work I have already paid Chicago Stair to do. I have a Final Waiver if Lien signed by them stating that they completed the work. The last we heard from them is that they were going to put a lien against us, and I’m not really sure why. I paid $6100.00 for these stairs and just paid another $900.00 to have them reworked. The new company stated they would have done the job for $4500.00
We have two chairs, both installed by Acorn. Both are broken now, service is almost non-existent. Service tech did show up and fix one, left the other broken. Never returned, The one he fixed broke again, and they continue to sit in our house un-useable.
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